Equal pilots: one in c202, one in P-51D. Which is more likely to get away?
My whole discussion was on planes of near similar ability, for instance the Dora and the P-51. The point was that even if its slightly faster (say the MW50 Dora), the Pony could still outrun it given a smart skilled pilot. Your changing the whole debate, when you go to severly disimilar aircraft.
I've had *many* encounters with P-51's where I've gained on a P51, seen the distance go down to 800 before growing again.
Thats because the P-51 pilot correctly read the relative E states, the situation, and knew when it was time to get away. Whats wrong with that?
Its the same for everyone. You pick an aircraft that you want to fly and you live with its characteristics. If you don't like it, pick another.
To me, the Dora is no big deal and I'm all for its inclusion in the planeset. I would fly against it, just like I fly against P51's. And yes I would fly the Dora itself, just like I currently fly the P-51, F4U, Yak-9U, and the 109G10.
Also, when several enemies are near, it is easy to lose just a little bit of SA and thusly enable one bandit to come in with an e advantage. Of course, if it is A8's vs 51's, no problem for the pony.
Losing SA in the arena is a problem for everyone, if you lose it, its your own fault. Period.
And the part of a Pony being able to easily outrun a A8 that has a significant alt advantage? Bull crap. Pure Luftbabble propaganda.
Yeah, the LW has a fast plane, the G10. Unfortunately, with the new patch, I find it reduced in effectiveness in terms of killing with more than 50%.
So? Every BnZ type aircraft has had an across the board cut in effectiveness. It effected them all, no just the G10's. It made hitting enemy aircraft much more difficult for all aircraft, because they are now pulling much harder into defensive manuevers.
So now, your prefer the 190 because it has more guns (meaning any hit is more effective), and a MUCH larger ammo load, and you can afford to put more ammo downrange hoping for a hit. Thats totally understandably and there's nothing wrong with that. But don't complain because you gave up the speed for the firepower, its your choice.
Give JG54 the Dora, and I can assure you that our deaths will go down (since we can run more effectively) and our kills up (since we can catch runners more effectively).
You may catch other aircraft much more easily, but I dont think you will catch too many more P-51's. Fight them to a draw easier maybe, but kill them outright, not necessarily. Mainly because the P51 pilots will fly differently against a Dora, than a A8. The P-51's will go to more Pony vs Pony tactics (which they already know well) which will negate that increase in speed.
Pilot skill is a non issue once you are on the deck roughly same e state and the target you're chasing has a higher top speed, if the distance is say 2.5k or more.
No, but by that time the fight is already decided. Pilot skill however
is an issue, in the fight up until this point. Which is what is important.
Overall, I must admit that I find the pony to be a better plane than both the A5 and A8, even if we don't count top speed.
I agree. These characteristics are what made the Mustang famous or infamous depending on your point of view. Thats historical. Wishful thinking or a preference of our favorite airforce, will not and should not change that.
My point is that you guys (the so called "Luftwaffe" contingent) are constantly and continually complaining about the P-51 and the F4U-1C, to the point that it irritates the rest of the community so much it makes them sick to their stomachs.
I fly the Yak-9U and the 109G10 alot, and I have no problem dealing with either of these aircraft. You dont' see me complaining in every thread that pops up.
What about the British aircraft pilots? the Japanese aircraft pilots? the Russian pilots, the dedicated Italian pilots? Or even the whole rest of the community that flys a little bit of everything? None of other groups, continuously moan and complain to this magnitude.
Why is this? We all face the same situations in the arena, day in and day out. We all face lose of SA or disimilar aircraft characteristics. If you don't like the plane you fly, pick another, its real simple.
Each and Every one of the members of the community face the same challenges each time we leave the runway.
If you think an aircraft is modeled wrong, present data and prove your point. But don't continuous squeak about a plane because its characteristics outfight the aircraft you have chosen.
And Santa, this is not all directly aimed at you. For one of the "Luftwaffe" contingent, your easily the best about listening to factual data and reasonable debate. But jeez talk to your boys will yah?
Its to the point that many members of the community (unfortunately including myself), have heard so many continuous moans and whines, that when a real issue is brought up, they simply disregard it and assume its another baseless complaint.
*rant mode off*
That all said, I am all for having a Fw190D in AcesHigh. I always have been.
But its not going to all of a sudden show the superiority of all the Luftwaffe pilots in the game, and even the playing field.
Its just another plane.
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