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Offline Dinger

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« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2003, 11:52:05 AM »
When did they make English the official language of the US?

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« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2003, 12:34:40 PM »
What language would be the official language? Perhaps I mispoke. If you are suggesting it is not necessary to learn english to live in the US, I'd disagree.

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« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2003, 12:35:38 PM »
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Its a crappy study with questionable standards. Typical ripsnort post material.


hey, straight from the left wing news media! (KOMO News 4, Seattle)  Don't ya hate it when your own does it to ya? :p  Maybe if you focused more on the subject and not the person, the jerk-off in you wouldn't show thru as the real "you"?

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« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2003, 02:05:16 PM »
I wonder if theres enough alphabetics to describe the level of non-US history teaching...

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« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2003, 02:20:28 PM »
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I asked for examples of posters being to PC when it comes to history ripsnort. Or are you just going to continue to make ignorant statements without backing them up.

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« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2003, 03:21:41 PM »
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I wonder if theres enough alphabetics to describe the level of non-US history teaching...


I'm pretty sure it is the inverse of the Finnish grade for arrogance. ;)

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« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2003, 03:53:29 PM »
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I'm pretty sure it is the inverse of the Finnish grade for arrogance. ;)


Actually, I was referring to americans arrogance towards other nationalities with it, in a way of saying they don't know enough of the history outside US and therefore acts like they do.

For example, the French bashing and calling out europeans as anti-americans has been quite hilarious, considering the fact how much worse americans have put down the french compared to these european "anti-americans".

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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2003, 04:09:06 PM »
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Actually, I was referring to americans arrogance towards other nationalities with it, in a way of saying they don't know enough of the history outside US and therefore acts like they do.

For example, the French bashing and calling out europeans as anti-americans has been quite hilarious, considering the fact how much worse americans have put down the french compared to these european "anti-americans".


I think this deserves a quote (Yes, Dowding, Cntl-V Cntl-C) from DejaVu:

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"Its the wonderfull thing about America...There's enough people from every part of the world so that no one particular nation feels the need to accept responsibility for our behavior..though virtually every nation has contributed to our culture in some way." AKDejaVu


In simple terms, when you speak harshly of us, you're speaking harshly of YOUR ancestors.

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« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2003, 04:16:05 PM »
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in other words, too much political correctness.


Did anyone notice that 2 of the "A" States are California and New York? That these are bastions of liberal ideology and .... god forbid... political correctness? Anyone have salt for Rippies crow?

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« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2003, 04:32:10 PM »
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Did anyone notice that 2 of the "A" States are California and New York? That these are bastions of liberal ideology and .... god forbid... political correctness? Anyone have salt for Rippies crow?


We covered this earlier in the thread.  Once you get outside the big city's, you're in Republicountry.

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« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2003, 04:43:57 PM »
Won't wash, Rip.

If you operate under the assumption their respective governments vote liberal, it can be assumed their voting is representative of the bulk of the population. It may be true California and New York have urban areas that are conservative, but it is also true their populations tend to be centralized in their larger cities.

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« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2003, 05:08:58 PM »
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Won't wash, Rip.

If you operate under the assumption their respective governments vote liberal, it can be assumed their voting is representative of the bulk of the population. It may be true California and New York have urban areas that are conservative, but it is also true their populations tend to be centralized in their larger cities.


Ah come on! nothing worse than a fellow fisherman coming by and cutting your line!

Well, are not the classroom sizes larger in the inner city?  One liberal teacher per 30 students, vs 20 students in rural area? (Meaning, more teachers outside the city?)Theres gotta be a reason...maybe teachers are coming around in the big cities?  (Shrugs)
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« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2003, 05:29:31 PM »
Ripsnort,

Not sure what you're trying to say... but...

How exactly does the ancestors increase anyones knowledge of the world history or anything else for that matter?

I don't either buy the ancestor argument, since they're long gone and have no word in the directions of todays world.
It's the current, living generations, which makes things happen in the world.

It's the currently living people whos taken it as their objective to bash the french and rename the french fries to freedom fries, not the ancestors.
So if I fault these "anti-french" people arrogant, how could I possibly fault the ancestors, when they had nothing to do with it?
It's not like they decided to approve or disapprove the Iraq war or tell people to bash the french.

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« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2003, 05:57:02 PM »
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Ah come on! nothing worse than a fellow fisherman coming by and cutting your line!

Well, are not the classroom sizes larger in the inner city?  One liberal teacher per 30 students, vs 20 students in rural area? (Meaning, more teachers outside the city?)Theres gotta be a reason...maybe teachers are coming around in the big cities?  (Shrugs)


Or maybe you just type stuff till it forms sentences and have no clue when there is a cause and effect between your premises and your conclusions...

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« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2003, 09:12:05 PM »
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the TAAS is horrible, if that's what your refering too


I wasn't. Among other efforts there is a new test, don't recall the name, that is required for High School graduation. It's meeting much opposition.
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