Free Health Care for All Americans?

[trolla]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
You'd be typing that in Russian if not for the USA.  

Hehe the americans used to love us when they needed our coastline  (read cold war)
dont happen anymore when we say our meaning rofl

This is weird  I have always been pro US but after a few months now Im getting confuesed.

I remember well when in the 80`s when i was drafted and working hard for my 15 months in duty, I was always pround of my English and Us friends. I hope thats gonna continue but as i said now im confuesed.

[Wanker]

I see that I made a mistake in the title of this thread by using the word "free". Those of you who actually read my original post saw that I was advocating an 80/20 plan, where you would pay a deductible, and then 20% after that. The government would then pickup the rest(80%).

I am not advocating this system for illegal aliens or citizens of foreign countries, only US citizens.

Nobody has argued yet against or for this from a business perspective. My employer has roughly 350,000 employees worldwide, I'm sure they might be happy to let the government cover their medical insurnace costs!

Funked, how about some more numbers. I don't know the numbers at all. If we did an 80/20 split with the government, what would that bring us up to on your socialism scale?

[FUNKED1]

I still love Norway, well at least Petter Solberg.  

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by banana
I see that I made a mistake in the title of this thread by using the word "free". Those of you who actually read my original post saw that I was advocating an 80/20 plan, where you would pay a deductible, and then 20% after that. The government would then pickup the rest(80%).

I am not advocating this system for illegal aliens or citizens of foreign countries, only US citizens.

 

Why not cover illegals? Are they less human than a naturalized citizen? Or do they not deserve coverage because they do not contribute to the system?

You'd let a person die on Main St. USA because they don't have a green card?

[trolla]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
I still love Norway, well at least Petter Solberg.  

HEHE well atleast one that does things right

[capt. apathy]

Don't we have free clinics for non-emergency treatment?

no, people who have no health insurance go to the emergancy room (the only place they can't be turned away),  thats a major reason why you have 3 hour waits in the emergancey room, and it greatly increases our healthcare costs.  by refusing to provide a $50 office visit we instead get to pick up the tab (not through taxes but increased healthcare costs) for a $400 ER visit, plus your friends and family who have insurance end up suffering needles hours while waiting in line behind some woman who took her kid to the ER for chicken pox.

a gov't health plan would be very expensive, but I think I know where we could get $87 billion to get the ball rolling.

[Wanker]

Well, as you are so fond of saying, muck, one has to draw the line somewhere, and that's where I'd draw it. Call me a heartless Liberal, but there you have it. I only want to help out 99.5% of the US population.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by banana
Well, as you are so fond of saying, muck, one has to draw the line somewhere, and that's where I'd draw it. Call me a heartless Liberal, but there you have it. I only want to help out 99.5% of the US population.

So then it's not a matter of drawing lines, but a matter of where.

Where as you neglect a person based on their country of origin, I neglect them based on thier involvement in the system they intend to use.

I don't think abyone should be denied medical aid, and I don't believe they are.  But once again, where do you draw the line on this aid. Do we treat only life threatening situations on people who cannot pay, or do we treat everything down to athletes foot?

The process certainly is daunting.

[miko2d]

Udie: The war on terror so far has cost roughly $640 per American tax payer.  Well worth liberating the Iraqi people, something I've wanted done since '91.  I spend more on cigarettes.....  

 Yeh, right.... I bet you did not donate a dime to help the struggle of Iraqis for freedom, let alone volunteer to join the Kurdish militia and had no intention of doing so all those years.


trolla: I remember well when in the 80`s when i was drafted and working hard for my 15 months in duty...

 What, you do not have enough single mothers to staff a mercenary army?

 miko

[trolla]

Originally posted by miko2d
Udie:
 

trolla: I remember well when in the 80`s when i was drafted and working hard for my 15 months in duty...

 What, you do not have enough single mothers to staff a mercenary army?

 miko

Well now we might have that,   but not in the 80`s you stupid fuk, what`s wrong with you ?

youre not following the hard times

[miko2d]

trolla,

 What I actually ment was :

 What, you do not have enough single mothers to staff a mercenary army, like we, americans, do?

 miko

[trolla]

Dont think so miko, since all in all we are about 4.5 mill. people living in this country.
Doing our best to survive and have a good life, and we have that.
But as the stupid socialist( kommis) we are we against all odds do very well.

your way of telling people they are socialists etc.... and so on dont work on us we are very able to do our jobs and stuff very well. (beside what is a socialist ? and how does it work you guys still stuck in the 50 `s i think)
Hell,   Blair is a socialist in that matter at last his labour ?
And you guys got your support from him rofl



but fair enogh we might got more single mothers pr. inhabitant than you.

come get some

[Udie]

Originally posted by miko2d
Udie: The war on terror so far has cost roughly $640 per American tax payer.  Well worth liberating the Iraqi people, something I've wanted done since '91.  I spend more on cigarettes.....  

 Yeh, right.... I bet you did not donate a dime to help the struggle of Iraqis for freedom, let alone volunteer to join the Kurdish militia and had no intention of doing so all those years.

 

 STFU dumbarse you know not of what you speak.

[Rude]

I stand by my original premise....some of you seem to have brought about all that we are as a nation all by your little selves, especially Miko the Hard Hearted.

The level of disrespect for our elderly in this country is shameful....the level of ignorance by some on this board is equally as sad.

[Wanker]

The level of disrespect for our elderly in this country is shameful....the level of ignorance by some on this board is equally as sad.

I'll agree with you on that. Especially if you consider that we'll all be elderly some day, if we live long enough.