Author Topic: Poll: Which put you off WW2OL more - launch or fanboy posts? (Read 4941 times)

Westy · « **Reply #90 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:51:57 PM »

"on't bash the game for what it was 2 years ago."

Dusty. Do you or any of the others who run over here to pipe in bother to read posts by people such as I who have stated many, many times it's NOT all about the initial release? That quite a few of the people who have differing opinions than yours, Hardcases or Zeroaces on how great a game or sim WWIIO is have tried it repetatively for the past couple of years. That we see the same bugs and issues even if the gameplay has changed. And not all of the gameplay changes have been IMO. That even last night the game breaker issue (for me) where icons wink in and out, still exists. LONG after Killer said it would be fixed? (IMO that problem is ... (huh! I can say it here. Can't there as the topic get locked faster than an intern goes down)... mostly the server is incaopable of being able to update clients quick enough and/or there's some major problems with the netcode) Or do you just gloss over these parts because it's easier and quicker to try negate a differing opinion with an irrelevant "that was two years ago!" For some people they felt robbed. I feel they have that right too. Yet for even more people it's the long term unfixed bugs, gameplay issues, missing features and more.

"..ya don't see me there trumping up the propoganda machine about how great Aces High is"

That's because you can't. Not unless you pay for the pain of dong so.

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #91 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:53:46 PM »

I'm out of here, I would like to discuss this with you guys, but you obviously have no intentions to settle this whole deal. I'll just let it be, but I do hope some of you get out of your flaming attitudes and realise that CRS is a great community, and the WW2OL Community (For the most part, there is some A-Holes there, just like ALL MMOGs or Online Communities) is a great community. I personally don't know what this thread is about or how it got started, but what caught my eye is how everybody was flaming the community and CRS. Personally, I'm going to go try the AH Beta now, goodbye

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #92 on:** October 16, 2003, 04:57:33 PM »

One last post- Hardcase and Zeroaces opinions or posts do NOT reflect the majority of the WW2OL playerbase, It may be YOUR opinion the game sucks, and I'm ok with that, I don't like the 64limit either but it will change. I've been with the game since launch, and it DID have a sucky launch, but if you have been with it for as long as I have, you would be amazed (As am I) how much it has changed. If not, oh well, you have your own opinion. But please do not flame CRS or the community, or openly bash the game like you are. Because when that happens, of course there is going to be people to come over here and defend it. I would to but I learned a long time ago you can not change somebodies opinion if they feel strongly for it. Later

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #93 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:01:23 PM »

Dsty2001 would you buy the screwdriver that the salesman just pulled off your bellybutton if he apologised and kissed you afterwards?

CRS lost their credibility, reliability and face with the launch. Enough false advertising to make up a court case combined with promises that were not fulfilled.

I personally waited WW2OL open beta eagerly. I was extremely disappointed when it was cancelled at the last meters.

Later, after reading WW2OL boards and seeing the total mess it was, I was happy not to waste time with the product let alone pay a dime doing so. I was tempted to buy the box, but reading the ubb convinced me to save my money. Later I joined the free trial. It felt like playing a beta version of an Amiga500 game.

As it is now, WW2OL could be the next best thing and sugar on top, I will never surrender my C/C info to untrustworthy people (CRS.)

Pesticide · « **Reply #94 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:03:42 PM »

The way I see it, every game has it's own problems.

WWIIOL's are the 64 limit, stuka bug, possibly slightly overmodeled rudder (which honestly doesn't bother me much) just to name a few. I'm sure AH has it's own.

Was it wrong for Zero and hardcase to come here and do nothing but harp on the problems of AH, if it was done in a derogitory or infamitory way, absolutely. (assuming that's what they did from what I heard, I haven't seen it). By the same right, I think it's wrong for people using "free trials" of WWIIOL to do nothing but harp about the bugs in the forums over there.

the point is, everyone is entitled to their own oppinions, and don't judge the views of an entire community on the actions of a few dinks.

People like diferent games for diferent reasons. I know many people who play WWIIOL for the 24/7 action and the "big picture" aspect. I know people who play IL-2 for the quick dogfight aspect. I'm sure there are many reasons people like AH or WB better than both of these games. I got no problem with it, and I got no problem with someone comming into the WWIIOL forums and saying "hey, there's a new version of AH out, yall should try it", or "check out this WB3 video" or " there's a new patch for IL-2 out".

Udie · « **Reply #95 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:14:55 PM »

I leached this quote from Killer over at the WW2OL boards.

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What I find funny is that me and HT get along just fine, much better than our players do. We would both get a good laugh out of the taliban fundamentalists in both camps.

I've often wondered this and thought the whole "issue" was funny.

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:16:04 PM »

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CRS lost their credibility, reliability and face with the launch. Enough false advertising to make up a court case combined with promises that were not fulfilled.

Most of there promises are fullfilled, and once more, your judging the game and you've probably not played it in a long time? And how have they "False Advertised"? Sure they did it on the original release, but Strategy First should be blamed for that, not CRS. Besides, I can't name a single MMOG that has been launched with everything that has been promised. Just because you hate CRS, doesn't mean you should single them out. Cause they are DEFINATELY not the only company that has done this. And most of them companies had no other choice

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #97 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:18:22 PM »

Of course, you've probably not played many MMOGs. MMOG's are hard to do for MANY reasons, and the day a Company releases a MMOG with "ALL" the features, "ALL" the promises with very little bugs, is the day the gaming community will cry out in happiness. Cause it has NOT been done yet, and if you think otherwise, your thinking WRONG.

Batz · « **Reply #98 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:20:16 PM »

See here we go. We get a good flow of want to be "wwiiol martyrs" coming here talking crap. Then they run home when they get called on it and claim how intolerant we are. They then hide been the fact that only subscribers can post on their forums.

Pesticide - He run here insults every one runs home tells everyone how bad we are then comes back "well I didn't mean to be mean I just want to know why you don’t like us.

See your first post on the forum

Durin - Amen brotha' Pesticide everyone who has a problem with wwiiol'rs coming here insultin' folk are jerk offs. They should justa kept dey mouf shut and thanked ya'. Why I's bet ya'lls hates me too...

Dsty2001 - Folks aren’t saying they hate wwiiol because of the players. 1st the game sucks. The folks who catch hell over here were folks that come over here with their insults. Like hardcase, zeroace, Pesticide and yourself.

We don’t need you to tell us about wwiiol. Being an ex player I get emails from them when something new comes up and there are plenty of ah'rs who play wwiiol that give their feedback to us in numerous ways.

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One last post- Hardcase and Zeroaces opinions or posts do NOT reflect the majority of the WW2OL playerbase, It may be YOUR opinion the game sucks, and I'm ok with that, I don't like the 64limit either but it will change. I've been with the game since launch, and it DID have a sucky launch, but if you have been with it for as long as I have, you would be amazed (As am I) how much it has changed. If not, oh well, you have your own opinion. But please do not flame CRS or the community, or openly bash the game like you are. Because when that happens, of course there is going to be people to come over here and defend it. I would to but I learned a long time ago you can not change somebodies opinion if they feel strongly for it. Later

You are doing the same as hardcase and zeroace, wearing out your welcome. If you love wwiiol so much why are wasting your time here go play it. Take your name-calling and fanbio'ism back to wwiiol and get your "medal" for taking on the chin "defending your game.

Remember you all came here.

Pesticide · « **Reply #99 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:23:50 PM »

Dsty,
personally, I think everything before like 1.2 should have been beta. Ive said that before on the wwiiol boards and if I ever run into any of the rats at Benniganns I'd make no bones about saying it to them. I think they know as well as anyone that for about the first year, there were some serious "issues".

IF people want to still hold that against them, then that's their right. I'm not saying it's right, but I have a former roomate that still holds it against a friend that he pulled out of moving into the house the day after my fmr. roomate closed on the loan. That was about 3 years ago.

Personally, I'm pretty good about letting things go and giving people a second, or sometimes even a third chance. I actually unsubscribed twice from the game because I wasn't happy with it.

If they don't like the game because of the game itself or because they feel that CRS has wronged them in some way, that's fine. I just don't think they should base that dislike on the oppinions of a couple of jerk-off's.

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #100 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:27:37 PM »

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Dsty2001 - Folks aren’t saying they hate wwiiol because of the players. 1st the game sucks. The folks who catch hell over here were folks that come over here with their insults. Like hardcase, zeroace, Pesticide and yourself.

Exactly where did I throw an insult that wasn't in defence? I didn't say anything bad about this community until people started flaming me, as are you.

Besides, I have seen very few bad posts about any of you. NOTHING compared to what I have read in this thread, in fact, somebody posted a link the AH2 Open Beta to show it off to us. I play multiple games, and have opinions on all of them.

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You are doing the same as hardcase and zeroace, wearing out your welcome. If you love wwiiol so much why are wasting your time here go play it. Take your name-calling and fanbio'ism back to wwiiol and get your "medal" for taking on the chin "defending your game.

How am I wearing out my welcome? Just because I say good things about WW2OL does not mean I'm evil. Why am I not playing Ww2OL right now? Hmm, thats a toughy, oh wait, I DONT HAVE TO PLAY IT ALL THE TIME, in fact, I'm going to play it after I make this post. Get what medal? I don't brag about what I say over here, heck, I've only made one or two posts about this entire ordeal. I'm not defending WW2OL, I'm defending CRS and the Community. Nuff said, lata

Dsty2001 · « **Reply #101 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:29:55 PM »

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If they don't like the game because of the game itself or because they feel that CRS has wronged them in some way, that's fine. I just don't think they should base that dislike on the oppinions of a couple of jerk-off's.

Heh, I could care less what they think of the game, but basing the community and CRS off of a few people, and the release ticks me off. No MMOG has been released perfectly, and to single out CRS ticks me off also

It's just a shame IMO 2 good communitys have to bash each other like this. I'm gone for good this time, later

Pesticide · « **Reply #102 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:43:57 PM »

re-read my anicdote(sp?) about the friend and the roomate.

Some people don't understand the concept of forgive and forget, or second chances. And that's their right, we don't have to agree with it, but we do have to accept it. There is no getting through to some people, and while that doesn't mean give up trying on everyone, there are some who you shouldn't waste your time on.

Staga · « **Reply #103 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:44:41 PM »

Wise decision. <- For Dsty.

Anyway you're doing more bad than good for wwiiol when posting in here; just like some others did before you.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #104 on:** October 16, 2003, 05:50:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Dsty2001
How do you know the game has not changed much since you have not played it? You sir, are an *******

Jeez...people don't reada **** nowadays. I said I played it 3 months ago. It sucked then, it sucks now. You sir are a tardlet like your little fanboi Pesticide.

Congrats Pest, you complimented 2 AH players. We get jumped on regularly here in the O'Club, its a part of posting here. Just because you think you get jumped on you assume we all want to dismiss you. What we dismiss are the way you guys are presenting WW2OL in this forum. Realise that a mojority of AH players play other online sims as well, IL2 WB3 etc...but in no way do we all like AH only. Plenty of us, of not most, play other online games that aren't flightsims. This discussion was played out 3 months ago by Zeroace, and now with Dsty and Pest (even better name BTW). Do us a favor, just disappear...

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