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Offline Nash

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« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2004, 08:45:38 PM »
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Would this include domestic media that are "hurting the war effort"?


Not so much.
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« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2004, 08:47:52 PM »
Rip - Why did that Iraqi radio station get shut down?
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« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2004, 08:49:05 PM »
No GScholz...

So-called free press in our countries has nothing to do with free press in an occupied country.
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« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2004, 09:03:20 PM »
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There you go cutting yourself on the other edge of the sword again.


It's a bad habit of mine.

I think it doesn't actually matter if they disbelieve "our" side of the story, as long as they aren't getting bombarded with thier own particular side of the story.

In a different light...

Do people NOT buy Nike because they don't also see Puma ads on TV?

Word of mouth - yes, of course.

But much less effective, immediate, and less authoratative a means... no?
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« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2004, 09:25:10 PM »
lol... Nice. :)

So you made a point, for sure, that it'd be difficult to stop.

I may be mistaken easily, but I thought this was about the freedom of press in an occupied country. As in, whether it should or should not exist. NOT if it were merely possible.

Why did ya have me doing the freedom of the press vs anti-freedom of the press dance if all you were going to say at the end was "you cannot stop it anyway"?
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« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2004, 10:34:22 PM »
Al Jazeera is based out of one of the most western friendly countries in the middle east, Qatar.  Do you want to make enemies of them as well?
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« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2004, 10:37:14 PM »
After making enemies out of practically almost everyone else... why consider a place like Qatar all of a sudden?
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« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2004, 11:40:09 PM »
Why don't they just follow the Al Jizz news-crews around?
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« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2004, 11:44:56 PM »
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im fairly sure it has something to do with america not being in charge of other countries press...


people are probably working on that problem even as we type....
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« Reply #114 on: April 13, 2004, 02:17:01 AM »
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If it were my decision to make, I'd shut it down.

Free press in Iraq? It's not a free country.
The problem there is the Pentagon insisting calling the whole fiasco "Operation Iraqi Freedom" - you're going to be hoisted on the petard of your own advertising.
If it's not meant to be a free country perhaps your army should have called it "Operation Iraqi Occupation", or "Operation Keep Mohammed Down*".

*But only for a while until we install democracy, honest.
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« Reply #115 on: April 13, 2004, 03:38:26 AM »
As if it would make a different to shut down Al Jazeera. There are other channels for terrorists to get their needed information.
If the allies would take out Al Jazeera they only would raise another martyr.
Eagler ur initial statement is just wrong and (just for prophylaxis) mine doesnt makes me to a US hating terrorist supporter.
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« Reply #116 on: April 13, 2004, 04:15:33 AM »
For a moment you stopped my breath Duedel since I confused you (because of your new avatar) with Martlet - god I thought hell was freezing over...

Phew, I see - everything still in order... ;)
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« Reply #117 on: April 13, 2004, 05:20:02 AM »
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Education is an extremists worse nightmare. (Unless the content is the Koran, with alittle distortion thrown in for good effect)


Where do you tink you got those numbers (1,2,3...) you're using everyday?
Did you ever read the Koran? if yes, what dissociates it from religious education (such as the Christian Bible)? If not ... how would you know?
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« Reply #118 on: April 13, 2004, 07:37:33 AM »
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Rip - Why did that Iraqi radio station get shut down?


Sorry, misquoted, it was an Iraqi newspaper. Theres a history of it too, as seen in these links.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/special_reports/iraq/story/1243864p-8295362c.html
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/03/1675441.php
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0722-12.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/08/04/sprj.irq.media/
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« Reply #119 on: April 13, 2004, 07:52:31 AM »
Al Jazeera is intresting for me.

I love the fact that they are independant Arab news station and not a mouthpiece of any regional government.

However I am distrurbed by their extreme bias, not only because it's so anti-us, but because I fear it will set a poor example for the beggings of mid-eastern free press. But I suppose when and if the region liberalizes there will be creation of more balanced  alternatives.

So despite their dangerous bias I'm gonna say al Jazeeera is a generally positive development for the long term.
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