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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SkyRock on January 05, 2009, 02:07:18 PM
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:rofl :lol :rofl
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Hes kills are all in a P38J, probably bomber hunting looking at the hit percentage, maybe hes just lucky ;)
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Yeah and he brings it up every time you tell him he sucks.
Wish they would make it so you have to have 25+ sorties before you register a score for that mode. That'll put an end to most of those tards.
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Actually might be a good idea to fix the score system, I would like to see scores that actually reflect a pilots ability instead of their timidness or ability to bomb strats
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Thats stupid. Hes only got 20 Kills in fighter mode. Most people say stats are worthless and to some degree I agree. But in this case with such a small sample size its obvious that these numbers are meaningless.
Kostic
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Yeah and he brings it up every time you tell him he sucks.
Wish they would make it so you have to have 25+ sorties before you register a score for that mode. That'll put an end to most of those tards.
Thats a good idea having a minimuim sortie requirement to rank.
Kostic
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Thats a good idea having a minimuim sortie requirement to rank.
Kostic
I concur. On a side note, is there even 20 people to kill in the Mid War arena? :lol
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Thats a good idea having a minimuim sortie requirement to rank.
Kostic
See this idea I proposed a couple months ago, similar concept to minimum sortie rank but a little more forgiving. Most people would rather bash me for trying to come up with a good idea than actually get anything that is broken fixed. :rolleyes:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250509.0.html
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How bout we just remove the list of "top pilots" from the front page so that no one cares? :)
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How bout we just remove the list of "top pilots" from the front page so that no one cares? :)
Wheres the fun in that :D
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:rofl :lol :rofl
You guys talking about Biggamer's rank from Tour 106?
If you are, you have to realize what type of player you are talking about. He was caught a few months ago vulching shade accounts with Dextur and Axer to get top scores in the MW arena and he's just found another way to game the score/rank system. Though, he will deny it to high heaven that he doesn't play for score/rank, his actions speak the opposite. He craves the validation and *giggle* respect that comes with being a good stick, of which he'll never receive through normal game play because he lacks the skills to acheive no higher than being a mediocre player. He feels that if he can somehow show he's #1 in the MW, he'll get the accolades he so craves but doesn't realize that the route he takes to acheive that 'Experten' status will be forever tarnished because he had to game his way to the top.
So what does he do now to acheive the top spot? He'll only engage in fighter sorties where he has a high probability of a kill without any risks (i.e. vulching, shooting down bombers) and after a handful of sorties, he will then score all of his flights under 'Attack' to prevent his fighter score from taking a hit when he routinely gets his arse handed back to him by the most average player.
Basically, he's a kid looking for love in all the wrong places.
ack-ack
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SHADE VULCHERS :noid
That reminds me I got to end my other account :noid
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How bout we just remove the list of "top pilots" from the front page so that no one cares? :)
Do you remember top gun where Maverick meets Iceman at the bar and what was there first verbal exchange?
Iceman: "Have you figured it out yet?"
Maverick: "Figured out what?"
Iceman: "Whos the best pilot?"
Thats why the board will never go away..
EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW HOW THEY STACK UP AGAINST ANOTHER :aok
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I don't. I just want to make sure I'm in good enough to evade the gnomes.
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Do you remember top gun where Maverick meets Iceman at the bar and what was there first verbal exchange?
Iceman: "Have you figured it out yet?"
Maverick: "Figured out what?"
Iceman: "Whos the best pilot?"
Thats why the board will never go away..
EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW HOW THEY STACK UP AGAINST ANOTHER :aok
Have you figured it out yet? Its me :aok
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(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Films_et_TV/stargate-ouvre-porte-585.gif)
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See this idea I proposed a couple months ago, similar concept to minimum sortie rank but a little more forgiving. Most people would rather bash me for trying to come up with a good idea than actually get anything that is broken fixed. :rolleyes:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250509.0.html
I would like to see the other pilots rank taken into consideration for kill points. Killing a 2 week noob should not produce the same numbers as killing SkyRock, Lusche, Kazza or pick your favorite vet.
Kostic
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I would like to see the other pilots rank taken into consideration for kill points. Killing a 2 week noob should not produce the same numbers as killing SkyRock, Lusche, Kazza or pick your favorite vet.
Kostic
AW's system was like that. Even factored in vulches...the more you repeatedly killed a player, the less points he was worth. Funny thing is, only AW's score system was visible to players, the rank system was only visible with AWAR game master commands.
ack-ack
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EW is even more extreme in that matter. See #1 in EW tour 107. 2 sorties in fighter mode was all that was needed. That's a result of low player numbers in EW, the balancing effect of having too few kill points simply isn't there in such a small arena.
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EW is even more extreme in that matter. See #1 in EW tour 107. 2 sorties in fighter mode was all that was needed. That's a result of low player numbers in EW, the balancing effect of having too few kill points simply isn't there in such a small arena.
Yeah, so basically the guy puts in 2 sorties in fighter, does all his other flying in attack to preserve his fighter cause he is #1 position. The whole tour he is watching..making sure no one is sneaking up on his hard earned #1. Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.
Kositc
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This discussion (witch hunt) seems to pop up every month when the new standings are posted.
It seems likes its main participants are always the guys who say that score doesn't matter.
If it doesn't matter, then why bring it up?
If those guys wanna game the game to get low scores, who cares?
Some guys enjoy chasing a low score,and for the most part we all know who they are.
Let them enjoy the game the way they want and ignore the score page if it bothers you so much.
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Yeah, so basically the guy puts in 2 sorties in fighter, does all his other flying in attack to preserve his fighter cause he is #1 position. The whole tour he is watching..making sure no one is sneaking up on his hard earned #1. Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.
Kositc
21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...
And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone :noid watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour
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I would like to see the other pilots rank taken into consideration for kill points. Killing a 2 week noob should not produce the same numbers as killing SkyRock, Lusche, Kazza or pick your favorite vet.
Kostic
Yeah but that's impossible to take into effect since the most skilled pilots never have a good rank. In sports a win against the yankees is worth the same as a win against the devil rays. If I was an expert programmer and HTC gave me reigns of the scoring system, I'd have a better system in place that everyone would be pleased with, even Guppy! :aok
21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...
And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone :noid watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour
That's why you need a minimum missions formula such as this (excuse for another cheap pitch for my idea :rock)
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250509.0.html
They'd be forced to fly more missions and if they wanted to keep up their stupid ratios they'd have to shade vulch a lot more and then you'd be able to see it in the new player stats.
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If those guys wanna game the game to get low scores, who cares?
For example the guys that do play the scoring game in a honest way?
And even if you don't care for score yourself doesn't mean you don't care for someone setting bad examples.
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In sports a win against the yankees is worth the same as a win against the devil rays.
Except that last year saying you beat the Yankees didn't mean squat. :rofl
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This discussion (witch hunt) seems to pop up every month when the new standings are posted.
It seems likes its main participants are always the guys who say that score doesn't matter.
If it doesn't matter, then why bring it up?
If those guys wanna game the game to get low scores, who cares?
Some guys enjoy chasing a low score,and for the most part we all know who they are.
Let them enjoy the game the way they want and ignore the score page if it bothers you so much.
You obviously havent been paying attention or worse didn't give anyone enough respect to actually read thier posts. This isnt a witch hunt. Members are simply bring up issues they have with the score system, not individual players.
Kostic
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21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...
And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone :noid watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour
That might be true, but he only flew for 36 minutes. For 2.7 kills per minute a total of 13 kills . I'm saying you could put in full nights work and beat that through volume.
Kostic
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You guys talking about Biggamer's rank from Tour 106?
If you are, you have to realize what type of player you are talking about. He was caught a few months ago vulching shade accounts with Dextur and Axer to get top scores in the MW arena and he's just found another way to game the score/rank system. Though, he will deny it to high heaven that he doesn't play for score/rank, his actions speak the opposite. He craves the validation and *giggle* respect that comes with being a good stick, of which he'll never receive through normal game play because he lacks the skills to acheive no higher than being a mediocre player. He feels that if he can somehow show he's #1 in the MW, he'll get the accolades he so craves but doesn't realize that the route he takes to acheive that 'Experten' status will be forever tarnished because he had to game his way to the top.
So what does he do now to acheive the top spot? He'll only engage in fighter sorties where he has a high probability of a kill without any risks (i.e. vulching, shooting down bombers) and after a handful of sorties, he will then score all of his flights under 'Attack' to prevent his fighter score from taking a hit when he routinely gets his arse handed back to him by the most average player.
Basically, he's a kid looking for love in all the wrong places.
ack-ack
Always obvious when you see someone playing for score. 2 or 3 fighter sorties and 10-30 kills always show who "doesn't care" for score... :rolleyes:
Edit, just took a peak, biggamer kilt some fella named land2 10 times. Also kilt Seadog36 26 or 27 times in a Lanc.
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Why does anyone care if their gaming the game for score. The score thing is stupid anyway. People know who the good sticks are and score doesn't tell that. So I say let the building killers kill their buildings.
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Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.
Kositc
You'd have to resort to the same tactics to do it. The slime would be impossible to wash off afterwards.
ack-ack
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Why does anyone care if their gaming the game for score. The score thing is stupid anyway. People know who the good sticks are and score doesn't tell that. So I say let the building killers kill their buildings.
duhhhhh
For example the guys that do play the scoring game in a honest way?
And even if you don't care for score yourself doesn't mean you don't care for someone setting bad examples.
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You'd have to resort to the same tactics to do it. The slime would be impossible to wash off afterwards.
ack-ack
LOL
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Why does anyone care if their gaming the game for score. The score thing is stupid anyway. People know who the good sticks are and score doesn't tell that. So I say let the building killers kill their buildings.
Meh, if you dont care about a problem, then why post about it. People care about the score system for different reasons and most can agree that there are some problems with it. If you dont care dont post.
For example, say there was a serious bug with the Spit16 and people who fly the spit16 want it to be fixed. I hate that plane and have never flown it. It would be like me coming into that thread and saying "get rid of the plane altogether" or "who cares that it is messed up since it's a n00b plane anyways" Wouldn't be very productive would it?
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For example the guys that do play the scoring game in a honest way?
And even if you don't care for score yourself doesn't mean you don't care for someone setting bad examples.
Honest way?
I assume that would mean no spawn camping, strat milking etc.
That would include an awful lot of people.
I don't think we will ever see scoring in its purest form in this game.
There will always be milking, camping, and hunting specific targets to get a better hit% etc.
I think the Idea of having a "Plane only" arena is a pretty good idea.
Having a alt cap and no base taking would be alot of fun for those inclined to that type of game.
Don't get me wrong, the scoring system is flawed, and it would be nice to see it perfected.
But for every better mousetrap, there is always a better mouse.
And KOSTIC, as far as not bringing up individuals, maybe you haven't looked closely enough at this and past threads on the subject.
Even if the individuals name isn't actually said out loud (but it usually comes up) then it is made so obvious ,there is nothing left to the imagination.
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duhhhh,
another dumb &^% comment from your helmet. Please feel free to exclude me from any of your quotes no matter how much they bother you.
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Honest way?
I assume that would mean no spawn camping, strat milking etc.
That would include an awful lot of people.
I don't think we will ever see scoring in its purest form in this game.
There will always be milking, camping, and hunting specific targets to get a better hit% etc.
I think the Idea of having a "Plane only" arena is a pretty good idea.
Having a alt cap and no base taking would be alot of fun for those inclined to that type of game.
Don't get me wrong, the scoring system is flawed, and it would be nice to see it perfected.
But for every better mousetrap, there is always a better mouse.
And KOSTIC, as far as not bringing up individuals, maybe you haven't looked closely enough at this and past threads on the subject.
Even if the individuals name isn't actually said out loud (but it usually comes up) then it is made so obvious ,there is nothing left to the imagination.
To keep this productive I'm interested in what you think is "scoring in its purest form"?
Yes some peoples names have been brought up as you suggest but only to illustrate to the problem in the scoring system.
Kostic
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If you read my quote again, you will see that it is the very question I asked when responding to Lushe, before I started rambling on!!
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Meh, if you dont care about a problem, then why post about it. People care about the score system for different reasons and most can agree that there are some problems with it. If you dont care dont post.
For example, say there was a serious bug with the Spit16 and people who fly the spit16 want it to be fixed. I hate that plane and have never flown it. It would be like me coming into that thread and saying "get rid of the plane altogether" or "who cares that it is messed up since it's a n00b plane anyways" Wouldn't be very productive would it?
all true, however how many times is this going to be a topic when it will never change. Do people stop hoing, ramming , running to ack etc etc etc. I see the text buffer light up with no end in site about these things. These people will never change and will find new ways to tweak the scoring system. It's their loss but it's also their $15. So as long as the system stays the same so will their game play. All I'm saying is this topic is a waste of time (imo) Most here will claim that they use the scoring system to see if their improving from tour to tour. I would speculate that it has more to do with testosterone levels than anything else. Oh yah one more thing.... my $15 is also as good as yours so I can post my opinion anytime I want, just like Bronk can.
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I can just hear this guy right now....."Yup, you know it....top fighter in MW.....suck it up losers!" Oh and I think this is a pic of him.....(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/slash27.jpg)
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If you read my quote again, you will see that it is the very question I asked when responding to Lushe, before I started rambling on!!
Shhh he's slow... give him a min or two.
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all true, however how many times is this going to be a topic when it will never change. Do people stop hoing, ramming , running to ack etc etc etc. I see the text buffer light up with no end in site about these things. These people will never change and will find new ways to tweak the scoring system. It's their loss but it's also their $15. So as long as the system stays the same so will their game play. All I'm saying is this topic is a waste of time (imo) Most here will claim that they use the scoring system to see if their improving from tour to tour. I would speculate that it has more to do with testosterone levels than anything else. Oh yah one more thing.... my $15 is also as good as yours so I can post my opinion anytime I want, just like Bronk can.
You go girl.
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Shhh he's slow... give him a min or two.
While SkyRock is making a joke of this, he has a valid point.
Oh, and what he posted earlier where not scoring metrics (pure or impure), but mearly arena play suggestions.
Unless you have something productive to say go troll some other post.
Kostic
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While SkyRock is making a joke of this, he has a valid point.
Oh, and what he posted earlier where not scoring metrics (pure or impure), but mearly arena play suggestions.
Unless you have something productive to say go troll some other post.
Kostic
I was pointing out a reason that was already given to his question. Sadly he missed it or he wouldn't have asked again.
His problem he didn't like me pointing it out. Why it's your problem I have no idea.
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Folks not interested in score have it shoved in their face when they log on to the AH website. They are not going to the boards to see that info. Now when interest is peaked they might check to see just what that score consisted of.
Just last night in MW there was a pony squad bragging how wonderful they were. They kept on and on so finally I looked at their stats...
There were only 2 of them mouthing.... one had 2 kills and the other had 1. These boys were flying at 20 to 25K in MW. I bet they were a great aid to their country. :rofl
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Folks not interested in score have it shoved in their face when they log on to the AH website.
I'm using direct link to th forums. The only time I see that stuff is when something is announced in news forum, or enything else makes me checking out the news on websie :)
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Do you remember top gun where Maverick meets Iceman at the bar and what was there first verbal exchange?
Iceman: "Have you figured it out yet?"
Maverick: "Figured out what?"
Iceman: "Whos the best pilot?"
Thats why the board will never go away..
EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW HOW THEY STACK UP AGAINST ANOTHER :aok
And you need an artificial number to let you know? :)
Look at the responses here. It seems fairly clear that the guys who fly where Bigamer flies know exactly how 'good' he is. He's hardly getting much respect for his 'rank' despite it being number 1.
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I always give a looksee at the end of the month to see who dweebed out that month. :aok
:noid
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Oh yah one more thing.... my $15 is also as good as yours so I can post my opinion anytime I want, just like Bronk can.
Actually the BBS is free so you don't even have to pay to troll scoring threads! :aok And I say troll with respect. :D
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Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.
Kositc
What usually happens is AKAK, N72, or I are #1 fighter for the first half of the month, but because we actually fight in fighter mode by the end of the month he has taken over with his four or five sortie fighter sweeps.
Also take a look at the past months at his base captures. Every morning between 2-6am he and a few others will be in there milking bases when no one else on. If you're ever up then I dare you to log on and not find biggamer, razzz, or banger1 in there milking.
Another idea I have is when a country has 0 or less then half the numbers of anther side the higher side should have troop carriers disabled.
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I concur. On a side note, is there even 20 people to kill in the Mid War arena? :lol
Come on in and check it out. I think you might enjoy it.
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Come on in and check it out. I think you might enjoy it.
I agree and maybe he'll get lucky and get into a fight with you 1v1. You and a few others are the ones that keep me coming in, knowing that if I encounter you or any of those others, I'll be in for a good 1v1 fight. <S>
ack-ack
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i enjoyed the 255 kills per hour score i got in late war for one day, was up, killed spawn camper and landed in less than 3 seconds,one shot, was my first kill in a GV this month kinda play's heck with the score keepers
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Why does anyone care if their gaming the game for score. The score thing is stupid anyway. People know who the good sticks are and score doesn't tell that. So I say let the building killers kill their buildings.
No offence but from the title of this thread whats buildings got to do with it?
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I agree and maybe he'll get lucky and get into a fight with you 1v1. You and a few others are the ones that keep me coming in, knowing that if I encounter you or any of those others, I'll be in for a good 1v1 fight. <S>
ack-ack
Same to you..... One day I'll get that blasted 38 of yours :pray
(do you ever go AFK by chance?) :D :rofl
:salute
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Same to you..... One day I'll get that blasted 38 of yours :pray
(do you ever go AFK by chance?) :D :rofl
:salute
If you see he and I are flying together, shoot me a PM, and I'll give ya a PM during the times he's afk. Don't tell anyone though ;)
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Every morning between 2-6am he and a few others will be in there milking bases when no one else on. If you're ever up then I dare you to log on and not find biggamer, razzz, or banger1 in there milking.
:rofl ... last week I cracked/bruised a rib so I couldn't sleep well and woke up at 4 am ... decided to jump on and see what happens in the MW at that time.
The 3 stooges were milkin' the arena for all it was worth. So I played sneaky and thwarted their capture at a vehicle base for about 15 minutes, which caused razzz and banger to log, and biggamer to move to another part of the map and take the other countries V bases.
What I like about the MW arena ... it's like the old AH of days gone by ... you don't need the "score" page to know who is who and who deserves the "respect" of being a "fighter" and who the wussys are.
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So what is this player doing? My guess is he has a shade or several shades and changes names often. I believe you can do that now. That last person I even took notice of had a 40% hit percentage and he either left the game or no longer plays. The only reason I took notice of him was after a reset I immediately logged on. My squadies had just left a base and where grabbing. This guy was returning from a base already. Uh? He landed 12 kills! That made me suspicious so I looked at the guy's score.
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I've said before in other threads about the time I went into EW when 6 folks were in there. All were on the same team just capturing bases. You want their names..... look on Ah main page.
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Listen you suspicious creatures :devil he vulched the runway twice :t and the 3rd set of buffs ran into a mountain :frown: B G :salute
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For a bbs full of people who say they don't care about score, it's funny how posts like this always soar into multiple pages. ;)
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Never heard of him
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For a bbs full of people who say they don't care about score, it's funny how posts like this always soar into multiple pages. ;)
I think it is funny how incredibly dweeby and twitish people get about wanting their name on the front page. If you don't see the humor in some tard milking the score machine in an empty arena, then just move along and dont post. Not to mention I find great joy in outing scoretardlets that vulch second accounts, and always have! :aok
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No offence but from the title of this thread whats buildings got to do with it?
How do you think these dweebs get ranked #1. It's not only flying in attack mode for fighters but porking starts and undefended bases (ie killing buildings)
in attack mode to keep their attack score resonanle in order to acheive the low rank. So mention of building killing (imo) is within the subject matter. :salute
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How do you think these dweebs get ranked #1. It's not only flying in attack mode for fighters but porking starts and undefended bases (ie killing buildings)
in attack mode to keep their attack score resonanle in order to acheive the low rank. So mention of building killing (imo) is within the subject matter. :salute
Lynx reffered you to the title of the thread which is "top Fighter" so attack scores are not included in that portion so it is not within subject matter :salute
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:furious :furiousWhat i was trying to relate was if a pilot was innocent of second account :angel: isn t there something wrong with the scoring system ?
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For a bbs full of people who say they don't care about score, it's funny how posts like this always soar into multiple pages. ;)
People keep saying that ... but never read or understand ... it's not a question of caring about "score" directly, it has more to do with caring about a fair and level playing field from an overall game standpoint ... which is paramount for any game to survive ... for the "long run".
I too am one who could give a rats arse about score, but if I were to change my thinking and decide to see if I could get to #1 ... I would want to feel secure that my efforts and what those efforts entailed, were the same type of effort required for any and all who are trying for #1.
Because of this "crap" that people pull to achieve rank is basically why those of who could care less ... do case less ... we know it's not fair and balanced.
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I understand your point and where you're coming from. But how easy would it be for HTC to make a fix that would prevent this "crap?" Very easy. Something like a minimum sortie / flight time requirement could be added tomorrow.
For my part, I'll admit that I like looking at stats. My k/t is usually my weakest stat, so I use the stats as a benchmark to see if I can improve it (without vulching). :aok
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when it comes right down to it I think we all look at stats and score, but some of us know that they only matter when compared to your own stats, because we don't necessarily follow a person around and can say with absolute that he /she flies this or that way.
score definitely does not show "ability" I am never "scored" below 2,000 yet I kill high ranked players every time I fly, and most of them are very easy to kill 1vs1.
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Lynx reffered you to the title of the thread which is "top Fighter" so attack scores are not included in that portion so it is not within subject matter :salute
understand .... however these people do not just go for top fighter score they go for the whole thing. I am commenting on their mindset not just the fighter ranking
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For a bbs full of people who say they don't care about score, it's funny how posts like this always soar into multiple pages. ;)
Who said they didn't care about score? I do, at least half of me does. I care about integrity more. Like Skyrock I find it amusing. I mean it's like a 400lb man trying to hide behind a cane pole.
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understand .... however these people do not just go for top fighter score they go for the whole thing. I am commenting on their mindset not just the fighter ranking
not me :D
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Lynx referred you to the title of the thread which is "top Fighter" so attack scores are not included in that portion so it is not within subject matter :salute
Xbrit !
I think TOP FIGHTER has lots to do with attack mode Sir.
The top ranking players will make one good run in FIGHTER MODE at the beginning of tour.
Then they DARE NOT to fly again in FIGHTER MODE ! They stay in ATTACK mode till the end of tour. This way they don't RISK hurting their FIGHTER score...
I think that's the way it works.... :lol
Many times when you encounter these players(flying in attack mode of course), you see they lack of fighter skills but do manage to be #1 fighters.... :rofl
What a joke :rofl
Phil / OPP7755
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when it comes right down to it I think we all look at stats and score, but some of us know that they only matter when compared to your own stats, because we don't necessarily follow a person around and can say with absolute that he /she flies this or that way.
score definitely does not show "ability" I am never "scored" below 2,000 yet I kill high ranked players every time I fly, and most of them are very easy to kill 1vs1.
Anyone is easy to kill in a hurri. :aok
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i got 3 people in mind who Muska could be, one of em i doubt (Adonai) and 2 of em are plausible (Dextur or AXER, both took a break and told a fellow SAPPer that he used to wing with Kar a lot, someone else in SAPP said soemthin to make me wonder if Muska could be one of em) just my thoughts
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Anyone is easy to kill in a hurri. :aok
actually, I have met some very good sticks that used there planes advantages, and never gave me that shot, a lot of times those will end in a stale mate, unless my foe is a better than average shot -cough KOSTIC cough- :salute
but I have to admit I like bringing her up to 12 k, she will hold her own against the best of em, once the red guy tries to knife fight with me, or goes for any short vertical loops the cannons are just to much,
I will also say someone who truly knows there F4 can turn fight with the hurri and win.
I fly the Hurri pretty much exclusively, I want to fly nothing else for a month, and see where I bring my hit % to, what sux is its so damn slowwww, that's why I take it up high gives me that E that is so important for the first couple engagements, but I always end up on the Deck fighting more than I can keep track of, than sitting in the tower, adrenaline pumping hands visibly shaking.
dude, we will have to wing up one of these days and jump into a major hourd, I think with the "Thatch weave"
two hurris can do some serious damage.
JETSOM
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:rofl ... last week I cracked/bruised a rib so I couldn't sleep well and woke up at 4 am ... decided to jump on and see what happens in the MW at that time.
The 3 stooges were milkin' the arena for all it was worth. So I played sneaky and thwarted their capture at a vehicle base for about 15 minutes, which caused razzz and banger to log, and biggamer to move to another part of the map and take the other countries V bases.
What I like about the MW arena ... it's like the old AH of days gone by ... you don't need the "score" page to know who is who and who deserves the "respect" of being a "fighter" and who the wussys are.
Hes done that so many times when I stopped them I cant even keep count. They kinda want me to get my old name back and have two accounts so they cant run and milk the other countries bases because I cant switch over.
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actually, I have met some very good sticks that used there planes advantages, and never gave me that shot, a lot of times those will end in a stale mate, unless my foe is a better than average shot -cough KOSTIC cough- :salute
but I have to admit I like bringing her up to 12 k, she will hold her own against the best of em, once the red guy tries to knife fight with me, or goes for any short vertical loops the cannons are just to much,
I will also say someone who truly knows there F4 can turn fight with the hurri and win.
I fly the Hurri pretty much exclusively, I want to fly nothing else for a month, and see where I bring my hit % to, what sux is its so damn slowwww, that's why I take it up high gives me that E that is so important for the first couple engagements, but I always end up on the Deck fighting more than I can keep track of, than sitting in the tower, adrenaline pumping hands visibly shaking.
dude, we will have to wing up one of these days and jump into a major hourd, I think with the "Thatch weave"
two hurris can do some serious damage.
JETSOM
Flying the hurri is too frustrating, everyone will just run from you after they take a stab at ya. That's why I love the 38 so much, people lick their chops to shoot a 38 down. We will wing up in the MA one of these nights though.. :salute
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Flying the hurri is too frustrating, everyone will just run from you after they take a stab at ya. That's why I love the 38 so much, people lick their chops to shoot a 38 down. We will wing up in the MA one of these nights though.. :salute
never flew the 38 much, when I started out in 03 the guy that brought me in was Jozepi, he was a 38 nut, he tried to get me to fly that but I loved to turn to much so I went to the Zero, but that thing burns way to easy!!
you are right it does get frustrating flying the hurri,
I look forward to it :aok
heck I will take up the 38 so I can keep up :aok
JETSOM
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I think I know how he got such a high hit %. It came to me after reading the post about using the 38 as an artillery piece to kill gvs. He lands on the runway and rolls the lancs up to his p38 and then just blasts away. Now he can't land behind them because a formation would crush him on takeoff and the ground may be unlevel. So he rolls the Lancs to himself at the other end of the runway. Now why isn't it a 100%? That's because of the virtual gravity. The bullet drops probably after 4 to 600 yards out if not sooner and the cannon rounds probably at a shorter distance. Since the Lancs are behind one another the distance is too great for the rounds to make it there. Further after firing at the first lanc it explodes and the bullets then hit nothing.
I have to go the TA to make sure I'm correct on this. I think the 38 sits fairly level on the runway. But even if the nose is up it still works since he now has to pull the lancs close and the rounds fire over the drones.
Good Theory?
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If that is what he does I'm guessing "land2". He has kill him 19 times while he was in in bombers. That my be his "fighter sortie" kills along with someone that may have run into.
From fighting him many times I can tell you the guy couldn't get a 54% hit percentage if all his targets were level and 200 feet away. He has admitted to me that he used to have a shade that he vultched a few tours ago. Maybe he is doing it again.
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For a bbs full of people who say they don't care about score, it's funny how posts like this always soar into multiple pages. ;)
And as they explain each and every time: it isn't the rank they are jealous of as you seem to imply. It's the fact that poor and often "questionable" (as some people found with the new score pages) gameplay is being rewarded with the "name in lights". On the front page of HTC website at that.
So in response to your amazement at people commenting on things like this I must merely comment that I find it funny how after many people have explained this to the BBS; you still make a "it's funny how" response.
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you are right it does get frustrating flying the hurri,
The fun is flying the Hurri-1. They might think about running when they see the HURR icon, but when they get close enough to see it change to HURR1, they lick their chops...until you turn circles around them and send them to the tower scratching their heads.
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The fun is flying the Hurri-1. They might think about running when they see the HURR icon, but when they get close enough to see it change to HURR1, they lick their chops...until you turn circles around them and send them to the tower scratching their heads.
Or they just use the vert against it and cream you... :D
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Lynx reffered you to the title of the thread which is "top Fighter" so attack scores are not included in that portion so it is not within subject matter :salute
then it degraded into how and why they do it..... you think this just pertains to only fighter score? They do it across the board not just in ftr mode or should I start another tread about total score munging. You seem to have bypassed all the other posts that have strayed off the original topic.
I Know you Brits have a thing about being proper and such. I think that you guys really need to focus more on your dental hygiene before splitting hairs about straying off topic.
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I think that you guys really need to focus more on your dental hygiene before splitting hairs about straying off topic.
? How bizarre ?
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? How bizarre ?
The Brits aren't known for thier smashing smiles :D, well very few are.
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No offence but from the title of this thread whats buildings got to do with it?
then it degraded into how and why they do it..... you think this just pertains to only fighter score? They do it across the board not just in ftr mode or should I start another tread about total score munging. You seem to have bypassed all the other posts that have strayed off the original topic.
I Know you Brits have a thing about being proper and such. I think that you guys really need to focus more on your dental hygiene before splitting hairs about straying off topic.
Lynx reffered you to the title of the thread, "you" have decided it's ok to hijack or at least condone hijacking. Maybe if you stayed on topic there would be no need to be a Jack, or is that beyond you ?
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Geeze bigplay, pathetic to say the least. I wonder if Bigplay = Biggamer?
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Geeze bigplay, pathetic to say the least. I wonder if Bigplay = Biggamer?
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doubt it. jezz some of you guys need a sense of humor and stop taking everything so serious. This tread has gone from the fighter score munging issue to talk about the Hurricane's flying characteristics. What does the Hurricane have anything to do with Skyrock's post. I don't see Xbrit mentioning any of that. I also think the hijacking accusation is a little over the top. But keeping with the sence of humor thing I'll just consider both of your posts as jokes.
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Bigplay = Biggamer?
No need to get insulting, calling someone Biggamer is enough to get you killed in some part of the world :D
Bigplay is actually a good guy, total opposite of the 'tard known as Biggamer.
ack-ack
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Geeze bigplay, pathetic to say the least. I wonder if Bigplay = Biggamer?
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Bigplay is a good guy. We've had disagreements but when it comes down to it he's clean when engaged.
warps a bit but clean in his engagements.
Don't confuse Bigplay with big gamer......
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The fun is flying the Hurri-1. They might think about running when they see the HURR icon, but when they get close enough to see it change to HURR1, they lick their chops...until you turn circles around them and send them to the tower scratching their heads.
ive done a few hurri1 runs this tour and last..takes to long with the pea shooters, i can never finish the fight someone else has to help me. more assists than hits with it
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No need to get insulting, calling someone Biggamer is enough to get you killed in some part of the world :D
Bigplay is actually a good guy, total opposite of the 'tard known as Biggamer.
ack-ack
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Still though, I just saw nothing funny in the comment about Brits. Having several Brits in my squad I feel a need to stand up for them. Not that they can't do it themselves but we're a team.
Giving the benefit of doubt, sometimes the forums are such a bad communication medium.
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Geeze bigplay, pathetic to say the least. I wonder if Bigplay = Biggamer?
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Can you say NOT!!!???
Hi BigplayT :D
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Bigplay is a good guy. We've had disagreements but when it comes down to it he's clean when engaged.
warps a bit but clean in his engagements.
Don't confuse Bigplay with big gamer......
I have resolved that problem Stick. Had anti virus running in background. I may still have a mini warp for a bit after I log on but calms down after a bit of flying.
Getback, I also have a number of Brit friends , some for years. I always pull their chain and they pull back. If I strayed off topic a bit it wasn't intended to be a hijack. There are a lot of great fights to be had in MW many 1vs1, many not. It's a more intimate arena and people come to know who will give them good fights and who will not. These score mungers aren't part of the equation and they generally not only have low ftr ranks but bomber, attack and gv. Sorry for any offense you may have taken. I'm a joker at heart and sometimes an azz. My New Years resolution is to not be so abrasive concerning this game. To those of you who were on the receiving end of said abrasiveness , I apologize. For those of you that made mention of my attempt for good clean fights I :salute
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The fun is flying the Hurri-1. They might think about running when they see the HURR icon, but when they get close enough to see it change to HURR1, they lick their chops...until you turn circles around them and send them to the tower scratching their heads.
I have had almost every plane send me to the tower many times but not many Hurr1's. The paint chippers they have make it difficult to get any real damage , that is unless you fly straight and level long enough allowing them to put enough lead on one spot to do anything. I just ran up against one the other night in an F4F and I can say I did hear quite a bit of pinging but other than a few scattered hole he did no noticable damage. I may be wrong but I think with the BB,s in this game other than getting lucky and shooting the tail off or a pilot wound it is very difficult to actuall shoot someone down on your own. I'm sure most Hurri 1 kills have another plane that does the final damage giving the Hurri pilot the kill
. I woundn't mine fighting one in a D3A, that would be a fun fight.
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One night me and AKAK took up Stukas for a fighter sweep of fighter town. The whole flight was on the deck. Was alot of fun. I think AKAK had 2 kills before he was shot down and I actually landed 4.
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Actually might be a good idea to fix the score system, I would like to see scores that actually reflect a pilots ability instead of their timidness or ability to bomb strats
No offence here... But I get the feeling your new to Aces High.
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One night me and AKAK took up Stukas for a fighter sweep of fighter town. The whole flight was on the deck. Was alot of fun. I think AKAK had 2 kills before he was shot down and I actually landed 4.
I remember that, I had a blast that night. Yeah, got two but wasted all my ammo hitting them. That's what I get for using a Stuka to shoot down an IL2 and a Hellcat, think I ended up using a thousand rounds on each but man, I couldn't stop laughing when I finally sawed the tail off that IL2. Think I also spent a few minutes saddled on someone's 6 just following them around because I had no ammo and was finally picked.
Man, if we had the Ju-87D-5, the Stuka would be the ultimate turn fighter. 2x 20mm cannons mounted on the wings, fantastic low/stall speed fighting ability...definite killer.
ack-ack
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I'm a joker at heart and sometimes an azz.
My vote goes for part 2 of that statement.
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My vote goes for part 2 of that statement.
:rofl well... who said you even get a vote or even if there was a vote to be placed. But sticking to my attempt to be more tolerant of the endless display of pettiness by what seems to be the same people over and over, I won't post a rebuttal to a statement that can I say is unnecessary at the very least . It would only bring me back to a place I told myself I would leave.
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Geeze bigplay, pathetic to say the least. I wonder if Bigplay = Biggamer?
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no, he's not. bigplay is a decent guy.....fun to fight with, and against.
except when he's a runnin in his a20..... :D :noid :rofl
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Thanks Cap but haven't seen you in some time, when do you usually log?
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Is Bi-Gamer Axer in shades?
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Is Bi-Gamer Axer in shades?
No, different people and yet both are perfect examples of poster children for birth control.
ack-ack
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Thanks Cap but haven't seen you in some time, when do you usually log?
WHEN I MANAGE TO GET ON, it's usually a little after 9pm or so eastern.........but lately, i've been finishing up work so damnd late i go home, look at the forums, email, then shower n pass out.
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Is Bi-Gamer Axer in shades?
no, they are different but the same , both have huge chips on their shoulders. . All are kids and really have some form of school yard beating syndrone that some how is now rearing it's ugly head. We are just here to witness it.
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i got 3 people in mind who Muska could be, one of em i doubt (Adonai) and 2 of em are plausible (Dextur or AXER, both took a break and told a fellow SAPPer that he used to wing with Kar a lot, someone else in SAPP said soemthin to make me wonder if Muska could be one of em) just my thoughts
I am not any of those people.
Sorry man.
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(http://www.kookoobearkids.com/images/11030034B-t.jpg)?
wrongway
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(http://www.kookoobearkids.com/images/11030034B-t.jpg)?
wrongway
Biglamer and/or the guy he claims is his brother. Muska flies the same timid, unskilled way as either of those two tools.
ack-ack
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Yeah and he brings it up every time you tell him he sucks.
Wish they would make it so you have to have 25+ sorties before you register a score for that mode. That'll put an end to most of those tards.
sooooo.....those of us that are lucky to fly more than 5 or 10 hours a month, are to be excluded again?
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I concur. On a side note, is there even 20 people to kill in the Mid War arena? :lol
look in there again dude. i hadn't been on for almost a month.....logged in last weekend, and found almost 50 people in there.
to me that's perfect. a decent number to create good fights, but not so many, that ya end up gettin ganged in every fight.
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See this idea I proposed a couple months ago, similar concept to minimum sortie rank but a little more forgiving. Most people would rather bash me for trying to come up with a good idea than actually get anything that is broken fixed. :rolleyes:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250509.0.html
it sucks now too. all of you people that suggest this poop, forget that there's those of us that can't fly hundreds of hours a month, like some can. hell, even when i was flying a lot, i was only logging 30-40 hours a month.
there is no fixing this. if it's changed, those that game it now, will simply find another way to game it.
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How bout we just remove the list of "top pilots" from the front page so that no one cares? :)
THIS is the best idea i've read yet. :aok
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do away with the monthly resets and accumulate stats to come up with uber rank status. at least that way it will prevent those that game the game just to get recognised for a one off occurance.
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AW's system was like that. Even factored in vulches...the more you repeatedly killed a player, the less points he was worth. Funny thing is, only AW's score system was visible to players, the rank system was only visible with AWAR game master commands.
ack-ack
Ack-ack, what was your handle in AW?
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all true, however how many times is this going to be a topic when it will never change. Do people stop hoing, ramming , running to ack etc etc etc. I see the text buffer light up with no end in site about these things. These people will never change and will find new ways to tweak the scoring system. It's their loss but it's also their $15. So as long as the system stays the same so will their game play. All I'm saying is this topic is a waste of time (imo) Most here will claim that they use the scoring system to see if their improving from tour to tour. I would speculate that it has more to do with testosterone levels than anything else. Oh yah one more thing.... my $15 is also as good as yours so I can post my opinion anytime I want, just like Bronk can.
and if the system changes, so will the ones that game the game. it will take them less than 1 month to figure out how.
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While SkyRock is making a joke of this, he has a valid point.
Oh, and what he posted earlier where not scoring metrics (pure or impure), but mearly arena play suggestions.
Unless you have something productive to say go troll some other post.
Kostic
ok.......
the scoring system isn't quite right. it's a lot better than it could be also. it allows high time, and low time pile-its to fly and be able to see their ranks. by high time, i mean those that can fly high hours during a month, and low time, lower hours during the month.
an ex-squaddie of mine, would log well over 120 hours in a single month. there's guys like me that are lucky to log 20 hours in a month.
all of these suggested systems exclude the low hour pile-its. on top of that, those who wish to gain a decent rank, simply by gaming the game, WILL still do that. so now, we've excluded a portion of the player base, but in reality, that is ALL that was changed.
the best way to stop this poop, is to remove the top scorers from the homepage every month. let players see their scores on the score page, but stop "embracing" the top fighter pile-it, bomber pile-it, etc.
the last thing that would help stop these guys, would be to stop making threads like this. they're sitting in their basements, reading this poop, and laughing their arses off.
was that constructive enough sir? :aok
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These boys were flying at 20 to 25K in MW. I bet they were a great aid to their country. :rofl
this is one of the drawbacks to getting too many LW guys to come to MW. there's plenty of good sticks there, that would be fun as all hell to fight. there's also the alt monkeys. that's why i never really go to LW. i hate spending the extra few minutes to climb to 20k, as opposed to finding a fight at 10k and below.
when you only fly a few hours a month, you really don't want to waste the time with them.
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Y A W N ! Again those who tout that score "doesn't matter" being totally obsessed with it! :huh :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :huh
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Y A W N ! Again those who tout that score "doesn't matter" being totally obsessed with it! :huh :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :huh
We in the muppets like to point out cheaters, it's part of our spy network. :aok :devil
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Y A W N ! Again those who tout that score "doesn't matter" being totally obsessed with it! :huh :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :huh
Are you still failing to see the difference in people caring about gameplay as compared to "omg i need to run away to preserve my ranking! run run run" ?
Not very hard to differentiate. :rolleyes:
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21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...
And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone :noid watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour
lusche shade account to watch lancs take off he brags he only kills bombers in fighter mode is why he has high hit % he waits till he sees 1=r 2 sets lancs take off ups to kill
shouldv;e seen him bigplay and grumpy37 say i'm the one score potatoing. larry was lhis arse off. at the irony
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This is an easy fix. Yahoo pool game figured it out years ago. Your rank is based on the skill of the person you kill. Have a low score kill someone at higher rank get more points for that kill. Have a high score kill someone with lower score get less points for that kill. And don't say all the nobs :D like me will start the ho war of the century it takes two to ho if one plane doesn't want to ho just turn away. Just my 2cents worth.
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This is an easy fix. Yahoo pool game figured it out years ago. Your rank is based on the skill of the person you kill. Have a low score kill someone at higher rank get more points for that kill. Have a high score kill someone with lower score get less points for that kill. And don't say all the nobs :D like me will start the ho war of the century it takes two to ho if one plane doesn't want to ho just turn away. Just my 2cents worth.
Angels10
BUT HOW CAN THE game determine someones skill?
there's guys in here that are VERY good cartoon pile-its, but have poop for score, because they don't care. then there's the guys that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag with a knife. they "game the game", and have excellent scores.
how would the system determine their respective skill levels?
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On that note.... can someone please open this bag and let me out...... puuulllleeeaseeeeeee?
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On that note.... can someone please open this bag and let me out...... puuulllleeeaseeeeeee?
you're not n a bag...you're just going blind from..................
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Are you still failing to see the difference in people caring about gameplay as compared to "omg i need to run away to preserve my ranking! run run run" ?
Not very hard to differentiate. :rolleyes:
:rofl The shade vulchers and cheaters aren't even in the fight to begin with! so (W T F )---> again, Y A W N !
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I ho'd the crap out of pacerr yesterday to prevent her from running. I shoulda got mad points for that.
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Ack-ack, what was your handle in AW?
The same as it was in here. AKAK.
ack-ack
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BUT HOW CAN THE game determine someones skill?
there's guys in here that are VERY good cartoon pile-its, but have poop for score, because they don't care. then there's the guys that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag with a knife. they "game the game", and have excellent scores.
how would the system determine their respective skill levels?
Get rid of the ATTACK category to begin with ;)
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it takes two to ho if one plane doesn't want to ho just turn away.
This is an incorrect statement. It only takes one to HO, I dodge them constantly, I get hit about 1-- 2% of the time, and that is usually because I am in stall fight with someone else and cant turn or dodge out of the way.
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:rofl The shade vulchers and cheaters aren't even in the fight to begin with! so (W T F )---> again, Y A W N !
neither are you, cherrying then running isn't fighting by the way. :aok
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This is an incorrect statement. It only takes one to HO, I dodge them constantly, I get hit about 1-- 2% of the time, and that is usually because I am in stall fight with someone else and cant turn or dodge out of the way.
I agree completely, I know in two instances last camp where I tried to avoid the ho and got nailed anyway. The only thing I think though is what could I have done differently. Obviously I'm not going to change the way another player flies.
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You guys talking about Biggamer's rank from Tour 106?
If you are, you have to realize what type of player you are talking about. He was caught a few months ago vulching shade accounts with Dextur and Axer to get top scores in the MW arena and he's just found another way to game the score/rank system. Though, he will deny it to high heaven that he doesn't play for score/rank, his actions speak the opposite. He craves the validation and *giggle* respect that comes with being a good stick, of which he'll never receive through normal game play because he lacks the skills to acheive no higher than being a mediocre player. He feels that if he can somehow show he's #1 in the MW, he'll get the accolades he so craves but doesn't realize that the route he takes to acheive that 'Experten' status will be forever tarnished because he had to game his way to the top.
So what does he do now to acheive the top spot? He'll only engage in fighter sorties where he has a high probability of a kill without any risks (i.e. vulching, shooting down bombers) and after a handful of sorties, he will then score all of his flights under 'Attack' to prevent his fighter score from taking a hit when he routinely gets his arse handed back to him by the most average player.
Basically, he's a kid looking for love in all the wrong places.
ack-ack
sad but true, he isn't a bad kid but he is as misguided as they get. He is addicted to being a score dweeb and try as he might he always returns to his ways. It's his $ so he can play how he wants but he is always seeking approval from the AH community which unfortunately only brings out the repromanding he loaths. I believe he could become a very well rounded player if he left the rank stigma behind but sad to say that probally won't happen.
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neither are you, cherrying then running isn't fighting by the way. :aok
:lol
Ziiiiiinnnnnnnnnng!
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sad but true, he isn't a bad kid but he is as misguided as they get. He is addicted to being a score dweeb and try as he might he always returns to his ways. It's his $ so he can play how he wants but he is always seeking approval from the AH community which unfortunately only brings out the repromanding he loaths. I believe he could become a very well rounded player if he left the rank stigma behind but sad to say that probally won't happen.
he actually is a decent pile-it.
he took his a-20 into a virtual hornets nest last weekend over a64, and i think he came out alive with a few kills to boot.......
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neither are you, cherrying then running isn't fighting by the way. :aok
:rofl :rofl carefull, your cape is caught in your supergirl skirt, your wind might blow them both off, then we might see your Va J J ! :aok
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:lol
Ziiiiiinnnnnnnnnng!
:rofl the other cartoon bighead speeks :rofl :rofl "you go kill all the bad goblins" keep your scarf on and don't forget dinner is at 6,Oh and you need a bath tonight sport!
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:rofl the other cartoon bighead speeks :rofl :rofl "you go kill all the bad goblins" keep your scarf on and don't forget dinner is at 6,Oh and you need a bath tonight sport!
This is a totally nonsensical paragraph.
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This is a totally nonsensical paragraph.
WOW think outside the box a little :aok (sarcasm) :rofl
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Those that think not out of the box do so for fear of falling off the edge of the earth.
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shouldv;e seen him bigplay and grumpy37 say i'm the one score potatoing. larry was lhis arse off. at the irony
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everyone knows grumpy doesn't lie. :aok One again RS, please use the spell check option. My face now hurts from all the contorting it did trying to pronounce the misspelled words of yours
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Unless the "score/rank at all costs" types are using their fame to get chicks in the sack then I can understand going for a score.
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See Rule #4
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Go take a look at the #1 fighter right now. Looks a bit suspicious to me. :noid
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Go take a look at the #1 fighter right now. Looks a bit suspicious to me. :noid
Nope
He found a masochistic newb.
wrongway
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Go take a look at the #1 fighter right now. Looks a bit suspicious to me. :noid
LOL! Yep, sure does.
Nope
He found a masochistic newb.
wrongway
Nope, 5 sorties under fighter (probably buff kills) and the rest under attack to preserve his fighter rank. I'm sure Hamer6 will take it the wrong way but he really isn't all that good to get #1 fighter unless it's by gaming the system.
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It would be simple, I think, to build a minimum sortie requirement into the ranking. When someone can fly a single type sortie all tour long and come out on top for that type then the system is worthless for all intents an purposes.