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Title: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: 4deck on January 08, 2009, 06:00:16 PM
Between losing some players and the knights really going downhill. I may be taking an extended break myself. The saddest is losing constantly for about 3 months. Just aint fun for me, so Im gonna score potato the #1 in attack mode. Its where i find myself mostly.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: gpwurzel on January 08, 2009, 06:02:09 PM
There 2 other chess peices you can fly for you know. My squad have taken the route of rotating between all 3 countries - much more fun, and you get to meet waaaay more people.

Every country has its ups and downs, all are the same and all have good and bad in equal part.


Dont let it get to you,

Wurzel
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Stang on January 08, 2009, 06:13:40 PM
You go girl!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: stodd on January 08, 2009, 06:18:54 PM
 :noid The knight dictatorship will be censoring this thread once its seen. Nothing to see here, please move along. :noid
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bj229r on January 08, 2009, 06:20:41 PM
Between losing some players and the knights really going downhill. I may be taking an extended break myself. The saddest is losing constantly for about 3 months. Just aint fun for me, so Im gonna score potato the #1 in attack mode. Its where i find myself mostly.

Or..mayhap...you COULD try that aerial combat thingie
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: choker41 on January 08, 2009, 06:24:37 PM
Floats I feel your pain.  A lot other do to.  Knights really do have great Furballers though.  They have to cause I never see them when we need help.  Goodluck on the attack #1 thingy.  For me just trying to get under 400 in fighter rank is my goal.  I don't do the cap a base and vulch thing.  I know a lot of people fly fighter mode this way.  Looks like we should throw in the towel and work on our goals.   Good luck Knights.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: RoGenT on January 08, 2009, 06:36:17 PM
I also know the frustration of being on the knights. And true in affect, they do have some good furballers but often they do so when others who want to take bases end up getting left in the cold. Not saying its just for the knights, even bish and rooks have those moments too. I just set goals for myself, at least I did when I was flying with the knights
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Lusche on January 08, 2009, 06:37:56 PM
"All we can do is furball"

Perpetual whine on every countrychannel ;)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: uptown on January 08, 2009, 06:38:45 PM
4Deck = Floatsup? If so good luck with the #1 attack rank. Anyway,rooks aren't much better. I seen a base last week we was at for over a hour,(holding cap) :rolleyes: in other words just vulching, and the town was full up. Even the ack  :lol We could of took that base 4 or 5 times during that time but no one wanted it i guess. :rofl But that's what rooks do and thats why I'm there.I have no interest in land grabbing anymore.

My point being, I found out some time ago that I couldn't depend on my fellow countrymen to make the game fun for me. I had to figure out what I liked doing and do it. I got too fed up waiting on troops just to see them dropped on the field. Or depending on 1488475 to kill the last town building or shoot the spit strafing my M3. So, I threw my hands in the air and became a furballer. It's alot more fun and satisfying for me.

I left the bish because all they wanted to do is follow GHI everywhere and fly in huge packs. Getting help at a base being attacked was pretty much not happening because everyone was hangin' with the pied pieper. :salute

Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Stang on January 08, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Floats I feel your pain.  A lot other do to.  Knights really do have great Furballers though.  They have to cause I never see them when we need help. 
:lol

What a horses bellybutton statement.  Because they aren't doing exactly what you want them to do they aren't helping?  Last I heard shooting down the enemy was a big help to one's country. 

Toolshedders need the furballers.  They can't shoot down anyone by themselves, which is why they travel in huge packs annihilating every hangar, strat and outhouse in the way.  Smash everything and the enemy can't fly, so we don't have to shoot them down, cause we can't.  Furballers don't need you, as long as there's someone to fight we're fine... we don't mind the easy kills when we find you though.

 :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: mechanic on January 08, 2009, 06:40:01 PM
Between losing some players and the knights really going downhill. I may be taking an extended break myself. The saddest is losing constantly for about 3 months. Just aint fun for me, so Im gonna score potato the #1 in attack mode. Its where i find myself mostly.



major mistake man! youre going to go from hating losing the war to hating losing the top rank.....do do it my friend....step away from the light.

If you hadnt noticed the one thing the nits are really good at is furballing.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Stang on January 08, 2009, 06:44:26 PM
This game is all about numbers, pure and simple.  Whatever side has the most will win 99% of the time.  Not hitting this strat or that base or noe'ing that doesn't matter.  The sides are almost evenly matched (sorry Bish, almost I said :aok ) so it just comes down to who swarms the other.  If the Knights had the most fliers you wouldn't be here crying, you'd be slapping each other on the backs and circlejerking each other about how good you guys are not understanding why... actually you would whine, just about ENY and not about how people fly.

 ;)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: TequilaChaser on January 08, 2009, 06:46:11 PM
Between losing some players and the knights really going downhill. I may be taking an extended break myself. The saddest is losing constantly for about 3 months. Just aint fun for me, so Im gonna score potato the #1 in attack mode. Its where i find myself mostly.


don't take this the wrong way , but exactly what is it that the knights are losing? or what is it that they can actually win? outside of some perk points ( everyone gets these no matter who resets a map/terrain. You just get more if your country is the Country resetting the map ).

Try and find other motivational parts of the game like working with a wingman, switching up plane  types you fly, work on ACM mistakes you find yourself having, or join FSO, or Extreme Racing League. or as you posted try for gaining a #1 rank slot for a month, or maybe for a string of months.  but the whole idea is to be having fun in whatever you are doing, not to win or lose.....

and with that said, I mean that toward any event, scenario, FSO, Extreme Racing League, KOTH, etc..... the whole idea is to have FUN & ENJOYMENT , rather than winning anything.  The winning part is always going to be a chance of fate 50/50 no matter how good you think you really are.....
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: choker41 on January 08, 2009, 06:55:35 PM
This game is all about numbers, pure and simple.  Whatever side has the most will win 99% of the time.  Not hitting this strat or that base or noe'ing that doesn't matter.  The sides are almost evenly matched (sorry Bish, almost I said :aok ) so it just comes down to who swarms the other.  If the Knights had the most fliers you wouldn't be here crying, you'd be slapping each other on the backs and circlejerking each other about how good you guys are not understanding why... actually you would whine, just about ENY and not about how people fly.

 ;)

Good point (even though you flamed me before).  Our numbers have been down compared to the other chess pieces.  Thinking one person can make a difference by porking  bases when outnumbered, I've come to realize its just slowing down the inevitable.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: CAP1 on January 08, 2009, 07:11:22 PM
just remember.....

the grass is always greener on the other side.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 08, 2009, 07:13:47 PM
I also know the frustration of being on the knights. And true in affect, they do have some good furballers but often they do so when others who want to take bases end up getting left in the cold. Not saying its just for the knights, even bish and rooks have those moments too. I just set goals for myself, at least I did when I was flying with the knights

You make it sound like those of us that like to fight are somehow obligated to help you toolshedders take a base when you cry for help.  I'm sorry but that's just not going to happen.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 08, 2009, 07:15:53 PM
This game is all about numbers, pure and simple.  Whatever side has the most will win 99% of the time.  Not hitting this strat or that base or noe'ing that doesn't matter.  The sides are almost evenly matched (sorry Bish, almost I said :aok ) so it just comes down to who swarms the other.  If the Knights had the most fliers you wouldn't be here crying, you'd be slapping each other on the backs, spamming Country Channel with "OINK!" and circlejerking each other about how good you guys are not understanding why... actually you would whine, just about ENY and not about how people fly.

 ;)


Sorry Stang, had to fix your comment.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Stang on January 08, 2009, 07:18:23 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Tr0jan on January 08, 2009, 07:18:56 PM
As wurzel said.. try getting/finding a squad that jumps countrys every so often, The Few do it.. and its fun meeting new people you never spoken to before.. new friends.. and learn new things about the way each country flys  :)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Stang on January 08, 2009, 07:20:08 PM
Damnit Trojan what kinda beer is the kid in your avatar holding?  Gotta be some good stout toejam.

Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: 4deck on January 08, 2009, 07:34:38 PM
Actually Nice responses, thanx.   :aok Need to get my suger in order I guess, had some brew.

ROger 4deck is floats. Just had to BIACH   :cry  :cry My country sux, but its my chess peice. LOL   :D

Cheers

See you in the skies, hopefully in the sights.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: stodd on January 08, 2009, 07:56:14 PM

Sorry Stang, had to fix your comment.


ack-ack
:rofl





OINK!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Guppy35 on January 08, 2009, 08:24:21 PM
:lol

What a horses bellybutton statement.  Because they aren't doing exactly what you want them to do they aren't helping?  Last I heard shooting down the enemy was a big help to one's country. 

Toolshedders need the furballers.  They can't shoot down anyone by themselves, which is why they travel in huge packs annihilating every hangar, strat and outhouse in the way.  Smash everything and the enemy can't fly, so we don't have to shoot them down, cause we can't.  Furballers don't need you, as long as there's someone to fight we're fine... we don't mind the easy kills when we find you though.

 :aok


LOL too true.

I was Rooks the other night and country was all about taking bases.  Guys were organizing their missions and yelling for everyone to join.

3 of us were at the largest red dar bar, which I believe was Knits.  They were hording bases north while the Rooks were trying to horde south.  Three of us got mugged over and over again fighting the one horde, while the Rooks horde mugged someone else.  Finally the message the Rooks horde had been looking for came over the text.   41 captured by Rooks!

WTG! all over country.  Naturally in the course of that time the Knits up north had taken 4 Rook bases with their horde.

I was having fun dying over and over as usual however but the 'war winning' and the new math made me laugh.

It's the same in every country.  Lighten up and have some fun.  No one really dies, the planes are free and the cartoon real estate all looks the same. :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: TOMCAT21 on January 08, 2009, 08:30:50 PM
Floats, your still my hero .. :salute
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: dkff49 on January 08, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
I don't know what the fuss is about, I think the knights win all the time.


I'll explain:

Don't we all win if we are having fun. If we are not having fun then wouldn't we log.

I say we all are winners.

The only thing finishing the war accomplishes is it resets the map, oh and of course there is the perk points which amount gives you what exactly.

I don't consider the war being finished by anybody actually winning the war. There is no trophy, no acknowledgment after the fact (except for that 1 line in the text buffer), and no payment or free subscription. So really what do you win? You really just managed to accomplish forcing everybody to log out of map and wait a few minutes to come back to a random map and have to start everything over again. The only time I welcome a finished map is when certain maps are up so that we clear them out to make way for a map that I like better.

As stated before though, everybody has their favorite way to play and theirs may not be the same or match up to yours. I don't worry about what others want me to do in game unless they are going to start paying my subscription for me so texting in CAPS and yelling over vox or complaining on the boards will only make me spend my time on line either as far away from where you are as possible or squelching you upon the receiving either of these signs or maybe even both.

Now I know the OP was only merely stating that he is changing his basis for enjoyment and giving the reasons but since everybody else decided to state their opinion I thought I would as well.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: grizz441 on January 08, 2009, 08:44:34 PM
This game is all about numbers, pure and simple.  Whatever side has the most will win 99% of the time.  Not hitting this strat or that base or noe'ing that doesn't matter.  The sides are almost evenly matched (sorry Bish, almost I said :aok ) so it just comes down to who swarms the other.  If the Knights had the most fliers you wouldn't be here crying, you'd be slapping each other on the backs and circlejerking each other about how good you guys are not understanding why... actually you would whine, just about ENY and not about how people fly.

 ;)

So true, it's nice to think that being a good stick you will be able to fend off more bad guys, but 5 good sticks will still lose to 10 cherry picking typhies.  The horde is unstoppable without a horde yourself.  NOT good for gameplay.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: texasmom on January 08, 2009, 09:21:45 PM
I have a tremendous amount of fun on the knights side. There's times of great cooperation in base capture; and times when more work on your part due to less work on the part of others is required for capturing bases.  Most of all it's fun either way.  :aok

Was rook for about a year ~ was the same there ~ was always fun, but not all of the time was completely efficient base-taking time.

*edit* And I agree that if you're not having fun as a knight, there's no foul in moving to another side. Nobody can begrudge you that! :)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: StokesAk on January 08, 2009, 09:28:18 PM
I think the knight are at a low point because they only have i real leader Floats. For example FALCON23, ghi, and J0KER lead the bishops to victory ith missons and defence. Don't know bout the rooks.   :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: A8TOOL on January 08, 2009, 09:38:27 PM
I think he started the thread because he feels or see's a lack of teamwork on his side.

Not one of the chess pieces has a perfectly rounded side... knits being the most oblong I guess I could say.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Messiah on January 08, 2009, 09:41:53 PM
Why limit yourself to chess piece allegiance?  Set yourself free and fly wherever you feel like flying.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bmwgs on January 08, 2009, 11:49:47 PM
Why limit yourself to chess piece allegiance?  Set yourself free and fly wherever you feel like flying.

You answered your question with you second sentence.  My question is why switch?  I'm happy where I'm at, and I have seen numerous posts that there is little difference between the sides.  I have never felt the need to switch. 

Those that want to switch, that's fine, I personally don't have a problem with that.  I personally perfer to stay where I'm at, because each and everyday that I log on I have fun.  I guess that is what it is all about, isn't it?

 :salute

Fred 

I have to make a little side note.  I have switched a couple of times, and that has been when I received some training from other players that were gracious enough to provide me with some informal training.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Messiah on January 09, 2009, 01:30:03 AM
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Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Messiah on January 09, 2009, 01:33:03 AM
You answered your question with you second sentence.  My question is why switch?  I'm happy where I'm at, and I have seen numerous posts that there is little difference between the sides.  I have never felt the need to switch. 

Those that want to switch, that's fine, I personally don't have a problem with that.  I personally perfer to stay where I'm at, because each and everyday that I log on I have fun.  I guess that is what it is all about, isn't it?

 :salute

Fred 

I have to make a little side note.  I have switched a couple of times, and that has been when I received some training from other players that were gracious enough to provide me with some informal training.

The OP stated he was unhappy where he was at, I suggested trying a different side of things, you answered in a way that made it seem I was specifically addressing you which I wasn't.  If you're happy where you are, then great.  The OP clearly isn't, thus the suggestion to drop the fly for one country routine and try something fresh.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bmwgs on January 09, 2009, 01:54:01 AM
The OP stated he was unhappy where he was at, I suggested trying a different side of things, you answered in a way that made it seem I was specifically addressing you which I wasn't.  If you're happy where you are, then great.  The OP clearly isn't, thus the suggestion to drop the fly for one country routine and try something fresh.

Didn't know you were specifically speaking to the OP.  Thought you were addressing the thread in general.  Sorry for the mistake.

Fred
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Nilsen on January 09, 2009, 03:17:14 AM
What is this basetaking i hear so much about?


*shakes head and just keeps having fun on someones six*
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Rich46yo on January 09, 2009, 04:42:05 AM
And then you'd switch and get upset at the Rooks, or the Bish. I dont think any of the above fly much different from each other.

Last night I spent the evening defending a base against a horde of aircraft and GV'ers. Thats all I did, and I assume the ones I kilt and kept getting kilt by? I assume thats all they did too. Nothing was accomplished, other then the fact we defended so desperately we kept pulling samurais against running troops defended by wirbels. When I signed off the base looked like it did when I signed on. Still I spent an evening flying with a good bunch against a good bunch and thats enough.

Everyone thinks the Rooks are so organized but believe me there are plenty of nights where we spend all night running around like blinded lemmings. Your not feeling anything anyone else, on any other chess piece, has felt.

The Nits got a lot of good sticks and good guys. I would just roll with it.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Getback on January 09, 2009, 08:10:42 AM
BMW is right, The reason you came to the game in the first place is to have fun. Yeah it sure gets complicated. It's difficult to get everyone to do what you think needs done. Well actually impossible. There are times when even Falcon and Ghi cannot get folks to join their missions.

Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 09, 2009, 08:50:42 AM
One shouldnt have to win to have fun.   ;)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Denholm on January 09, 2009, 09:56:55 AM
Amen.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Getback on January 09, 2009, 09:58:04 AM
One shouldnt have to win to have fun.   ;)

I agree but isn't it fun to win!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Denholm on January 09, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
Well of course! If there were not a desire to win, they wouldn't be playing or be alive for that matter.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 09, 2009, 10:23:57 AM
No one shall say all the countries "are about the same" without this graph posted in the thread:
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1682/countryqi6.jpg)
 :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: waystin2 on January 09, 2009, 10:29:57 AM
Hello Gavagai,

Very cool and informative graph Sir.  I am not amazed at the disparity between the Rooks and the Knights/Bishop.  I said before in a previous post that the Rook as a nation are much harder to fight than the Bishop.  It will be interesting to see how this information influences this and future discussions.

<Salute>
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: iTunes on January 09, 2009, 12:40:35 PM
Jump in your favourite crate, get to about 600-1000ft, hang at the edge of a base and fight anything that comes to meet you, you'll have fun and learn to handle your ride at the same time, take them all on at once, you'll most likely get a few auguers, take some damage and eventually die, but I promise you'll have a blast doing so, forget the war, means zip, great when you see a 38, jug etc inb to you on the deck, most of the time it's someone looking for a good fight also, just  mix it up, have fun and up again.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: lyric1 on January 09, 2009, 12:44:59 PM
It's all cyclic nits will turn it around at some point :aok as all the other chess pieces go through it at some point.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: ink on January 09, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
 I "win" when I am being ganged and fighting the evil hoard :aok

JETSOM's General Stats for Late War Tour 107
Total Sorties: 243
Total Sortie Time: 23:05:29
Sortie Type         End Sortie Type
Fighter    243         Landed    62
Attack    0         Discos    9
Bomber    0         Bails    28
VehicleBoat    0         Ditches    1
FieldGunner    0         Captured    39
               320 Kills    150 Deaths

and people say the hurri is a "one trick pony" "Hoicane" and such, out of those 320 killz, 254 are in the Hurri2c, with only 96 deaths,    how many HOs do you think awarded me Killz? I would bet less than 1%
Vulches? Zero
picks? maybe 3%
outnumbered? 90% easy

it has taken me so many deaths to get these numbers, and years of fighting the hoard, Never since 03 have I Captured a base,or was concerned about the "war" so have I been losing all this time?

HECK NO I have been winning, having an absolute blast, enjoying a great combat sim,
don't stick to one chess piece, don't worry about the "war" its pointless, to an extent, its there to promote combat!!!
just do what YOU enjoy, that's how you win!!!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: hammer on January 09, 2009, 01:16:24 PM
Floats I feel your pain.  A lot other do to.  Knights really do have great Furballers though.  They have to cause I never see them when we need help.  Goodluck on the attack #1 thingy.  For me just trying to get under 400 in fighter rank is my goal.  I don't do the cap a base and vulch thing.  I know a lot of people fly fighter mode this way.  Looks like we should throw in the towel and work on our goals.   Good luck Knights.
I also know the frustration of being on the knights. And true in affect, they do have some good furballers but often they do so when others who want to take bases end up getting left in the cold. Not saying its just for the knights, even bish and rooks have those moments too. I just set goals for myself, at least I did when I was flying with the knights

This attitude always baffles me. Where do you think the people the furballers are fighting would be if the furball wasn't happening? They'd be shooting down your buffs and goons.

Toolshedders need the furballers... Furballers don't need you, as long as there's someone to fight we're fine...

 :aok

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: hammer on January 09, 2009, 01:22:08 PM
I agree but isn't it fun to win!

When I shoot someone down, I win. That's a lot different from happening to be in the country whose hoarde allowed them to reset the map. All a map reset means to me, regardless of who does it, is I find myself suddenly flying around deep in Indian country!

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: ROX on January 09, 2009, 01:42:26 PM
Between losing some players and the knights really going downhill. I may be taking an extended break myself. The saddest is losing constantly for about 3 months. Just aint fun for me, so Im gonna score potato the #1 in attack mode. Its where i find myself mostly.



<<<S>>>  Floats....

We knights are used to being the outnumbered underdogs--but here lately when we'd be outnumbered by 30 on one side and 50 or 70 on the other it was downright demoralizing.  Five guys upping to defend a base with four full red dar bars coming at you was definitely no fun.

Hopping sides to the already bloated sides would have just made it even worse.  

It really reminded me of AW not long before it went bankrupt...one side getting gangbanged so bad that no body flew that side anymore, and the remaining two sides toolshedded it for fun & profit while nobody was home.

When the Claim Jumpers went rook the first of the year, the rooks suddenly found themselves with almost 100 new guys who were ardent base-takers...then they decided to make their former countrymen their new project.

The last few nights the numbers have been a little better, so maybe there is hope...but I see a lot of knights throwing in the towel and leaving the game.

Hang in there Floats and see what happens.  :salute   




ROX

<EDIT:  typo>
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: iTunes on January 09, 2009, 01:49:48 PM

<<<S>>>  Floats....

We knights are used to being the outnumbered underdogs--but here lately when we'd be outnumbered by 30 on one side and 50 or 70 on the other it was downright demoralizing.  Five guys upping to defend a base with four full red dar bars coming at you was definitely no fun.

Hopping sides to the already bloated side would have just made it worse.  

It really reminded me of AW not long before it went bankrupt...one side getting gangbanged so bad that no body flew that side anymore, and the remaining two sides toolshedded it for fun & profit while nobody was home.

When the Claim Jumpers went rook the first of the year, the rooks suddenly found themselves with almost 100 new guys who were ardent base-takers...they they decided to make their former countrymen their new project.

The last few nights the numbers have been a little better, so maybe there is hope...but I see a lot of knights throwing in the towel and leaving the game.




ROX



Hey Rox <S>
what night was it when there was like 100 extra players on either side and we had around 70 odd? I remember about 8 of us upping for a huge horde, think it was jokers and maybe rolling thunder, but I'm not sure, sure it was A53 that was the target of the bish horde if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: hammer on January 09, 2009, 01:52:35 PM
When the Claim Jumpers went rook the first of the year, the rooks suddenly found themselves with almost 100 new guys who were ardent base-takers...then they decided to make their former countrymen their new project.

Which, I suspect, is one of the reasons HiTech is opposed to mega-squads. A change like that upsets any balance that has been gained and will not easily be offset. I, for one, would like to see them enforce their rule against such squads.

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: waystin2 on January 09, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
It will cycle as all things do in life.  Eventually the Knights will be the big kid on the block, and the Bishop will get their turn.  Knights rise up and combat the evil Rook & Bishop no matter the odds!   And Remember...
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/braveheart.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Lusche on January 09, 2009, 02:03:21 PM
Which, I suspect, is one of the reasons HiTech is opposed to mega-squads. A change like that upsets any balance that has been gained and will not easily be offset. I, for one, would like to see them enforce their rule against such squads.

I'm just wondering how?  I can't see any way to prevent several "squads" seeing themselves as part of a mega-squad and winging up informally.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: ROX on January 09, 2009, 02:11:26 PM
Hey Rox <S>
what night was it when there was like 100 extra players on either side and we had around 70 odd? I remember about 8 of us upping for a huge horde, think it was jokers and maybe rolling thunder, but I'm not sure, sure it was A53 that was the target of the bish horde if I'm not mistaken.


 :salute Mr iTunes (say hey to Mrs. iTunes for us!)

Oh yeah...that night was a blast.  We're thinking of changing the squad motto to : "Cannon Fodder"



ROX
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: hammer on January 09, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
I'm just wondering how?  I can't see any way to prevent several "squads" seeing themselves as part of a mega-squad and winging up informally.

Well, you've got me there. I suspect if it was easy, they would already be doing it! Right now it's pretty obvious but any attempt at enforcement of the rule would simply make them go underground.

Regards,

Hammer
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: waystin2 on January 09, 2009, 02:21:42 PM
I'm just wondering how?  I can't see any way to prevent several "squads" seeing themselves as part of a mega-squad and winging up informally.

This was my thought.  I dislike dealing with a horde of incoming red as much as the next guy.  I however do not think any restrictions should be placed on these squads because the countries they fly against are unable to work in a unified manner to combat them.  I am not saying to create a horde to fight the horde, I am saying pork their ords, their troops, hassle them on their flanks, fighter sweep them, launch a GV attack, flatten one of their bases in their line of attack, or a myriad of other activities that will make a hordes existence miserable.  It only takes a few groups of guys attacking on multiple fronts to have an impact on a hordes ability to wage war.  Not to mention that this generates a lot of fights and fun.  This situation is something that will eventually balance over time as I have said before.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 09, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
Hello Gavagai,

Very cool and informative graph Sir.  I am not amazed at the disparity between the Rooks and the Knights/Bishop.  I said before in a previous post that the Rook as a nation are much harder to fight than the Bishop.  It will be interesting to see how this information influences this and future discussions.

<Salute>

Strange, I find Rookies just as easy to shoot down as Bish and Knitwits.  Only thing I've noticed about the Rookie side is the large amount of limp wristed timid players that run from a fight at the drop of a pin and their love of the hord.

Maybe that's why there is such a disparity between the Rookies and the other two.  Bish and Knitwits seem more willing to furball while the Rookies are satisfied with running and hording.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: waystin2 on January 09, 2009, 02:25:11 PM
Well Ack-Ack you said it more succinctly than I would have,  but more or less true.

<Salute>
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 09, 2009, 02:28:17 PM

We knights are used to being the outnumbered underdogs--but here lately when we'd be outnumbered by 30 on one side and 50 or 70 on the other it was downright demoralizing.  Five guys upping to defend a base with four full red dar bars coming at you was definitely no fun.





ROX

<EDIT:  typo>


The irony of your statement is so thick you can cut it with a knife.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: ROX on January 09, 2009, 02:42:18 PM
The irony of your statement is so thick you can cut it with a knife.


ack-ack

I've never been in an operation that had four full darbars, so I guess I miss your irony.



ROX
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 09, 2009, 02:56:30 PM
I've never been in an operation that had four full darbars, so I guess I miss your irony.



ROX

You've always been in a mission that has always been part of a large hord attacking relatively undefended bases.  I guess you can't see the irony from all the crap you wade in.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: ROX on January 09, 2009, 02:57:59 PM
You've always been in a mission that has always been part of a large hord attacking relatively undefended bases.  I guess you can't see the irony from all the crap you wade in.


ack-ack

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Proving the fact that Ack Ack absolutely has ZERO clue what he's talking about.

Thank you for making your total ignorance public.



ROX
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: dkff49 on January 09, 2009, 03:02:31 PM
I've never been in an operation that had four full darbars, so I guess I miss your irony.



ROX


The way Iunderstand the radar set up you won't see 4 full dar bars either. The dar bar is shows a comparison of friendlies to enemies not actually representing an actual number.

Here is link to radar section of trainers site

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/radar/radar.htm (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/radar/radar.htm)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Murdr on January 09, 2009, 03:03:08 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Proving the fact that Ack Ack absolutely has ZERO clue what he's talking about.

Thank you for making your total ignorance public.



ROX
Phail
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Slate on January 09, 2009, 03:10:45 PM
   When I first joined I was put on the Rooks side and stayed there ever since. Perhaps AH should assign new signups to the less populated side. Some will change country but many will stay out of loyalty to the country they are defending. Just a thought.  :) Join the Rooks and you can become an Assist Ace.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: whiteman on January 09, 2009, 03:13:08 PM

The way Iunderstand the radar set up you won't see 4 full dar bars either. The dar bar is shows a comparison of friendlies to enemies not actually representing an actual number.

Here is link to radar section of trainers site

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/radar/radar.htm (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/radar/radar.htm)

what he means is having four sectors next to each other with Red dar bar maxed out in each.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Murdr on January 09, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
   When I first joined I was put on the Rooks side and stayed there ever since. Perhaps AH should assign new signups to the less populated side. Some will change country but many will stay out of loyalty to the country they are defending. Just a thought.  :) Join the Rooks and you can become an Assist Ace.   :rolleyes:
Mugzeee:
Quote
But i think it is safe to say, that allocating new players to the low numbered country at signup and first log on, is the only way to balance the count.


It has been this way for over a month.


HiTech
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: dkff49 on January 09, 2009, 03:17:37 PM
what he means is having four sectors next to each other with Red dar bar maxed out.

ok my mistake
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: StokesAk on January 09, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
Tee Hee
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Rich46yo on January 09, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Proving the fact that Ack Ack absolutely has ZERO clue what he's talking about.

Thank you for making your total ignorance public.



ROX

Imagine getting stranded somewheres with him, with all his misery, condescension, and negativity. :huh

What an altogether wretched little man.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bj229r on January 09, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
Well Ack-Ack you said it more succinctly than I would have,  but more or less true.

<Salute>
Ummm...WHAT's the name of that huge group of guys you always fly with again?
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 09, 2009, 04:56:08 PM
Ummm...WHAT's the name of that huge group of guys you always fly with again?

Me, myself and I?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: falcon23 on January 09, 2009, 04:58:39 PM
"All we can do is furball"

Perpetual whine on every countrychannel ;)

I have not ever seen you bish lusche,OH I know..SPYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :noid
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Becinhu on January 09, 2009, 05:23:51 PM
ROX, in reference to the rooks gaining 100 new players when CLAIM JUMPERS switched jan 1st that is a little over the top. Our actually member ship total is only about 75 with at least 20 of those only flying 1-2 days a week or less. The most we ever have on at once is about 30 and that is normally on FSO nights and TT. WE also don't exclusively pick on the knights it's normally whichever side the person setting up the mission decides on. We started our country rotation because alot of the old guys were getting burned out on always having to defend against hoard A or hoard B every night. The bonus to switching every month is that you get to fly with people you have fought with and against in FSO and in the MA and make new friends. We aren't the only squad that switches monthly either. As an example I used to hate seeing UNFORGIVEN in the buffer, especially when they shot me down. But after working with mystic2 and HacksawX in FSO several times I found that they were a great bunch of guys. We'll be back around to knights either in Feb or Mar depending on if we go Bish next month or not.

(It's also fun to bust up ROX and FBDred missions since we have flown IN so many of them) :aok

All in fun.  :salute
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Lusche on January 09, 2009, 05:31:34 PM
I have not ever seen you bish lusche,OH I know..SPYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :noid

 :D

I started my career as a regular Bish. I still do a few sorties per tour in Bishland, though it's rarely more than 3-4 % of my kill total.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Guppy35 on January 09, 2009, 05:31:58 PM
In a typical example of how the game works last night.

Flying Rooks.  A few of us are fighting at 39 against a higher and larger mob.  A couple guys on country are breaking their caps locks yelling at all of us for being such lousy players not defending 201 from the horde.  One of them then gives up on 201 and comes to 39.  At the same time a few of us go to 201.  as time goes by the green dar bar starts to get bigger then the red at 201 and the fight moves to the Knits base 197.  

Now keep in mind the Knits have been trying to take 201 and have had their own horde there for a couple hours.  The fight is finally pushed to 197 and what comes across 200?

"Typical high alt ganging Rooks over 197!"

Now to be fair, this guy had apparently only logged on a few minutes previously, but it cracked me up.

Most clearly find safety in the horde.  The fight was dead so I landed and taxied into the hanger at 197.   In another typical example of how the majority play the game, another Rook mistook my plane in the hanger for a Knit and tried to vulch me and killshot himself :)

A Squaddie was then told that he wasn't a real Rook because he didn't only fly Rook and it was suggested we go somewhere else.

Gonna run out of cartoon countries to fly in this way :)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Becinhu on January 09, 2009, 05:37:33 PM
WHile fighting at 97 last night Corky I noticed an oddity. You not only LANDED your plane but it only had 1 engine out and NO missing parts. If you aren't careful you will have your SAPP license revoked.  :t
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 09, 2009, 05:45:54 PM
WHile fighting at 97 last night Corky I noticed an oddity. You not only LANDED your plane but it only had 1 engine out and NO missing parts. If you aren't careful you will have your SAPP license revoked.  :t

This has already been brought to the attention of the Grand Exhalted Ruler.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Stang on January 09, 2009, 06:16:59 PM
Imagine getting stranded somewheres with him, with all his misery, condescension, and negativity. :huh

What an altogether wretched little man.
:lol

I'd have a beer with AKAK anytime, and we'd have a blast I guarantee it.  Doing the same with ROX would involve me saying,  "Hi, can I buy you one?"  He'd say, "Piss off."

Who's the wretched one?

Idiot.

 :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bj229r on January 09, 2009, 06:39:25 PM
In a typical example of how the game works last night.

Flying Rooks.  A few of us are fighting at 39 against a higher and larger mob.  A couple guys on country are breaking their caps locks yelling at all of us for being such lousy players not defending 201 from the horde.  One of them then gives up on 201 and comes to 39.  At the same time a few of us go to 201.  as time goes by the green dar bar starts to get bigger then the red at 201 and the fight moves to the Knits base 197.  

Now keep in mind the Knits have been trying to take 201 and have had their own horde there for a couple hours.  The fight is finally pushed to 197 and what comes across 200?

"Typical high alt ganging Rooks over 197!"

Now to be fair, this guy had apparently only logged on a few minutes previously, but it cracked me up.

Most clearly find safety in the horde.  The fight was dead so I landed and taxied into the hanger at 197.   In another typical example of how the majority play the game, another Rook mistook my plane in the hanger for a Knit and tried to vulch me and killshot himself :)

A Squaddie was then told that he wasn't a real Rook because he didn't only fly Rook and it was suggested we go somewhere else.

Gonna run out of cartoon countries to fly in this way :)
Lol either 'greens' or 'Spyder-somethin' told me the same thing the other night.......(I've been a rook for like 9 years :lol)
Such folks are damned serious about the 'win-the-war' thing, and, sadly, see no other aspect to this wonderful game.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bj229r on January 09, 2009, 06:46:51 PM
Me, myself and I?


ack-ack
Lol no, I was referring to Waystin--order of statements:

Ack-Ack:
Quote
Maybe that's why there is such a disparity between the Rookies and the other two.  Bish and Knitwits seem more willing to furball while the Rookies are satisfied with running and hording.

Well Ack-Ack you said it more succinctly than I would have,  but more or less true.

<Salute>

Ummm...WHAT's the name of that huge group of guys you always fly with again?
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Banshee7 on January 09, 2009, 06:53:09 PM
Ummm...WHAT's the name of that huge group of guys you always fly with again?

thats a SKWAD!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: crazyivan on January 09, 2009, 06:56:41 PM
thats a SKWAD!
When Google has a question, they ask AcK- AcK. :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Banshee7 on January 09, 2009, 06:58:11 PM
When Google has a question, they ask AcK- AcK. :aok

i believe it!  AKAK is full of knowledge  :)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Murdr on January 09, 2009, 07:00:53 PM
i believe it!  AKAK is full of knowledge  :)

That's not the word I use to describe what he is full of, but ok.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Banshee7 on January 09, 2009, 07:01:32 PM
That's not the word I use to describe what he is full of, but ok.

I really didn't wanna get hit with the "big stick" if ya know what I mean  :D
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Nightshift82 on January 09, 2009, 07:24:06 PM
I have fun playing Aces High 2 outnumbered or not, with or without the horde, at high alt or on the deck, or attending snapshots.  In my years of playing in the MA, every country goes through cycles.  At one hour/day/month/year, bish has the numbers and is rolling bases, then the nits, then the rooks in no particular order.  It's part of the game, squads come and go, switch sides, merge with other squads and so on.  The fact is: taking bases is only ONE aspect of the game, some folks like to take bases, some just like to dogfight, some like ground battles and so on.  I like to do all but gv'ing, but I have fun with the rest.  Just be nice, have fun, squelch the people you don't want to hear or read text from, relax, and enjoy the game.

That's my two cents take it as you will.....
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: FiLtH on January 10, 2009, 12:30:12 AM
  The map is but a stage..no one says wtg stage.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: kvuo75 on January 10, 2009, 12:54:37 AM
I have fun playing Aces High 2 outnumbered or not, with or without the horde, at high alt or on the deck, or attending snapshots.  In my years of playing in the MA, every country goes through cycles.  At one hour/day/month/year, bish has the numbers and is rolling bases, then the nits, then the rooks in no particular order.  It's part of the game, squads come and go, switch sides, merge with other squads and so on.  The fact is: taking bases is only ONE aspect of the game, some folks like to take bases, some just like to dogfight, some like ground battles and so on.  I like to do all but gv'ing, but I have fun with the rest.  Just be nice, have fun, squelch the people you don't want to hear or read text from, relax, and enjoy the game.

That's my two cents take it as you will.....

:aok :aok :aok

but -- do you play in LW blue lately? knights are typically outnumbered 3:1 total on a regular basis, yet everyone still take our bases!

Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: waystin2 on January 10, 2009, 10:16:33 AM
Ummm...WHAT's the name of that huge group of guys you always fly with again?


My squad is listed in my sig line Sir. 
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bj229r on January 10, 2009, 10:52:51 AM

My squad is listed in my sig line Sir. 
It was rhetorical ;)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: sirvlad on January 10, 2009, 01:07:45 PM
Some of you guys r real idiots
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: mechanic on January 11, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
are you saying the rest of us are faking it?
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: texasmom on January 11, 2009, 10:16:36 PM
are you saying the rest of us are faking it?
:)
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: kilz on January 12, 2009, 05:41:26 PM
when i first started my squad we stayed with the nits but as time went on they grew old and stale. we started doing tours with rook and bish, but we do it with a way to keep the loyal feeling to one country we do 1 tour with bish then 2 tours with nits then 1 tour with rook then 2 tours with nit then bish for 1 then back to nits for two then rooks for one so on and so on. we voted on the new rotation as a squadron and all are happy with it.


we do have open spots if you would like to try us out  :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Bruv119 on January 13, 2009, 02:53:43 AM
when i first started my squad we stayed with the nits but as time went on they grew old and stale. we started doing tours with rook and bish, but we do it with a way to keep the loyal feeling to one country we do 1 tour with bish then 2 tours with nits then 1 tour with rook then 2 tours with nit then bish for 1 then back to nits for two then rooks for one so on and so on. we voted on the new rotation as a squadron and all are happy with it.


we do have open spots if you would like to try us out  :aok

I'm  :confused: is that 2 bish 1 nit 2 rooks or 1 , 2 ,2  or 1 , 2, 1   :mad:
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Joker2 on January 13, 2009, 08:01:16 AM
It's funny i guess, how things change.
When i first started playing this game Rooks and Nits always won the wars.
Bish were tied to the whipping post so to speak.
Recently Bish have worked together and organized themselves and now we are not easy prey.
Then here come the whines from the same people who when things were different were pounding thier chests about how good and great they were.

Maybe the better way to approach this is to try to beat us at our own game which is what bish did to reverse the course.

Nits and rooks only show flashes of organization.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Tr0jan on January 13, 2009, 08:02:44 AM
It's funny i guess, how things change.
When i first started playing this game Rooks and Nits always won the wars.
Bish were tied to the whipping post so to speak.
Recently Bish have worked together and organized themselves and now we are not easy prey.
Then here come the whines from the same people who when things were different were pounding thier chests about how good and great they were.

Maybe the better way to approach this is to try to beat us at our own game which is what bish did to reverse the course.

Nits and rooks only show flashes of organization.

You know, i was dreding being a Bishop once the Squad had to do it rotation.. but im really liking bishops.. nice flying along side Jokers Jokers
with the likes of Joker ghi good pilots  :salute Joker

~Ginger44
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: thrila on January 13, 2009, 08:06:07 AM
The only thing that annoys me on bish is that it seems every other person says "brwa", it makes me feel like i'm flying with dog the bounty hunter's extended family.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Tr0jan on January 13, 2009, 08:06:58 AM
The only thing that annoys me on bish is that it seems every other person says "brwa", it makes me feel like i'm flying with dog the bounty hunter's extended family.

 :rofl Afternoon Thrila..
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: thrila on January 13, 2009, 08:07:29 AM
'sup brwa!
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Tr0jan on January 13, 2009, 08:07:59 AM
'sup brwa!
BRWA! if i knew what that was  :noid
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Shane on January 13, 2009, 08:17:56 AM
BRWA! if i knew what that was  :noid

It's a support system for moobz.

 :noid
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Joker2 on January 13, 2009, 08:20:38 AM
You know, i was dreding being a Bishop once the Squad had to do it rotation.. but im really liking bishops.. nice flying along side Jokers Jokers
with the likes of Joker ghi good pilots  :salute Joker

~Ginger44
Thank You Ginger.
I might add i felt the same when you guys came to bish.
But i thought to myself hey lets give them a chance, and I also have enjoyed flying with you guys.
<S>
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bongaroo on January 13, 2009, 08:49:46 AM
...and now we are not easy prey...

I've always found most of your squad very easy to shoot down
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: pervert on January 13, 2009, 09:35:21 AM
All three sides have the same good guys bad guys idiots lamers etc theres really no difference except in your head. You get these from everyone else on country telling you those damn rooks knights bish all they ever do is ______. While your flying around in your own country you don't notice all the lame things your country men (or yourself) are doing until you view it from the other country's point of view.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: hammer on January 13, 2009, 09:42:42 AM
All three sides have the same good guys bad guys idiots lamers etc theres really no difference except in your head. You get these from everyone else on country telling you those damn rooks knights bish all they ever do is ______. While your flying around in your own country you don't notice all the lame things your country men (or yourself) are doing until you view it from the other country's point of view.
Absolutely correct.  :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Shuffler on January 13, 2009, 09:49:38 AM
I fly on low number side. All sides are the same just differing chess pieces.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: mechanic on January 13, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
All three sides have the same good guys bad guys idiots lamers etc theres really no difference except in your head. You get these from everyone else on country telling you those damn rooks knights bish all they ever do is ______. While your flying around in your own country you don't notice all the lame things your country men (or yourself) are doing until you view it from the other country's point of view.

 :salute
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Joker2 on January 13, 2009, 12:06:46 PM
I've always found most of your squad very easy to shoot down
Ok 420Ace that's it, I'm looking forward  to this DA between me and you?
I think Maybe u r just one those people that likes to start trouble.
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: bongaroo on January 13, 2009, 12:09:16 PM
Ok 420Ace that's it, I'm looking forward  to this DA between me and you?
I think Maybe u r just one those people that likes to start trouble.

I'd certainly enjoy a duel!  And I mostly just get a kick outta making fun of the horde/toolshedders; it's almost too easy.   :devil
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Joker2 on January 13, 2009, 01:39:36 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: TOMCAT21 on January 13, 2009, 08:34:08 PM
I'll say this...Joker..your a great f4u stick..another plane i'd like to learn  :salute
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: kilz on January 14, 2009, 05:05:49 PM
i am just a floating target  :aok
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: ROX on January 15, 2009, 06:04:33 PM
ROX, in reference to the rooks gaining 100 new players when CLAIM JUMPERS switched jan 1st that is a little over the top. Our actually member ship total is only about 75 with at least 20 of those only flying 1-2 days a week or less. The most we ever have on at once is about 30 and that is normally on FSO nights and TT. WE also don't exclusively pick on the knights it's normally whichever side the person setting up the mission decides on. We started our country rotation because alot of the old guys were getting burned out on always having to defend against hoard A or hoard B every night. The bonus to switching every month is that you get to fly with people you have fought with and against in FSO and in the MA and make new friends. We aren't the only squad that switches monthly either. As an example I used to hate seeing UNFORGIVEN in the buffer, especially when they shot me down. But after working with mystic2 and HacksawX in FSO several times I found that they were a great bunch of guys. We'll be back around to knights either in Feb or Mar depending on if we go Bish next month or not.

(It's also fun to bust up ROX and FBDred missions since we have flown IN so many of them) :aok

All in fun.  :salute


And a big  :salute right back atcha, Sir!


BcinU....there is a very easy way to show you are wrong (I estimated on the low side, but just a tad).

Here are the easy, step-by-step instructions:

1)  Go to the "Squads" section of this website, where squads and members are listed
2)  Take calculator, paper & pencil, etc.
3)  Call up the 7 wings of the Claim Jumpers one by one, and write down the totals
4)  Add the totals together

As of today, at the time of this post, there are 107 Claim Jumpers.

Not that they will ever get all on at one time, but if you figure a basic 60% or 70% on a really GOOD squad night, that's not a bad turn out. 



ROX
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Becinhu on January 15, 2009, 06:22:19 PM
4 of those 7 wings have 8 or less people in them, but I'm not gonna go count em, i'll take your word for it. Yes I know they should consolidate. There wouldn't be that many if Racdogg wasn't such a recruiting slut. I think he just wants the squad to resemble the LA county jail..he gets lonely after smuggling all that contriband inside with his "inside"... :uhoh

edit: 107 I apologize for the underestimate. A "good" squad night is 35..I can't even get 35 for FSO.

Come to think of it I haven't even seen about 10 of those guys before...
Title: Re: Getting Really Upset at Knights
Post by: Becinhu on January 15, 2009, 06:31:40 PM
Being a large squad does have it's funny moments though. Tuesday night (squad night) we were running basetakes to kick bish of the rook mainland when a bystander said "Look at the size of that mission". Only the goon pilot was a nonsquaddie out the the 25 or so that upped.... I know a mini-horde but having another country on your mainland is like your best friend sleeping with your sister. The Bish have their sheep for that.  :noid