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Title: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 11:40:10 AM
I know theres been quite a bit written about warpers in this game but one in particular really needs to either address the issue or move on. I for one have first hand knowledge on how warping effects the guy who is doing the warping. For about 3-4 months each time I logged into the game I was warping bad. It drove me crazy and everybody else as well. I knew it had to be something  other than my computer's capability because I didn't warp up till then. It took a lot of time and effort to finally figure out why I was warping and on the verge of quiting the game I resolved the issue. I still warp a bit when I log on the game but it stops within the first 5 minutes. I try and avoid any contact until I know the warping has stopped, unfortunately sometimes I can't avoid contact.

However there is a guy in MW who has been warping for 1-2 years now. He is a very nice guy but his trouble is his internet connection which cannot (by his own addmission) be fixed unless he moves to another area. He has warped into me while on his six now multiple times always killing me. He has magically warped from 1500 out to within 400 and shot me, he has no trouble bombing and killing you while bombing but his bombers are all but impossible to hit. When he's in a tank he has no trouble hitting you while his tank is warping so bad you can't get a bead on him. I seen him on the roof of a VH and then 100 feet to the right then 200 feet to the left. In my opinion he has warped so long and he is so use to warping that he now has an advantage over the people who fight him. I think that if a guy knows he warps and cannot get it fixed in a reasonable time he should leave the game. I don't think it's fair to the rest of the community that he just continues to play. I am sure everybody who plays MW knows who I'm talking  about. The squad he plays in is a base taking squad and when he runs and m3 he is unhitable resulting in a base capture that shouldn't have been.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Joker2 on January 12, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
Oooh I would like to know who this is?

Is he rook bish or nit?

Cuz there are some other problem people Like 18Whisky who also is nice guy but the warping is absurd.

However 18Whisky can at least be played although it does take extra time to kill him resulting sometime in another problem.

I feel a warp should disco u end of story, but i don't know enough about what causes it?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: mechanic on January 12, 2009, 11:47:18 AM
Hi my name is bat and i've been binge warping on and off for the last 4-5 years. I don't warp all the time, I dont warp infront of my Squad if possible, but when i do it's uncontrolable and dreadfully painfull for those around me to see.  I thought I could handle it, I thought it wouldnt damage my score or friendships. Well it took a while but I'm ready to face my deamons. I'm an occasional binge warper and it is ruining my life. Thanks for starting this group. Do i pay at the end or when im cured?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: bongaroo on January 12, 2009, 11:51:35 AM
Hi my name is bat and i've been binge warping on and off for the last 4-5 years. I don't warp all the time, I dont warp infront of my Squad if possible, but when i do it's uncontrolable and dreadfully painfull for those around me to see.  I thought I could handle it, I thought it wouldnt damage my score or friendships. Well it took a while but I'm ready to face my deamons. I'm an occasional binge warper and it is ruining my life. Thanks for starting this group. Do i pay at the end or when im cured?

Bwahahahhahah!  this made my day!   :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on January 12, 2009, 12:01:41 PM
Write it off to online gaming. Nothing can be done. I know who you are talking about and I have had him warp right through me more than a few times. Laugh it off....
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: waystin2 on January 12, 2009, 12:14:43 PM
Write it off to online gaming. Nothing can be done. I know who you are talking about and I have had him warp right through me more than a few times. Laugh it off....

Great advice.  Trust me, he is having a difficult time lining up on his targets too.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 12:20:41 PM
Great advice.  Trust me, he is having a difficult time lining up on his targets too.


  :furious the guy never misses when bombing gv's so I say he has adjusted to warpin just fine.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: waystin2 on January 12, 2009, 12:24:04 PM

  :furious the guy never misses when bombing gv's so I say he has adjusted to warpin just fine.


I must say that an accomplished warper is the exception not the rule Sir.  I certainly understand the frustration though.

<Salute>
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: MaSonZ on January 12, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
I have an idea who your talking about...i think. seen some warpy people in MW when i was there for a month or  2. some occaisonal warpers in the MW also play MA, im not to sure on ym guess though and dont want to point fingers.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 12, 2009, 12:38:19 PM
I know theres been quite a bit written about warpers in this game but one in particular really needs to either address the issue or move on. I for one have first hand knowledge on how warping effects the guy who is doing the warping. For about 3-4 months each time I logged into the game I was warping bad. It drove me crazy and everybody else as well. I knew it had to be something  other than my computer's capability because I didn't warp up till then. It took a lot of time and effort to finally figure out why I was warping and on the verge of quiting the game I resolved the issue. I still warp a bit when I log on the game but it stops within the first 5 minutes. I try and avoid any contact until I know the warping has stopped, unfortunately sometimes I can't avoid contact.

However there is a guy in MW who has been warping for 1-2 years now. He is a very nice guy but his trouble is his internet connection which cannot (by his own addmission) be fixed unless he moves to another area. He has warped into me while on his six now multiple times always killing me. He has magically warped from 1500 out to within 400 and shot me, he has no trouble bombing and killing you while bombing but his bombers are all but impossible to hit. When he's in a tank he has no trouble hitting you while his tank is warping so bad you can't get a bead on him. I seen him on the roof of a VH and then 100 feet to the right then 200 feet to the left. In my opinion he has warped so long and he is so use to warping that he now has an advantage over the people who fight him. I think that if a guy knows he warps and cannot get it fixed in a reasonable time he should leave the game. I don't think it's fair to the rest of the community that he just continues to play. I am sure everybody who plays MW knows who I'm talking  about. The squad he plays in is a base taking squad and when he runs and m3 he is unhitable resulting in a base capture that shouldn't have been.

i know exactly who you're talkin about. wanna hear something funny/mean?

i was in a field gun defending a vbase, while he was in a fight..i forget who it was with......but the guy comes on 200, saying ""nice warp"". i was in one of those weird/funny moods. so i go on 200, and say....."i'm sittin here in the field ack, and clearly saw YOU warp almost 1k. it took a couple minutes, but i managed to convince him that it was indeed him. he tried re-logging. the said warper was almost mad at me for that.
 i realy didn't think the other dude was gonna relog, but he did.

 and, yes....the guy you're talking about is a cool guy. i enjoy flying with him.

<<S>>
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WMLute on January 12, 2009, 12:40:23 PM
I once had to make the choice of not flying, or fly with a horrible Sat. connection with 1500ms pings.

I chose to fly.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: uptown on January 12, 2009, 12:50:03 PM
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Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 01:30:57 PM
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:lol :lol :lol :lol correct!
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: flatiron1 on January 12, 2009, 01:31:32 PM
Bat, The first step is admitting you are powerless over warping and it has made your life unmanageable.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: oakranger on January 12, 2009, 02:08:06 PM
I think i know who you are talking about.  It is .........  When he warps, i think it maybe something eals going on.  he may be running out of memory space.  that happen to me a while back when i had only %12 memory space left over.  i was warpping everywhere, so i just dump my whole C drive.  It did the trick.   
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: pervert on January 12, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
Hi my name is bat and i've been binge warping on and off for the last 4-5 years. I don't warp all the time, I dont warp infront of my Squad if possible, but when i do it's uncontrolable and dreadfully painfull for those around me to see.  I thought I could handle it, I thought it wouldnt damage my score or friendships. Well it took a while but I'm ready to face my deamons. I'm an occasional binge warper and it is ruining my life. Thanks for starting this group. Do i pay at the end or when im cured?

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol priceless mate  :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: mechanic on January 12, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
Bat, The first step is admitting you are powerless over warping and it has made your life unmanageable.

 I'm ready to admit my weakness, so i may grow stronger in time.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: StokesAk on January 12, 2009, 02:58:20 PM
AceCH Warps all the time.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 12, 2009, 03:09:56 PM
I get a kick out of the "plug pullers".  It is obvious when they are doing it, too.  I was behind a Hurri IIc who was hunting some friendly bombers and as I got near, he started warping something fierce.  He dove down and evaded me (I was in Spit9) and eventually came right back around on the bombers.  I had better E and came in on him fast from his low six and **as I fired** with him in front of me he all of a sudden destroyed me (he was the only enemy aircraft within the sec and we were 10k+ alt).  He was pointing at the bombers, he tail was pointing at me.  The only thing that could have happened was he warped BEHIND me and was able to get me with his guns.  I never saw and the buff pilot had said he was warpin like crazy but only once I showed up.

Funny, isnt it.   
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Twizzty on January 12, 2009, 03:14:17 PM

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Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 03:15:32 PM
I think i know who you are talking about.  It is .........  When he warps, i think it maybe something eals going on.  he may be running out of memory space.  that happen to me a while back when i had only %12 memory space left over.  i was warpping everywhere, so i just dump my whole C drive.  It did the trick.   


No, he even got a new computer, he just lives in an area where his internet connection routing is all messed up. I know he has tried everything to fix it . His warp is ridiculous, the worst I have ever seen in this game. So as I said he is unable to fix the problem. If he kept to himself that would be one thing but he is actively running on missions making it hard to have fair play. My point is this game does cost money. When does one guy's intrest out weigh 40 guy's. If you played MW then you know most of us just learned to deal with the warping but when it starts effecting other players game play to a point where you can't even kill his M3 running to the maproom or shoot his bombers down without him warping back into you and taking you down with no damage to him or camping a gv hanger all the while zipping all over the base I see that as not being on the same playing field. Shuffler mentioned about just laughing it off which I have done for the last 2 years but it's gone to a whole new level that has become more and more irritating. Like I said he has learned how to play with a warp which puts the rest of us at a huge disadvantage.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on January 12, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
I get a kick out of the "plug pullers".  It is obvious when they are doing it, too.  I was behind a Hurri IIc who was hunting some friendly bombers and as I got near, he started warping something fierce.  He dove down and evaded me (I was in Spit9) and eventually came right back around on the bombers.  I had better E and came in on him fast from his low six and **as I fired** with him in front of me he all of a sudden destroyed me (he was the only enemy aircraft within the sec and we were 10k+ alt).  He was pointing at the bombers, he tail was pointing at me.  The only thing that could have happened was he warped BEHIND me and was able to get me with his guns.  I never saw and the buff pilot had said he was warpin like crazy but only once I showed up.

Funny, isnt it.   

No such animal.

When you are far away from another object the screen updates slowly. That is why once you see a planes dot it will jump a ways at a time and not move smoothly. As you get closer the updates to the screen start getting quicker. If either person's connection has issues then one or both will start seeing more and more warp.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 03:25:37 PM
I get a kick out of the "plug pullers".  It is obvious when they are doing it, too.  I was behind a Hurri IIc who was hunting some friendly bombers and as I got near, he started warping something fierce.  He dove down and evaded me (I was in Spit9) and eventually came right back around on the bombers.  I had better E and came in on him fast from his low six and **as I fired** with him in front of me he all of a sudden destroyed me (he was the only enemy aircraft within the sec and we were 10k+ alt).  He was pointing at the bombers, he tail was pointing at me.  The only thing that could have happened was he warped BEHIND me and was able to get me with his guns.  I never saw and the buff pilot had said he was warpin like crazy but only once I showed up.

Funny, isnt it.   


 How would you like that to happen everytime you are behind him in level flight, he warps right back into you, happened twice yesterday in a few hours of play. Then he flew over a port directly over me with unhitable lancs at 1000 ft over my wirbel. he then dropped bombs after flying by only for the bombs to kill me. Then he just gets  a Tiger and camps the hanger at a vbase we just captured. I managed to get outta the hanger only to see his tiger on the roof, then in the indestructable, then beside the hanger all the time killing upping tanks. How the heck do you get a shot on a guy that's warpin like this? How the heck can a guy play against people like this?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: iTunes on January 12, 2009, 03:27:41 PM
Are we talking about the steady warpers or the other bunch known as "Warping on demand"? There seems to be more in the second category than the first.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 03:34:49 PM
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This is the culprit  :furious He is as steady as they get.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 12, 2009, 03:58:28 PM

This is the culprit  :furious He is as steady as they get.

if his internet connection can only handle "X" amount of info per second, and you gettuing close, then shooting, it increases the amount of info to double that....then he's gonna warp.

 just learn to kill em.  i fought coda a few times in his warp-on-demand mossie. it took a bit, but i just kept turnign with him, and figured out a pattern to the warps....and shot his but down.

 if they can't help it, they can't help it. .....it's not like he's a hotard, or a ace pilot.........THAT can be helped.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on January 12, 2009, 04:10:28 PM
i too know who big plays talking about ive filmed him sinking cv's 2 boat lengths in front of the cv and sinking it .but never sent it in.i do still have it. but ive learned how to deal him and dont have that much trouble fighting him
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 12, 2009, 04:16:15 PM
i too know who big plays talking about ive filmed him sinking cv's 2 boat lengths in front of the cv and sinking it .but never sent it in.i do still have it. but ive learned how to deal him and dont have that much trouble fighting him

thatr was my point in my post just above yours.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
if his internet connection can only handle "X" amount of info per second, and you gettuing close, then shooting, it increases the amount of info to double that....then he's gonna warp.

 just learn to kill em.  i fought coda a few times in his warp-on-demand mossie. it took a bit, but i just kept turnign with him, and figured out a pattern to the warps....and shot his but down.

 if they can't help it, they can't help it. .....it's not like he's a hotard, or a ace pilot.........THAT can be helped.



doesn't matter nobody should have to change for him, he is the one with the problem., again.... is one guy more imprtant than 40?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 12, 2009, 04:35:06 PM
i too know who big plays talking about ive filmed him sinking cv's 2 boat lengths in front of the cv and sinking it .but never sent it in.i do still have it. but ive learned how to deal him and dont have that much trouble fighting him

I do, how the heck can a tank turret follow his tank around when it leaves and returns in a different place each time. It take too many resources to kill him when it should't and cap if you fought a guy that had an advantage each time you fought him you would be posting about it as well. Just because he's in your squad I don't think you have an objective point of view.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 12, 2009, 05:02:04 PM
I do, how the heck can a tank turret follow his tank around when it leaves and returns in a different place each time. It take too many resources to kill him when it should't and cap if you fought a guy that had an advantage each time you fought him you would be posting about it as well. Just because he's in your squad I don't think you have an objective point of view.

no i wouldn't. i spend so little time ingame anymore, that as soon as i;m in flight, i'm at a disadvantage.  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Larry on January 12, 2009, 05:23:13 PM
cough: Guido77 cough:



The guy is the worst warper in AH. If you say "he has just as much trouble hitting you because of the warping" then you haven't a clue. He has no problem shooting or bombing you when he is warping and most of the time you have to HO him to kill him. Which funny enough is when I never see him warping.


HTC needs to deal with these people by booting them when their connections get jumpy.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on January 12, 2009, 05:52:22 PM

HTC needs to deal with these people by booting them when their connections get jumpy.

In that case Bigplay would have been booted last night. It JUST happens :)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: toonces3 on January 12, 2009, 06:05:45 PM
It's an online game.

A stable connection is fundamental to be able to play the game; both for your own enjoyment, and for those around you.

There should be a certain ping threshold, beyond which the player is disco'd from the game.

Bigplay is completely justified in his complaint.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: mechanic on January 12, 2009, 06:08:06 PM
so what happens to the many people on wireless or some other lower stability connection? their average ping could be 40 and then sometimes they get a spike up to 300 for a few seconds. Why should they be discoed from the arena and possibly then locked out just because the internet farted for a second?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 12, 2009, 06:21:50 PM
In that case Bigplay would have been booted last night. It JUST happens :)


some people just don't get it.
 :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 12, 2009, 06:22:46 PM
so what happens to the many people on wireless or some other lower stability connection? their average ping could be 40 and then sometimes they get a spike up to 300 for a few seconds. Why should they be discoed from the arena and possibly then locked out just because the internet farted for a second?

40?

mine;s almost always in th 79 to 90 range........
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SunBat on January 12, 2009, 06:59:03 PM
I don't know who it is but I hate him.   Plug up your bleeding heart ppl. Let them play battleship.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 12, 2009, 07:33:49 PM
cough: Guido77 cough:



The guy is the worst warper in AH. If you say "he has just as much trouble hitting you because of the warping" then you haven't a clue. He has no problem shooting or bombing you when he is warping and most of the time you have to HO him to kill him. Which funny enough is when I never see him warping.


HTC needs to deal with these people by booting them when their connections get jumpy.

To be fair to Guido, his connection troubles are beyond his control and he does have just as hard of a time with it than those that fight him.  Personally, I think it can be funny...watched him warp once as he was bouncing me from alt to right in front of me for my first and only warp reversal kill.  We both got a chuckle out of it.

But on a serious note, I do believe those that are connecting over 1000ms should be prohibited from entering.  At 1000ms, you have a full second of lag, regardless of connection quality.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WMLute on January 12, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
When you get under 400 yards and the hi-rez shapes kick in, the potential warping you will see has nothing to do with your internet connection as it does the computer setup.

What typically is happening is your ram gets maxed out and it hits your computers swap file, thus causing the small warps.

The HTC servers are what...28.8?  33.6?  Dial up is just fine as long as it is stable.  If you are on a dial up connection and have set up/tweaked your modem correctly (proper modem string, etc) you can fly just fine and can be smooth as silk.  (and better than many high speed connections I might add)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Slash27 on January 12, 2009, 10:10:39 PM
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Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: 1701E on January 12, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
NCC 1701-D

Oooh sorry off by one letter. :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Scherf on January 13, 2009, 07:39:51 AM
I get the dreaded sawtooth delay. Cain't do diddly about it.

Either I gv or quit the game, which is the current situation.

PM if you want an autographed 8x10 of my hairy, to kiss.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 13, 2009, 07:56:51 AM
I don't know who it is but I hate him.   Plug up your bleeding heart ppl. Let them play battleship.

SOOOO.....

you hate someone because they have an internet connection problem?  :rolleyes:

what're ya 3 or something?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WMLute on January 13, 2009, 09:18:09 AM
I get the dreaded sawtooth delay. Cain't do diddly about it.

Either I gv or quit the game, which is the current situation.

PM if you want an autographed 8x10 of my hairy, to kiss.

Sawtooth means you have something else firing off in the background.

Many simple things to do to change that.

A great start would be www.blackviper.com and use their Services recomendations to trim down how many Services you have running at all times.  (think i'm down to a dozen or so)

Another great tool would be HiJackThis (Trend Micro).  When you run HJT it shows everything that is running.  Browser Helper Objects, Registry changes, Terminal Stay Residents, pretty much all of it.  Do not be alarmed when you run HJT and see 50-100 things pull up.  That's actually fairly typicaly for todays systems.  The goal would be to try to get that under, say, 10.  (I have 2 things that run.  Firewall and a VideoCardy thingy).  They best way to decide what stays and what goes is to take the 20min on Goggle and see what they are.  Generally at the end of the entry line in HJT you will have a xxx.dll, xxx.exe etc.  Google that. 

(example from HiJack This:O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe you would google nvscv32.exe to see what that was)


Just remember that you are not deleting any programs or any such thing, you are just preventing "stuff" from running when your computer boots.

(example: RealPlayer (if you have that installed) is constantly running at all times in the background.  If you allow HJT to stop that, RealPlayer will STILL launch when you go to watch a movie etc.  It just isn't running all the time in the background checking for updates and waiting for when you MIGHT want to use it so it can pull up a milisecond faster)

Carefull with HJT.  When in doubt take the 2min to Goggle the item in question.  Also remember less is best, so try to eliminate all the fluff and garbage.  DO NOT JUST CHECK EVERYTHING AND TURN IT ALL OFF!  Some things are import, such as touch pad software for laptops.

Another usefull tool is FSAutoStart (Google it) which has been updated and I forget the new name of it.  With this program you can set it up so it shuts down a ton of garbage running and then launches AcesHigh.  When you exit AH it then restarts everything it has shut down.  (it can also defrag Ram IIRC)  It was designed for Flight Sims.

And of course download 3-4 diff. anit-spyware/malware programs and run all of them.  Most are only good for finding @25% of the garbage out there, so it's best to find 3-4 that all excell in their own niche and cover y'er bases.  (one anti-spyware/malware program just won' cut it)

You do all this and you will not only be amazed at how much better you computer is running, but that nasty sawtooth will be gone.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: pervert on January 13, 2009, 09:27:33 AM
When you get under 400 yards and the hi-rez shapes kick in, the potential warping you will see has nothing to do with your internet connection as it does the computer setup.

What typically is happening is your ram gets maxed out and it hits your computers swap file, thus causing the small warps.

The HTC servers are what...28.8?  33.6?  Dial up is just fine as long as it is stable.  If you are on a dial up connection and have set up/tweaked your modem correctly (proper modem string, etc) you can fly just fine and can be smooth as silk.  (and better than many high speed connections I might add)

Thats absolutely true when I was on dial up I didn't get a disco once and not even a hint of warping. On broadband I used too get discoed all the time, and the odd time I got a little warpiness on the broadband. Although it is also interesting too note my aim with a k4 30mm went too hell on my new broadband even though I didn't see any clear warps on screen, with the dial up I had got rather good at 1 shot crossing kills.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SunBat on January 13, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
SOOOO.....

you hate someone because they have an internet connection problem?  :rolleyes:

what're ya 3 or something?

Yep, a very precocious 3 year old.  I have no problem with him having internet connection problems.  You miss the point fabulously.  The point is that he chooses to hinder other's game experience without regard.  Selfish if you ask me.  You ask a three year old and he would tell you that is selfish.  As a matter of fact - one just has...



Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 13, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
Yep, a very precocious 3 year old.  I have no problem with him having internet connection problems.  You miss the point fabulously.  The point is that he chooses to hinder other's game experience without regard.  Selfish if you ask me.  You ask a three year old and he would tell you that is selfish.  As a matter of fact - one just has...





nope........

if you in on him, and he warps, you have 2 choices. you can continue to fihgt against the warper(and then most probably come here and complain), or you can exit the fight, and go fight someone else.

 sooo..in reality, it's you who've placed yourself in that position. it's you who's being selfish....you want that kill soo badly, that you're going to continue to fight the guy.
 it's not his fault that he;s warping.....nor is it his fault that you choose to continue a course of action. the course of action you choose is on you, and you alone.
 :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: NoBaddy on January 13, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
nope........

if you in on him, and he warps, you have 2 choices. you can continue to fihgt against the warper(and then most probably come here and complain), or you can exit the fight, and go fight someone else.

 sooo..in reality, it's you who've placed yourself in that position. it's you who's being selfish....you want that kill soo badly, that you're going to continue to fight the guy.
 it's not his fault that he;s warping.....nor is it his fault that you choose to continue a course of action. the course of action you choose is on you, and you alone.
 :aok

SRI Cappy....

Wrong! If I exit the fight....he is just gonna fly away and leave me alone? I don't have to worry about him rollin' in to cherry me some time later or trash my field and make it unusable? I don't think so. If he was that considerate, he wouldn't be playing anyway.

Bottomline...knowingly playing on a crappy connection is a selfish act. You are disregarding everyone else playing the game so that you can "get your fun".

AkAk...

Actually, he can control how he connects to the game. He can chose not to connect. Don't misunderstand. I've played with and against him. In RL, I'm sure he is a good enough guy. But, his continued playing on a bad connections is a major disruption for many of the people he plays against. In addition, all of the in arena whining when he is playing is......tiresome.

Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Phil on January 13, 2009, 03:15:11 PM
Being a 99% Midwar player, I certainly know who we talking about !

What I do when I meet him or any other warping player, I wright down a msg for him to read and I disengage. I let him know that I'm not interested in playing/fighting against him due to the bad "zipping" all over the skies....

I respect that its probably not his fault. Every time we crossed, he respected my msg and backed off....
I'm sure he sometimes gets frustrated when players are avoiding the fights !

I do understand where some players know about their problem and take advantage of it to gain the edge during gameplay :furious

Phil / OPP7755
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 13, 2009, 03:20:41 PM
In that case Bigplay would have been booted last night. It JUST happens :)


True but I warped for what ...... 1 encounter with you.Then it stopped after that. I don't warp nonstop all day everyday.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 13, 2009, 03:22:17 PM

some people just don't get it.
 :noid


 GET WHAT????
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 13, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
nope........

if you in on him, and he warps, you have 2 choices. you can continue to fihgt against the warper(and then most probably come here and complain), or you can exit the fight, and go fight someone else.

 sooo..in reality, it's you who've placed yourself in that position. it's you who's being selfish....you want that kill soo badly, that you're going to continue to fight the guy.
 it's not his fault that he;s warping.....nor is it his fault that you choose to continue a course of action. the course of action you choose is on you, and you alone.
 :aok


 Please Cap you making less sence then you normally do..... I have chose not to engage only to have him warp from 2 miles away to 400 behind me in 2 seconds, fair huh? Engaging on squad missions and subjecting us to his presence is selfesh on his behalf. Nobody said it's his fault but if you don't have the capability to perform to the standards of play should you be allowed to ?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on January 13, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
he knows damn well when he does it. most of the time it. happens when he's on the defence.i flew on the knits a long time and on the same vox. and flew with him and told him he was warping and all you get is i know hehehe. at first it was funny .......... he needs to be told to fix the damn thing.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on January 13, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
oh and now thinking about this ......about 6 years ago when i started playing these games .i tried to play fighter ace on a very weak computer .i notice i had very bad lag and was told about the warping.... i quit the game till i was able to buy a better computer.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on January 13, 2009, 04:27:18 PM

True but I warped for what ...... 1 encounter with you.Then it stopped after that. I don't warp nonstop all day everyday.

So how many free warps do you get before your disco'd?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 13, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
oh and now thinking about this ......about 6 years ago when i started playing these games .i tried to play fighter ace on a very weak computer .i notice i had very bad lag and was told about the warping.... i quit the game till i was able to buy a better computer.

 :rofl now all that's left is to get Cap in a headlock.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: bongaroo on January 13, 2009, 04:35:06 PM
So how many free warps do you get before your disco'd?

They give you free warps now?  Why doesn't anyone ever tell me these things! 
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 13, 2009, 04:35:48 PM
So how many free warps do you get before your disco'd?

well lets see.... if I continued to warp that evening I would have logged. If my ping is even in the 100's which it rarely is I don't even bother to play. Shuff please stay with the thread, were talking about someone who warps BAD all the time everytime. If it doesn't bother you then great it doesn't bother you but it does bother the majority of the people who posted in here. Or as long as your fine with it that should be the final word and our opinions aren't valid.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 13, 2009, 08:42:46 PM
:rofl now all that's left is to get Cap in a headlock.
never happen.

BTW,,,,this thread is gonna cost ya ALL of your perkies.  :rofl :rofl


you too lazy!!   :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 13, 2009, 08:43:28 PM
oh and now thinking about this ......about 6 years ago when i started playing these games .i tried to play fighter ace on a very weak computer .i notice i had very bad lag and was told about the warping.... i quit the game till i was able to buy a better computer.

read back a few pages...it was mentioned(i think) that he has tried a new computer. it's his ISP.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 13, 2009, 08:44:06 PM

 Please Cap you making less sence then you normally do.....

you do realize that i take that as a compliment, right? :D :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on January 13, 2009, 08:59:35 PM
cap he lives in naples florida.. you know where that is? you couldnt afford a gallon of gas there and a loaf of bread . YA a lap top with satilite now tell me that took a lot of brains huh knowing he was playing this game when he bought it.i remember when he got it
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on January 13, 2009, 09:18:21 PM
I am sticking with the thread.... someone who warps alot. Some said a person should get booted.... I asked how many warps till they are booted. Still waiting on a answer. It's not as easy as some think.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 13, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
cap he lives in naples florida.. you know where that is? you couldnt afford a gallon of gas there and a loaf of bread . YA a lap top with satilite now tell me that took a lot of brains huh knowing he was playing this game when he bought it.i remember when he got it

DUNNO WHERE NAPLES is, don't particularily care. i do know i can afford gas and bread there.

dunno if he's still playin on tht sme laptop you mentioned or not......... doesn;t matter.........fact is, either engage n kill him, or don't.

i've fought warpers. i've lost to em, and i've kicked their arses.........
this is now too many pages of this crap.

 and stop singling out my posts......what're you an ankle humper?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Slash27 on January 13, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
Oooh sorry off by one letter. :D

oh yeah :D

"She went before her time"
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Chalenge on January 14, 2009, 02:03:39 AM
At this time I would like nominate this thread for the hall of fame. Its one of the greatest. I found great laughs on every page. I may even wallpaper my bathroom with it.  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: mcboi on January 14, 2009, 06:56:25 AM
i have to admit ive been accused of being a "warper" so i did some research on my comp and once i shut down everything that vista was running, changed to "classic" windows theme, and deleted my girlfriend's sons iTunes i found the comp ran much better. although it still happens occasionally it isnt nearly as bad & now im waiting to buy a video card. any suggestions for under $150?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Grind on January 14, 2009, 07:33:19 AM
Try these links: 

www.speedguide.net  (TCP/IP analyzer and the TCP/IP Optimizer)

http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/download.htm   (upgrade to FSAutostart, works on Vista and XP.  Im running about 13 background services in XP).

www.speedtest.net
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on January 14, 2009, 03:27:53 PM
DUNNO WHERE NAPLES is, don't particularily care. i do know i can afford gas and bread there.

dunno if he's still playin on tht sme laptop you mentioned or not......... doesn;t matter.........fact is, either engage n kill him, or don't.

i've fought warpers. i've lost to em, and i've kicked their tomatos.........
this is now too many pages of this crap.

 and stop singling out my posts......what're you an ankle humper?

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl I shouldn't have to make that choice, I really shouldn't have to see it either everytime he's on. Nobody should. You say you fight warpers well Guido is the warp king. I have fought people that have mini warps but not the warpin that Guido does. He should change his name to Zorro because he makes large Z's across the sky. :rolleyes: You say to just engage him and kill him, this coming from a guy who's self admittedly sucks.

 It is not easy to kill him, in fact next time your both on ask him to DA you. I'll bet anything you wont even ping him. If Larry says he's a tuff kill then that should be enuff proof that he is . Larry is one of the better sticks that fly MW and he has a hard time with Guido. As far as losing all my perkies is of no matter to me, I very rarely use them, GV mode only. Why would I lose my perkies anyway???? are we doing something wrong by calling out the games biggest warper and the fact that were tired of it.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on January 14, 2009, 03:41:11 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl I shouldn't have to make that choice, I really shouldn't have to see it either everytime he's on. Nobody should. You say you fight warpers well Guido is the warp king. I have fought people that have mini warps but not the warpin that Guido does. He should change his name to Zorro because he makes large Z's across the sky. :rolleyes: You say to just engage him and kill him, this coming from a guy who's self admittedly sucks.

 It is not easy to kill him, in fact next time your both on ask him to DA you. I'll bet anything you wont even ping him. If Larry says he's a tuff kill then that should be enuff proof that he is . Larry is one of the better sticks that fly MW and he has a hard time with Guido. As far as losing all my perkies is of no matter to me, I very rarely use them, GV mode only. Why would I lose my perkies anyway???? are we doing something wrong by calling out the games biggest warper and the fact that were tired of it.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

you've obviously missed the other thread.......hang on a sec.....

here ya go snaglepus(and i say that in all friendlieness  :D)
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256234.0.html

that's what i was referencing when i mentioned losing your perks. i was trying to joke.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Scherf on January 17, 2009, 08:27:52 PM
Thanks Lute


Sawtooth means you have something else firing off in the background.

Many simple things to do to change that.

A great start would be www.blackviper.com and use their Services recomendations to trim down how many Services you have running at all times.  (think i'm down to a dozen or so)

Another great tool would be HiJackThis (Trend Micro).  When you run HJT it shows everything that is running.  Browser Helper Objects, Registry changes, Terminal Stay Residents, pretty much all of it.  Do not be alarmed when you run HJT and see 50-100 things pull up.  That's actually fairly typicaly for todays systems.  The goal would be to try to get that under, say, 10.  (I have 2 things that run.  Firewall and a VideoCardy thingy).  They best way to decide what stays and what goes is to take the 20min on Goggle and see what they are.  Generally at the end of the entry line in HJT you will have a xxx.dll, xxx.exe etc.  Google that. 

(example from HiJack This:O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe you would google nvscv32.exe to see what that was)


Just remember that you are not deleting any programs or any such thing, you are just preventing "stuff" from running when your computer boots.

(example: RealPlayer (if you have that installed) is constantly running at all times in the background.  If you allow HJT to stop that, RealPlayer will STILL launch when you go to watch a movie etc.  It just isn't running all the time in the background checking for updates and waiting for when you MIGHT want to use it so it can pull up a milisecond faster)

Carefull with HJT.  When in doubt take the 2min to Goggle the item in question.  Also remember less is best, so try to eliminate all the fluff and garbage.  DO NOT JUST CHECK EVERYTHING AND TURN IT ALL OFF!  Some things are import, such as touch pad software for laptops.

Another usefull tool is FSAutoStart (Google it) which has been updated and I forget the new name of it.  With this program you can set it up so it shuts down a ton of garbage running and then launches AcesHigh.  When you exit AH it then restarts everything it has shut down.  (it can also defrag Ram IIRC)  It was designed for Flight Sims.

And of course download 3-4 diff. anit-spyware/malware programs and run all of them.  Most are only good for finding @25% of the garbage out there, so it's best to find 3-4 that all excell in their own niche and cover y'er bases.  (one anti-spyware/malware program just won' cut it)

You do all this and you will not only be amazed at how much better you computer is running, but that nasty sawtooth will be gone.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: AAJagerX on January 18, 2009, 01:43:13 AM
New known warper (now reported warper) is Jabrwock.  Multiple people reported him tonight.  I saw it first hand, as he was stable until someone got on his 6.  Then it was a warping nightmare.  He'd warp 2 to 3 times and pull onto the 6 of whoever was behind him.  I was flying in formation with a squaddie when we saw this BS hapen. 

I, along with 2 people that saw it sent an email to Skuzzy about this junk.

Bring back the integrity to this game!
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Yeager on January 18, 2009, 02:50:05 AM
I used to think the server would force a disco if you had an unplayable connection.  Guess they need the business......
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Borsuk on January 18, 2009, 05:35:06 PM
When i first read this thread I thought BP was refering to me as I used to have a serious warping problem, which did not help me in the slightest I may add, as Bigplay and Lazydog and the rest of the HG's seemed to be able to kill me on a regular basis. Seemed every time I fired the target jumped as I pulled the trigger, just the same as I probably appeared to the con. The problem turned out to be that some wassak cut a couple of submarine cables in the Med which stuffed the internet routes in the middle east for the best part of a year. It wasn't comp related as my laptop was bought specifically for playing AH and at the time was one of the highest specced laptops you could buy. I first played this game while assigned to my companies Houston office (Houston US not Scotland  :D) and like most of the longtimers in the game I became hooked as bad as a crack head and bought the new laptop purely because of AH, my existing one was fine for work but no good for gaming.
I knew I was frustrating other guys, hell I was frustrating myself but excluding monthly internet connection which in Dubai you pay through the nose for and my AH subscription, I had invested nearly 3 grand in hardware just to play an online game and through no fault of my own was warping faster than the enterprise on smack. So what do I do, do I stop playing altogether, cold turkey and pretend my laptop and flight system aren't laughing behind my back or do I play. Well call me a selfish B'stard I played, I did try to reduce my impact on other people by mostly GVing, I think the HG's will confirm that for most of 2007 I mostly GV'd, a goon was about all I could fly though landing the danged thing was out of the question. When you go from 1000 feet of alt to -1000 instantaneously it tends to to be pretty fatal. 2008 got better as they finally repaired the submarine cables but even then 250 was about the best ping count I got, it used to be 40 when I was in Houston. Hitec advertise this game as playable anywhere "Fight against hundreds of real players from around the world" we have no control over how our puters link to the servers, the minimum hops mine did in the ME was 10 hops Dubai to Tx, on a bad day was 23, some days was a combination.

It is easy to say people with bad connections shouldn't play but if you have spent a wad of money just to play 1 game on the internet, bearing in mind how many of you have spent money on your puters upgrading them with new video cards, RAM, TrackIR, flight systems, multi screens etc purely for gaming and found that it is not your hardware that is the problem but the internet itself,  are you going to say "Sorry chaps my connection is always bad, I'm not going to play any more". Maybe some one more altruistic than myself like Saint Peter might manage to do so but I don't see most guys in a similar situation to mine doing so. I know Lazydog stopped playing till he got a better puter but if he had still had problems afterwards due to his ISP and couldn't change ISP's; there is only one in Dubai, would he still stop playing until he had a choice. If the answer is yes LD then not only are you a better player than me then your a better man.

The summary is I will play as long as I can stand the hassle that warping causes me, or when my squadies tell me to Poff. not anyone else, a partial fix is better than none at all but then again I am a selfish B'stard.

<S> Borsuk












Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: oakranger on January 18, 2009, 06:58:15 PM
i have to admit ive been accused of being a "warper" so i did some research on my comp and once i shut down everything that vista was running, changed to "classic" windows theme, and deleted my girlfriend's sons iTunes i found the comp ran much better. although it still happens occasionally it isnt nearly as bad & now im waiting to buy a video card. any suggestions for under $150?
iTunes take up more than half of your computer space.  My wife has iTunes on my old computer.  with in a month, she had two seasons of "Friends", 36 songs, and about a dozen "Lost" episode.  It caused me to warp so bad that not only was i warping, but eveone around me warp.  what a freaking nightmare. 
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WMLute on January 19, 2009, 08:29:33 AM
iTunes take up more than half of your computer space.  My wife has iTunes on my old computer.  with in a month, she had two seasons of "Friends", 36 songs, and about a dozen "Lost" episode.  It caused me to warp so bad that not only was i warping, but eveone around me warp.  what a freaking nightmare. 

Just setup iTunes so it is not running alll the time.  THAT is what will make you warp, not all the content you have d/l'd.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on January 19, 2009, 08:33:04 AM
If your drive is getting full it might cause some problems though. Easy fix add another drive and keep your itune files there.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: oakranger on January 19, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
Just setup iTunes so it is not running alll the time.  THAT is what will make you warp, not all the content you have d/l'd.

i did, it still caused me to warp.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WMLute on January 19, 2009, 11:06:56 AM
i did, it still caused me to warp.

If it isn't running, it won't cause you to warp.

Just how did you set it up so it wasn't running?

Did you turn off the Service?

Run a program such as HiJackThis to make SURE it isn't running?

You can't blame a program that isn't running on warping, as that makes zero sense.  If it isn't running it would have zero impact on your system (except as was allready posted re: HD space)  It has to be running and doing something to cause your connection to be unstable.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: 19kilo10(ironnite) on February 08, 2009, 10:03:08 AM
LTArazor warps everytime I get on his tail. Warped behind me an killed me. How do you set ur system to do this as I want to jump on the bandwagon.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: avionix on February 08, 2009, 10:12:52 AM
First time anyone has told me that I warped.  I happened to dump all flaps and still had ord hanging in fight you are mentioning.  Instead of sending nasty PM and posting here on BBS why not ask me nicely.  As I said, no one has ever mentioned that to me before.  And for the record, I am NOT one of the "cable yankers."
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 08, 2009, 11:45:12 AM
I know theres been quite a bit written about warpers in this game but one in particular really needs to either address the issue or move on. I for one have first hand knowledge on how warping effects the guy who is doing the warping. For about 3-4 months each time I logged into the game I was warping bad. It drove me crazy and everybody else as well. I knew it had to be something  other than my computer's capability because I didn't warp up till then. It took a lot of time and effort to finally figure out why I was warping and on the verge of quiting the game I resolved the issue. I still warp a bit when I log on the game but it stops within the first 5 minutes. I try and avoid any contact until I know the warping has stopped, unfortunately sometimes I can't avoid contact.

However there is a guy in MW who has been warping for 1-2 years now. He is a very nice guy but his trouble is his internet connection which cannot (by his own addmission) be fixed unless he moves to another area. He has warped into me while on his six now multiple times always killing me. He has magically warped from 1500 out to within 400 and shot me, he has no trouble bombing and killing you while bombing but his bombers are all but impossible to hit. When he's in a tank he has no trouble hitting you while his tank is warping so bad you can't get a bead on him. I seen him on the roof of a VH and then 100 feet to the right then 200 feet to the left. In my opinion he has warped so long and he is so use to warping that he now has an advantage over the people who fight him. I think that if a guy knows he warps and cannot get it fixed in a reasonable time he should leave the game. I don't think it's fair to the rest of the community that he just continues to play. I am sure everybody who plays MW knows who I'm talking  about. The squad he plays in is a base taking squad and when he runs and m3 he is unhitable resulting in a base capture that shouldn't have been.+



playing as rook against guido is frustrating for sure as not now i see he's warps get him killed alot more than he wins. yes its a bogger trying to kill him when he warps i pull off look for another target not worth the effort. just imagine how mad he gets a connection.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: 19kilo10(ironnite) on February 08, 2009, 11:49:17 AM
First time anyone has told me that I warped.  I happened to dump all flaps and still had ord hanging in fight you are mentioning.  Instead of sending nasty PM and posting here on BBS why not ask me nicely.  As I said, no one has ever mentioned that to me before.  And for the record, I am NOT one of the "cable yankers."
Iv seen flaps and that werent flaps......that was pure star trek warp. all Im askin for is equality....so if anyone knows how too set their system to warp when an enemy get on ur tail....please share
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 08, 2009, 11:51:24 AM
he knows damn well when he does it. most of the time it. happens when he's on the defence.i flew on the knits a long time and on the same vox. and flew with him and told him he was warping and all you get is i know hehehe. at first it was funny .......... he needs to be told to fix the damn thing.


guy never laughs when u tell him hes warping. and if he said heheheh   please send film to aces high. for you to say he said heheh is same as saying he said he cheating. that's wrong. this guy has hard time playing game he loves. and for you to say he said hehehe when rest of us have talked to him and his reply always same. Sorry but it furstates me too.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: weazely on February 08, 2009, 11:55:35 AM
Iv seen flaps and that werent flaps......that was pure star trek warp. all Im askin for is equality....so if anyone knows how too set their system to warp when an enemy get on ur tail....please share


You sir have made me laugh.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Rising41 on February 08, 2009, 01:41:27 PM
Haven't read every post. So if it's been said I apologise but. As mentioned in here. A parked gv camping a spawn warping? Thats not warp but an exploit of some sort. Legit warp is packet loss or really bad internet conection causing a moving object to warp to get in sync w/the other players or the game server. A stationary object should cause zero warp once parked. At most, the GV's firing would be affected. (IE. you die, then see the round coming.)

Back in the day I used to play Mech Warrior 3. An old exploit then was hitting the esc key to exit the game, leaving the window open till you manuvered to where you wanted. then closing it again. causing huge jumps in location. (Others would see you running in place and couldn't kill you.) I think there is something close to this being used in AH. As it is very rare too see someone warp once they have a gun solution on your 6. But boy it's really bad if the situation is reversed.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 08, 2009, 06:10:27 PM
you have to ignore bigplay, he always speaking crap about others with no understanding of the game. IN mid war complaining about everyone. trys to say guys like me score ho and our bombing % is .500% 1/2 hit per bomb and he thinks this is score ho'ing. i talked to guido lazydog and bigplay 's statements nevver happen exactly what i thought happened. they make up things with no facts.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: avionix on February 08, 2009, 06:34:20 PM
Iv seen flaps and that werent flaps......that was pure star trek warp. all Im askin for is equality....so if anyone knows how too set their system to warp when an enemy get on ur tail....please share

What is funny is you think people do this on purpose.  I can't even install a video card without help.  Spoke with some squaddies that were flying at the same time as when I was suposed to have warped.  They never saw me warping.  It can happen on both ends, so you may want to check your end as well.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on February 08, 2009, 09:06:10 PM
now there mr .rod or who ever you are .i was there tonight when you i assume your rswhatever you had it out with bigplay and i did'nt say a word. and when this took place  is when i 1st started flying midwar. there was no playmates there i flew knights all the time i dont remember you being there unless under a different name guido was flying with the steel rivits and i flew with him all the time .and i have no reason to lie i dont make up storys oh by the way dont really care what you think so bug off .and as for the CV in lw there was a couple other guys that seen this happen
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WWhiskey on February 08, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
well lets see.... if I continued to warp that evening I would have logged. If my ping is even in the 100's which it rarely is I don't even bother to play. Shuff please stay with the thread, were talking about someone who warps BAD all the time everytime. If it doesn't bother you then great it doesn't bother you but it does bother the majority of the people who posted in here. Or as long as your fine with it that should be the final word and our opinions aren't valid.


 put yourself in his position, you own or have a lease where you live, cant move, cant get your service fixed,
would you be embarrassed about warping?  he is
would you go out of your way to let people know than you can't help it? he does
would you disengage when your opponent asks you to? he does
would you spend hundreds if not thosands of $ trying to fix the problem? he has
would you stop playing the game just because someone else asked you to? he has
would you drive gv's instead of flying so as to help alleviate the problem ? he has
 i would say he has more respect and courtesy for other players than anyone else in midwar!
 :salute Guido77 :salute

now would you give the game up completely even tho you have paid for it and given it so much of your time?
 







how would you prove that? by changing your name so know one would know it was you?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WWhiskey on February 08, 2009, 10:29:47 PM
when i 1st started flying midwar. there was no playmates there
i flew knights all the time


you might want to go and check the roster!
 from the begining  Playmates were there! :salute
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Anaxogoras on February 09, 2009, 01:48:37 AM
Add "hatchet" to the list of warpers.  This guy was warping all over the place tonight, was told about it, and just continued to cause grief.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 09, 2009, 02:12:49 AM
now there mr .rod or who ever you are .i was there tonight when you i assume your rswhatever you had it out with bigplay and i did'nt say a word. and when this took place  is when i 1st started flying midwar. there was no playmates there i flew knights all the time i dont remember you being there unless under a different name guido was flying with the steel rivits and i flew with him all the time .and i have no reason to lie i dont make up storys oh by the way dont really care what you think so bug off .and as for the CV in lw there was a couple other guys that seen this happen
like i said Zack  or whatever your new name is  this tod lazydog. I saifd for you to say when u confronted him he said hehehe like he was doing on purpose either have prove or shut up.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Chalenge on February 09, 2009, 02:28:52 AM
Pure comedy.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 09, 2009, 05:08:47 AM
Bigplay and you are starting to sound like ghost66. you can't go much lower than that.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 08:04:29 AM
now there mr .rod or who ever you are .i was there tonight when you i assume your rswhatever you had it out with bigplay and i did'nt say a word. and when this took place  is when i 1st started flying midwar. there was no playmates there i flew knights all the time i dont remember you being there unless under a different name guido was flying with the steel rivits and i flew with him all the time .and i have no reason to lie i dont make up storys oh by the way dont really care what you think so bug off .and as for the CV in lw there was a couple other guys that seen this happen

dude........you haven't flown mw this tour yet..........unless you've been using shade accounts?
 which leads me to the question? are you zach in mw right now? that's what someone else told me yesterday.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 08:06:36 AM


 put yourself in his position, you own or have a lease where you live, cant move, cant get your service fixed,
would you be embarrassed about warping?  he is
would you go out of your way to let people know than you can't help it? he does
would you disengage when your opponent asks you to? he does
would you spend hundreds if not thosands of $ trying to fix the problem? he has
would you stop playing the game just because someone else asked you to? he has
would you drive gv's instead of flying so as to help alleviate the problem ? he has
 i would say he has more respect and courtesy for other players than anyone else in midwar!
 :salute Guido77 :salute

now would you give the game up completely even tho you have paid for it and given it so much of your time?
 







how would you prove that? by changing your name so know one would know it was you?


i think i tried saying these things a few pages ago.....but they seem to fall on deaf ears. the only reason i quoted ya this time, is because it needs to be seen again.

 guido does not think it's funny, nor does it help him, nor does he try to do it. if any of you think he does, then come to knights, and fly WITH him, rather than against him, and you'll see what we mean.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Slate on February 09, 2009, 09:07:24 AM
   Guido77's stats are not that impressive. If someone was controlling the warp to increase thier score you would think he'd be ranked higher. Everyone has encountered the warping player but it is the rarity. Seems most likely when there is a high concentration of players in one area. Frustrating but move on.  :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lowZX14 on February 09, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
Yessssssssssssssssiiiiiiiiirr rrrrrrrr, this is now getting good.   :lol

As for Guido, I will say that I have heard him say that he can't do anything about it.  I know it sucks, but the guy's kinda stuck.  I have never heard him laughing about it like it was funny and that he did it on purpose.  I know it's not fun chasing him around while he's flashing all over the place.  I do know that in the past couple of months that I have seen him on while I was on, he only warped about 25% of the time, the rest was just like everyone else.  I do feel sorry for the guy not being able to get a good connection where he lives.  I do agree with Whiskey a little bit.  I have countless times seen the guy say that he was going to drive a GV or fly a goon or something so that he doesn't get into fights and warp around.  He's always willing to help you out with something when you ask it as well. 
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Shuffler on February 09, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
Hi my name is bat and i've been binge warping on and off for the last 4-5 years. I don't warp all the time, I dont warp infront of my Squad if possible, but when i do it's uncontrolable and dreadfully painfull for those around me to see.  I thought I could handle it, I thought it wouldnt damage my score or friendships. Well it took a while but I'm ready to face my deamons. I'm an occasional binge warper and it is ruining my life. Thanks for starting this group. Do i pay at the end or when im cured?


Just lol.... good one :)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
Yessssssssssssssssiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrr, this is now getting good.   :lol

As for Guido, I will say that I have heard him say that he can't do anything about it.  I know it sucks, but the guy's kinda stuck.  I have never heard him laughing about it like it was funny and that he did it on purpose.  I know it's not fun chasing him around while he's flashing all over the place.  I do know that in the past couple of months that I have seen him on while I was on, he only warped about 25% of the time, the rest was just like everyone else.  I do feel sorry for the guy not being able to get a good connection where he lives.  I do agree with Whiskey a little bit.  I have countless times seen the guy say that he was going to drive a GV or fly a goon or something so that he doesn't get into fights and warp around.  He's always willing to help you out with something when you ask it as well. 

now that you mention it, i haven't seen him on on the rare occasion i get on either. he has to be one of the nicest guys in the arena though.,.......
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: stickpig on February 09, 2009, 11:11:43 AM
dude........you haven't flown mw this tour yet..........unless you've been using shade accounts?
 which leads me to the question? are you zach in mw right now? that's what someone else told me yesterday.

I would have to say no...... Accent is different
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 11:15:09 AM
I would have to say no...... Accent is different

that's why i was asking......he wasn't a knight......so i never heard his voice. i ask first.....accuse second.  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: stickpig on February 09, 2009, 11:15:38 AM


you might want to go and check the roster!
 from the begining  Playmates were there! :salute


Depends on what you call the beginning.....

Never saw "Playmates" in MW untill the last 1/2 dozen tours. At least not in force
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 09, 2009, 11:16:44 AM
you have to ignore bigplay, he always speaking crap about others with no understanding of the game. IN mid war complaining about everyone. trys to say guys like me score ho and our bombing % is .500% 1/2 hit per bomb and he thinks this is score ho'ing. i talked to guido lazydog and bigplay 's statements nevver happen exactly what i thought happened. they make up things with no facts.

 

Oh RS59 your just mad cause I called you a score dweeb, ranting about how your number 1 in MW and can't figure out how that is. The fact is nobody becomes number 1 without trying especially in MW. Here the facts if you want them...... Fighter score 26, 7 kills. Then flies everything in attack mode. I have flown against you and your not a 26 ranked fighter pilot. Play how you want but coming on and stating that you don't understand how you got there is a joke. You self admittedly said you know the guys at HT  so I would imagine that you understand how obtaining #1 works. Then you call me a moron , idiot and a few other names then use your magic HT powers to cause a screen message telling me not to insult other players (YOU). The worst I called you was a fool, oh yeh....... a score dweeb.

I voice my opinion that's all, I never went out of my way to call you out as being the score monkey you are . I just responded to you delusional statement. As soon as your statement showed up on the text buffer I heard a lot of people on channel say that's a load of bull. Hey play how you want it doesn't matter to me but call a spade a spade and stop taking your past school yard memories about how you always got picked last in kick ball  and now have taken some sort of inferiority complex to the game. I would have said nothing about you if it wasn't for your denial on all channel. As far as complaining about other things in relation to the game, I started this post and many have responded in the same way I have. How many players don't care how the game is being played ? Not many. The boards are full of it. Heck there are posts from people that have been playing for years that just have had enough of the style of play that's being done and are leaving the game. Your style is of no help either. I have had you PM me from the other side telling me you were going to drop all the hangers at a certain base so we could take it. Now is that the kind of game play a so called buddy of HT does? Singling me out as a constant complainer is rather personal. There are plenty in here that don't appreciate the game play that's happening as of late. Shuffler and AkAk are very vocal on open channel about what is going on. The last time I checked I lived in America. There still is free speech here isn't there, or do you want to take that away?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: stickpig on February 09, 2009, 11:17:31 AM
that's why i was asking......he wasn't a knight......so i never heard his voice. i ask first.....accuse second.  :D

I think he was always a Knight for the longest. Was shocked one day to see him as a Rook.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 11:52:23 AM
I think he was always a Knight for the longest. Was shocked one day to see him as a Rook.

lazy?

ya, him and a few other HG went rook. that caused a lot of strife within the squad. some got mad that some of us didn't come over with them. i was one that didn't, not from loyality to a chess piece, but because i had already been flying for quite some time with another squad. from these guys i got the teamwork that  had in the guns when i first joined them. i got/get help from each and every member of my current squad(satans playmates). they really are a great bunch of guys. i enjoy flying with them. if what they're doing doesn't float my boat, i go do my own thing, and no one yells, berates, or gets mad about it, like happened on occasion in the other squad. that's why i joined these guys. the way they are is why i fly with them. i don't have anythig against anyone in the other squad...it was just my time to move on i think.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on February 09, 2009, 12:05:32 PM
zack is my ingame name everyone in the arena knows that .i was'nt trying to hide anything no reason to. and your not reading my post right. CAP you know when the HG switch to MW and at that time ok maybe there was a few playmates but the fact is im talking when i flew on the knight side and we we're into the base taking thing and guido was with the steel rivits and he was on channel many times.ok time has since then and he realizes that is bothersome to some players fine i really dont care and i have'nt said to much about since the beginning of this trend was first started .the only reason i wrote in here again was because of rs49 had said and i don't even care about that what i do care about is that he wrote it in here .i feel if he has a problem with me he should of pm' me
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 09, 2009, 12:17:37 PM
And so ends another thrilling episode of "Days of our Mid-War Arena".  Will Guido finally get a decent connection?  Will Rod log in as Voss?  Will Lazy change his name yet again?  Be sure to turn in next week!


ack-ack
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 12:22:43 PM
And so ends another thrilling episode of "Days of our Mid-War Arena".  Will Guido finally get a decent connection?  Will Rod log in as Voss?  Will Lazy change his name yet again?  Be sure to turn in next week!


ack-ack
crap!! we hafta wait a whole week?!
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
zack is my ingame name everyone in the arena knows that .i was'nt trying to hide anything no reason to. and your not reading my post right. CAP you know when the HG switch to MW and at that time ok maybe there was a few playmates but the fact is im talking when i flew on the knight side and we we're into the base taking thing and guido was with the steel rivits and he was on channel many times.ok time has since then and he realizes that is bothersome to some players fine i really dont care and i have'nt said to much about since the beginning of this trend was first started .the only reason i wrote in here again was because of rs49 had said and i don't even care about that what i do care about is that he wrote it in here .i feel if he has a problem with me he should of pm' me

so that was you then? zach i mean?

why'd ya leave the HG?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 09, 2009, 12:31:01 PM
lazy?

ya, him and a few other HG went rook. that caused a lot of strife within the squad. some got mad that some of us didn't come over with them. i was one that didn't, not from loyality to a chess piece, but because i had already been flying for quite some time with another squad. from these guys i got the teamwork that  had in the guns when i first joined them. i got/get help from each and every member of my current squad(satans playmates). they really are a great bunch of guys. i enjoy flying with them. if what they're doing doesn't float my boat, i go do my own thing, and no one yells, berates, or gets mad about it, like happened on occasion in the other squad. that's why i joined these guys. the way they are is why i fly with them. i don't have anythig against anyone in the other squad...it was just my time to move on i think.



First of all Cap were not just flying on the Rooks side, we actually follow around the Playmates. If the playmates are done with the rooks then we go bish. The problem with all the guys leaving is that you and them  were playing with the Playmates exclusively while the rest of the squad was doing their thing. We did base takes in EW to promote fights, not to win the map. You never really got the concept about that and preferred the warm fuzzy feeling of the awards ceremony that the playmates have after every base take and map reset. Lips, Lazy and myself did not want to play with the kind of odds that the knits were putting on other countries. Logging on in the morning and seeing 15 knits taking undefended bases and virtually (because of lopsided countries) taking all fighting tools away from said countries isn't mine nor their cups of tea.

It's fine about people moving on and playing how they want but you knew lips was a no nonsense Co. Some guys left because we moved out of EW and they didn't like MW. Other people left like you left because they like that big squad feel, safe and cozy. It wasn't like our squad had any awesome skills and were dominating everyone. We were just doing what we always did and that was to have fun. I find the squad to be better now . As far as strife goes I again was voicing my opinion as was lazy and Lips about some of your guys  game play. I am glad your happy and so are the remaining Hired Guns. Unfortunately for some of the guys that left their lack of so called cartoon skills have been exposed. I don't know about you cause I don't run into you often but none of our old squaddies have improved an once since leaving. The only thing that I have seen improve is their ranks.
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Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on February 09, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
and lazydog deleted the game from computer
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 12:48:49 PM


First of all Cap were not just flying on the Rooks side, we actually follow around the Playmates. If the playmates are done with the rooks then we go bish. The problem with all the guys leaving is that you and them  were playing with the Playmates exclusively while the rest of the squad was doing their thing. We did base takes in EW to promote fights, not to win the map. You never really got the concept about that and preferred the warm fuzzy feeling of the awards ceremony that the playmates have after every base take and map reset. Lips, Lazy and myself did not want to play with the kind of odds that the knits were putting on other countries. Logging on in the morning and seeing 15 knits taking undefended bases and virtually (because of lopsided countries) taking all fighting tools away from said countries isn't mine nor their cups of tea.

It's fine about people moving on and playing how they want but you knew lips was a no nonsense Co. Some guys left because we moved out of EW and they didn't like MW. Other people left like you left because they like that big squad feel, safe and cozy. It wasn't like our squad had any awesome skills and were dominating everyone. We were just doing what we always did and that was to have fun. I find the squad to be better now . As far as strife goes I again was voicing my opinion as was lazy and Lips about some of your guys  game play. I am glad your happy and so are the remaining Hired Guns. Unfortunately for some of the guys that left their lack of so called cartoon skills have been exposed. I don't know about you cause I don't run into you often but none of our old squaddies have improved an once since leaving. The only thing that I have seen improve is their ranks.
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read a few posts up dude. i'm not always with them. i fly where i find a fight. i don't need to have anyone near me to fight.
 when we're doing base takes, it is to promote fights. you should've been on last night(i logged around 1230 estearn), and heard my squadmates trying to decide where to go to find a fight.
 saturday night(my first time on in around a month) i upped at a base, found a hotard, and went somewhere else to fight. found some good ones too. left that area to go support my squaddies, till i saw another base in trouble, then went there to try n defend(and fight).

 i don't remember too much strife within the squad when we moved from ew to mw, but it was probably there. it was probably nowhere near the strife caused by switching to rook though.

 you said you guys follow the playmates around, but i thought i saw you flying knight this past weekend?

 knights being on in the AM takinog bases is the same as the rooks or bish doing that in the little hgours of the night...when everyone else logs off.

i(and i think others) were playing with the playmates more than our own squad, because there was never anything going on. there was(at that tinme anyway) no base attacks(to promote a fight), no nothing. just log on and fly, with the Hg attached to ya. the playmates are very good at provoking a fight.

 as for improvement? my gv skills have improved ever so slightly. my air to air skills? probably the same, possibly a bit worse, as i;ve been flying the p38 o deth almost exclusively for the last 2 or 3 tours....and will continue to do so till i can fight anything in the arenas with confidence in her. i never hid behind you guys, and i don't do that with the playmates now. i get into low alt scraps......just had one HELLUVA good fight against snaphook yesterday, when i found him above me. i almost got him too. i've gotten myself into multiple 2 and 3-1's me being the one.......

 i always get decent fighter advice from mace, rodent, slpknot, and others in my squad too...something that i hadn't gotten from any of the HG in over a year.

 anyway....<<S>>
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 09, 2009, 01:17:26 PM
You need to read your own post. The reason we left the knits was their numbers and style of play, sure the rooks and bish take bases but having flown with them they don't have 7 sets of lancs EVER at their disposal, nor do they drop everything at all bases around them. I was on last night and I saw knits taking bases and deadlocked in a few 15 was one.It was fun because the numbers were about even but here's the difference Cap. None of the other countries care that much about the map as to drop every vh that has a spawn into the base they want to keep along with the ords , radar and everything else that's needed to fight. All the other countries just do their own thing. Like sinking cv's when there's nobody even trying to take the base and ruining a good cv battle is a text book knit move. I think more than not people just get tired of this style of play, especially when their out numbered. It's the same old same old day after day. Of course when they don't have the numbers then the knit side is very quite. Always waiting for a base to flash so they can spring into action. Isn't this game about fighting?
Or is it about taking the map? We also flew on the Knit side briefly because a huge squad from lw came over and were attacking them only. We had no fights on our side. If I were like the knits I would have taken the opportunity to hit the knits while they were down, but that would have been rather boring for me.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 01:19:13 PM
and lazydog deleted the game from computer

why dude? you didn't need to really........i think you could've just changed your name with less hassle?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SlapShot on February 09, 2009, 01:30:19 PM
Everyone has encountered the warping player but it is the rarity.

Not if you flying around Guido ... I feel sorry for the poor guy, but on the other hand, I have found myself exasperated when encountering him and am unable to get a bead on him while he trashes a field.

What most don't understand is that, yes he sees us warping too so it's hard for him to fight ... but ground objects DON'T move so if he is warping, he can still do damage to ground objects easily and most of the time, without consequence.

If I am in the MW and see someone warping around like a dragonfly, I know it's him, and I just go somewhere else.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 01:37:58 PM
You need to read your own post. The reason we left the knits was their numbers and style of play, sure the rooks and bish take bases but having flown with them they don't have 7 sets of lancs EVER at their disposal, nor do they drop everything at all bases around them. I was on last night and I saw knits taking bases and deadlocked in a few 15 was one.It was fun because the numbers were about even but here's the difference Cap. None of the other countries care that much about the map as to drop every vh that has a spawn into the base they want to keep along with the ords , radar and everything else that's needed to fight. All the other countries just do their own thing. Like sinking cv's when there's nobody even trying to take the base and ruining a good cv battle is a text book knit move. I think more than not people just get tired of this style of play, especially when their out numbered. It's the same old same old day after day. Of course when they don't have the numbers then the knit side is very quite. Always waiting for a base to flash so they can spring into action. Isn't this game about fighting?
Or is it about taking the map? We also flew on the Knit side briefly because a huge squad from lw came over and were attacking them only. We had no fights on our side. If I were like the knits I would have taken the opportunity to hit the knits while they were down, but that would have been rather boring for me.
actually, they do....all countries fight the same. there's been other threads concerning that.

 i think our squad was spread all over the place last night. i spent most of my time at V64 defending. there were some fun fights there once the rook dudes came down. as for 7 sets of lancs? i saw at one point, 3 sets of lancs, one set of b26's, one set of ju88's, and a ju87, all at once attacking 64. that was a pretty big drive. i had several p38's, and a couple mossies fly right by me(i was alone, and a tad lower than them) to go bomb the base(i think NB made a thread about that bit o fun).


 i didn't hear, or see anything about closing down all the bases.....but i thought i saw you as a knight last night? maybe you saw something i didn't?

BTW.......you're singlehandedly keeping the HG in top 50.......good job dude<<S>>(and i mean that seriously)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SlapShot on February 09, 2009, 01:45:53 PM
when we're doing base takes, it is to promote fights.

 :rofl ... flying in 3 or 4 sets of lancs and leveling anything and everything at a base whether it be a V base or an airfield is "promoting" a fight ?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 02:15:38 PM
:rofl ... flying in 3 or 4 sets of lancs and leveling anything and everything at a base whether it be a V base or an airfield is "promoting" a fight ?

i always find fights there(there being where the attempted base take is happening)  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 09, 2009, 02:36:16 PM
i always find fights there(there being where the attempted base take is happening)  :D


 The fight only lasts until the last poor sap is shot down by then all hangers are down and nobody can up to defend the base . If a fight is what you want then why is the cv always dropped on cv battles? We have had some awesome battles ragging then some fool comes along and sinks the cv, then the man made reef comments comes all the while not 1 building has been dropped to indicate any interest in taking the base.. Why are gv hangers and ord dropped at surrounding bases so nobody can spawn in or flyover to drop gv's?

Why is simjoke  mindlessly porking all surrounding bases 2 deep so nobody can even contest the fight. His attack mode score reads as follows 568 sorties, 0 kills, 560 deaths, 4 bails, 4 ditches. The same can be said for all his other categories except gv's. He doesn't even get a kill in anything other than an occasional buff kill and gv's.

How can throwing yourself on the grenade everytime be fun? Is he provoking a fight? Not that I see.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 09, 2009, 02:36:48 PM
i always find fights there(there being where the attempted base take is happening)  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 03:34:27 PM

 The fight only lasts until the last poor sap is shot down by then all hangers are down and nobody can up to defend the base . If a fight is what you want then why is the cv always dropped on cv battles? We have had some awesome battles ragging then some fool comes along and sinks the cv, then the man made reef comments comes all the while not 1 building has been dropped to indicate any interest in taking the base.. Why are gv hangers and ord dropped at surrounding bases so nobody can spawn in or flyover to drop gv's?

Why is simjoke  mindlessly porking all surrounding bases 2 deep so nobody can even contest the fight. His attack mode score reads as follows 568 sorties, 0 kills, 560 deaths, 4 bails, 4 ditches. The same can be said for all his other categories except gv's. He doesn't even get a kill in anything other than an occasional buff kill and gv's.

How can throwing yourself on the grenade everytime be fun? Is he provoking a fight? Not that I see.

sooo......at least as far as last night was concerned......how or why was V64 under constant air and ground attack for at least 2 hours?  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Amsoil21 on February 09, 2009, 03:38:46 PM
ROODOLPH --- total warper
 :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 04:51:59 PM
ROODOLPH --- total warper
 :aok

the Defiant.  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BnZs on February 09, 2009, 04:54:18 PM
What about UNKNOWN warpers? :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 04:57:24 PM
What about UNKNOWN warpers? :noid

like romulan birds of prey? they can achieve warp, while remaining cloaked.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Becinhu on February 09, 2009, 05:03:56 PM
Maybe they aren't really warpers but just THE MAN trying to hold you down....
 :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Bronk on February 09, 2009, 05:05:51 PM
(http://www.jtsystems.demon.co.uk/duma/images/cartoons/looserivets/3010001.jpg)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 09, 2009, 05:21:26 PM
(http://www.jtsystems.demon.co.uk/duma/images/cartoons/looserivets/3010001.jpg)

:aok :aok :aok :aok


now THAT was funny!!!!!


 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: NoBaddy on February 09, 2009, 07:57:29 PM
now would you give the game up completely even tho you have paid for it and given it so much of your time?
 
how would you prove that? by changing your name so know one would know it was you?

Yes and I have. Two different times for months. One game I had to quit completely.

Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WWhiskey on February 09, 2009, 08:24:07 PM
Yes and I have. Two different times for months. One game I had to quit completely.


:rofl :rofl  my point exactly :rofl :rofl but then again you might be the exeption :huh
wait did you mean you had to change your name for months at a time?
 :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Plawranc on February 09, 2009, 09:52:59 PM
Hi my name is bat and i've been binge warping on and off for the last 4-5 years. I don't warp all the time, I dont warp infront of my Squad if possible, but when i do it's uncontrolable and dreadfully painfull for those around me to see.  I thought I could handle it, I thought it wouldnt damage my score or friendships. Well it took a while but I'm ready to face my deamons. I'm an occasional binge warper and it is ruining my life. Thanks for starting this group. Do i pay at the end or when im cured?

Your bullets cannot harm me MY teleport is like a shield of steel ROFL
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: ColKLink on February 10, 2009, 04:10:20 AM
roodalf......Just to let ya know all three kills on you were pure luck... ya cant't fix that thing huh???  :frown:
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Bruv119 on February 10, 2009, 05:34:22 AM
me and ams were watching roodalf yesterday,

his 190 a8 outran us on deck after missing his shots at a certain WARP speed,  It is funny watching him accelerate away at .5k a warp , he crashed eventually but in places like TT where everyone loves to gang, we cant spend extra time eliminating a really bad warper when we have other enemies piling in. 

I would like to see a  (.reportwarp ) command that will log something against said warpers so at least if one indivadual gets alot of these something can be done about it,   or remove anyone with a ping of over 250-300.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Tr0jan on February 10, 2009, 07:44:51 AM
me and ams were watching roodalf yesterday,

his 190 a8 outran us on deck after missing his shots at a certain WARP speed,  It is funny watching him accelerate away at .5k a warp , he crashed eventually but in places like TT where everyone loves to gang, we cant spend extra time eliminating a really bad warper when we have other enemies piling in. 

I would like to see a  (.reportwarp ) command that will log something against said warpers so at least if one indivadual gets alot of these something can be done about it,   or remove anyone with a ping of over 250-300.

Roodalf shrecking owns u all!!!!!
 :D :D :D  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Alpha81 on February 10, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
And so ends another thrilling episode of "Days of our Mid-War Arena".  Will Guido finally get a decent connection?  Will Rod log in as Voss?  Will Lazy change his name yet again?  Be sure to turn in next week!


ack-ack


  :lol  now that's funny
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 10, 2009, 09:20:35 AM


Oh RS59 your just mad cause I called you a score dweeb, ranting about how your number 1 in MW and can't figure out how that is. The fact is nobody becomes number 1 without trying especially in MW. Here the facts if you want them...... Fighter score 26, 7 kills. Then flies everything in attack mode. I have flown against you and your not a 26 ranked fighter pilot. Play how you want but coming on and stating that you don't understand how you got there is a joke. You self admittedly said you know the guys at HT  so I would imagine that you understand how obtaining #1 works. Then you call me a moron , idiot and a few other names then use your magic HT powers to cause a screen message telling me not to insult other players (YOU). The worst I called you was a fool, oh yeh....... a score dweeb.

I voice my opinion that's all, I never went out of my way to call you out as being the score monkey you are . I just responded to you delusional statement. As soon as your statement showed up on the text buffer I heard a lot of people on channel say that's a load of bull. Hey play how you want it doesn't matter to me but call a spade a spade and stop taking your past school yard memories about how you always got picked last in kick ball  and now have taken some sort of inferiority complex to the game. I would have said nothing about you if it wasn't for your denial on all channel. As far as complaining about other things in relation to the game, I started this post and many have responded in the same way I have. How many players don't care how the game is being played ? Not many. The boards are full of it. Heck there are posts from people that have been playing for years that just have had enough of the style of play that's being done and are leaving the game. Your style is of no help either. I have had you PM me from the other side telling me you were going to drop all the hangers at a certain base so we could take it. Now is that the kind of game play a so called buddy of HT does? Singling me out as a constant complainer is rather personal. There are plenty in here that don't appreciate the game play that's happening as of late. Shuffler and AkAk are very vocal on open channel about what is going on. The last time I checked I lived in America. There still is free speech here isn't there, or do you want to take that away?




lol here we go again no proof make statements including lies and post on bbs please post these private messages. again like lazydog post stuff saying it happen then hide behind comp. any one can see i don't play for score. look at guys number 1 at end of tod not first days. Are you so stupid that you don't understand how system works.


 people were talking about guys with score padding haveing low rank i said hell i have low rank and i never bomb strats. Anyone can tell a true score freak they have bomb% over 500 and attack hit % in bombing over 200.


 use your 1 brain cell look back tod 108  top 2 guys in rank hit % in bomber is 1000 and over 200 in attack  my bombing is 163 % and about same in attack than means i bomb hangers cv's ack  where as a true score freak only hits strats. you looking at score in first few days of a tod and decideing thats a guys style of play. try growing up and telling truth then maybe someone will believe you some day.


 to be score freak means u bomb only strats and bomb strats in attack mode. I play game to have fun. i'll bomb all ack all hangers and all gvs out at a gv base for someone else to capture. All rooks know this fact. and i've been flying nit for 1 1/2 months and they will tell you i kill bases they capture. if i was really a score freak i would let others do work and capture bases. You need to learn game before you speak might make it so most don't think you a dumb #$%^&. when others think your as bad as ghost66 thats something you should work on.





lol i went last 6 tods to see if bigplay and i have fought to back up his statement in 6 tods i have 4 kills of him and he has 1 of me in fighter aginst fighter. and he makes statement i fought him i know hes not 26th best lol. omg please stop doing drugs maybe a brain cell will grow in your empty head........lol
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 10, 2009, 09:23:47 AM
And so ends another thrilling episode of "Days of our Mid-War Arena".  Will Guido finally get a decent connection?  Will Rod log in as Voss?  Will Lazy change his name yet again?  Be sure to turn in next week!


ack-ack

. come on was only Voss for 1 tod to laugh at remarks i got. lol



whats funny is this guy looks at 3 days in tod and makes these comments. atleast have enough brain cells to see scores don't mean any thing untill end of tod lol
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Anaxogoras on February 10, 2009, 09:35:08 AM
me and ams were watching roodalf yesterday,

Yet another guy who warps constantly without acknowledging it.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 10, 2009, 11:47:41 AM
. come on was only Voss for 1 tod to laugh at remarks i got. lol



whats funny is this guy looks at 3 days in tod and makes these comments. atleast have enough brain cells to see scores don't mean any thing untill end of tod lol


 I really don't need to waste any of my time on crunching the stats on you in order to come to the conclusion that you indeed  are what I said you are. I don't care. However it seems you do. Why do you feel the need to explain yourself as to me and the rest of the AH community?

As for your comment about me using 1 brain cell makes me chuckle. I have a  construction business as well as a retail business and a third income. One makes upper 5 figures, one middle 5 figures and my construction company has been making mid 6 figures for the last 8 or so years. The construction income is way down however the other 2 are stable.So if in fact if I was only operating on 1 brain cell then I wonder how many your operating on. Over the years I have become very good at  people analyzation . I have employed many different types of people and I have seen every type of BSer out there. To me you have some form of issue about your identity and how people perceive you. I would have reservations about considering you for employment. I see a lack of self confidence about you and also a very defensive personality. I think most people that play in the arena that I play in realize I am critical about a lot of what I see. I give respect to who I feel deserves it based on my personality. I also give my remarks on players who I feel do not deserve respect. Now this is my opinion nobody elses. So calling me a whinner and a liar is something I take with a grain of salt considering the source that it comes from. You can keep this thread going and continue to call me names but as far as your comments affecting me goes your wasting your time. There has been a few who have tried to tear me down with little success. You nor anyone associated with this game butters my bread , puts shoes on my family's or my feet or pay any of my bills. So continue if you must attempting to character assassinate me to your hearts content because it doesn't really have any bearing on my life other than taking a few minutes to comment on your latest post.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 10, 2009, 12:31:30 PM
WOW.......THIS ONE's going down hill pretty fast........
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SlapShot on February 10, 2009, 12:39:37 PM
To me you have some form of issue about your identity and how people perceive you.

Don't we all ?

BP ... I haven't gone all the way back and read to see where this all started ... but I have known rod for many years now, and I can, with good conscience say that he is into score whoring on the same levels as you and I. For as long as I have known him, he is all about playing the game as it was intended and as he has described in some of his posts. If he obtained/holds a high ranking, I wouldn't doubt for a minute that he earned it the "right way".

I don't know which came first here ... the chicken or the egg ... but you can rest assured that if someone accused me of being a score potato, I would be as vehement in my post as rod has displayed ... if not more.

People's intensity on defending a perceived "perception" of them is directly related to how much they hate that "perception" ... at  least that is my experience.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Ratpack1 on February 10, 2009, 01:00:34 PM
If Guido warps and nobody is there to see it, does he make a sound?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Bronk on February 10, 2009, 03:45:59 PM
I can, with good conscience say that he is into score whoring on the same levels as you and I.
Wow that bad . ;)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 10, 2009, 05:16:31 PM
No Slap we all don't care what people think about us. Maybe close friends and family but for me that's about it. Why should I ? Like I said there are people I respect in here and some I don't. Purely from a gameplaying standpoint. Some people you fly with for an amount of time you care about a little more then others but for the most part they have their lives and I have mine. I don't need to have my ego stroked by how well I play this game nor do I care about comments made about me concerning this game. It's pure entertainment not a form of testosterone pecking order.


 Slap I do respect you but I really don't care for this guy much. I know at least 5 guys that feel the same way about the guy without any solicitation. He sure can't hold back from the insults which stem from me commenting on how he can't understand how he is #1. Like AkAk has said in response to many of these guys that fly for rank, (which I believe he does) If they get  a handful of kills in ftr mode then switching over to attack. Check it out for yourself if you don't believe me. If your not concerned about your ftr rank then way switch to attack? 

In this tour he has 7 ftr kill and 22 over all kills in the spit 9. Why switch if you don't care about your ftr rank? I'm sure this type of play is reflected in past tours, I will have to check but I already know the answer.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 10, 2009, 05:19:24 PM
If Guido warps and nobody is there to see it, does he make a sound?

on that line.....if i follow that fw into the trees, and he's already gone before i hit them, did i make a sound as i pummeled through them? :D :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 10, 2009, 05:21:26 PM
Well slap I do respect you but I really don't care for this guy much. I know at least 5 guys that feel the same way about the guy without any solisatation. He sure can't hold back from the insults which stem from me commenting on how he can't understand how he is #1. Like AkAk has said in response to many of these guys that fly for rank, (which I believe he does) Is they get  a handful of kills in ftr mode then switching over to attack. Check it out for yourself if you don't believe me. If your not concerned about your ftr rank then way switch to attack?

could it be possible that they forget? i fly attack mode when i'm flying in support of my squad. when i'm only gonna fight air to air, i fly fighter. quite often, i forget to switch though, in the rush to simply click through and get my cartoon arse out on the cartoon runway.  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 10, 2009, 05:24:16 PM
could it be possible that they forget? i fly attack mode when i'm flying in support of my squad. when i'm only gonna fight air to air, i fly fighter. quite often, i forget to switch though, in the rush to simply click through and get my cartoon arse out on the cartoon runway.  :D



you have to physically switch modes otherwise it will stay on what was selected. It is obvious that he has taken the time to switch modes after he has gotten his ftr rank where he feels it needs to be.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 10, 2009, 06:58:54 PM


you have to physically switch modes otherwise it will stay on what was selected. It is obvious that he has taken the time to switch modes after he has gotten his ftr rank where he feels it needs to be.


lol i was wrong no brains cells. guy reads ranks 4 days into tod. and assumes he knows what he see;s. just like you lazydog say others must care but your one in arena on bbs complaining that i score ho. when your not smart enough to look at stats first.  guys getting  fighter rank don't go fo bombers in fighter mode unless they lancs. they don't kill ack if in fighter mode and won't even kill m3 in fighter mode worrying about score.



mean while i'll use b26 to defend bases against gvs alone against 6 or 7 rooks or bish. Anyone that knows scoreing which i do know really well. knows killing bombing gvs hurts your score and rank, killing cv's or vhs in bombers does same. Shooting gvs in fighter mode hurts figter score. and if you have half a brain ceel u could check stats and see this is what i do.
  btw genius   22 kills in spit 9 4 deaths if i was worried about fighter rank i would be in fighter mode not attack lol my rank would be lower not higher dipturd lol
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: xbrit on February 10, 2009, 08:19:49 PM
me and ams were watching roodalf yesterday,

his 190 a8 outran us on deck after missing his shots at a certain WARP speed,  It is funny watching him accelerate away at .5k a warp , he crashed eventually but in places like TT where everyone loves to gang, we cant spend extra time eliminating a really bad warper when we have other enemies piling in. 

I would like to see a  (.reportwarp ) command that will log something against said warpers so at least if one indivadual gets alot of these something can be done about it,   or remove anyone with a ping of over 250-300.


What Bruv said !! this Roodalf needs kneecapping !
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on February 10, 2009, 09:28:40 PM
Quote me where i said anything about your score.and stop involving me in this.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 10, 2009, 09:34:47 PM


you have to physically switch modes otherwise it will stay on what was selected. It is obvious that he has taken the time to switch modes after he has gotten his ftr rank where he feels it needs to be.

what makes it obvious? i fly more attack, than i do fighter, but i don;t do it for rank...which should be blatently obvious by my scores.



 I know at least 5 guys that feel the same way about the guy without any solicitation. He sure can't hold back from the insults which stem from me commenting on how he can't understand how he is #1. Like AkAk has said in response to many of these guys that fly for rank, (which I believe he does) If they get  a handful of kills in ftr mode then switching over to attack. Check it out for yourself if you don't believe me. If your not concerned about your ftr rank then way switch to attack? 

In this tour he has 7 ftr kill and 22 over all kills in the spit 9. Why switch if you don't care about your ftr rank? I'm sure this type of play is reflected in past tours, I will have to check but I already know the answer.

i could probably find 5 guys that don't like you, 5 guys that don't like me, or 5 guys that don't like just about anyone in here. that doesn't really say much. we all have our moments of making those comments too.

 i've never had any problem with you, and hope you dont think that i do now......just pointing out a couple things is all.......
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: WWhiskey on February 10, 2009, 09:37:22 PM
"nobody" likes me :O
but he ain't here right now  :rofl
 :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 10, 2009, 10:14:33 PM
I really don't need to waste any of my time on crunching the stats on you in order to come to the conclusion that you indeed  are what I said you are. I don't care. However it seems you do. Why do you feel the need to explain yourself as to me and the rest of the AH community?

As for your comment about me using 1 brain cell makes me chuckle. I have a  construction business as well as a retail business and a third income. One makes upper 5 figures, one middle 5 figures and my construction company has been making mid 6 figures for the last 8 or so years. The construction income is way down however the other 2 are stable.So if in fact if I was only operating on 1 brain cell then I wonder how many your operating on. Over the years I have become very good at  people analyzation . I have employed many different types of people and I have seen every type of BSer out there. To me you have some form of issue about your identity and how people perceive you. I would have reservations about considering you for employment. I see a lack of self confidence about you and also a very defensive personality. I think most people that play in the arena that I play in realize I am critical about a lot of what I see. I give respect to who I feel deserves it based on my personality. I also give my remarks on players who I feel do not deserve respect. Now this is my opinion nobody elses. So calling me a whinner and a liar is something I take with a grain of salt considering the source that it comes from. You can keep this thread going and continue to call me names but as far as your comments affecting me goes your wasting your time. There has been a few who have tried to tear me down with little success. You nor anyone associated with this game butters my bread , puts shoes on my family's or my feet or pay any of my bills. So continue if you must attempting to character assassinate me to your hearts content because it doesn't really have any bearing on my life other than taking a few minutes to comment on your latest post.



lol you talk about me saying i'm worried about self worth. and you come on saying u have 3 companies. LOL I wouldn't work for someone that didn't know how to atleast make a judgement based on facts. but hey maybe thats why your pretend construction company falling on hard times its pretend owner can't read numbers or understand what the numbers mean.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Chalenge on February 10, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
We cant belittle new players but its okay to belittle later?  :huh  :confused:
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 10, 2009, 10:31:10 PM
We cant belittle new players but its okay to belittle later?  :huh  :confused:

DID later do something to deserve being belittled over? and if we belittled him, and he never read this, then did we really belittle him? :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Chalenge on February 10, 2009, 10:32:52 PM
After they arent new anymore its later.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Sincraft on February 10, 2009, 10:42:37 PM

I must say that an accomplished warper is the exception not the rule Sir.  I certainly understand the frustration though.

<Salute>

I saw a you tube video of a younger guy who setup his cable modems standby button with another switch running to his joystick!
I wanted to post it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad but the last time I posted a video of a hacker I got a little talking to by hitech :(

of course, it's down...and the guy has NO videos up now.  I have his profile bookmarked now though and check back now and then.

Be sure that there are many people doing this.  And know exactly when to do this (cough bish name that resembles public transportation cough)

HEY I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING...NOTHING TO SEE HERE! :)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: zoozoo on February 11, 2009, 05:49:05 AM
18whisky has been playing in Kuwait for a few years while he was deployed. Now he is still playing on a laptop at a military base.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SlapShot on February 11, 2009, 11:07:37 AM
Slap I do respect you but I really don't care for this guy much.

Your entitled to that ... I just wanted to shed some light via my experiences ... that's all.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 11, 2009, 11:38:05 AM
We cant belittle new players but its okay to belittle later?  :huh  :confused:


this mouth and his squadie lazydog aka zack or whatever his 4 th or fifth name is now. like to come on bbs lie about other players. when asked for proof they try every thing but proof to try make their point. Isn't anyone knowing how scores work would like at my score and say i'm a score potato. just a simple minded guy who can only tell lies to try to drag others down. they didn't like it when i asked for proff of guideo  laughingor say he does it on purpose. so they started  crap. then his respoce is 5 or soo rooks feel same. when every day i fly kill them i get called traitor and so on. fun to watch a few whine. because now no free milk perks in mid war.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 11:44:30 AM

lol you talk about me saying I'm worried about self worth. and you come on saying u have 3 companies. LOL I wouldn't work for someone that didn't know how to atleast make a judgement based on facts. but hey maybe thats why your pretend construction company falling on hard times its pretend owner can't read numbers or understand what the numbers mean.
[/quote]

Who said anything about failing ..... I have been in the business for 30 years and have weathered many bad economy's. I bet it still makes me more money than your job does. FACT I also don't live in a state like you that is all but dead economy wise. FACT I live where people have money not where they use aluminum foil for window blinds or drive around in 10 year old cars that the road salt has eaten out the floorboards on. Or complain about losing their over paid union protected job putting out a piece of crap product. Or for that matter consider a women under 200 pounds a hottie. Oh yah.... I said I have 2 companies and another source of income. I know that kind of confusses a simpleton like you, "errr whats a source of income". Like I said if you want this thread to continue just keep it up. I'm just getting warmed up. :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 11:45:57 AM
what makes it obvious? i fly more attack, than i do fighter, but i don;t do it for rank...which should be blatently obvious by my scores.

i could probably find 5 guys that don't like you, 5 guys that don't like me, or 5 guys that don't like just about anyone in here. that doesn't really say much. we all have our moments of making those comments too.

 i've never had any problem with you, and hope you dont think that i do now......just pointing out a couple things is all.......


 what are you a referee now Cap?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 11:47:04 AM

this mouth and his squadie lazydog aka zack or whatever his 4 th or fifth name is now. like to come on bbs lie about other players. when asked for proof they try every thing but proof to try make their point. Isn't anyone knowing how scores work would like at my score and say i'm a score potato. just a simple minded guy who can only tell lies to try to drag others down. they didn't like it when i asked for proff of guideo  laughingor say he does it on purpose. so they started  crap. then his respoce is 5 or soo rooks feel same. when every day i fly kill them i get called traitor and so on. fun to watch a few whine. because now no free milk perks in mid war.


 :rofl :rofl :rofl I see my posts are making you  :furious
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 11:49:23 AM

this mouth and his squadie lazydog aka zack or whatever his 4 th or fifth name is now. like to come on bbs lie about other players. when asked for proof they try every thing but proof to try make their point. Isn't anyone knowing how scores work would like at my score and say i'm a score potato. just a simple minded guy who can only tell lies to try to drag others down. they didn't like it when i asked for proff of guideo  laughingor say he does it on purpose. so they started  crap. then his respoce is 5 or soo rooks feel same. when every day i fly kill them i get called traitor and so on. fun to watch a few whine. because now no free milk perks in mid war.


Dude from your spelling it's obviously you had to leave school early and tend to the farm.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 11:51:18 AM

 what are you a referee now Cap?

ya.....i figured lowzx hasn't stepped in yet, so i'd try to hold down the fort till he gets here.  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 11:52:27 AM

Dude from your spelling it's obviously you had to leave school early and tend to the farm.

you're criticizing lazy too dude. they both type pretty much the same.

just sayin......... :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: j500ss on February 11, 2009, 11:57:29 AM
you're criticizing lazy too dude. they both type pretty much the same.

just sayin......... :D

You beat me to it CAP.  :aok

Besides BigPlay, what do you have against farmers?

 :salute
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: xbrit on February 11, 2009, 12:08:05 PM
And I thought this thread was about warpers?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 12:26:03 PM
And I thought this thread was about warpers?


dude.....where ya been? we've passed warp 9 lightyears ago, and had to fire up the improbability drive. we're now in the realm of yarn.  :D :noid :rofl
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: coola4me on February 11, 2009, 12:35:26 PM
You know instead of score potato (filter) how bout score carrot or score raddish!

Just a feeble attempt at humour!! :D Carry on!!
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lowZX14 on February 11, 2009, 12:37:08 PM
ya.....i figured lowzx hasn't stepped in yet, so i'd try to hold down the fort till he gets here.  :D
I'm back, sorry.  I had to wire my cable connection to the JS.  Just kidding.......
Watch it CAP, referee from the side, if you step in the middle you'll get poo all over you.

And I thought this thread was about warpers?
Me too sir, me too, although this is a good time killer to read at work.

You know instead of score potato (filter) how bout score carrot or score raddish!

Just a feeble attempt at humour!! :D Carry on!!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I think score onion would be better....they stink to some and make others cry.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: waystin2 on February 11, 2009, 12:38:22 PM
Throwing my "IN" out there... :uhoh
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 12:42:59 PM
you're criticizing lazy too dude. they both type pretty much the same.

just sayin......... :D

True , Lazy is a bad speller as well.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 12:59:27 PM
True , Lazy is a bad speller as well.

and since i know he's probably reading this, i did NOT say that in meanness..........i'm havin a ball with this thread, considerin the headaches at work lately.  :D :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 01:00:16 PM
I'm back, sorry.  I had to wire my cable connection to the JS.  Just kidding.......
Watch it CAP, referee from the side, if you step in the middle you'll get poo all over you.
Me too sir, me too, although this is a good time killer to read at work.
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
I think score onion would be better....they stink to some and make others cry.

i'm skinny, and have the reflexes of a cat.......they'll never hit me.  :rofl :rofl :noid
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: bongaroo on February 11, 2009, 01:19:22 PM
I wish I hadn't of posted in this thread earlier.  It keeps showing up in my "replied to threads" page and I feel dumb everytime I click on it.  Such a waste of bandwidth.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 01:26:54 PM
and since i know he's probably reading this, i did NOT say that in meanness..........i'm havin a ball with this thread, considerin the headaches at work lately.  :D :aok

What happened did RS59 bring in his yugo again?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rod367th on February 11, 2009, 01:49:05 PM
What happened did RS59 bring in his yugo again?



 lol bigplay you are i thought u were dumn didn't know your dumbest. You listen to biggamer call someone a milker  to funny. you want to see what a real milk score looks like go see grumpy37. or go look at biggamer's fighter score. you are clueless to what scores even mean. beign low number is only good for turning cv as friends land. listening to biggamer and the rooks who whine cause i chaged sides to kill them is funny. just lie today biggammer calling me a traitor bytch and grumpy37 calling me a milker. lol you guys funny you die then post bs  and to make up for dying lol. lolloloollolololololololololo lolololololololololololololol ololololololo
 
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 01:57:15 PM
What happened did RS59 bring in his yugo again?

??
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 01:58:52 PM


 lol bigplay you are i thought u were dumn didn't know your dumbest. You listen to biggamer call someone a milker  to funny. you want to see what a real milk score looks like go see grumpy37. or go look at biggamer's fighter score. you are clueless to what scores even mean. beign low number is only good for turning cv as friends land. listening to biggamer and the rooks who whine cause i chaged sides to kill them is funny. just lie today biggammer calling me a traitor bytch and grumpy37 calling me a milker. lol you guys funny you die then post bs  and to make up for dying lol. lolloloollolololololololololo lolololololololololololololol ololololololo
 

dude....i say this in all sincerity, and don't mean anything bad by it.


get a spell checker, and learn to use punctuation.  :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lazydog on February 11, 2009, 02:04:41 PM
NP cap i know my spelling sux
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 02:16:09 PM
NP cap i know my spelling sux

just wanted to be sure you knew i wasn't takin a shot at ya.  :D
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 02:41:32 PM
dude....i say this in all sincerity, and don't mean anything bad by it.


get a spell checker, and learn to use punctuation.  :aok


 :rofl now cap is calling out your 3rd grade education.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 02:44:14 PM
??

 The Yugo was a total piece of crap made in Yugoslavia a number of years ago. I think they had a 2 year shelf life. Don't know if any are still rolling but they were notorious for being very unreliable.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 03:11:56 PM
The Yugo was a total piece of crap made in Yugoslavia a number of years ago. I think they had a 2 year shelf life. Don't know if any are still rolling but they were notorious for being very unreliable.

i know what they are. i've had the displeasure of working on a couple of them. i just didn't understand what a yugo had to do with the ongoing discussion?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SlapShot on February 11, 2009, 03:15:04 PM
NP cap i know my spelling sux

Whew ... glad we got past that and out in the open ...  ;)
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SlapShot on February 11, 2009, 03:16:48 PM
Let me see if I can make the connection for ya ...

considerin the headaches at work lately.  :D :aok

What happened did RS59 bring in his yugo again?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 03:28:12 PM
Let me see if I can make the connection for ya ...


DOH!!........THAT just gave me the best laugh so far in this thread.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

see how bad things are going for me? i let that one sail clear over my head.  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: BigPlay on February 11, 2009, 04:27:39 PM
DOH!!........THAT just gave me the best laugh so far in this thread.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

see how bad things are going for me? i let that one sail clear over my head.  :rofl :rofl

 :rofl glad someone can connect the dots, knew I liked you for a reason Slap ! Just joking Cap  :devil
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: CAP1 on February 11, 2009, 04:49:30 PM
:rofl glad someone can connect the dots, knew I liked you for a reason Slap ! Just joking Cap  :devil

i know.......that, and the fact that someone had to explain it to me gave me the best laugh i've had in a couple of days.  :aok
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: rapp25 on February 26, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
roodalf......Just to let ya know all three kills on you were pure luck... ya cant't fix that thing huh???  :frown:


ROODALF is the worst I've ever seen, his plane can do maneuvers UFOs cant - I am certain he is a romulan also with his cloaking technolgy and warp drive. I've pmed him a few times with no response this guy must be using empty trash cans and rope for a connection.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: grizz441 on February 26, 2009, 08:27:15 PM
Nothing to see here, move along...
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: icepac on April 09, 2011, 03:00:16 PM
Necropost alert!!

I've just read the entire thread and I see a lot of denial that pilots exploit warp on demand as well as accusations of warp on demand that could be either high latency or unintentional lag events.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I've spent some time experimenting with warp in warbirds, freehost, air warrior.....but not here yet since I am on a cell phone connex using edge network and any connection funny business just drops the connection entirely.

Nobody has complained that I am warping because my connection is stable even if the latency is relatively high but the 300ms connex could eventually show itself when in a wild turning fight with lots of reverses.......it just hasn't yet because Aces High has some pretty good smoothing code.

Unintentional warping can benefit or hinder either party in a 1 VS 1 battle without favoring one exclusively through the length of the battle.

Here is one scenario with two different actions by the "chasee" just before and during the lag event.

BEING THE CHASER IN A TAIL CHASE SCENARIO WITH CHASEE EXPERIENCING UNINTENTIONAL LAG:

If you're closing while tail chasing someone and they experience a lag event, the smoothing code will display thier plane on your front end to continue doing whatever the server's last update has thier control position.

If thier controls were set for straight and level at the time of lag, thier plane will continue straight and level even if they pulled hard just after the lag event.

If they were in the act of pulling at the time of the lag, the server will show them to continue turning even if the person reversed or relaxed input just after the lag event.

During this lag, the server is using only your front end as reporting "the truth" concerning position....until the lagger's connection returns and reports his new position, speed, attitude, and control deflection.

1.   So.....you're chasing a con in a straight and level tail chase who experiences unintentional lag just as you close to gun range......he's making no course correction....

Your opponent will continue straight and level and your shooting his plane that is displayed on your front end should land the hits (lets say lethal cannon hits) during this period and his front end will record the damage once connection is re-established and he blows up .......pretty much where you expect him to be and you might not notice that there was any lag event at all.

2.  So.....you're chasing a con in a straight and level tail chase who experiences unintentional lag just as you close to gun range......he's made a hard break just after the lag event began.

In this case, he will still show up as still flying straight and level as mentioned in instance #1 above and your landing lethal cannon hits will still count once connection is established.

The difference is that, on re-establishing connection, his plane will be yanked away by "the hand of god".

Luckily you landed letal hits and he still blows up.....just somewhere other than in front of you.

3.  So.....you're chasing a con in a straight and level tail chase who experiences unintentional lag just as you close to gun range......he broke hard just before the lag event began.

You will see what looks like a normal instantaneous turn rate that will start looking more and more unreal as time passes.

Once the lagger's connex has returned, the "hand of god" will pull him to the position reported by his front end.

If he simply held the turn during the event, the "hand of god" will probably put him relatively near to where you expect him to be with only a small amount of deviation.

If he reversed or leveled during the lag event, the he will likely disappear from your field of view and end up somewhere you did not expect once connection has returned while you continue to follow his break turn wondering where he went.

This is just one scenario with a few different actions just before and during the lag event.

It's also possible that there are varying degrees of lag and that certain information such as position data making it through while other information such as control inputs does not .....or maybe everything but hit reporting gets updated.....not fully sure on aces high.

Knowing how the smoothing code works is how intentional warpers use it to thier advantage.

A good "warper" using "warp on demand" can exploit the program to benefit himself in most any scenario whether defensively, offensively, in a HO, a tail chase....etc.

I won't mention how these exploits are performed because it will surely spawn people trying it in the arenas but I'm sure there are many pilots here who know how it is done and have the ability to distinguish warp on demand from either random unintentional events or just high latency.








Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Tigger29 on April 09, 2011, 03:04:55 PM
Necropost alert!!

Wow!  What a really good way to get this INteresting thread locked.  Good job!
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 09, 2011, 03:08:07 PM
icepac, when they slap you with a 'SEE RULE #..." be sure to read the rule.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: icepac on April 09, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
Wow!  What a really good way to get this INteresting thread locked.  Good job!

What's the difference between a thread that's no longer updated and a locked thread?

Answer....nothing.

The post was on topic and far better here than my authoring a new one so I can hear "already been covered" and "use the search function".....which is exactly what would have happened had I authored a new thread.

Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: lulu on April 09, 2011, 03:18:00 PM
"I once had to make the choice of not flying, or fly with a horrible Sat. connection with 1500ms pings.

I chose to fly."


Did you try to 'connect' by birds ?


 :neener:
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: mechanic on April 09, 2011, 03:18:06 PM
What's the difference between a thread that's no longer updated and a locked thread?

Answer....nothing.

The post was on topic and far better here than my authoring a new one so I can hear "already been covered" and "use the search function".....which is exactly what would have happened had I authored a new thread.




+1
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: DMGOD on April 09, 2011, 03:39:48 PM
lol there is a guy who has quite the warping issue and every time I tell him  about it he tells me to send film to HTC or he sends some pretty nice 4 letter pm's my way. Man you gotta love getting on a la7's 6 and next thing he warps right behind u and kills u.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: waystin2 on April 09, 2011, 04:17:24 PM
I am calling IN before the lock. :banana:
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Zoney on April 09, 2011, 04:27:34 PM
What's the difference between a thread that's no longer updated and a locked thread?

Answer....nothing.

The post was on topic and far better here than my authoring a new one so I can hear "already been covered" and "use the search function".....which is exactly what would have happened had I authored a new thread.



No.


Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 09, 2011, 04:47:07 PM
What's the difference between a thread that's no longer updated and a locked thread?

Answer....nothing.

The post was on topic and far better here than my authoring a new one so I can hear "already been covered" and "use the search function".....which is exactly what would have happened had I authored a new thread.



Starting a new thread, with a link to the original thread, so discussion can take place versus getting the thread locked and discussion ended?


wrongway
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: dunnrite on April 09, 2011, 04:48:15 PM
I am calling IN before the lock. :banana:

You already did  :P
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: ozrocker on April 10, 2011, 07:53:29 AM
Hi my name is bat and i've been binge warping on and off for the last 4-5 years. I don't warp all the time, I dont warp infront of my Squad if possible, but when i do it's uncontrolable and dreadfully painfull for those around me to see.  I thought I could handle it, I thought it wouldnt damage my score or friendships. Well it took a while but I'm ready to face my deamons. I'm an occasional binge warper and it is ruining my life. Thanks for starting this group. Do i pay at the end or when im cured?
<S>Bat,
The Betty Fordd clinic for Warpage can cure you! An intensive "In-house" 6 week program.
All for a mere 25k
First step in a cure is admitting a problem, which you have done Sir!
                                                                                            <S> Oz
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Tupac on April 10, 2011, 08:36:10 AM
joeblack warps really bad
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SunBat on April 10, 2011, 11:18:42 AM
Funny thing is if he had started his own thread everyone would have found this one and posted it and said snotty things like, "use the serch function" and "bin discused already sea", blah, blah, blah...

And riddle me this...

Why are all of you old-thread-protectors so concerned about an old thread getting bumped and locked?  If a thread can't be posted in because it is against the rules then what is the difference between it being locked or it being hidden away and forbidden to be posted in by the BBS little-moderators-my-ego-needs-stroking-oh-yay-a-chance-to-be-right!!!11!!1 crowd?

EDIT:  P.S.  JoeBlack is the all-time greatest warper.  He supplements it with a fine whine about how he is entitled to warp...

Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: grizz441 on April 10, 2011, 11:25:38 AM
Starting a new thread, with a link to the original thread, so discussion can take place versus getting the thread locked and discussion ended?


wrongway

Linking to a locked thread is not possible?
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: mechanic on April 10, 2011, 12:02:37 PM
<S>Bat,
The Betty Fordd clinic for Warpage can cure you! An intensive "In-house" 6 week program.
All for a mere 25k
First step in a cure is admitting a problem, which you have done Sir!
                                                                                            <S> Oz

 :rofl

I had forgotten about this, I must be cured!

Thank you Oz
S!
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: RoGenT on April 10, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Although I know this isn't me he is talking about. However, I know because of my connection issues ever since this new Router has been installed (should be getting it replaced tomorrow, assuming geek squad actual do their jobs right this time) then hopefully I won't have any warp and connection issues. I had few people tell me I do warp just before losing connection.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 10, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
Linking to a locked thread is not possible?

If you mean, start a new thread with a link in said new thread to the original thread being referenced, That's Brilliant!!

I wish I'd though of that.

Funny thing is if he had started his own thread everyone would have found this one and posted it and said snotty things like, "use the serch function" and "bin discused already sea", blah, blah, blah...

And riddle me this...

Why are all of you old-thread-protectors so concerned about an old thread getting bumped and locked?  If a thread can't be posted in because it is against the rules then what is the difference between it being locked or it being hidden away and forbidden to be posted in by the BBS little-moderators-my-ego-needs-stroking-oh-yay-a-chance-to-be-right!!!11!!1 crowd?

If you bump an old thread, it gets locked, not hidden away.
If you start a new thread with reference to the old thread(s) then it shows you did search.
If you have nothing new to contribute then what is the point of posting in the old thread.

Simple.

And thanks, my ego is happy again.


wrongway
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Ping on April 10, 2011, 03:10:34 PM
No matter what its a valid argument
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: grizz441 on April 10, 2011, 03:13:12 PM
If you mean, start a new thread with a link in said new thread to the original thread being referenced, That's Brilliant!!

No...

You said that it's better to reference to the necro thread than get it locked.  I said that you can still link to a locked thread just as easy as linking to a non locked thread and according to your thread bumping doctrine, a locked necro thread and an open necro thread are identical entities, since you cannot post in a locked necro thread, and posting in a non locked necro thread is just plain blasphemy.

Brilliance denied.

If you bump an old thread, it gets locked, not hidden away.

Who cares if it gets locked?  It's off limits and blasphemy to post in anyways right?

If you start a new thread with reference to the old thread(s) then it shows you did search.

If you resurrect a necro thread on topic, it also shows you searched, hence the bump, duh.

If you have nothing new to contribute then what is the point of posting in the old thread.

Who are you to say that the new post was not a contribution?  
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: DMGOD on April 10, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
That gt101 guy beats joeblack in the warping
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: SunBat on April 10, 2011, 04:45:51 PM

Who cares if it gets locked?  It's off limits and blasphemy to post in anyways right?


This was my point wrongway. Pay attention.

Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 10, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
This was my point wrongway. Pay attention.



Sorry.

I'll try harder.

You can't quote with the date tag stuff from a locked thread.  :(



wrongway

Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: icepac on April 10, 2011, 08:39:18 PM
If there was a reason to lock a thread, it would be because most of you guys can't post on topic.

In an attempt to satisfy the whiners, I guess I could write a complete dissertation of warp at an off-site page and link it here in a new thread.

I could explain how it happens down to machine level, why you see what you see, the thresholds of disconnect, and a how-to guide on exploiting warp on demand........but that would be counterproductive to gameplay so I only posted a small explanation and example scenario to help people understand why they see what they see.

If you want to discuss warp, this seems a good place as any except for the people who can't stay on topic.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: Belial on April 10, 2011, 08:43:49 PM
I've been told I take multiple hits to kill sometimes in a tank...but for some reason nobody calls me a warper in a plane....hmmm?  :huh
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: fbWldcat on April 10, 2011, 08:48:55 PM
How'd this thread get past Skuzzy the FIRST time?  :headscratch:



In.
Title: Re: Known Warpers
Post by: ozrocker on April 11, 2011, 06:44:21 AM
:rofl

I had forgotten about this, I must be cured!

Thank you Oz
S!
:D Congrats Bat! A Warp Free life for you! WTG! :rofl



                                                                       <S> Oz