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Title: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on June 19, 2013, 04:50:23 AM
In a recent thread I made what I still think was a decent leap of extrapolation to smoke out a particularly nasty weevil which has been griefing AH players for at least three years. Most especially during weekends at the furbal lake by flying a Tempest, with a second account used to dot wingman his victims and with that second account in God Mode so he could determine your altitude and which exact plane you are flying etcetera.

I identified ACM which was unmistakable connecting this player to a set of instructional films presented in Badboy's "Don't Get In a Flap" thread:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,271266.msg3390715.html#msg3390715

Ironically enough a gap in my reasoning was suggested by Midway's insistance that I was wrong, he made me think of one possibility I had not considered: That the pilot in Badboy's thread might not actually be Badboy himself. I thank Midway for his well constructed post, and standing by his conviction.

It has now been explained to me that this is the case, the pilot in Badboy's thread, and THEREFORE the DA lake Tempest griefer is this other pilot and not Badboy.

I have been informed via PM by numerous long-time players that the pilot in those films is actually TequilaChaser, apparently a friend and former squadmate? (<-not sure about that part, a squadron called The Damned? Before my time), and also an official Aces High Trainer.

Therefore, I apologize to Badboy for incorrectly accusing him of being said griefing pilot. I do not know if Badboy is aware of this person's activities or if he approves or not, nor the extent to which he would go to to protect his friend, it is irrelevant.

I have met Badboy in game and he was always civil to me and has of course contributed a great deal of resources to this game's community.

I am sorry Badboy, I apologize.


<Salute> nrshida

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 19, 2013, 07:25:12 AM
...
I have met Badboy in game and he was always civil to me and has of course contributed a great deal of resources to this game's community.

I am sorry Badboy, I apologize.


<Salute> nrshida



I hope enough people see this to undo the reputational damage of your false impugnations and disparagements that this outstanding Aces High contributor's character has had to endure.  :frown:


False accusations lacking factual evidence is no way to justify your means to accomplish your ends. :old:
May Badboy's awesome reputation remain untarnished in the minds of all. :old:
Thank you, Nrshida, for considering your way. :old:

Zack1234, Nrshida is now all yours. :ahand

 :salute Badboy :rock
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 19, 2013, 07:32:25 AM
Badboy?

Never heard of him :)

Never seem him in game :)

He must be guilty of some game crime! :old:

Everyone is :)

Midway and Shida are awesome so is AH :)p

 :rofl :rofl

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: LCADolby on June 19, 2013, 07:34:51 AM
He must be guilty of some game crime! :old:

Everyone is :)


I once picked up a pound coin off the street and kept it without thought to finding the original owner...  :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 19, 2013, 07:35:26 AM
Badboy?

Never heard of him :)

Never seem him in game :)

He must be guilty of some game crime! :old:

Everyone is :)

Midway and Shida are awesome so is AH :)p

 :rofl :rofl



http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2314;sa=showPosts :aok

 :rock
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: dirtdart on June 19, 2013, 07:35:32 AM
Guys flying around furball lake in a tempest, picking fights, should just go by an X-box or return to "Quake."
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Oldman731 on June 19, 2013, 07:38:01 AM
I have been informed via PM by numerous long-time players that the pilot in those films is actually TequilaChaser, apparently a friend and former squadmate? (<-not sure about that part, a squadron called The Damned? Before my time), and also an official Aces High Trainer.


I'm sorry, I don't buy this.  I didn't buy the allegation that Badboy (a/k/a Badz for oldtimers) was the perp, and I don't buy the notion that it's TC, either.  Not without a lot more proof than what I've seen here.

- oldman
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 19, 2013, 07:48:33 AM

I'm sorry, I don't buy this.  I didn't buy the allegation that Badboy (a/k/a Badz for oldtimers) was the perp, and I don't buy the notion that it's TC, either.  Not without a lot more proof than what I've seen here.

- oldman

Hopefully Nrshida has learned from the experience and backs off TC pending irrefutable fact based proof. :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 19, 2013, 07:49:06 AM
From Midways link Badboy is awesome, Shida should fall on someones sword :rofl
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 19, 2013, 09:28:18 AM
From Midways link Badboy is awesome, Shida should fall on someones sword :rofl

Hopefully it was but a moment(s) of weakness, more than offset by all the good that is in Nrshida. :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: VonMessa on June 19, 2013, 09:38:02 AM

I'm sorry, I don't buy this.  I didn't buy the allegation that Badboy (a/k/a Badz for oldtimers) was the perp, and I don't buy the notion that it's TC, either.  Not without a lot more proof than what I've seen here.

- oldman

Your skepticism comes with the profession  :D
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Zacherof on June 19, 2013, 09:47:33 AM
Guys flying around furball lake in a tempest, picking fights, should
just go by an X-box or return to "Quake."
for what it's worth, all everyone flys in there are spit 14's/16's,-1C/-4's and other uber rides and fly even more cowardly than in the MA a times. I think some Planes should be slightly perked, but no perks can be earned in the DA.

 

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: SAJ73 on June 19, 2013, 09:48:20 AM
Hmmm... TequilaChaser.. was it?
I remember some dude that always showed up in a Tempest in DA and clobbered everything flying around him, but I struggle to remember the name.. TequilaChaser kinda sounds right, but no.. I must be thinking of another one.. Was a shorter name..  :headscratch:

This is years ago now anyway, I just got reminded when I read nrshidas description of flying style. This dude could handle the Tempest like nobody I've seen for sure, and he was not a regular in DA. He could show up, do 5-6 sorties just to scoop up a bag of kills and leave. Irritating bloke, because he would let nobody come near him.  :huh
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Debrody on June 19, 2013, 09:51:40 AM
Hmmm... TequilaChaser.. was it?
I remember some dude that always showed up in a Tempest in DA and clobbered everything flying around him, but I struggle to remember the name.. TequilaChaser kinda sounds right, but no.. I must be thinking of another one.. Was a shorter name..  :headscratch:

This is years ago now anyway, I just got reminded when I read nrshidas description of flying style. This dude could handle the Tempest like nobody I've seen for sure, and he was not a regular in DA. He could show up, do 5-6 sorties just to scoop up a bag of kills and leave. Irritating bloke, because he would let nobody come near him.  :huh
The ominose tempest picktard had a new name every day, thats why you cant remember him. Also he was jumping into private duels even after being asked to stay out.

The other one was called DikTater, and he actually fought in that tempon.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 19, 2013, 10:03:58 AM
Hmmm... TequilaChaser.. was it?
I remember some dude that always showed up in a Tempest in DA and clobbered everything flying around him, but I struggle to remember the name.. TequilaChaser kinda sounds right, but no.. I must be thinking of another one.. Was a shorter name..  :headscratch:

This is years ago now anyway, I just got reminded when I read nrshidas description of flying style. This dude could handle the Tempest like nobody I've seen for sure, and he was not a regular in DA. He could show up, do 5-6 sorties just to scoop up a bag of kills and leave. Irritating bloke, because he would let nobody come near him.  :huh

Zorro? <Z>  :)

If him, he was fun to fight...very very serious guy.  I liked Zorro and DA Cobra too, always fun. :banana:

I wish they'd show up again.  I miss them greatly. :cry

 :salute Zorro <Z>  :rock
 :salute Cobra  :rock
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Slash27 on June 19, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
TC is actually a hell of a fun guy while Badboy is known to do exactly what was described. But at the end of the day, who cares? We all get wrapped up in AH world a bit too much for our own good and Shida is about as stand up as they come in my book.  :salute Shida.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: SAJ73 on June 19, 2013, 10:21:52 AM
No, it was not Zorro. I need to chew on it for ahwile.. I kinda picture me the letters in the hazy distant, but they don't get clear enough to read..  :rolleyes:

Argh, it's like I can see the name but can't pronounce it.  :furious
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: SAJ73 on June 19, 2013, 10:34:20 AM
Hope I am not shooting myself in the leg here, but it reminds me of IrishOne.. The name I see in my head. I am not saying it was, but the letters in the name fit in my head as I remember that name. But I've fought IrishOne a number of times in MA and never thought of it, and he really stands out as a overall nice guy too. Have saluted back and forth after numerous fun fights with him, resulting in chatting on pm's and all in good fun. So I must be remembering wrong..  :noid
Can't even recall I've seen him fly the Tempest much in MA either when I think of it.
No, it must be another name I'm thinking of.. Possibly some of the same letters.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 19, 2013, 10:38:08 AM
Hope I am not shooting myself in the leg here, but it reminds me of IrishOne.. The name I see in my head. I am not saying it was, but the letters in the name fit in my head as I remember that name. But I've fought IrishOne a number of times in MA and never thought of it, and he really stands out as a overall nice guy too. Have saluted back and forth after numerous fun fights with him, resulting in chatting on pm's and all in good fun. So I must be remembering wrong..  :noid
Can't even recall I've seen him fly the Tempest much in MA either when I think of it.
No, it must be another name I'm thinking of.. Possibly some of the same letters.  :headscratch:

Can't be IrishOne, an awesome nice, smart, caring, good and just plain cool pilot. :rock
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: SAJ73 on June 19, 2013, 10:42:44 AM
Can't be IrishOne, an awesome nice, smart, caring, good and just plain cool pilot. :rock

Totally agreed Midway, he is! So no, can't be him! I just can't remember the name, maybe it will come to me at a later occation when I am not trying so hard.  :P
So if I shout out a sudden name with no context to the regarding thread, you will know what it's all about.  :rofl
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 19, 2013, 10:46:51 AM
Is he really Irish or 9th generation American Irish? :)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: SAJ73 on June 19, 2013, 10:48:17 AM
Or does he just drink alot of Irish coffee? Some say... I know nothing.  :noid
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Copprhed on June 19, 2013, 11:46:15 AM
The pilot that Shida's referring to has gone by several nicks, he will interfere in matches at the private areas, will wait til two pilots are engaged away from everyone else and the pick them both, after which he get junk started on chat. He won't dual you, just run his mouth. His plan is to just spoil everyone's good time. The only successful way to fight this, I've found is to rally everyone who will, to hunt this player til he leaves, which is usually pretty quickly, though he sometimes comes right back under a different nick.....and he does have an uncanny ability to find a specific play in a group of similar planes and pick the one player......
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Fulcrum on June 19, 2013, 01:25:58 PM
The ominose tempest picktard had a new name every day, thats why you cant remember him. Also he was jumping into private duels even after being asked to stay out.

The other one was called DikTater, and he actually fought in that tempon.

DikTater was never skilled enough, in my mind, to qualify as being one of the indivduals who were mentioned previously. I've fought him.  He's good, but not what I would consider "great" i.e. if I could beat him in a turny fight every once in a blue moon (which, if memory serves, I did on Furball Lake if not in an official 1v1 duel) he can't possibly be "BadBoy" or anyone else at that level.    

Then again....who cares who he is?   ;)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: ink on June 19, 2013, 02:00:29 PM
TC is actually a hell of a fun guy while Badboy is known to do exactly what was described. But at the end of the day, who cares? We all get wrapped up in AH world a bit too much for our own good and Shida is about as stand up as they come in my book.  :salute Shida.

Ditto
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Delirium on June 19, 2013, 02:38:36 PM
Suddenly Badboy is innocent and TC is guilty?

I strongly urge this community to keep their conjectures to themselves without solid proof. Witch hunts tend to spiral out of control and just diminishes a community (of any kind). If you don't believe me, ask Rebecca Nurse.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Triton28 on June 19, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
If you don't believe me, ask Rebecca Nurse.

If we did, and she answered, I think she'd be guilty of exactly what we thought she was innocent of all this time.   :)

My lame humor aside, I do think this community as a whole would do well to stfu about anything cartoonishly important for a while.  There has been a lot of typing without thinking going on lately. 

 :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Kingpin on June 19, 2013, 03:22:44 PM
TC is actually a hell of a fun guy while Badboy is known to do exactly what was described. But at the end of the day, who cares? We all get wrapped up in AH world a bit too much for our own good and Shida is about as stand up as they come in my book.  :salute Shida.

I personally have recently (in the last 2 months or so) seen TC flying as himself in the DA Furball Lake.  I think he does similar to what I do, which is go in for a couple sorties and "warm up" before the MA or FSO or whatever.  He seems to me to have always been one of the gentlemen in there.  He will also talk about how there are too many tempon pickers or smack talkers, so it would surprise me greatly if he turned around and did the same thing to grief people.

On the other hand, I understand where Shida is coming from, as he likes to fly in the DA Furball Lake and wants to "clean up" the activity in there.   I supposed he has made it his mission to expose this greifer, though I'm not sure that will change anything.  This shade flying a tempest and using a second account in god mode to single out and pick players is not a figment of Shida's imagination.  I found out after shooting him down (some name I'd never seen before), and he decided he needed vengence and found me (and only me) in a large furball and picked me in his tempie.  He then PM'd me to gloat about it, and even admitted during the conversation that he used god mode to find me.

Between this clown and the pilot-formerly-known-as-Bong's incessant verbal abuse of players on 200, the DA Lake probably is in need of some clean up.  I just don't know how that is possible, short of having a regular mod in there or simply disabling the ALL and 200 channels entirely.

 :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: LCADolby on June 19, 2013, 04:48:06 PM
TC was most definitely the smack talking and volatile V1PER, the manner in which he smacked talked and trolled, this one's a winner.  :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on June 20, 2013, 12:07:05 AM
I hereby withdraw my apology to Badboy.

Badboy, you truly are one disturbed individual. I would urge you to seek professional help instead of running your Jekyll & Hyde routine in the 'safe' realms of internet anonymity.

To the rest of the community: I cannot share the evidence I have now been supplied with to support my original conclusion regarding the connection between the player featuring in the films posted both by Gunzo / Zippy and Badboy. I am not the only member of this community to have seen it, but it cannot be shared without compromising the individual who supplied it, and unless they choose to do so that is where it stops. Thank you to that individual for stepping forth and maintaining my sanity.

I accept that some will now question my credibility because of this last twist marked by the original post in this thread and if you choose to dismiss everything I have said because of this then so be it. I would apologize to TC however he has been shading and griefing in his own way and if you choose to do that, and associate with this person, well then frankly you can expect to have some poo flung at you. I am presently in no mood to apologize to anyone further.

This has been a very conclusive lesson for me about what some people are using the internet, the game of Aces High and its forum for. My opinion of the depths, ingenuity and energy some people put into this kind of activity was woefully short of the mark. Adjustment made. Let this be a lesson to everyone to trust your instincts and not be swayed by any notion of an artificially cultivated 'good character'.

Addressing the forthcoming s**tstorm which is undoubtedly heading in my direction: I have met some fantastic people through this game and forum, funny people, clever people, knowledgeable people and people of admirable character who have not let difficult backgrounds twist them into monstrous shapes. Now THAT is strength of character. I shall henceforth confine my interaction to those people. To the 'others': don't even waste your energy. I now know what you're all about, I will simply ignore you. I have no time nor taste to engage with people who's emotional intelligence and self awareness is so low as to to disqualify you from a 'normal' exchange.

I shall continue to fly Aces High, as nrshida, and I will not be pushed away from my hobby nor this forum. So \/.. basically.

To all my friends in Aces High, and I only now realize just how many I have, I shall henceforth be detuning from channel 200, from Country channel and from '1 All' in the DA. If you want to talk to me either PM me in game or send me a forum message and I will supply you with the information for my channel on the GFC's Ventrillo server. I will have Ventrillo on whenever I fly. Any abusive PMs from anyone else and I'll have you squelched by the end of your first sentence and then report you.

It's high time this game returned to what it was originally all about.

I will respond to the large amount of PMs I have received over the next few days.


Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: kappa on June 20, 2013, 01:09:24 AM
I hereby withdraw my apology to Badboy.

Badboy, you truly are one disturbed individual. I would urge you to seek professional help instead of running your Jekyll & Hyde routine in the 'safe' realms of internet anonymity.

To the rest of the community: I cannot share the evidence I have now been supplied with to support my original conclusion regarding the connection between the player featuring in the films posted both by Gunzo / Zippy and Badboy. I am not the only member of this community to have seen it, but it cannot be shared without compromising the individual who supplied it, and unless they choose to do so that is where it stops. Thank you to that individual for stepping forth and maintaining my sanity.

I accept that some will now question my credibility because of this last twist marked by the original post in this thread and if you choose to dismiss everything I have said because of this then so be it. I would apologize to TC however he has been shading and griefing in his own way and if you choose to do that, and associate with this person, well then frankly you can expect to have some poo flung at you. I am presently in no mood to apologize to anyone further.

This has been a very conclusive lesson for me about what some people are using the internet, the game of Aces High and its forum for. My opinion of the depths, ingenuity and energy some people put into this kind of activity was woefully short of the mark. Adjustment made. Let this be a lesson to everyone to trust your instincts and not be swayed by any notion of an artificially cultivated 'good character'.

Addressing the forthcoming s**tstorm which is undoubtedly heading in my direction: I have met some fantastic people through this game and forum, funny people, clever people, knowledgeable people and people of admirable character who have not let difficult backgrounds twist them into monstrous shapes. Now THAT is strength of character. I shall henceforth confine my interaction to those people. To the 'others': don't even waste your energy. I now know what you're all about, I will simply ignore you. I have no time nor taste to engage with people who's emotional intelligence and self awareness is so low as to to disqualify you from a 'normal' exchange.

I shall continue to fly Aces High, as nrshida, and I will not be pushed away from my hobby nor this forum. So \/.. basically.

To all my friends in Aces High, and I only now realize just how many I have, I shall henceforth be detuning from channel 200, from Country channel and from '1 All' in the DA. If you want to talk to me either PM me in game or send me a forum message and I will supply you with the information for my channel on the GFC's Ventrillo server. I will have Ventrillo on whenever I fly. Any abusive PMs from anyone else and I'll have you squelched by the end of your first sentence and then report you.

It's high time this game returned to what it was originally all about.

I will respond to the large amount of PMs I have received over the next few days.




good on you nrshida!  :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 20, 2013, 02:12:33 AM
Am I still awesome? :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: sunfan1121 on June 20, 2013, 02:24:45 AM
Wow midway sure does look extra dumb in this thread... But i still love him.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: LCADolby on June 20, 2013, 04:32:31 AM
Leon and Johnny live inside the same head after all  :x
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: VonMessa on June 20, 2013, 08:36:28 AM
I hereby withdraw my apology to Badboy.

Badboy, you truly are one disturbed individual. I would urge you to seek professional help instead of running your Jekyll & Hyde routine in the 'safe' realms of internet anonymity.

To the rest of the community: I cannot share the evidence I have now been supplied with to support my original conclusion regarding the connection between the player featuring in the films posted both by Gunzo / Zippy and Badboy. I am not the only member of this community to have seen it, but it cannot be shared without compromising the individual who supplied it, and unless they choose to do so that is where it stops. Thank you to that individual for stepping forth and maintaining my sanity.

I accept that some will now question my credibility because of this last twist marked by the original post in this thread and if you choose to dismiss everything I have said because of this then so be it. I would apologize to TC however he has been shading and griefing in his own way and if you choose to do that, and associate with this person, well then frankly you can expect to have some poo flung at you. I am presently in no mood to apologize to anyone further.

This has been a very conclusive lesson for me about what some people are using the internet, the game of Aces High and its forum for. My opinion of the depths, ingenuity and energy some people put into this kind of activity was woefully short of the mark. Adjustment made. Let this be a lesson to everyone to trust your instincts and not be swayed by any notion of an artificially cultivated 'good character'.

Addressing the forthcoming s**tstorm which is undoubtedly heading in my direction: I have met some fantastic people through this game and forum, funny people, clever people, knowledgeable people and people of admirable character who have not let difficult backgrounds twist them into monstrous shapes. Now THAT is strength of character. I shall henceforth confine my interaction to those people. To the 'others': don't even waste your energy. I now know what you're all about, I will simply ignore you. I have no time nor taste to engage with people who's emotional intelligence and self awareness is so low as to to disqualify you from a 'normal' exchange.

I shall continue to fly Aces High, as nrshida, and I will not be pushed away from my hobby nor this forum. So \/.. basically.

To all my friends in Aces High, and I only now realize just how many I have, I shall henceforth be detuning from channel 200, from Country channel and from '1 All' in the DA. If you want to talk to me either PM me in game or send me a forum message and I will supply you with the information for my channel on the GFC's Ventrillo server. I will have Ventrillo on whenever I fly. Any abusive PMs from anyone else and I'll have you squelched by the end of your first sentence and then report you.

It's high time this game returned to what it was originally all about.

I will respond to the large amount of PMs I have received over the next few days.




You can sanitize it and scrub out all references to the player that is your source.

Come on, man.  Everyone likes a good witch hunt.  There is certainly enough finger-pointing to go around these days.  Why not go full soap-opera mode?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 20, 2013, 01:22:00 PM
Burn the Witch!!!!!! :old: :old: :old: :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on June 20, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
Burn the Witch!!!!!! :old: :old: :old: :old:

 :lol
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on June 20, 2013, 01:56:26 PM
You can sanitize it and scrub out all references to the player that is your source.

Come on, man.  Everyone likes a good witch hunt.  There is certainly enough finger-pointing to go around these days.  Why not go full soap-opera mode?

I can't do that VonMessa, I gave my word.

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on June 20, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
I can't do that VonMessa, I gave my word.



I'm glad you've been vindicated.  Your eyes and experience didn't fail you.  I wonder if Badboy will try to learn new dance moves now.

And will someone PLEASE tell me who Quendi was?? 
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 20, 2013, 05:46:36 PM
Its not me!! :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: SkyRock on June 20, 2013, 07:05:39 PM
I'm glad you've been vindicated.  Your eyes and experience didn't fail you.  I wonder if Badboy will try to learn new dance moves now.

And will someone PLEASE tell me who Quendi was?? 
Quendi reminded me of Badboy....  just from the zeal he had while anklehumping my location in the MA... just sayin... 
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Nathan60 on June 20, 2013, 09:37:27 PM
Burn the Witch!!!!!! :old: :old: :old: :old:
Does he weigh the same as a duck?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Devil 505 on June 20, 2013, 10:03:49 PM
Does he weigh the same as a duck?
He turned me into a newt!













I got better.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: uptown on June 20, 2013, 10:32:54 PM
I've been in this game for 7 years and have never seen these people. Where in the hell do they hide to cause this much fuss?  :huh


nevermind, i dont care
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 21, 2013, 01:21:25 AM
Does he weigh the same as a duck?

Yes Yes Yes answer the question answer the question!!!!! :old

Burn the Witch!  :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 21, 2013, 09:24:53 AM
Accusing people publicly and providing no facts in support is equivalent to starting rumours.  Your apology was appropriate since you finally admitted you had no supporting hard facts.  To then withdraw it and start down your previous public accusation path again is simply wrong and akin to rumour mongerring.

If you have an issue with someone' behaviour, take it up with HTC.  If they tell you there is no issue worth taking action on after reviewing your evidence, then deal with it privately.  If you insist on public accusations, then show public facts to support it.  What you did and are now doing is wrong.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on June 21, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
Your apology was appropriate since you finally admitted you had no supporting hard facts.

I did no such thing. I allowed for the possibility that the pilot in Badboy's training film wasn't Badboy.


If you have an issue with someone' behaviour, take it up with HTC.  If they tell you there is no issue worth taking action on after reviewing your evidence, then deal with it privately.  If you insist on public accusations, then show public facts to support it.  What you did and are now doing is wrong.


You are completely out of your depth.

So wrapped up in-game reputations are you that you prefer to assume I have nothing because that maintains your mental model of what the world of Aces High is. Does your present model even allow you to consider the implications and consequences if I am right?  Or is that prospect too much to bear for what it would do to your tragically rigid worship of your FPHs?

You are not sufficiently well adjusted to discuss this matter with.








Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 21, 2013, 10:51:39 AM
How much do you weigh Shida just answer the question!!! :old:

He is a witch i am telling you!

 
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 21, 2013, 10:57:16 AM
I did no such thing. I allowed for the possibility that the pilot in Badboy's training film wasn't Badboy.



You are completely out of your depth.

So wrapped up in-game reputations are you that you prefer to assume I have nothing because that maintains your mental model of what the world of Aces High is. Does your present model even allow you to consider the implications and consequences if I am right?  Or is that prospect too much to bear for what it would do to your tragically rigid worship of your FPHs?

You are not sufficiently well adjusted to discuss this matter with.


I said you have provided no supporting hard facts.  You haven't, and even though you now claim you have some recently received new fact, you won't provide it to support your public accusation which at the time you made it, you weren't even in possession of this supposed unrevealed new fact.

Again, that is just wrong.  Hopefully one day you'll realize it.  

Prove Gunzo is Badboy as you so vehemently and publicly claimed with so much vitriol...

here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625003.html#msg4625003
and here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625597.html#msg4625597

... or be quiet about it.

If you can't, since we don't really know each other... it doesn't much matter to me anyway anymore what you say or think... since the credibility of your words with me has dropped materially.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: kappa on June 21, 2013, 11:19:50 AM
midway,

he doesnt have to prove anything to you.. nrshida is extremely aware of what is fact and fiction.. he knows he did the right thing and that is enough.. you can go on thinking however you wish.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 21, 2013, 11:22:56 AM
midway,

he doesnt have to prove anything to you.. nrshida is extremely aware of what is fact and fiction.. he knows he did the right thing and that is enough.. you can go on thinking however you wish.

 :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on June 21, 2013, 11:25:40 AM
it doesn't much matter to me anyway anymore what you say or think...

Liberating. Isn't it?

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: 2bighorn on June 21, 2013, 11:57:06 AM
If anyone can prove to me that I'm wrong, and that Zippy/Gunzo is Badboy I will reduce my posting on BBS and ch200 to no more than one per week for the rest of this year.  Since you know I like to talk... that is a significant penalty I will submit myself to for being wrong.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 21, 2013, 12:18:18 PM


Bighorn, i don't know you either.  Sending me a PM with some words in it doesn't prove anything.   I too can send you a PM and type things that can look a certain way. Hard facts need to come from AH film which a player can't alter, from HTC directly, from Badboy himself or Gunzo saying things only the other and I would know.  Too many people on here have misled too many others for me to take a player's typed words as hard fact.

Pending hard facts that can not be manipulated, I have nothing more to say on this topic and wish you wouldn't have posted requiring my response.  I'll be enjoying the game now instead of further debating this topic with a player. :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: kappa on June 21, 2013, 12:37:38 PM
Bighorn, i don't know you either.  Sending me a PM with some words in it doesn't prove anything.   I too can send you a PM and type things that can look a certain way. Hard facts need to come from AH film which a player can't alter, from HTC directly, from Badboy himself or Gunzo saying things only the other and I would know.  Too many people on here have misled too many others for me to take a player's typed words as hard fact.

Pending hard facts that can not be manipulated, I have nothing more to say on this topic and wish you wouldn't have posted requiring my response.  I'll be enjoying the game now instead of further debating this topic with a player. :salute

lol

already had the film..

HTC not gonna weight in..

now we are left with a known liar and a fraud to come and say:  Hey, sorry but I'm a known liar and a fraud..

Gotcha!  :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: 2bighorn on June 21, 2013, 01:26:53 PM
Bighorn, i don't know you either.  Sending me a PM with some words in it doesn't prove anything.   I too can send you a PM and type things that can look a certain way. Hard facts need to come from AH film which a player can't alter, from HTC directly, from Badboy himself or Gunzo saying things only the other and I would know.  Too many people on here have misled too many others for me to take a player's typed words as hard fact.

Pending hard facts that can not be manipulated, I have nothing more to say on this topic and wish you wouldn't have posted requiring my response.  I'll be enjoying the game now instead of further debating this topic with a player. :salute

“Never miss a good chance to shut up.”
― Will Rogers
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: MickDono on June 21, 2013, 02:05:09 PM
 :cheers: Bighorn,

You still playing?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: 2bighorn on June 21, 2013, 02:08:32 PM
:cheers: Bighorn,

You still playing?

No, no itch yet either. Maybe sometime in the future...

How about you?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: sunfan1121 on June 21, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
"Sending me a PM with some words in it proves nothing" - midway, and every other illiterate idiot.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: MickDono on June 21, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
No, no itch yet either. Maybe sometime in the future...

How about you?

yeah still here.  Gimme a shout when it returns and ill help knock some rust off! 
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on June 21, 2013, 04:17:14 PM
(Bighorn will punch my cartoon face for this)

Midway,

Since you are all about pilot reputations and since you are a fan of Bruv, Levi and Grizz, I suggest you PM all three of these individuals with one question:

If Bighorn sent you a PM with words in, what is the possibility those words are 100% true?

I have no idea what Bighorn sent you but I know this.  It must have been factual...but don't trust me.  Ask your heros.  Of the three of them, I only know Grizz and I know for a fact he wouldn't lie about anything for any reason.   I will assume you've vetted Bruv and Levi accordingly.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 21, 2013, 05:08:39 PM


I have no idea what Bighorn sent you but I know this.  It must have been factual...but don't trust me. 


It was enough to make me see that I was incorrect in that TC is Gunzo but confirmed that TC was also stalking and griefing players as V1PER and MoJoRiZn.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: lengro on June 21, 2013, 05:35:22 PM
If Bighorn sent you a PM with words in, what is the possibility those words are 100% true?

From a pure probabilistic perspective, as certain as Bighorns handle at some point in time was Midway...    :t
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: danny76 on June 21, 2013, 05:46:39 PM
From a pure probabilistic perspective, as certain as Bighorns handle at some point in time was Midway...    :t

Probabilistic? That is my new supercalifragilisticespialido cious :banana:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: danny76 on June 21, 2013, 05:50:45 PM
Bighorn, i don't know you either.  Sending me a PM with some words in it doesn't prove anything.   I too can send you a PM and type things that can look a certain way. Hard facts need to come from AH film which a player can't alter, from HTC directly, from Badboy himself or Gunzo saying things only the other and I would know.  Too many people on here have misled too many others for me to take a player's typed words as hard fact.

Pending hard facts that can not be manipulated, I have nothing more to say on this topic and wish you wouldn't have posted requiring my response.  I'll be enjoying the game now instead of further debating this topic with a player. :salute

Have you ever considered the concept of desisting excavating when you can no longer see over the rim?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: morfiend on June 21, 2013, 05:59:17 PM
From a pure probabilistic perspective, as certain as Bighorns handle at some point in time was Midway...    :t

   :rofl :rofl :rofl

  I can assure you after flying with both that the present Midway could never be confused with Big from a flying aspect.


    :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 21, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
   :rofl :rofl :rofl

  I can assure you after flying with both that the present Midway could never be confused with Big from a flying aspect.


    :salute

 :)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Shifty on June 21, 2013, 06:55:57 PM
"Sending me a PM with some words in it proves nothing" - midway, and every other illiterate idiot.

 :rofl
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on June 21, 2013, 07:11:49 PM
   :rofl :rofl :rofl

  I can assure you after flying with both that the present Midway could never be confused with Big from a flying aspect.


    :salute

I love this guy!!
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 21, 2013, 07:28:55 PM
I love this guy!!

 :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Tupac on June 22, 2013, 06:17:21 PM
People like Badboy are the reason I quit.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on June 22, 2013, 06:33:15 PM
People like Badboy are the reason I quit.

Understood
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Oldman731 on June 22, 2013, 09:31:28 PM
People like Badboy are the reason I quit.


I suspect you've never met Badboy.

- oldman
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: uptown on June 22, 2013, 09:36:55 PM
People like Badboy are the reason I quit.
NO NO NO young man. Players that get to you like that should make you want to improve your skills and shoot them down. That's when the game really gets rewarding.  :devil

I've never met Badboy but I find it hard to believe the bad rumors about him as I haven't met a trainer yet that wasn't kind and helpful.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on June 22, 2013, 11:38:24 PM
NO NO NO young man. Players that get to you like that should make you want to improve your skills and shoot them down. That's when the game really gets rewarding.  :devil

I've never met Badboy but I find it hard to believe the bad rumors about him as I haven't met a trainer yet that wasn't kind and helpful.

 :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on June 23, 2013, 12:52:28 AM
NO NO NO young man. Players that get to you like that should make you want to improve your skills and shoot them down. That's when the game really gets rewarding.  :devil

I've never met Badboy but I find it hard to believe the bad rumors about him as I haven't met a trainer yet that wasn't kind and helpful.

Midway knows the truth....he may be choosing not to believe it but he's been around long enough to understand this game changes people
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: kappa on June 23, 2013, 01:09:09 AM

I've never met Badboy but I find it hard to believe the bad rumors about him as I haven't met a trainer yet that wasn't kind and helpful.

So, you're saying cause he had 'Trainer' typed by his name he has reached a level above other players and you can't see it happening?

see what I did there?   :eek:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on June 23, 2013, 01:14:20 AM
So, you're saying cause he had 'Trainer' typed by his name he has reached a level above other players and you can't see it happening?

see what I did there?   :eek:

1000th post!  You get BBS trainer by your name!
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: zack1234 on June 23, 2013, 04:32:56 AM

I suspect you've never met Badboy.

- oldman

I have never heard if him in game :old:

All these people who are awesome and never play the game. :rofl

195 in MA on a Saturday night, more people on the forums talk about AW and the good old days :rofl

I am so awesome I am awesome :old:

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 04, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
what a funny thread.........

it is a known fact I have flown as TC since 1994/1995   and since those begining years back in AW, I have also flown under numerous other alias cpids or gameids, etc.......

all it has ever taken was for me to speak on local range vox or a tuned vox channel and people instantly knew who I was, regardless of the callsign i was flying under


too funny, AkAk, your bait isn't any good...... neither is LCADolby's  bait.......

I have never stalked nor griefed another player regardless of what handle I was flying as............ shoot them down, yes I did that......... grief or stalk them ..... never........


and after a decade+  all anyone on these boards has ever been able to do is STIR A RUMOR, try to start a witch hunt, or toss out felonious information to have others repeat it, read it, re peat it, etc..... till the crap becomes some type of urban mythical BS.......

what is so funy though is, I been here since beta in 1999, and this is the first time people have assumed or tryed to accuse me of being someone/something I am not........  :rofl

edit:  MoJoRiZn  and VlPER   I played the game as......... shot some of you down........ but I never really smack talked you nor rubbed me shooting down your cartoon plane in your face......  I acknowledge a good fight if it was and seldomly nothing else......... I only get to smackin mouthly after I have been drinking Tequila or Scotch or Jameson or Crown Royal or shine....... and I seldom drink anymore anyhows.......

I'll be back soon...... my health has kept me down since late may/early June......

hope everyone has been doing ok and are well, familys and all during my absence from the AH Boards , game and email/internet  :old:     :cheers:

TC
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Bear76 on September 04, 2013, 01:05:02 AM
what a funny thread.........

it is a known fact I have flown as TC since 1994/1995   and since those begining years back in AW, I have also flown under numerous other alias cpids or gameids, etc.......

all it has ever taken was for me to speak on local range vox or a tuned vox channel and people instantly knew who I was, regardless of the callsign i was flying under


too funny, AkAk, your bait isn't any good...... neither is LCADolby's  bait.......

I have never stalked nor griefed another player regardless of what handle I was flying as............ shoot them down, yes I did that......... grief or stalk them ..... never........


and after a decade+  all anyone on these boards has ever been able to do is STIR A RUMOR, try to start a witch hunt, or toss out felonious information to have others repeat it, read it, re peat it, etc..... till the crap becomes some type of urban mythical BS.......

what is so funy though is, I been here since beta in 1999, and this is the first time people have assumed or tryed to accuse me of being someone/something I am not........  :rofl

edit:  MoJoRiZn  and VlPER   I played the game as......... shot some of you down........ but I never really smack talked you nor rubbed me shooting down your cartoon plane in your face......  I acknowledge a good fight if it was and seldomly nothing else......... I only get to smackin mouthly after I have been drinking Tequila or Scotch or Jameson or Crown Royal or shine....... and I seldom drink anymore anyhows.......

I'll be back soon...... my health has kept me down since late may/early June......

hope everyone has been doing ok and are well, familys and all during my absence from the AH Boards , game and email/internet  :old:     :cheers:

TC

Wow, a 2 month old dead horse comes to life.  :confused:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Triton28 on September 04, 2013, 01:17:16 AM
I apologize to Bear76 for disclosing the nasty things he does with his Hot Pockets while he flies.  Forgive me?   :pray
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Vudu15 on September 04, 2013, 01:35:45 AM
lol in the world of the internet anyone can be anyone.....just fly, how do you know you were really talking to Midway?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Triton28 on September 04, 2013, 07:08:50 AM
lol in the world of the internet anyone can be anyone.....just fly, how do you know you were really talking to Midway?

(http://imgur.com/xlztP.jpg)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Tinkles on September 04, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
(http://imgur.com/xlztP.jpg)

 :lol :rofl

Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: LCADolby on September 04, 2013, 07:31:51 AM
V1PER, you're a loony.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: dedalos on September 04, 2013, 11:19:27 AM
 :rofl this is a joke right?  TC would never do anything like that. Badboy on the other hand .... sounds about right. Looks like Midway pulled a good one this time :lol

in any case, it is easy to find out. Just duel them. Badboy had a broken stick that makes him run in circles.   :lol
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Megalodon on September 04, 2013, 11:38:55 AM
I always thought this was interesting
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/badboy1_zpsb3496567.jpg)


Hey Bad,
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on September 04, 2013, 04:31:37 PM
These days Badboy aka Sharky aka BigBLUE aka something else hangs in the DA a lot.  If he doesn't like what he's seeing there, he uses his other accounts to track you in the MA...until you tell everyone around you which Spit he's flying and he'll be at 18K.  He's not well...

I love the film feature....
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 04, 2013, 06:45:52 PM
lol in the world of the internet anyone can be anyone.....just fly, how do you know you were really talking to Midway?

Because it really is me.  I have my good name "Midway" back! :banana:

Thank you Gunzo, whomever you are... for staying to your word and giving it back. :salute :rock

And I want to again publicly thank Vudu15 for his motivational videos, especially since I discovered one of my new fav songs on a Vudu15 tanking video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUiBHfOhbU :x

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3kSPHcjN34

Vudu15 :salute :rock
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 04, 2013, 07:12:43 PM
I always thought this was interesting
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/badboy1_zpsb3496567.jpg)


Hey Bad,


www.netaces.org/badboy/Midway.pdf

A very good read, written by a very good man, awesome contributor, and indeed a very good Spitfire pilot. :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Hajo on September 04, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
These posts are utterly ridiculous.  Reading this reminds me of a group of old women at a gab fest.  A lot of words spoken and nothing said.

I've known TC for around 20 years, I used to fly a lot with the damned back in AW many years ago. He has always been a gentleman.

He will help anyone with any problem they may have regarding the game itself or the PC if you are having difficulties running the game.

I wonder if there is a BBS on the WEB that is idiot proof? 

I'm just sorry he had to read and respond to this drivel.  Childish accusations to say the least.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Arlo on September 04, 2013, 07:31:37 PM
TC's good people.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 04, 2013, 07:55:51 PM
These posts are utterly ridiculous.  Reading this reminds me of a group of old women at a gab fest.  A lot of words spoken and nothing said.

I've known TC for around 20 years, I used to fly a lot with the damned back in AW many years ago. He has always been a gentleman.

He will help anyone with any problem they may have regarding the game itself or the PC if you are having difficulties running the game.

I wonder if there is a BBS on the WEB that is idiot proof? 

I'm just sorry he had to read and respond to this drivel.  Childish accusations to say the least.

Indeed. :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Hap on September 04, 2013, 08:01:03 PM
I wonder if there is a BBS on the WEB that is idiot proof? 

I'm just sorry he had to read and respond to this drivel.  Childish accusations to say the least.
:aok :aok :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 04, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
These days Badboy aka Sharky aka BigBLUE aka something else hangs in the DA a lot.  If he doesn't like what he's seeing there, he uses his other accounts to track you in the MA...until you tell everyone around you which Spit he's flying and he'll be at 18K.  He's not well...

I love the film feature....

I will admit to having dueled Bigblue several times, a very very good pilot, that pwns me silly.  He is very patient in his fights and drains my energy like pulling the plug on a sink and watches my E slowly go down the drain.   Then I'm just a slow piece of low hanging fruit for him to pick out of the sky just above ground level.  Very smart and very nice pilot.  I could duel him all day, but he'd get bored. :frown:

I wish I was as good and smart as Bigblue.  Maybe one day. :pray
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: dedalos on September 04, 2013, 09:49:46 PM

I wish I was as good and smart as Bigblue.  Maybe one day. :pray

nah, you cant fix stupid lol

Although I have to hand it to ya. Probably one of the best trolls ever.

<S>  :rofl
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Megalodon on September 04, 2013, 11:18:07 PM

www.netaces.org/badboy/Midway.pdf

A very good read, written by a very good man, awesome contributor,



and indeed a very good Spitfire pilot. :aok


 :lol

I can show you where he has not be so nice if you wish  :t



I don't know about very good but good enough to look Bad ...if need be ..... :aok

Don't you want to post the others?

This 1 would be timely,

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/badboy2_zps9f59c938.jpg)



Tell Bad hello for me next time you see him,



 :cheers:


Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: nrshida on September 04, 2013, 11:21:48 PM
I wonder if there is a BBS on the WEB that is idiot proof? 


Apparently not since TC isn't the primary subject of this thread.


Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: BaldEagl on September 04, 2013, 11:30:21 PM
Accusing people publicly and providing no facts in support is equivalent to starting rumours.  Your apology was appropriate since you finally admitted you had no supporting hard facts.  To then withdraw it and start down your previous public accusation path again is simply wrong and akin to rumour mongerring.

If you have an issue with someone' behaviour, take it up with HTC.  If they tell you there is no issue worth taking action on after reviewing your evidence, then deal with it privately.  If you insist on public accusations, then show public facts to support it.  What you did and are now doing is wrong.

You know absolutely nothing about the long time reputations of players built over a decade and a half or more.  That being the case you should sit quietly on the sidelines.

TC is actually a hell of a fun guy while Badboy is known to do exactly what was described. But at the end of the day, who cares? We all get wrapped up in AH world a bit too much for our own good and Shida is about as stand up as they come in my book.  :salute Shida.

^ This.

I've known for a long time TC flys under shades but who cares?  He's even mentioned it on the BBs before.  Every time I've fought him it's been fun and have never seen anyhing dubious in it.

While there's no mistaking Badboy's contributions to the game there's also no escaping his in game reputation.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Megalodon on September 04, 2013, 11:45:50 PM

Apparently not since TC isn't the primary subject of this thread.



Does secondary count?...

 Lets help Tequila Chaser in on this.........

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/badboy3_zps6da625d2.jpg)



Hey TC,
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 05, 2013, 12:02:40 AM
Does secondary count?...

 Lets help Tequila Chaser in on this.........

(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/badboy3_zps6da625d2.jpg)



Hey TC,

 :D  Heya Megalodon

I got all those old proofs and drafts......  including this one in it's entirety.......

people will have their opinions, those who know me and have known me, know how I feel about the game and community, I need not post anything else.....

cheers

TC
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Megalodon on September 05, 2013, 12:06:00 AM
:D  Heya Megalodon

I got all those old proofs and drafts......  including this one in it's entirety.......

people will have their opinions, those who know me and have known me, know how I feel about the game and community, I need not post anything else.....

cheers

TC
Amazing how fast you came out of the woodwork  ;)

 I have them all In Pdf .... I figure Bad will post the rest  :rofl ... If he didn't delete them already

 :cheers:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 05, 2013, 12:37:01 AM
Nah, a good friend sent me a pm back on June 19th.... But I did not see it until last evening..

I have been down with my health since May/June and just logged in to the bbs yesterday after being off the grid ( phones, email, internet, bbs and game since April/may ... I did check the bbs once on June 6th.. but absent since then until yesterday...

I have a bunch of pm's to reply to, along with a bunch of emails..... I just don't want to bother anyone with my health issues.... Most close friends already know I've been dealing with health/physical disability since 2003... No need to burden any of you with it or me... We all got our on real life situations to worry about....

I would have responded/replyed the day all this stuff was first posted if I had been physically able to do so...

Cheers

TC
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: doc1kelley on September 05, 2013, 11:15:55 AM
These posts are utterly ridiculous.  Reading this reminds me of a group of old women at a gab fest.  A lot of words spoken and nothing said.

I've known TC for around 20 years, I used to fly a lot with the damned back in AW many years ago. He has always been a gentleman.

He will help anyone with any problem they may have regarding the game itself or the PC if you are having difficulties running the game.

I wonder if there is a BBS on the WEB that is idiot proof? 

I'm just sorry he had to read and respond to this drivel.  Childish accusations to say the least.

I have also known Johnny for almost as long as you Hajo and I also have known him to be a completely honorable person that has always been there to help in all ways.  TC may get miffed at me but he has headed a project for years in collecting PC parts from players and redistributing them to upgrade their PC's to assist them in being able to maintain a system for them to be able to fly with a fully functional system.  TC doesn't like the limelight and has always done this under the covers, so to speak.  He used to devote a lot of his time to training folks but like a lot of us old timers, well we are starting to fall apart.  This guy has been living on a fixed income and has been distributing all these parts to folks at his own expense and expects nothing in return.  It's frigging sad that his good name (and not good name as Midway would spout about, but a REAL good name), has been smeared in this thread.  It is really really sad!  It's true that the lunatics are running the asylum. :-(

All the Best to TC who I consider a good friend!  :salute

                       Jay
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Drano on September 05, 2013, 11:30:22 AM
I've known TC for years as well. He was one of my early mentors in AW. A long time trainer in both AW and AH. Always quick to help guys in need with PC parts. I mean what a monumental POS that guy is! Right? <facetious mode>

I've known Badboy just about as long and also have a large collection of his training guides. Great stuff that had to take some time to put together. And why? Thought he might help some people out making their game experience a little better I guess. Another POS! <facetious mode>

Both of these guys have killed me many times over the years. As it should be. I just smile, <S> and grab another free plane from the hangar. How hard is that?
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Debrody on September 05, 2013, 12:00:20 PM
TC is known as a good-willing and friendly person. Badboy, not too much.
Bighorn has evidence on Badboy's trolling business, if thats enough. If you trust in Bighorn.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: LCADolby on September 05, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
Having seen his antics as V1PER first hand, I refute any niceties sent TCs way.

He's as nutty as fruitcake. :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 05, 2013, 01:33:33 PM
TC is known as a good-willing and friendly person. Badboy, not too much.
Bighorn has evidence on Badboy's trolling business, if thats enough. If you trust in Bighorn.

Bighorn emailed me his evidence. It's not convincing. I can type numbers with periods in an email too. :rolleyes:

Fact is Badboy's forum posts (hundreds) are awesome, better than almost anyone else.  :angel:

Fact is Badboy's been very nice in EVERY interaction I've had with him. He teaches, is patient, and fun.  :angel:

Fact is TC himself said Badboy is above such nonsense and having read all of Badboy's posts, I see that also. :angel:

Triple fact proof that false disparagements and impugnations are, in fact, wrong with respect to Badboy. :old:

Wrong indeed. :old:

Oh, and fact is the one time I ask Bighorn for help, he told me he was too advanced for me and to work with morfiend instead.  :huh

So, given the above undisputed facts I have witnessed with my own eyes... well... nuff said.  :)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on September 05, 2013, 03:33:45 PM
Bighorn emailed me his evidence. It's not convincing. I can type numbers with periods in an email too. :rolleyes:

Fact is Badboy's forum posts (hundreds) are awesome, better than almost anyone else.  :angel:

Fact is Badboy's been very nice in EVERY interaction I've had with him. He teaches, is patient, and fun.  :angel:

Fact is TC himself said Badboy is above such nonsense and having read all of Badboy's posts, I see that also. :angel:

Triple fact proof that false disparagements and impugnations are, in fact, wrong with respect to Badboy. :old:

Wrong indeed. :old:

Oh, and fact is the one time I ask Bighorn for help, he told me he was too advanced for me and to work with morfiend instead.  :huh

So, given the above undisputed facts I have witnessed with my own eyes... well... nuff said.  :)

That was Bighorns way of saying, "I don't work with full-grown adult children" in a nice but insulting way.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Arlo on September 05, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
That was Bighorns way of saying, "I don't work with full-grown adult children" in a nice but insulting way.

That may need a re-phrasing. It seems to infer that there are children he may prefer.  ;)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Slash27 on September 05, 2013, 04:12:20 PM
Oh, and fact is the one time I ask Bighorn for help, he told me he was too advanced for me and to work with morfiend instead.  :huh
:rofl
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 05, 2013, 04:43:19 PM
That was Bighorns way of saying, "I don't work with full-grown adult children" in a nice but insulting way.

I must correct the record. Bighorn reminded me that I actually did ask him for help a second time via BBS pm several months later, but he said he wasn't subscribed at that time.  I was referring to the first and only time I had ask him in person in the TA when he was in the air.

Now, more than nuff said.  :)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Max on September 05, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
TC...sorry to hear about your health issues, bud.

Dunno how you were dragged into this pile of horse poo but I'll vouch for you all day long.

Best wishes!
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on September 05, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
That may need a re-phrasing. It seems to infer that there are children he may prefer.  ;)

It doesn't need re-phrasing...everyone knew what I meant including Midway
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 05, 2013, 05:46:05 PM
It doesn't need re-phrasing...everyone knew what I meant including Midway

<3

 :)

 :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Brooke on September 05, 2013, 05:50:27 PM
TC, my best wishes for your health.  Also, if you are back to the game a bit, I hope that you can join us in the upcoming Battle of Britain scenario.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: morfiend on September 05, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
 Since my name was mentioned...... Big was not a trainer at the time and merely directed midway to me as I was a trainer in the TA at the time.



     :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Arlo on September 05, 2013, 06:00:22 PM
It doesn't need re-phrasing...everyone knew what I meant including Midway

Ah, but you saw it, right? It's ok to laugh. Seriously.  ;)
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: hlbly on September 05, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
Nrshida will one day rank up there with bighorn and tc . Both of these cats are the best. Midway notice how Nrshida can admit when he is wrong. Lesson there.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: BaldEagl on September 05, 2013, 09:39:28 PM
Now that we've established that everyone in the game is everyone else and there's only one player lets stop this and go play with ourselves.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Fulcrum on September 05, 2013, 10:35:45 PM
....lets...go play with ourselves.

This is a suggestion I believe everyone can agree on!  :D :aok
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Scherf on September 05, 2013, 10:37:18 PM
I once picked up a pound coin off the street and kept it without thought to finding the original owner...  :old:

"It's a outrage!"
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Estes on September 06, 2013, 01:00:31 AM
Nrshida can best me dueling, and he's a stand up gent to boot.  :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Bear76 on September 06, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
Nrshida can best me dueling, and he's a stand up gent to boot.  :salute

Hey bud, been awhile  :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: aztec on September 06, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
Now that we've established that everyone in the game is everyone else and there's only one player lets stop this and go play with ourselves.

My glasses are as thick as armored glass...I have to shave my palms 3 times a day....Hell Yeah!!
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 07, 2013, 02:04:21 PM
Nrshida will one day rank up there with bighorn and tc . Both of these cats are the best. Midway notice how Nrshida can admit when he is wrong. Lesson there.

Well, I do like Nrshida a lot, but... unfortunately... his admission only lasted a day, he then fell back to his previous way: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350150.msg4627442.html#msg4627442 :frown:

Results of considering one's way should last long term and is much more admirable than considering one's way for a day and then falling back to the use of said false impugnations, disparagements, and unjust besmirchment... especially when so many facts (as already provided) point the other way and Nrshida offers no proof. :huh

Considering one's way is an investment that should result in more than a single day's return on said investment. :old:
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: 2bighorn on September 07, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
Trollololol...

Oh, and fact is the one time I ask Bighorn for help, he told me he was too advanced for me and to work with morfiend instead.  :huh

Accusing people publicly and providing no facts in support is equivalent to starting rumours...  To then withdraw it and start down your previous public accusation path again is simply wrong and akin to rumour mongerring.

If you have an issue with someone' behaviour, take it up with HTC.  If they tell you there is no issue worth taking action on after reviewing your evidence, then deal with it privately.  If you insist on public accusations, then show public facts to support it.  What you did and are now doing is wrong.

...some words in it doesn't prove anything...
Hard facts need to come from AH film which a player can't alter, from HTC directly...
Too many people on here have misled too many others for me to take a player's typed words as hard fact...

Pending hard facts that can not be manipulated, I have nothing more to say on this topic and wish you wouldn't have posted requiring my response.  I'll be enjoying the game now instead of further debating this topic with a player. :salute

You should find a new hobby, trolling is not what you're good at.


Results of considering one's way should last long term and is much more admirable than considering one's way for a day and then falling back to the use of said false impugnations, disparagements, and unjust besmirchment... especially when so many facts (as already provided) point the other way and Nrshida offers no proof. :huh

It would be nearly perfect description of yourself, little troll. That is, if you'd know what you're writing about.  I suggest you stick with excessive usage of emoticons, as it appears, meaning of words is not your forte.


Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 07, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
Trollololol...

You should find a new hobby, trolling is not what you're good at.


It would be nearly perfect description of yourself, little troll. That is, if you'd know what you're writing about.  I suggest you stick with excessive usage of emoticons, as it appears, meaning of words is not your forte.




I stand by all words and concepts you quoted. :aok

Further, I'm not "trolling" and your name calling and attempted disparagement of my honest opinions, facts, and views speaks volumes.

Consider your way, bighorn. :old:

Now, back to the topic at hand.  The good name and reputation of Badboy, an awesome trainer, pilot, and person. :aok

One, by the way whom has gone out of his way to help me, scheduled time with me in the TA, etc...  A good man with strength of character and awesome contributions.  A good and awesome man/pilot/contributor indeed. :salute :rock
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Widewing on September 07, 2013, 06:03:32 PM
I stand by all words and concepts you quoted. :aok

Further, I'm not "trolling" and your name calling and attempted disparagement of my honest opinions, facts, and views speaks volumes.

Consider your way, bighorn. :old:

Now, back to the topic at hand.  The good name and reputation of Badboy, an awesome trainer, pilot, and person. :aok

One, by the way whom has gone out of his way to help me, scheduled time with me in the TA, etc...  A good man with strength of character and awesome contributions.  A good and awesome man/pilot/contributor indeed. :salute :rock

Midway, I've never had any issues with badboy. Just the opposite.

Nonetheless, I have great respect for 2bighorn. If he says something is fishy, I'm inclined to listen. 2bighorn has been a good friend over the years, and I've never known him to go off half-cocked. My thoughts on badboy are simple... One aw sh*t offsets many ata-boys. I would love to believe that badboy hasn't been the problem described... However, there's a lot of people who I respect and appreciate who believe he has been a big problem. You cannot dismiss these complaints, as much as you'd really like to.

To quote Lincoln when he tried to put on his boots and found a mouse in one.... "I'd say there's something in it."
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: 2bighorn on September 07, 2013, 06:20:57 PM
I stand by all words and concepts you quoted. :aok

Unfortunately for all of us, evidence suggests otherwise...


Further, I'm not "trolling"

Just because you're inept at it doesn't mean you're not trolling.


and your name calling and attempted disparagement of my honest opinions, facts, and views speaks volumes.

If your opinion would actually matter, you wouldn't have to endlessly repeat how honest and factual your opinions are.


Consider your way, bighorn. :old:

I've already passed the finish line and somewhere you have taken the wrong turn. Consider the GPS, Midway...



Now, back to the topic at hand.  The good name and reputation of Badboy, an awesome trainer, pilot, and person. :aok

One, by the way whom has gone out of his way to help me, scheduled time with me in the TA, etc...  A good man with strength of character and awesome contributions.  A good and awesome man/pilot/contributor indeed. :salute :rock

Indeed, nothing against Badboy, a true community asset.

But then, there's a very "Strange Case of Dr Badboy and Mr Gunzo". Not that I care much about, I just can't let pitiful little troll like you vituperate an upstanding person as NrShida is. All that in favor of a person who is proven griefer, whether is that Badboy himself, or his alleged son Gunzo. Either way, it's Badboy's responsibility to clean up.

And before you start screaming here again like a spoiled toddler, let's just say that nobody owes you any explanation, or evidence, or anything else for that matter. If and when we do, even when directed at you, it is not because of you nor it is for you. It's for everybody else but you, you got that, little troll?

 
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 07, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
Midway, I've never had any issues with badboy. Just the opposite.

Nonetheless, I have great respect for 2bighorn. If he says something is fishy, I'm inclined to listen. 2bighorn has been a good friend over the years, and I've never known him to go off half-cocked. My thoughts on badboy are simple... One aw sh*t offsets many ata-boys. I would love to believe that badboy hasn't been the problem described... However, there's a lot of people who I respect and appreciate who believe he has been a big problem. You cannot dismiss these complaints, as much as you'd really like to.

To quote Lincoln when he tried to put on his boots and found a mouse in one.... "I'd say there's something in it."

Then they should go to HTC with proof, like you (and I) have said.  I have not seen any proof, don't really care to see any as that is an HTC activity, but what got to me is nrshida (see below) and others going off on someone I've known to be a great contributor and trainer who has helped me, been very nice, and has gone out of his way for me, as well as contributes so much good in his posting history.   And then trying to drag TC down, also a trainer, who likely has done so much good for so many.  

Hard for me to be silent when I have myself benefited from what Badboy freely gives to me and us.  Nrshida simply disappointed me with his severe diatribe and no proof, and I frankly don't know bighorn, other than the one in person interaction I had with him on the TA and then here on BBS. But I do trust your judgement on him and will ignore my past brief negative encounter with him.  

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625003.html#msg4625003
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625597.html#msg4625597
and here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350150.msg4627442.html#msg4627442

 :salute Widewing
 :salute Bighorn
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 07, 2013, 06:27:22 PM
Unfortunately for all of us, evidence suggests otherwise...


Just because you're inept at it doesn't mean you're not trolling.


If your opinion would actually matter, you wouldn't have to endlessly repeat how honest and factual your opinions are.


I've already passed the finish line and somewhere you have taken the wrong turn. Consider the GPS, Midway...



Indeed, nothing against Badboy, a true community asset.

But then, there's a very "Strange Case of Dr Badboy and Mr Gunzo". Not that I care much about, I just can't let pitiful little troll like you vituperate an upstanding person as NrShida is. All that in favor of a person who is proven griefer, whether is that Badboy himself, or his alleged son Gunzo. Either way, it's Badboy's responsibility to clean up.

And before you start screaming here again like a spoiled toddler, let's just say that nobody owes you any explanation, or evidence, or anything else for that matter. If and when we do, even when directed at you, it is not because of you nor it is for you. It's for everybody else but you, you got that, little troll?

 

 :huh    :bhead
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Max on September 07, 2013, 07:14:09 PM
Now would be a good time to end it, Midway.
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 07, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
Now would be a good time to end it, Midway.

 :salute
Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Changeup on September 10, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
Now would be a good time to end it, Midway.

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Title: Re: A Public Apology to Badboy
Post by: Midway on September 10, 2013, 07:58:17 PM
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 :huh