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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Skuzzy on February 24, 2014, 03:58:14 PM
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This is a preview of a new ad we are going to use at Youtube. Our goal is to put it up tomorrow, but we though we would share it with the community first.
http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/films/ad3.mp4
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Im glad it's only going on youtube and that you're not paying to place that... that was kind of rough to watch.
No offense intended.
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Yeah, bring it Bob!
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TBM! :joystick:
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Im glad it's only going on youtube and that you're not paying to place that... that was kind of rough to watch.
No offense intended.
I'm in the same boat. I applaud the time and effort it took to come up with an ad, and I know that coming up with an advertisement isn't very easy. The thing about ADs is who knows what will work and what won't...we're all different!
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Doesnt work Skuzzy. Im not going to BS you.
Im an ex events vidog. It looks like it took you 5 mins to paste it together.
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Not bad. The massed B17's has a nice "oh wow" effect. The video didn't showcase enough of what Aces High has to offer. I can only hope and assume that more videos are on the way. :aok
I would have used some of newer modeled planes "in action", such as the Mossi FB Mk IV strafing town buildings, or a Spitfire Mk IX vs a 109G-14, or a Ki43 vs a P40C, or even having Lancasters dropping bombs and fending off Luftwaffe fighters.
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No BS...it sucked.
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Looks like something I could put together..... and I suck!
Why not let the players on the board now "what" your looking for. What you "need" in an ad, be specific and then see what they can come up with. We have some pretty talented folk here who I'm sure would love to put something together to help out.
You guys "direct" let them "create".
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I read the posts before watching the commercial. I thought cmon it can't be that bad..
It is. Sorry way too corny.
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no fighters, no combat....bunch of bombers flying around..... I'm not sure what to even say about it. :bhead
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Strange ad to say the least :headscratch:
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Looks like something I could put together..... and I suck!
Why not let the players on the board now "what" your looking for. What you "need" in an ad, be specific and then see what they can come up with. We have some pretty talented folk here who I'm sure would love to put something together to help out.
You guys "direct" let them "create".
That's what I was thinking Fugi. I've always loved marketing and advertising (of course that was more back in high school), but my video editing skills are null.
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I don't know, its missing fighter planes and action and explosions and air combat! I had to listen to it with no sound and it looked more like ending credits to a movie than a way to promote what the game has to offer. I think you'd have a better time if you used peoples videos and combinded certain parts from each film wit some suspensful music. But this looks pretty unflattering to say the least.
Love you guys so keep on going. We are here for you!
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That....Was...not so good... awful i think..
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Since only ONE other person pointed it out...UPDATED TBM!!! :x
Alone, that ad was bad. You MUST pair it with something else, or alone you have accomplished a waste of time. After the mentioning of doing a sortie in the end, you switch to in-game action of dogfights, bomber intercept, bombing of strats, etc.
You have to catch the attention of folks a bit sooner. Leading with in-game dog fighting, a massive furball if possible before heading into what's posted here, then ending with more in-game footage. The beginning of this ad could start differently with mention of the beginning furball, then some how work it's way into what you did. End it with more in-game footage of what other things are in AH; GV mission/fight, bombing of strats with bombers being intercepted, PT boats attacking a TG, etc.
But I did get a bit of a laugh out of it. :aok
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Like the rest, truth is you missed the boat on this one. Badly!
You need action that makes you want to jump in the middle of it. Even showing a P38 engine start one engine at a time would be cooler with a cut in voice. "Wind'em up guys. Let's go get them."
Then the Aces high logo.
Short sweet and begs the viewer to look your website up.
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This is a preview of a new ad we are going to use at Youtube. Our goal is to put it up tomorrow, but we though we would share it with the community first.
http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/films/ad3.mp4
Good effort. However, I don't think it did a fair shake on what is in the game.
130 objects... like what? It doesn't really mention anything in the game, just generalizing them as 'objects'. The b17 bomber formation part was good, but it doesn't show any actual combat.
I think what might be best for HTC is for a 'fan-base' video thing. Fans create HD 'commercials' and submit them to HTC to be reviewed. I think it would be beneficiary to have a less than 1 minute commercial and a 2 minute one for a more.. 'formal' view on the game. That could explain in more detail what you can do in-game.
Just what I would do.
Fighters dog-fighting, scissors with someone getting a kill, (5 seconds), switches to a fighter dive-bombing on a base, destroying something significant (5 seconds), switches to another fighter shooting at bombers, switch to bomber-gunner perspective, on shooting down one fighter. (10 seconds), 2nd fighter comes up on the previously mentioned bomber, and shoots one in the formation down. Bomber releases bombs *camera follows bombs*, bombs hit target. (5-10 seconds). Mentions ground combat, shows an outerview (as if you are the enemy) of a tank, then the commander/gunsight view of that tank, tank fires, hits another tank, quick view on hit tank as it explodes. Plane flies overhead shoots at tank, wirble/osti/m16 is then shown from external view, then gunsight as it shoots down the plane. Camera switches to jeeps and m3s/251s storming a town and releasing troops. (15-25 seconds) . Mentions of naval battles, shows an f5 view of 2 fleets having at it, f6fs and a6ms duking it out, PT boats and HE111s using torpedoes on ships, then seeing the results of the torpedos. Showing LVTs and perhaps landing craft ( :pray ) as troops run from the beach to the town. Then about 10 seconds of switching between different planes "we have over this many of planes, tanks etc".., switching to Me262, 163, typh etc at least 10 different planes in a 5 second span. Then it shows a P51-D flying into the sunset and the Aces High logo appears at the top, as the p51-d flies underneath the logo into the sunset.
ACES HIGH
Are you ready to play?
^^
This would be the short one.
That's how I would do it, if I had an editing software I'd make it now :)
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it's confusing.
semp
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I feel it is probably meant to be supplemental, not a mainline ad for a TV spot or anything.
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Didn't like it.
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What they are trying to get across is the strengths of AHII versus the competition. As these strengths are fairly subtle, it will take some cleverness.
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Ah, wasn't this a violation of rule 4? No trolling :lol
I must say, I was disappointed in everything except the massed bomber scene.
And what the heck is BKR or whatever that splash screen said?
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Who decided a sexy female voice over was a bad idea?
14 years of continuous refinement might sound better than development.
It needs to end with fighter vs bomber kill shots.
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I feel it is probably meant to be supplemental, not a mainline ad for a TV spot or anything.
Regardless it is promoting our game and frankly, that was embarrassing to watch and listen to. The narration is hard to listen to in itself and when was the last time someone said "over 130 player controlled objects" and you thought to yourself… yes.. that game is for me.
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I won't deny that this is mostly true. However, the idea is getting across what AHII brings to the table but Il2 or WT do NOT, and those things are subtle, making a clever 60 second ad a tough challenge for the team.
Regardless it is promoting our game and frankly, that was embarrassing to watch and listen to. The narration is hard to listen to in itself and when was the last time someone said "over 130 player controlled objects" and you thought to yourself… yes.. that game is for me.
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Looks like a bit of a tongue'n'cheek sort of thing....if it is a part of a number of small ad....(I believe it was said earlier that there were going to be small ads of different aspects for the you tube channel).... then it was ok...a little uninformative.... overall it looked nicely done...just a little lacking from my untrained eye....the one thing I don't agree with however....is showing the comparison of then and now...I don't believe it is necessary and detracts from what it is now....which for me is what I would be looking for...the now....not what it was like...
That is all
P.S How many PM's did you get......have you got a lot of offers on the table yet guys...I like your way of thinking hahahaha
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Skuzzy,
Great idea but it doesn't capture the essence of the game.
"You will never, ever get closer to flying real WWII aircraft than THIS game. There are many games that try, but none get as close as Aces High. We suspect that's why most people fly other games you can pay more to get "better". Not here. You either get better or you die. You can keep messing around with the other WWII games, or you can decide to experience the same learning curve and feel that your great-Grandfathers and Grandfathers did when they flew these planes or rolled tanks into combat...it's your choice...but you better have a good reason to call yourself a gamer and not be able to defend against this..
Insert Greebo miserably reversing Changeup
Or this...
Rocky bnzing JB11 while he's fighting 4 other people
Or this...
That flight of bombers crushing a base (with a view from above and with a view of Dodger in an 88 pumping out shells as fast as it will load them)
Or this...
A CV rolling in off the coast towards a base in the distance while quietly launching 20 POTW planes NOE snap-framing closer and closer to the base while Lazer, Nath, Creton, Bluberry, Sunsfan, Kappa, et al are wiildly launching to intercept
Or this...
Three tanks are rolling slowly to a Vbase in the distance that is being JABOd by P47s that LilMak commands and then the tanks stop dead, engines on then...backing up widely as Dr7 and his crew fire unmercifully on the GVs rolling in for the take.
Or this...
Troops are being dropped by one of 4 C47s from the view of a distant Wirbel rolling as fast as it can towards town firing into the dropping troops
"So don't tell us you've played WWII games before because you haven't played this one. How do we know? If you had, you wouldn't be watching YouTube right now...You'd be knee deep in combat playing Aces High."
Edit: all this while playing Rage Against the Machine's "No Shelter"...there's a thin line between entertainment and war...
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Sorry, I gotta give this ad a thumbs down. Thats hard to type because I really enjoy this game, appreciate what goes into making it what it is and know someone made this believing it was good. I was waiting for the real ad start and thought it was a marketing company intro explaining their approach and how they came up with this awesome ad I'm about to see, which never happens. When it got far enough along where its obvious that this is the ad...I sort mumbled "Yikes..." under my breath. I can't see it sparking a potential players interest much.
I suggest a player developed ad contest. Declare the message and tech guidelines and cut these guys loose on it. Winner gets some reward and accolades and I bet you would end up with several very good ones.
1 minute of one of the decent player- made dogfight films with the web address overlaid would likely have more effect
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Not a fan.
It's needs action. Dramatic music. Explosions. fighters in combat. And a deeper dramatic voice not some redneck sounding retards.
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not some redneck sounding retards.
Perhaps no one has explained to you where HTC is located... :devil
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changeup has the right idea. take footage from the "shaking hand" moments of combat in the game. Those moments that keep us paying $14.95 monthly. Make sure it is smooth, nasty killing. Not some twitchy 190 pilot flopping around to preserve his score. :D
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I guess my offer of doing one in the end fell on deaf ears, as well as offering my input on previewing and critiquing the ad.
The interesting thing is, that my PMInbox had the whole conversation.
Looking at this film made me go back and check to see what I had said in full. I say had because I know I didn't remove it, yet it has been deleted and not by myself. Personal messaging tampering and deletion very possibly by HTC/Skuzzy.
I can't express my disappointment in words, but I am utterly dismayed. And therefore I have no opinion
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I guess my offer of doing one in the end fell on deaf ears, as well as offering my input on previewing and critiquing the ad.
The interesting thing is, that my PMInbox had the whole conversation.
Looking at this film made me go back and check to see what I had said in full. I say had because I know I didn't remove it, yet it has been deleted and not by myself. Personal messaging tampering and deletion very possibly by HTC/Skuzzy.
We never, ever touch anyones PM box. EVER! The accusation is insulting.
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Maybe get a group of 20 skilled fighter pilots and send 50 not so good guys to kill them, with a 5k alt cap. :aok
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Come on fellas it wasn't that bad.
I say rock it :cheers:
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imo what we need to do is have dolby, f77, vudu15, jochum, triton28 and other film makers who have produced quality content, coupled with myself and some other photo-choppers from here and then add in all the sound guys like ranger mitsu etc and make something to be remembered.
We all want the game to succeed and if there is a problem in the advertising department then hell, who better then us.
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(http://i57.tinypic.com/mvi96v.jpg)
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Come on fellas it wasn't that bad.
It was. :uhoh
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(http://i57.tinypic.com/mvi96v.jpg)
:rofl :aok
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(http://i57.tinypic.com/mvi96v.jpg)
:rofl
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In my best Bob Barker voice:
Will the contestant who really created that ad, please come down.
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We never, ever touch anyones PM box. EVER! The accusation is insulting.
Edits to a webpage very often come with a log of all the happenings and edits of content, times dates and login name.
Any chance of seeing what or whom tampered with my PMIndex?
I assure you am insulted by it by the power of 10 to how you feel about this.
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imo what we need to do is have dolby, f77, vudu15, jochum, triton28 and other film makers who have produced quality content, coupled with myself and some other photo-choppers from here and then add in all the sound guys like ranger mitsu etc and make something to be remembered.
We all want the game to succeed and if there is a problem in the advertising department then hell, who better then us.
Until I know what happened to the messages in my PMIndex you can count a halt to my film production.
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I guess my offer of doing one in the end fell on deaf ears, as well as offering my input on previewing and critiquing the ad.
The interesting thing is, that my PMInbox had the whole conversation.
Looking at this film made me go back and check to see what I had said in full. I say had because I know I didn't remove it, yet it has been deleted and not by myself. Personal messaging tampering and deletion very possibly by HTC/Skuzzy.
I can't express my disappointment in words, but I am utterly dismayed. And therefore I have no opinion
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Edits to a webpage very often come with a log of all the happenings and edits of content, times dates and login name.
Any chance of seeing what or whom tampered with my PMIndex?
I assure you am insulted by it by the power of 10 to how you feel about this.
We had nothing to do with it. There is no way for us to know because we do not log anything to do with the personal message box of the community.
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:O uhh what was that????????? it was oh so bad. it was so bad all my pets ran off..the sheep will never come back now...sorry guys try again..the original was 10 times better..and those voices--my ears are still bleeding
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i like the concept,but it just needs more aspects of the game represented
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I guess my offer of doing one in the end fell on deaf ears, as well as offering my input on previewing and critiquing the ad.
The interesting thing is, that my PMInbox had the whole conversation.
Looking at this film made me go back and check to see what I had said in full. I say had because I know I didn't remove it, yet it has been deleted and not by myself. Personal messaging tampering and deletion very possibly by HTC/Skuzzy.
I can't express my disappointment in words, but I am utterly dismayed. And therefore I have no opinion
You have to check a box to save your outgoing PMs... Only the incoming PMs are saved automagically. I know it is annoying, but it is in no way "tampering" by anyone.
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As for the ad... wait until you've updated the gfx, and get someone competent to do it, or the community. No offense intended.
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We never, ever touch anyones PM box. EVER! The accusation is insulting.
(http://i60.tinypic.com/mc3m7k.jpg)
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Yeah... the add is flat. I suppose it could be jazzed up, but I'm not sure what I'd leave and what I'd cut.
Users create a lot of content for this game, so I see no reason why they shouldn't do some advertising. I vote Dolby. :aok
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Just incase it's an outside job I have changed my password.
And just so you are aware, I do check the box.
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Yeah... the add is flat. I suppose it could be jazzed up, but I'm not sure what I'd leave and what I'd cut.
Users create a lot of content for this game, so I see no reason why they shouldn't do some advertising. I vote Dolby. :aok
didn't you hear...the toys are are out....
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I go grab a sandwich in Parkersburg, WV and I get back and th AD thread has been high jacked by Dolby's-mailbox-got-ripped off??? WTF?
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Skuzzy, I love Aces High but I'm afraid that ad isn't going to get new customers.
1. Don't tell them the game is 14 years old. People want the new and greatest thing unless they work in IT and know that older is more reliable.
2. Don't show the viewers the OLD cockpits! It may garner returning players it won't net you any new players.
3. With the B17 film at the end it may leave the player feeling it is controlled like Eve starships; point and click.
4. Put more excitement into the ad, the old ads you played on the Military Channel were better.
To be blunt, I have a 3 year old son I want to play Aces High eventually and I want the game to last long enough for him to enjoy it.
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Here's an idea. Why don't you hire a professional to create an advertisement for you?
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I found the "story board" concept interesting albeit a bit too aloof for your target audience. The essence of the game isn't conveyed. What about updating the Military Channel spots you ran a few years back?
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:salute This is a good ad.. how can you say you would not be swayed and take the plunge especially if you were looking for a game like this.. I think its smart funny beautifully done :neener: great stuff by the people responsible... Thank you
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I go grab a sandwich in Parkersburg, WV and I get back and th AD thread has been high jacked by Dolby's-mailbox-got-ripped off??? WTF?
Rule #2 :uhoh
appologies
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It was extremely difficult to listen to Barney Fife and Bullwinkle....While I liked the concept, everything else was an epic fail. :headscratch:
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It was extremely difficult to listen to Barney Fife and Bullwinkle....While I liked the concept, everything else was an epic fail. :headscratch:
:lol
I thought the main speaker sounded like Pat O'Day, had the slurrpy alcoholic quality about his voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmkkDqxXiV4
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As a marketing professional, it is my opinion that running that ad would be a disservice to the game.
1) It shows no action. There are hundreds of videos to draw from that show what the game looks and feels like. Show some air combat. Show a tank firing rockets. Show 8" guns firing on a field. Anything but static screen shots.
2) 130 "objects" is too sterile of a description. Instead say "Choose from a hundred airplanes to fly and dozens of combat vehicles to drive from the moment you start." (This last point is important to point out compared to games where you have to grind through a tech-tree to get to later aircraft/vehicles. "Jump right into the P51 Mustang, Spitfire Mark Sixteen or Focke-Wolf 190 D and experience realistic air combat. Fly a B17 bomber. Fight in a Panzer or Sherman tank."
3) It should stress the fidelity of the flight model, as THAT is what sets Aces High apart: "Aces High is a challenging online WWII combat environment where you fight against live opponents using a simulator-level flight model in accurately modeled historical aircraft and vehicles. This is no arcade-style game, but a real test of your skills. Do you have what it takes to become a fighter ace? Or an armored vehicle commander? Or a bomber pilot, bombardier or gunner? Rise to the challenge and try Aces High for free today!"
4) More focus on things AH has that others don't, such as in-game comms. "Communicate and coordinate with other Aces High players using built-in voice communications." Then use some in-game radio chatter as an example played over some air combat footage. "109s 3-O'clock high. Tally. Here they come! Check six, white five!"
5) Talk about the "sandbox environment": "Aces High is an open environment full of a world of possibilities. You choose what you fly or drive, where you go and what your mission is. Fly a fighter in a nearby dogfight or take a bomber deep into the heart of enemy territory. It's all up to you." Maybe then dovetail this into the "or join missions and fly along AH veterans".
6) Mention missions and training possibilities as a way to learn for new players "Join organized missions and fly alongside Aces High veterans. Or get with one of the many Aces High trainers who can teach you Air Combat Maneuvering and more!"
In general the idea should be to focus on what sets AH apart from other games, which I feel are the things listed above.
Given more time, I could write a decent script bringing all these ideas together. PM me if you'd like.
Respectfully submitted,
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Ryno
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:lol
I thought the main speaker sounded like Pat O'Day, had the slurrpy alcoholic quality about his voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmkkDqxXiV4
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :cheers:
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Honestly Ryno, HiTech should take your talking points and use those. Those convey perfectly what should be emphasized, along with the video clips showing each point in-game.
ack-ack
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As a marketing professional, it is my opinion that running that ad would be a disservice to the game.
1) It shows no action. There are hundreds of videos to draw from that show what the game looks and feels like. Show some air combat. Show a tank firing rockets. Show 8" guns firing on a field. Anything but static screen shots.
2) 130 "objects" is too sterile of a description. Instead say "Choose from a hundred airplanes to fly and dozens of combat vehicles to drive from the moment you start." (This last point is important to point out compared to games where you have to grind through a tech-tree to get to later aircraft/vehicles. "Jump right into the P51 Mustang, Spitfire Mark Sixteen or Focke-Wolf 190 D and experience realistic air combat. Fly a B17 bomber. Fight in a Panzer or Sherman tank."
3) It should stress the fidelity of the flight model, as THAT is what set's Aces High apart: "Aces High is a challenging online WWII combat environment where you fight against live opponents using a simulator-level flight model in accurately modeled historical aircraft and vehicles. This is no arcade-style game, but a real test of your skills. Do you have what it takes to become a fighter ace? Or an armored vehicle commander? Or a bomber pilot, bombardier or gunner? Rise to the challenge and try Aces High for free today!"
4) More focus on things AH has that others don't, such as in-game comms. "Communicate and coordinate with other Aces High players using built-in voice communications." Then use some in-game radio chatter as an example played over some air combat footage. "109s 3-O'clock high. Tally. Here they come! Check six, white five!"
5) Talk about the "sandbox environment": "Aces High is an open environment full of a world of possibilities. You choose what you fly or drive, where you go and what your mission is. Fly a fighter in a nearby dogfight or take a bomber deep into the heart of enemy territory. It's all up to you." Maybe then dovetail this into the "or join missions and fly along AH veterans".
6) Mention missions and training possibilities as a way to learn for new players "Join organized missions and fly alongside Aces High veterans. Or get with one of the many Aces High trainers who can teach you Air Combat Maneuvering and more!"
In general the idea should be to focus on what sets AH apart from other games, which I feel are the things listed above.
Given more time, I could write a decent script bringing all these ideas together. PM me if you'd like.
Respectfully submitted,
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Ryno
nice write up....and all great ideas. :aok
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As a marketing professional, it is my opinion that running that ad would be a disservice to the game.
1) It shows no action. There are hundreds of videos to draw from that show what the game looks and feels like. Show some air combat. Show a tank firing rockets. Show 8" guns firing on a field. Anything but static screen shots.
2) 130 "objects" is too sterile of a description. Instead say "Choose from a hundred airplanes to fly and dozens of combat vehicles to drive from the moment you start." (This last point is important to point out compared to games where you have to grind through a tech-tree to get to later aircraft/vehicles. "Jump right into the P51 Mustang, Spitfire Mark Sixteen or Focke-Wolf 190 D and experience realistic air combat. Fly a B17 bomber. Fight in a Panzer or Sherman tank."
3) It should stress the fidelity of the flight model, as THAT is what set's Aces High apart: "Aces High is a challenging online WWII combat environment where you fight against live opponents using a simulator-level flight model in accurately modeled historical aircraft and vehicles. This is no arcade-style game, but a real test of your skills. Do you have what it takes to become a fighter ace? Or an armored vehicle commander? Or a bomber pilot, bombardier or gunner? Rise to the challenge and try Aces High for free today!"
4) More focus on things AH has that others don't, such as in-game comms. "Communicate and coordinate with other Aces High players using built-in voice communications." Then use some in-game radio chatter as an example played over some air combat footage. "109s 3-O'clock high. Tally. Here they come! Check six, white five!"
5) Talk about the "sandbox environment": "Aces High is an open environment full of a world of possibilities. You choose what you fly or drive, where you go and what your mission is. Fly a fighter in a nearby dogfight or take a bomber deep into the heart of enemy territory. It's all up to you." Maybe then dovetail this into the "or join missions and fly along AH veterans".
6) Mention missions and training possibilities as a way to learn for new players "Join organized missions and fly alongside Aces High veterans. Or get with one of the many Aces High trainers who can teach you Air Combat Maneuvering and more!"
In general the idea should be to focus on what sets AH apart from other games, which I feel are the things listed above.
Given more time, I could write a decent script bringing all these ideas together. PM me if you'd like.
Respectfully submitted,
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Ryno
Great write up!! :salute
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if its a starter ad, i like it!! its very cool! assuming more to come! :x
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Amazing. Through the simple expedient of posting a stinker of an advertisement, HTC has gained a large pool of people brainstorming ideas and falling over themselves to assist in content creation for HTC's ad campaign, presumably for free. Well played sirs! Well played indeed! :rock
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:huh
The massive bomber formation was pretty cool. But that unfortunately was it.
There is no gameplay shown or the excitement of combat, just a very annoying voiceover with very few clues or visuals as to what makes the game so much fun.
It does look like a child put it together, not a professional company with 14 years of game development :uhoh
This does not make me want to play the game.
This does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=550E-3Cp2jM
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Great write up!! :salute
Honestly Ryno, HiTech should take your talking points and use those. Those convey perfectly what should be emphasized, along with the video clips showing each point in-game.
ack-ack
OK, dagnabbit. Based on the feebback so far, I'll start by throwing my hat in the ring.
If folks (especially HTC) like what I wrote above, I'll can go ahead, write a script and try making a quick voice-over using this material. I'm going to be in the studio doing some recording this week and next week anyway. I'm not voice-over talent, but it will be done on a professional recording microphone and edited in ProTools recording software, so I can manipulate it and add effects as needed.
I'll do it for no charge, except maybe "WTG" and a scotch if I'm ever in their neck of the woods in TX. No obligation to use it, either.
If I do this, and make a 30 or 60 second voice over, will Dolby (or one of our other film guru's) take a stab at setting it to game/combat footage?
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Ryno
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is it April 1 already?
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OK, dagnabbit. Based on the feebback so far, I'll start by throwing my hat in the ring.
If folks (especially HTC) like what I wrote above, I'll can go ahead, write a script and try making a quick voice-over using this material. I'm going to be in the studio doing some recording this week and next week anyway. I'm not voice-over talent, but it will be done on a professional recording microphone and edited in ProTools recording software, so I can manipulate it and add effects as needed.
I'll do it for no charge, except maybe "WTG" and a scotch if I'm ever in their neck of the woods in TX. No obligation to use it, either.
If I do this, and make a 30 or 60 second voice over, will Dolby (or one of our other film guru's) take a stab at setting it to game/combat footage?
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Ryno
It looks great. Remember rule number 1...know your audience. While you copy conveys the message, it sounds a lot someone in Detroit is trying to sell me a car. The audience isn't buying a car...they're buying a challenge to last longer than two weeks in here which if the message is done right, will make them say, "Bullsheeeet, I'm a gamer...how hard can it be?"
Selling them a Buick won't get it done.
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It looks great. Remember rule number 1...know your audience. While you copy conveys the message, it sounds a lot someone in Detroit is trying to sell me a car. The audience isn't buying a car...they're buying a challenge to last longer than two weeks in here which if the message is done right, will make them say, "Bullsheeeet, I'm a gamer...how hard can it be?"
Selling them a Buick won't get it done.
Well put.
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:O (http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t642/gcraft368/ad9_zpsf4206750.gif) :bolt:
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(http://i57.tinypic.com/mvi96v.jpg)
:rofl
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And a deeper dramatic voice not some redneck sounding retards.
I don't know. The viewer should be prepared in some way for what they will experience when they log in to the arenas for the first time, otherwise it's almost like false advertising...
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if the message is done right, will make them say, "Bullsheeeet, I'm a gamer...how hard can it be?"
Selling them a Buick won't get it done.
I totally agree. I think conveying what is different about AH while "selling the challenge" like "Think you're up to the challenge?" or "Are you ready to rise to the challege?" These make good themes for an ad, IMO.
Any specifics from my talking points you think could be improved upon? (That was stream of consciousness stuff, not something I planned.)
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Ryno
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Amazing. Through the simple expedient of posting a stinker of an advertisement, HTC has gained a large pool of people brainstorming ideas and falling over themselves to assist in content creation for HTC's ad campaign, presumably for free. Well played sirs! Well played indeed! :rock
EXACTLY what I was thinking. lol
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Hire Morgan Freeman for the voice-over! :rock
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Brilliant!
If you get YouTube talking about the quality of the ad as much as these guys are and it goes viral, you just scored a huge hit :aok Name recognition, then you follow up with a really barn burning ad and look how many people will know the name Aces High!
Always overcoming obstacles :D
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Although I didn't find it as disgusting as some others, if it was on TV I'd hit FF.
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Amazing. Through the simple expedient of posting a stinker of an advertisement, HTC has gained a large pool of people brainstorming ideas and falling over themselves to assist in content creation for HTC's ad campaign, presumably for free. Well played sirs! Well played indeed! :rock
No need for it as the community would of been willing to submit ideas anyway. When is the last time you found someone from Aces High not willing to give their opinion?
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Until I know what happened to the messages in my PMIndex you can count a halt to my film production.
Yup, as a kid I guess it's ok to punish everyone because of one, a few, or a glitch.
I think it's time to grow up little man.
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I totally agree. I think conveying what is different about AH while "selling the challenge" like "Think you're up to the challenge?" or "Are you ready to rise to the challege?" These make good themes for an ad, IMO.
Any specifics from my talking points you think could be improved upon? (That was stream of consciousness stuff, not something I planned.)
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Ryno
Your audience will give you their language...Think you're up to the challenge is my age demographic...but the kids are all about pwnage. You need to get JOAchim, Lazer, Bluberry, etc....the 20 something's and younger.
Write it up and send it to them to convert it to verbiage their demographic will respond to. I'm betting on JOACHIM and Dolby (you'll need him for the UK) folks.
Youtube is a vogue medium and you can take pop culture liberties there. These kids need to know they are going to spend 6 months getting the pizz kicked out of them and that will get their attention...why? Because they're the xbox generation. This ain't xbox...you can't buy your way out of a furball.
See, guys like me, Fugi, AK...and older, we don't care because we are connected to WWII through family members...kids today can't even remember the Vietnam War or Bosnia much less WWII so you have to attack that audience differently.
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is it April 1 already?
Beat me to it.. :bolt:
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Just hope we didn't smash someone's feeling on this.
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Just hope we didn't smash someone's feeling on this.
I hope not too but they all can't be home runs. It's ok to strike out...part of the game
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I hope not too but they all can't be home runs. It's ok to strike out...part of the game
bah humbug!!
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There seems to be some confusion, I never said I liked it... I was merely quoting it.
I was going to start a thread a while ago that HTC should hold a competition for commercials to air using player submitted videos. There is so much creative potential in this community that I'm sure HTC would receive plenty of good footage.
I hope not too but they all can't be home runs. It's ok to strike out...part of the game
This.
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Just hope we didn't smash someone's feeling on this.
This was a turd. It is our solemn duty to protect the public from it! :old:
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Your audience will give you their language...Think you're up to the challenge is my age demographic...but the kids are all about pwnage. You need to get JOAchim, Lazer, Bluberry, etc....the 20 something's and younger.
Write it up and send it to them to convert it to verbiage their demographic will respond to. I'm betting on JOACHIM and Dolby (you'll need him for the UK) folks.
Youtube is a vogue medium and you can take pop culture liberties there. These kids need to know they are going to spend 6 months getting the pizz kicked out of them and that will get their attention...why? Because they're the xbox generation. This ain't xbox...you can't buy your way out of a furball.
See, guys like me, Fugi, AK...and older, we don't care because we are connected to WWII through family members...kids today can't even remember the Vietnam War or Bosnia much less WWII so you have to attack that audience differently.
what would appeal to me is high speed, quick, snappy, film clipes with a climatic theme song to pull the intensity out of the game. People wanna play a game that will make them think quickly and effectively while having fun!
If I were to make an ad it would show every dynamic of the game. Tanking, fighting, bombing, FSO, Gunship, 88mm etc...
This is a good idea of what a good ad would start as would be what mr niros made
http://youtu.be/Oh9FOD463cg
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Well this has been an ordeal.
I am not going to be harsh because that probably took a lot of time to do. That being said, there could have been more explosions.
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My thing was I was asked about helping make an ad as well, so why did they waste time on this when just asking would have been enough? Could have put it together as a contest instead of either building a turd or tricking folks.
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Ahem.. Start with a nice view of my F6f=5 hellcat and my wingmans hellcat triumphantly roaring down the lush coastline.. closing with an alt and energy advatange over a seemingly low and slow ki-43 on the deck... cut to about a 5 seconds later of my hellcat burning in flames and plumes of smoke hurtling down to the terrain below.. and me desperately trying to bail out of the cockpit but my arm has been for all intents and purposes shot off by the ki-43's two machinguns... so I am pretty much going to die now in this piece of sh** because my wingman has decided to grab some alt instead and therefore was a non-factor in my being mauled by a dead in the water ki-43 and so it was completely his fault. And there you go that is Aces High in a nutshell.
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Mmmmm . . . funnel cakes! ;)
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My thing was I was asked about helping make an ad as well, so why did they waste time on this when just asking would have been enough? Could have put it together as a contest instead of either building a turd or tricking folks.
I don't know maybe they thought they could do it better themselves. Or maybe they underestimated the difficulty of making a good film. Or some legal issue with a player making an advertisement.
I think a contest would have been cool, it would have forced to me to fly again and make another film.
Anyhow I honestly didn't think it was that bad.
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I agree with all of Ryno's points. After watching the video, I had no desire to log in to AH and play the game. If it cannot get an existing player to log in and play, then I seriously doubt it will attract new players.
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Egad..... :confused:
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Yup, as a kid I guess it's ok to punish everyone because of one, a few, or a glitch.
I think it's time to grow up little man.
I don't think you have earned the right to call me that.
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I don't think you have earned the right to call me that.
dude, everybody has earned the right to call that against you. feel free to post a conspiracy theory on youtube. right next to the rainbow conspiracy.
semp
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OK, dagnabbit. Based on the feebback so far, I'll start by throwing my hat in the ring.
If folks (especially HTC) like what I wrote above, I'll can go ahead, write a script and try making a quick voice-over using this material. I'm going to be in the studio doing some recording this week and next week anyway. I'm not voice-over talent, but it will be done on a professional recording microphone and edited in ProTools recording software, so I can manipulate it and add effects as needed.
I'll do it for no charge, except maybe "WTG" and a scotch if I'm ever in their neck of the woods in TX. No obligation to use it, either.
If I do this, and make a 30 or 60 second voice over, will Dolby (or one of our other film guru's) take a stab at setting it to game/combat footage?
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Ryno
Please accept this offer, you've nothing to lose
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I have seriously convinced myself that we have all been trolled...hardcore!
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Nevermind.
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I got it........... :rofl
The entire staff must be busting a gut and slapping high fives over the up roar and chatter. The whole thing was a put on. No ad to be posted tomorrow. It does however sound as if some of the "game is dying threads" of late have been noticed. This might come to the surprise of someone at HTC sipping top shelf scotch and counting their monthly receipts. In the immortal words of Samuel Clemmons, "The news of my demise has been greatly exaggerated."
The give away, was the mock discussion about 60 seconds to do an ad, splash screens that even Evelyn Wood couldn't have read that fast, and the the film account of maybe 30 or 40 players in just one single screen width.
Why would they need to advertise? :lol
I wish to answer my own question -- It has been noticed by off hours players and myself that numbers do thin out, which changes the gameplay quite a bit. I do wish for more success in marketing to other time zones. My Aussie buds, for example, seemed to be logging in around the same time as me (off hours - due to night shift eastern US). That is just one example, maybe to complete the satire, the ad should be badly over dubbed in Spanish, German, Japanese and Chinese.
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The accents were killing me.
Not sure "bubba factor" is the appeal you want....
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OK, dagnabbit. Based on the feebback so far, I'll start by throwing my hat in the ring.
If folks (especially HTC) like what I wrote above, I'll can go ahead, write a script and try making a quick voice-over using this material. I'm going to be in the studio doing some recording this week and next week anyway. I'm not voice-over talent, but it will be done on a professional recording microphone and edited in ProTools recording software, so I can manipulate it and add effects as needed.
I'll do it for no charge, except maybe "WTG" and a scotch if I'm ever in their neck of the woods in TX. No obligation to use it, either.
If I do this, and make a 30 or 60 second voice over, will Dolby (or one of our other film guru's) take a stab at setting it to game/combat footage?
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Ryno
That's ok, squadie. I'll take that scotch for ya since I am in the neighborhood. ;)
(Get Seighin to do some voice, as well.) :D
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The accents were killing me.
Not sure "bubba factor" is the appeal you want....
Send in a voice script. ;)
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Perhaps no one has explained to you where HTC is located... :devil
Texans don't talk like that. I know.
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Texans don't talk like that. I know.
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Send in a voice script. ;)
I can mimic any celebrity you wish, including Morgan Freeman. I do impressions and impersonations for fun. I'm good at it, too. Any way, it isn't my job to do their VoiceOver work.
(How do I put you on ignore? You literally contribute NOTHING to this forum but smart arse comments.)
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"You are ignoring this user."
Great. It still shows you posted. I don't even want to know you exist so this ignore feature is an epic fail.
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I can mimic any celebrity you wish, including Morgan Freeman. I do impressions and impersonations for fun. I'm good at it, too. Any way, it isn't my job to do their VoiceOver work.
(How do I put you on ignore? You literally contribute NOTHING to this forum but smart arse comments.)
Well,if you're that thenthitive you can just ignore the old fashioned way and not have to react to anything I post. :aok
Having said that, I haven't seen much in the way of contribution to either the community or forum from your ironic self. With the talent you supposedly possess the best you can follow up your bragging with is a 'not my job?' Keep it to yourself then. :D
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Guys I think you all need to take a breath. I know the ad is not that good but the way people are going on in here, it abused you as a child & punched your mum.
I believe the ad push needs to be put on hold until the new engines are in place. You need to WOW people into checking out a game and then, you need the eye candy to make them stay long enough for the drug that is Aces High, to affect their system.
Its the challenge of getting the new players in and hooked.
The Ad needs to be paced better, with an opening that grabs people.
An Opening with a blue sky. <1sec a bomber group roars over the camera. Camera shakes as it is hit with slipstream. 4-5 groups of He-111s holding tight formation.
5s mark: cut to a Ops room. Pay a few brits (there is bound to be a recreation group with the right kit somewhere willing to work for cheap). Have them calling the incoming attack, and scramble the fighters.
7-8 sec mark, show pilots running to their planes, fad from a real plane and actor to in-game footage with the newest terrain. As the camera pans around the aircraft (Hurricane) Splash screen with info about the number of flyable aircraft in the game.
12sec cut back to Ops, Listen to an order be given to man the AA, cut to a shot of an Allied AA unit roll into a town and stop on a cross road. Splash screen with info on number of GVs in game.
16 sec: First person shot from cockpit of the number 2 pilot. Glancing at Wing leader and the surrounding sky.
18sec: Pilot spots eny He-111s. Low 2oclock. Group Dives to attack. 6-8 secs of quick fire cuts between first and 3rd person view, showing shots being taken, fast passes gun blazing. Bombers shooting back.
26 sec: Bomber trailing fire and smoke dropping from sky, hurricane zooms pass into the camera. W/L calls RTB as the lead hurricane reaches the screen. Deploy ending splash screen with Game Title and Game website address.
Make sure to only show the best of the best in an ad. Never show the older models and make sure to use that fantastic lighting and terrain engine in the works.
Good music and voice acting are required.
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Ughh that was ugly.
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^^fish ^^ great...let it end unresolved with a " how will it end.....YOU decide....jump in a plane and join the action ....live the film live..."
Or some such thing...
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Ughh that was ugly.
In Arlo's voice, "Well if you think you can do better then submit an ad of your own."
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"Two sections scramble!!"
Cut to a gaggle of Spitfires roaring into the air.... (Or go with a Pearl Harbor / Bodenplatte theme.)
Dogfights. Dead buffs. You get the idea.
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dude, everybody has earned the right to call that against you. feel free to post a conspiracy theory on youtube. right next to the rainbow conspiracy.
semp
Rainbow Conspiracy? You mean the little pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is a lie? My Hopes! My Dreams! :cry
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I can mimic any celebrity you wish, including Morgan Freeman. I do impressions and impersonations for fun. I'm good at it, too. Any way, it isn't my job to do their VoiceOver work.
(How do I put you on ignore? You literally contribute NOTHING to this forum but smart arse comments.)
"You are ignoring this user."
Great. It still shows you posted. I don't even want to know you exist so this ignore feature is an epic fail.
Wow Arlo.
Did you piss in that guy's Cheerio's or something? No wait, it was a dump again, wasn't it???
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Wow Arlo.
Did you piss in that guy's Cheerio's or something? No wait, it was a dump again, wasn't it???
He has a track record of contributing nothing but smart guy wisecracks that are not only unfunny, but are a waste of bandwidth. His shtick is suffering from shrinkage.
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In Arlo's voice, "Well if you think you can do better then submit an ad of your own."
Fixating is the opposite of ignoring. ;)
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He has a track record of contributing nothing but smart guy wisecracks that are not only unfunny, but are a waste of bandwidth. His shtick is suffering from shrinkage.
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Arlo just got burned.
:banana:
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He has a track record of contributing nothing but smart guy wisecracks that are not only unfunny, but are a waste of bandwidth. His shtick is suffering from shrinkage.
Huh. You haven't been here long enough to figure out my track record or start one of your own. I had high hopes for ya but all you really do is post doomsday whines and expect what ... admiration? :D
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Arlo just got burned.
:banana:
Uh, you should probably focus on making films (and they're not bad) what with your embarrassing episode in this thread. :lol
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Arlo just got burned.
:banana:
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Aww naw you didn't...
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Huh. You haven't been here long enough to figure out my track record or start one of your own. I had high hopes for ya but all you really do is post doomsday whines and expect what ... admiration? :D
He isn't the only one to voice a similar opinion.
Its beginning to border on consensus.
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Fish On!
:D
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He isn't the only one to voice a similar opinion.
Its beginning to border on consensus.
There's still enough members in the community to take more than a dozen pizzed off posters that got embarrassed by me at one time or another to reach a 'consensus.' ;)
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Fish On!
:D
Maybe it's a good thing you've forgotten. I'll leave it alone and perhaps we all will. :aok
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Arlo I know why you have so many posts you always double post on your own posts.. dam son get outdoors a bit... :joystick:
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You don't embarrass anybody but yourself Arlo. It's a sad fact.
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Arlo I know why you have so many posts you always double post on your own posts.. dam son get outdoors a bit... :joystick:
Craz, did I tell you how much I admire and respect everything you've posted since you discovered this game and community? Didn't think so. :D
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You don't embarrass anybody but yourself Arlo. It's a sad fact.
Only the ones that have no shame ... have no shame. ;)
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You don't embarrass anybody but yourself Arlo. It's a sad fact.
:cheers:
Which he does repeatedly with his inane, pre-teen level, wannabe put-down "comments". Guy obviously lives with his parents...
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:cheers:
Which he does repeatedly with his pre-teen, inane comments.
Vraci, fixating is still the opposite of ignoring. :D
Having said that, set the example. I promise to follow. :aok
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I have seriously convinced myself that we have all been trolled...hardcore!
+1
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I see nothing wrong with this ad, but it is not a front page add. It's a supporting add. As others have stated, a better "hook" is needed.
I would go as far as to say that this add should come after a harder hitting ad to fill in the gaps, and a third, more detailed ad should follow it.
Based on the selling points made in this ad, I think the most important things that any front page ad about this game must get acrossed to a viewer, got lost to other points that aren't as important to the masses.
A top notch, fast hitting ad should hit on these points:
1 - bar none, the best virtual combat pilots on the internet are found here!
2 - The most accurate flight model of any air combat game.
3 - hundreds of players in a single game.
4 - the best large scale dogfights of any combat game
5 - great visuals of the planes and combat
He has a track record of contributing nothing but smart guy wisecracks that are not only unfunny, but are a waste of bandwidth. His shtick is suffering from shrinkage.
Don't pay any attention to special Ned, he's like a nuclear reactor, with self perpetuating ignorance as the fuel, all that will ever come of that interaction is contamination.
Funny though, he once told me that the there is no interest in massive bomber raids in AH, yet the only flight scene in HTCs new ad was a massive bomber raid we almost never see. Which brings me to my next point.
Htc. If you are going to promote things like this, I think it would be wise to make it so that it was reasonable to find it on almost
hourly basis.
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He has a track record of contributing nothing but smart guy wisecracks that are not only unfunny, but are a waste of bandwidth. His shtick is suffering from shrinkage.
Don't pay any attention to special Ned, he's like a nuclear reactor, with self perpetuating ignorance as the fuel, all that will ever come of that interaction is contamination.
Roger that. Thank you. The Ignore List is a help. :salute
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Roger that. Thank you. The Ignore List is a help. :salute
Fixating is .... oh never-mind. Fixate. If this is 'contributing' you can have it. :D
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Don't pay any attention to special Ned, he's like a nuclear reactor, with self perpetuating ignorance as the fuel, all that will ever come of that interaction is contamination.
Get over it already. :lol
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I have seriously convinced myself that we have all been trolled...hardcore!
I doubt it, but I would rather be trolled then accept that's what they actually put their stamp of approval on before showing it off.
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Muzik, I believe the shot of the super large formation of bombers is to show what can be done in AH. And while a formation of that size is very rare in the MA's, ET's missions generally has a sizable formation of them. While I can agree that showing the hourly based thing that happens in the MA, it would be hard pressed against stuff like WT. AH has diversity, and that for sure is something that should be shown, not just mentioned.
Just hope we didn't smash someone's feeling on this.
Yeah. I hope our honesty isn't taken badly. I am being truthful that I got a laugh out of it. :aok
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I don't think it is enough as a stand alone ad, but I could see it as a lead in to some other content.
I borrowed concepts from earlier AH ads to make this AvA promo years ago and wonder what pros or someone with Dolby's skill could do along these lines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpSAQ3JfXbw
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I don't think it is enough as a stand alone ad, but I could see it as a lead in to some other content.
I borrowed concepts from earlier AH ads to make this AvA promo years ago and wonder what pros or someone with Dolby's skill could do along these lines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpSAQ3JfXbw
this is what I said on my first post generally, explosions, battle scenes, fighter ACM, different planes, and the concept of the game without having to explain it.
too add the suspenseful music...
I think you should ask permission to use player base footage and films. If you are going to promote the game the best way is for people to see what it is like when they play it.
people want to see the game,, not listen to it.
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My Spidey sense is tingling...
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imo what we need to do is have dolby, f77, vudu15, jochum, triton28 and other film makers who have produced quality content, coupled with myself and some other photo-choppers from here and then add in all the sound guys like ranger mitsu etc and make something to be remembered.
We all want the game to succeed and if there is a problem in the advertising department then hell, who better then us.
The great thing is we don't need any permission to go and do this on our own already! We should totally make our own fan-made ad for AH2! Pick a day for a whole bunch of us to get online, grab 40-70 fighters, and meet in 1 sector to duke it out for some awesome mass dogfight scenes. Then we can plan some big bomber and gv runs, and show off just how massive AH2 is both in server numbers and the air/land/sea war.
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The great thing is we don't need any permission to go and do this on our own already! We should totally make our own fan-made ad for AH2! Pick a day for a whole bunch of us to get online, grab 40-70 fighters, and meet in 1 sector to duke it out for some awesome mass dogfight scenes. Then we can plan some big bomber and gv runs, and show off just how massive AH2 is both in server numbers and the air/land/sea war.
There ya go. :aok
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Things about video marketing is if you dont grab them in the first 10 seconds you have lost them. Actually its that way for most videos but most of all short form.
Thats why dramatic music is often used. Action/suspense scenes. Eye candy ....ect I'd probably start with a bold shot of the Iconic, 51 or 17, real life film you can use commercially. Then I'd fade in AH content with a aged-filmed filter using slow mo as needed. I'd never even use spoken words until maybe the end. I'd just keep the eye moving, maybe going to period music. Whatever i wanted to say about the game would be in titling, including "wow" statements from members.
Save the BIG scene for last and what could be better then a pile of 17s being escorted by 51s with a pack of murderous Huns descending upon them.
Battleground Europe actually made a decent one a few years ago despite their graphics being worse then AHs current and their game being far, far buggier. Here is one on their greenlight page http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=93182567 I was flying myself in some of these scenes.
Notice how they use the very things I talked about in making it. Today everyone can have an NLE we dreamed about in the early days of DV to get thru a short like this with basic skills. Ive been out of it for years but I still have my dedicated machine and a full version of Vegas on this one. Notice how the use of light, slo mo/speed, and other filters can make even an old, old game look much better. And bro's, they have like 3 airplanes for each side. :lol
But the eye of the viewer isnt given time to grow bored by anything dated. Commercial shorts, like any video, tell a story. But they do it dramatically and dont give you a second to be bored. A video maker must ALWAYS be will to accept honest criticism or he will never grow. Good luck.
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Things about video marketing is if you dont grab them in the first 10 seconds you have lost them. Actually its that way for most videos but most of all short form.
Thats why dramatic music is often used. Action/suspense scenes. Eye candy ....ect I'd probably start with a bold shot of the Iconic, 51 or 17, real life film you can use commercially. Then I'd fade in AH content with a aged-filmed filter using slow mo as needed. I'd never even use spoken words until maybe the end. I'd just keep the eye moving, maybe going to period music. Whatever i wanted to say about the game would be in titling, including "wow" statements from members.
Save the BIG scene for last and what could be better then a pile of 17s being escorted by 51s with a pack of murderous Huns descending upon them.
Battleground Europe actually made a decent one a few years ago despite their graphics being worse then AHs current and their game being far, far buggier. Here is one on their greenlight page http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=93182567 I was flying myself in some of these scenes.
Notice how they use the very things I talked about in making it. Today everyone can have an NLE we dreamed about in the early days of DV to get thru a short like this with basic skills. Ive been out of it for years but I still have my dedicated machine and a full version of Vegas on this one. Notice how the use of light, slo mo/speed, and other filters can make even an old, old game look much better. And bro's, they have like 3 airplanes for each side. :lol
But the eye of the viewer isnt given time to grow bored by anything dated. Commercial shorts, like any video, tell a story. But they do it dramatically and dont give you a second to be bored. A video maker must ALWAYS be will to accept honest criticism of he will never grow. Good luck.
I dunno on the lack of narration, regarding the game.
I'd also add any relative recorded WWII pilot chatter that might match the action. But a good announcer that can bring home the best points about the game and community is a must, imo.
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Can we have an advert with zack1234 naked? :headscratch: or at least in his tight briefs?
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The great thing is we don't need any permission to go and do this on our own already! We should totally make our own fan-made ad for AH2! Pick a day for a whole bunch of us to get online, grab 40-70 fighters, and meet in 1 sector to duke it out for some awesome mass dogfight scenes. Then we can plan some big bomber and gv runs, and show off just how massive AH2 is both in server numbers and the air/land/sea war.
I was planning to get back into it after they updated the lighting and terrain.
I was working on on these 2 but stopped when I seen the updates coming and also the film view was driving me nuts. Its bugs and interface need to be fixed.
Just some low quality files to show off.
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/4ddcqaqzko6jbft/Runningdownadream.wmv
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/gbk3a45qk3b3gt3/Early_Cut.wmv
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What about shawk on stool on a slowly rotating platform, the camera is fixed on him hes simply repeats play aces high over and over, maybe get some dry ice in shot and a backing track, something by enya. The advert lasts maybe 5 minutes but never changes?
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What about shawk on stool on a slowly rotating platform, the camera is fixed on him hes simply repeats play aces high over and over, maybe get some dry ice in shot and a backing track, something by enya. The advert lasts maybe 5 minutes but never changes?
:lol
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OR Sunbat on a rotating platform in a Usain Bolt pose with (he'll like this) lots of naked woman dancing around him! there is an Aces High logo in neon in the background the tune is Baltimore Tarzan boy
OR as a variation Dolby on a rotating platform with a thumbs up pose and a big smile with (he'll like this) lots of naked men dancing around him! there is an Aces High logo in neon in the background the tune is London boys - London nights
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How about a powerpoint presentation with 2 hours of charts & graphs? I know some guy who could also provide a monotonous German accented voiceover... :old:
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Eurotime ..... this just keeps getting worse. :D
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are you allowed to mention the war snail?
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How about a powerpoint presentation with 2 hours of charts & graphs? I know some guy who could also provide a monotonous German accented voiceover... :old:
Will you be on a rotating platform of some sort? :headscratch:
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Will you be on a rotating platform of some sort? :headscratch:
That only would distract from the charts! :old:
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Will you be on a rotating platform of some sort? :headscratch:
(http://s1.favim.com/mini/2/austin-powers-mike-myers-yeah-baby-151109.jpg)
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Pros
Kudos to advertise the game and consistent focused marketing.
Cons
That ad may not have the broadest appeal to the entire demographic of potential new clients.
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That only would distract from the charts! :old:
(http://s1.favim.com/mini/2/austin-powers-mike-myers-yeah-baby-151109.jpg)
Come on be serious here I gotta have that platform babys
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Walken-Cowbell.jpg)
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Anyone remember that IL-2 video "Come With Me" featuring a Zeke pilot against F4Fs and SBDs? THAT is a great vid. The SBD vulch fest is brilliantly edited.
http://youtu.be/RuT6vzf-za4
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I always pictured an ad for the game similar to something like this.....tells u exactly what the squad is about....what they do...whats in game etc etc
Just shrink it way down and hit on the high points
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5R5MBKGi8
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Who is the guy with the poorly fitting dentures? LOL You can always tell because they shound shomething like Shawn Connery.
All kidding aside and I dont know if anyone has brought this up already or not but as much as anything this ad sufferers from the same problem most of the AH ad does. Trying to show too much too fast. Everything just wizzes by and its hard to grasp what its all about.
Im in the tri state area of NY, NJ and Pennsy. Trust me. Everything here is faster then just about anyplace else in the country. We go and talk a mile a minute Especially conversation where I struggle to keep from smacking people just to "get to the point already" And these commercials are too fast paced. Its like fanning the pages of a book through your fingers. You might catch a word or two here and there. But you still have no idea what the book is about.
AH would be better off slowing the pace down a bit and doing a series of different commercials highlighting different aspects of the game instead of seemingly trying to cram everything into one bit. Or telling a story. Open with for example a naval battle and or bombardment then move to aircraft duking it out over sea. then fighters attacking each other and bombers as the bombers are dropping on land targets and end with a shot of not a series of tanks but a mass of tanks moving and shooting at each other in and around tank town. Use a backdrop of music that grabs attention and gets the warlike blood flowing like Gustav Holst "Mars, Bringer of war" And end with something like "All this and more is available for YOU to do in Aces High. FLY ACES HIGH DOT COM!!"
Another idea would be perfect to air during the show "Dogfights"
Open with a narrator "Like the maneuvers you just saw?" Then show various maneuvers with in game footage "The Immelman" "The Split S" "The Thatch Weave" etc etc.
Try your hand at putting them to the test with accurately modeled aircraft both with and against hundreds of real opponents in Aces high"
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Im in the tri state area of NY, NJ and Pennsy. Trust me. Everything here is faster then just about anyplace else in the country. We go and talk a mile a minute Especially conversation where I struggle to keep from smacking people just to "get to the point already"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
(I'm from PA agree 100%)
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Anyone remember that IL-2 video "Come With Me" featuring a Zeke pilot against F4Fs and SBDs? THAT is a great vid. The SBD vulch fest is brilliantly edited.
http://youtu.be/RuT6vzf-za4
We don't have clouds...
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I always pictured an ad for the game similar to something like this.....tells u exactly what the squad is about....what they do...whats in game etc etc
Just shrink it way down and hit on the high points
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5R5MBKGi8
See now tis was well done and more in line with what I'm talking about. Its more then a split second of any single aircraft. Tells somethign of a story and makes a point. And combines it with music that grabs you.
In an AH commercial at least 5 seconds minimum should be devoted to each aspect. This allows you to grasp what your seeing. Lay it out in some sort of story line and add a music hook to get you into the feel of what you are watching
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We don't have clouds...
Neither does the SBD vulch scene.
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Neither does the SBD vulch scene.
That was 12 seconds. I don't think they'll join over 12 seconds, lol
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Neither does the SBD vulch scene.
Are you saying that in your Morgan Freeman voice? :D
P.S. I highly recommend the movie 'Last Vegas.' :aok
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That was 12 seconds. I don't think they'll join over 12 seconds, lol
It was longer than that as the scene isn't over until the Wildcats have their say....
That said, better hook them in 12 seconds or they click SKIP AD.
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It was longer than that as the scene isn't over until the Wildcats have their say....
That said, better hook them in 12 seconds or they click SKIP AD.
True. I thought you could skip YouTube ads in 6 seconds.
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True. I thought you could skip YouTube ads in 6 seconds.
if your an unfortunate soul you have the watch the whole 30 seconds
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Hire Morgan Freeman for the voice-over! :rock
We have a professional voice over guy in our ranks. In fact, he did the V.O.'s on the two Military Channel commercials. I'd put him up against Morgan Freeman :old:
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If I had an option between the new vs. old (on History Channel),
old ad was much better :aok
:cheers: Oz
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Ok...
1st the ad should open with a flow of bombers and than continue with different videos from FSO/Scenario with real voice recordings... For example, take real videos from last Battle of Britain Scenario... They are amazing
And while the cool images with subtitles saying (real gameplay photage) than you comment on the fact that it is a great game features etc...
It really does not look good...
my $0.02
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How about a powerpoint presentation with 2 hours of charts & graphs? I know some guy who could also provide a monotonous German accented voiceover... :old:
This would be right up my alley. Probably a good reason to NOT try appealing to the pub-lick with it.
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I think no matter how good the video is; if it is not promoted it will have no effect. It’s kind of like putting a very effective billboard in your basement. HT has a customer base that has a vested interest in the game drawing new customers.
Maybe on a limited time basis, HT could pay x perkies for the community to link, hashtag, share the video on twitter, facebook, whatever.
IE Twitter
Check out HTxyz.youtube.com. Try shooting down a WWII german bomber in a P51 #HTtrackinghashtag
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How about a powerpoint presentation with 2 hours of charts & graphs? I know some guy who could also provide a monotonous German accented voiceover... :old:
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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+1
We got GOT! :bhead
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I just wonder what happened to that Playroom stuff?
There must be more footage available than a flight of B17's in numbers we rarely see .....
WarThunder / World of Warplanes is running TV ads in the Netherlands!
Why? The Dutch are dumb enough to spend a lot! of money on games ( second after phone sex :bhead ), especially online MMO's. Those ads are short, fast and action loaded. And the name sticks....
The ad presented here completely fails to represent the "addictive" powers of this simulation as well as missing out on the various facettes of the game.
Carry on!
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Well one positive thing about it the video was optimized for smart phone viewing. The graphics looked really crisp on my iPhone 4S. Most videos I watch in the video forum look like crap on my phone.
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People still don't get that the ad is clearly a joke? :headscratch:
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Get over it already. :lol
bahhh hahaha Get over what nobody?
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No such thing as bad PR.... :uhoh
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We have a professional voice over guy in our ranks. In fact, he did the V.O.'s on the two Military Channel commercials. I'd put him up against Morgan Freeman :old:
He's too busy with BBQ cook offs :lol
SB
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Muzik, I believe the shot of the super large formation of bombers is to show what can be done in AH.
Showing people what you might see once a year is almost false advertising. Even if the normal "big missions" happened more often than they do, they hardly justify that clip.
I'm not saying it's some unforgivable evil, it's just deceptive and diminishes the integrity of the company in some small way.
Anyway I'm not going to lie. My point was an underhanded I told you so. It demonstrates that the devs acknowledged those massive formations are an iconic image of ww2 and a sought after aspect in an air combat game.
Unfortunately they do not exist in AH with any regularity or predictability. And if they did, the strategic foundation for their use needs work.
Maybe the recent strat changes are a sign of ongoing game changes. If so, fantastic.
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Isn't it a waste of energy to make a promotional video, fan made or not, before the upcoming game engine update?
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He's too busy with BBQ cook offs :lol
SB
12 year old Balvenie outranks a chewy, burnt brisket <g,d,r>
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bahhh hahaha Get over what nobody?
I hurt your feelings. You still seem a bit raw that I made fun of your
'Lets increase bomber drones by a factor of almost ten' wish. Honestly
I wasn't even that harsh but you couldn't handle criticism well. I'd say I'm
sorry I hurt those precious feelings but it may lead to one of your epic
public meltdown rants and, quite frankly, you make them way to easy to
accidentally step on. Just let go, son. You don't have to like me but
you don't have to be marked for life as a result of not being taken as
seriously as you unfortunately expect and periodically show the world. :D
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Showing people what you might see once a year is almost false advertising. Even if the normal "big missions" happened more often than they do, they hardly justify that clip.
I'm not saying it's some unforgivable evil, it's just deceptive and diminishes the integrity of the company in some small way.
Anyway I'm not going to lie. My point was an underhanded I told you so. It demonstrates that the devs acknowledged those massive formations are an iconic image of ww2 and a sought after aspect in an air combat game.
Unfortunately they do not exist in AH with any regularity or predictability. And if they did, the strategic foundation for their use needs work.
Maybe the recent strat changes are a sign of ongoing game changes. If so, fantastic.
And there it is. :D
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Isn't it a waste of energy to make a promotional video, fan made or not, before the upcoming game engine update?
No its not. Clearly this was made by someone who is enthused for the project and this is a first try. You should have seen my first videos. :rofl
Videomaking is a progressive skill and a very technical time intensive one. I could spend an entire day on an opening song montage for a wedding. Just for the opener.
It is also fascinating in todays environment. So much raw expressive power at the hands of anyone with a decent computer. Had I discovered the excitement of film/video story telling younger I wouldnt have spent 1/2 a lifetime pushing a BT car around a Ghetto. Its also a skill you accrue talent with only with the experience of time and energy invested. Boy you should have seen me teaching myself Adobe After Effects. :huh
A little to much negativity in this thread. Once the videomaker hits his stride he will get good quickly.
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In Arlo's voice, "Well if you think you can do better then submit an ad of your own."
Who are you? Sure couldn't do a lot wrse.
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Who are you? Sure couldn't do a lot wrse.
I was actually preempting his attack on you. I should get a thank you for cutting him off at the pass.
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I was actually pre-empting his attack on you. I should get a thank you for cutting him off at the pass.
You're just typing random make-no-sense-whatsoever stuff now, arentcha? (Well, no real difference then) :D
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We got GOT! :bhead
Speak for yourself!
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
At first I thought,WTF :headscratch: and then I replayed the ad and listened carefully to what was said and then I just :rofl :rofl :rofl
Now if this can carry on for a few more pages HTC will have pulled the real MOAT!
YMMV.
:salute
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Can we have an advert with zack1234 naked? :headscratch: or at least in his tight briefs?
(http://gaia.adage.com/images/bin/image/rightrail/0917p5-The-Most-Interesting-Man-in-the-World.jpg?1347661058)
Zack1234: I don't always fly air-combat sims, but when I do, it's Aces High.
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We don't have clouds...
We have them in scenarios:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201309_BattleOfBritain2013/pics/frame2/020-bombsAway-SNAG-0034.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201210_derGrosseSchlagII/pics/frame3/017-hit38-SNAG-0024.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/misc/9950/200711_zz/pics/frame3/011-headOnSpit-SNAG-0016.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201110_enemyCoastAhead/pics/frame2/003-lure-Image-0004.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201102_battleOverGermany/pics/frame2/015-goForIt-Image-0024.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201003_finalBattle/pics/frame3/007-rocGoesIn-Image-0009.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200910_redStormKruppSteel/pics/frame2/027-otw7-Image-0059.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200907_coralSea2009/pics/frame1/032-otwBack-Image-0094.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200811_battleOfBritain2008/pics/frame3/011-breakOff-Image-0021.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200710_derGrosseSchlag/pics/frame4/Image-0058.jpg)
(http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/stalins_fourth/pics/frame2/014-bottomAttack.jpg)
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And those may be the best films to build an ad around. I'd solicit the community to submit their event films (post graphics update). Too bad Dolby has decided to never make (or share) another film because he's paranoid about his game mailbox. He could have a field day and garner a lot (more) community appreciation and recognition
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I was actually preempting his attack on you. I should get a thank you for cutting him off at the pass.
You should really follow the conversation before posting.
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I hurt your feelings.
LOL There's that self perpetuating ignorance again. You didn't hurt my feelings NUKE, just contaminated another thread.
Your ignorant logic seems to mistake my commenting on your pathetic BBS trolling as some kind of vengeful act. It wasn't actually about you, it was about steering a new guy away from our number 1 special ed troll.
As for the formations, I was right all along and I knew it. In the event, you failed miserably at making any rational argument and here we are looking at film of what? Go ahead, say it. You can't get any more wrong. I have no reason to feel hurt, every reason to LOL.
it may lead to one of your epic public smackdowns
Fixed. Want another one?
Perhaps you should try to improve your in game skills, because your attempts at dominating the BBS will never rid you of your feelings of inadequacy, it only multiplies it.
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Now if this can carry on for a few more pages HTC will have pulled the real MOAT!
Amen! :lol
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(Meh)
Way too much effort and emotion to look like anything other than defensive denial. Look, kid, I understand that any sort of criticism sets you off on a tear ... and I know why. I also know you hold a grudge as tightly as you hold your blankie. Part of me worries for ya .... but not much. :D
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You didn't hurt my feelings NUKE, just contaminated another thread.
If you're implying that Arlo is nuke... :rofl
They are not the same person.
ack-ack
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Arlo's secret identity is Olra.
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Arlo's secret identity is Olra.
Cdr. Olra. I replaced Cdr. Rialb.
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If you're implying that Arlo is nuke... :rofl
They are not the same person.
ack-ack
I take it Nuke hurt his feelings at some point.
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You should really follow the conversation before posting.
:rolleyes:
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If you're implying that Arlo is nuke... :rofl
They are not the same person.
ack-ack
I believe he is referencing Nuke LaLoosh of Bull Durham fame. The pitcher with a blazing fastball, destined for greatness but had to be coddled by an experienced catcher because he was unprepared, arrogant for no reason, cocky for even less reason and a total dumbazz.
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See Rule #4
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Folks, let's see if we can contain the bashing to the video, and not to the people of the community.
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Folks, let's see if we can contain the bashing to the video, and not to the people of the community.
Hahaha you must be new here
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See Rules #2, #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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Hmmmmm lol. Well I think the video is creative, clever in an extremely corny way, and humorous. I enjoyed it. As far as it being an ad and attracting players, um no. :lol
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Okay be honest Skuzzy, did the rest of the team force you to post this because they thought it was a stinker? I assume you had to buy lunch for losing the bet. :lol
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Thank you Muzik interpreter. :aok
You're very welcome :rofl
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Hahaha you must be new here
:lol :rofl
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I can't see the video, was it taken down?
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Hahaha you must be new here
:rofl :aok
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We have them in scenarios:
Is that the 111 shot BEFORE or AFTER I shot down tudza??? :noid
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(http://i58.tinypic.com/2s84ps2.jpg)
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I can't see the video, was it taken down?
No, it is still up.
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funny cause it is a black screen with audio only for me. what have i not updated? :huh
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funny cause it is a black screen with audio only for me. what have i not updated? :huh
Not sure. Flash player?
just checked it again… still working.
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Not sure. Flash player?
just checked it again… still working.
Works fine here, too. Opens in Windows Media tho :headscratch:
Doesn't make it any better...... :devil
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can we see ad1 and ad2 as well?
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:confused: :uhoh OMG pleeeeeeeeeeze dont air that anywhere. Been here since 2nd beta, love the helloutta this game n think htc rox for puttin up with all the whiners over the years.....
but
I MUST say..
THAT is embarrassing
Only 1/2 way enjoyable part was the one high pitched dudes Curly impression
Hard to believe anyone actually reviewed the finished product and said, "yep, IM happy with that"
elfy
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Folks, I think HTC has the feedback it needs by now. An effort was put forth to promote the game and I still believe it was a clever pitch. The community is always begging for upcoming info; well you got some.
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Folks, I think HTC has the feedback it needs by now. An effort was put forth to promote the game and I still believe it was a clever pitch. The community is always begging for upcoming info; well you got some.
People still have not seen this ad because not everyone logs into the forum daily. I think every single person who disliked this ad should post in here even if it takes months of this damn thread being up.. that way it sinks in and we never find ourselves watching something like that again.
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People still have not seen this ad because not everyone logs into the forum daily. I think every single person who disliked this ad should post in here even if it takes months of this damn thread being up.. that way it sinks in and we never find ourselves watching something like that again.
Blu,
You dont seriously believe it's real do you? Look at the GD forum,just the topics and then go watch the ad again and listen to what is said,might help if you dont actually watch the vid! :rofl
But we need to keep this going as it needs quite afew more pages to qualify as the MoaT.
:salute
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Blu,
You dont seriously believe it's real do you? Look at the GD forum,just the topics and then go watch the ad again and listen to what is said,might help if you dont actually watch the vid! :rofl
But we need to keep this going as it needs quite afew more pages to qualify as the MoaT.
:salute
I'm not arguing if its real or if we are being trolled.. I would rather be trolled out of the two options anyway, even if its a trolling ad, it sucked the fatty to.
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Can we have the text of the video in text format? thanks :angel:
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Any chance of getting the video/sound timeline? That's important for timing suggestions.
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I'm not arguing if its real or if we are being trolled.. I would rather be trolled out of the two options anyway, even if its a trolling ad, it sucked the fatty to.
I would think that was the point,an ad that sux isnt worth the effort!
With all the complaints on the forum about the lack of this or that and we need this and that I think HTC just did what everyone was asking for but did so tongue in cheek. But hey I dont want to stop this discussion at all,I've been enjoying the comedy alot!
Maybe the boys at THC were into a couple of fatties and thats why they did it! :rofl
carry on!
:salute
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Hopefully they didn't go through with their threat to post it on Youtube. They should wait until the new terrain/water/lighting is implemented and use some of the player-posted ideas or hire professionals to do the ads. At the very least, the "voice talent" should stick to their day jobs. :(
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In my opinion, it wasn't good :uhoh but I still support it and will share it through social outlets. The game needs to grow with new subscribers all that it can. (On a side note: People should be considerate when people ask for help thru the orange text and not be a donkeys-arse about it) :mad:
Perhaps, it should have involved video of all aspects of the game with thriving music along with it. :airplane:
:salute
27th
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I thought it was fine, Skuzzy.
I do agree it might be better to show the cockpits off that have been redone to the new standards but thought it was a decent video ad overall. It was meant for YouTube after all, not PrimeTime...
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What about shawk on stool on a slowly rotating platform, the camera is fixed on him hes simply repeats play aces high over and over, maybe get some dry ice in shot and a backing track, something by enya. The advert lasts maybe 5 minutes but never changes?
how about him in a straight jacket on that stool sayin "i gotta play aces high" :joystick:
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Instead of everyone point out what is wrong, point out what it needs to be right.
1. It needs to be as good as the game is for us. A lot of us feel passionate about Aces High and it could also be portrayed in there as well.
2. It needs to look like you took some time making an ad and that you care about the product you're advertising.
3. It needs to look like it's made in 2014, not 1993. Smooth modern looking screen transitions, verbiage and materials used, and the background music.
4. It needs background audio chatter with video from in-game like we often hear in SEA events, or squad night in the MA or AvA. And use some footage from TrackIR players for crips sake.
5. And it needs to also include tanks and ships. While they're not the Bread&Butter of AH, they're still pretty cool in a MMOG.
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Courtesy of Brooke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI)
I enjoyed the film when I first watched it, however watching the start of it again what is really, gripping, spine tingling is the chatter.
Hurricanes! 12 O'Clock... you can really feel the tension. It's not acting, or voice over or commentary. It's a group of people totally absorbed in their virtual environment. It's not.. oh some hurricanes, but I'm ok sat at my pc. It's "Oh ****, hurricanes and they're trying to kill me"! If you can start the add, black screen with a few seconds of this chatter or similar, engine noise and guns firing... then cut to combat eye candy and music, I think the chatter would make for a great hook, even if you just fade it out after the initial few seconds.
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I know music is a great sticking point given copyrights etc, could Hitech make the music he used available as part of an ad challenge? I'd be up for it!
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Not a fan.
It's needs action. Dramatic music. Explosions. fighters in combat. And a deeper dramatic voice not some redneck sounding retards.
We prefer the term "Appalachian American"
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As far as I can tell, 80% of the knights are redneck sounding. While about 5% of the total game population, populate this forum who on an aside seem to be redneck discriminatory, while trying to convince the world they are the game's norm in this public forum.
Hitech is not slow on the ball. I wonder, on the bish and rook sides, how much of the range chatter is redneck sounding? Unless the advertisement is simply a pot stirring joke to get you guys brain storming. Advertisements usually target demographics or a demographic with money interested in the core concepts being sold. Question should be, is this an eyes on type, or a results type of advertisement?
WW2 Air Combat Simm based in Texas. Rednecks have been the patriotic backbone of our armed forces since the dawn of our Republic for some strange reason. Preponderance of redneck sounding voices on range VOX. Money is usually very quiet, but, easy to follow by billing addresses. Consumer demographics can be charted for advertisements. And if 80% of the game is redneck sounding. Well, then HTC knows where it's revenue is coming from.
I will lean towards Hitech stirring the pot to get you non redneck sounding gentlemen brains storming.
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I wonder, on the bish and rook sides, how much of the range chatter is redneck sounding?
Rooks sound about 40% redneck/40% stoned off their azz/15% squeeker/5% professional announcer. The times I've flown Bish, the same. :D
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just a bunch of flying to top gun music would probably work....with subtitles describing game play!!!! great effort
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Courtesy of Brooke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI)
I enjoyed the film when I first watched it, however watching the start of it again what is really, gripping, spine tingling is the chatter.
Hurricanes! 12 O'Clock... you can really feel the tension. It's not acting, or voice over or commentary. It's a group of people totally absorbed in their virtual environment. It's not.. oh some hurricanes, but I'm ok sat at my pc. It's "Oh ****, hurricanes and they're trying to kill me"! If you can start the add, black screen with a few seconds of this chatter or similar, engine noise and guns firing... then cut to combat eye candy and music, I think the chatter would make for a great hook, even if you just fade it out after the initial few seconds.
Our Finest Hour!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTjwe9dhL4
:D
I know what You mean though F77, everytime I watch These back I would rather just be in a spot of cloud over the channel scouring the sky for the bad men. They are AH in all it's glory and it was an honour to fight in it friend or foe.
*Wishes there was a bofb event every September!
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Courtesy of Brooke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9V66e88eI)
I enjoyed the film when I first watched it, however watching the start of it again what is really, gripping, spine tingling is the chatter.
Hurricanes! 12 O'Clock... you can really feel the tension. It's not acting, or voice over or commentary. It's a group of people totally absorbed in their virtual environment. It's not.. oh some hurricanes, but I'm ok sat at my pc. It's "Oh ****, hurricanes and they're trying to kill me"! If you can start the add, black screen with a few seconds of this chatter or similar, engine noise and guns firing... then cut to combat eye candy and music, I think the chatter would make for a great hook, even if you just fade it out after the initial few seconds.
Agreed.. Hammer home the game is centered on the fact that you are battling against other players. I like the idea of utilizing voice chatter, the intense stuff that keeps us on the edges of our seats!!! The highs and the lows of ACES HIGH!
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I remember the first time I saw Star Wars and that massive Star Destroyer crept across the screen. I was floored! Or the beginning of Top Gun with the F-14 engines throttling up on the aircraft carrier. That scene still gives me chills when I watch it almost 30 years later! Now those are openings that grab your attention! You need to showcase the action, air combat, dogfights, massive bombing raids, explosions, and maybe have some voice over narration on top of the action emphasizing the highlights of the game, or maybe some pilot to pilot communication over the action, not the cheesy opening dialog in your video. Maybe open with the bomber formation creeping across the screen and filling the blue sky with their engines roaring and all of a sudden they're attacked by enemy fighters. Now that's an opening! C'mon guys, you're better than this!
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Skuzzy,
It has been quite a long time since I posted something here.
That ad had no hook. It didn't get me fired up about trying the game out at all.
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It has been quite a long time since I posted something here.
Yes, yes it has. Please don't let it happen again. Would be good to have you cruising around here.
- oldman
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Betty's first mission should be included in an ad :aok
http://www.56fg.net/members/yucca/upload/films/betty1.wmv
:cheers: Oz
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Yea the voice didnt cut it for me sounded like the ol dude from the purina dog food commercials.
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Yes, yes it has. Please don't let it happen again. Would be good to have you cruising around here.
- oldman
Agreed! Urchin I miss seeing you around,been way too long bud!
:salute
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We prefer the term "Appalachian American"
Jebus that was funny. :rofl :aok