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Title: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 10, 2024, 04:41:12 PM
Tonight! We'll at least the clowns will be there..

See why are enemies laugh at us and the dismal future of the country regardless what side wins...

My guess is they've let in enough illegal immigrants to swing it to the liberal clown show..another 4 years of RECORD inflation, record debt, record illegal immigration and endless world wars..yeah!

I might be able to stomach 5 minutes of the "debate" if I'm lucky..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: nopoop on September 10, 2024, 05:42:01 PM
Give it a shot Eagler. I am.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: nopoop on September 10, 2024, 05:51:02 PM
Who knows, it may be a better clown show then the one here   :D
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 10, 2024, 05:57:42 PM
Who knows, it may be a better clown show then the one here   :D

Nah... our clowns put on a better show. Same Narcissism though. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 10, 2024, 08:34:19 PM
Nah... our clowns put on a better show. Same Narcissism though. :rolleyes:

I think it's close...the ones here at least won't be running the country in a few months... :eek:

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 10, 2024, 10:54:10 PM
It seemed a little one sided and INconsequential.   :uhoh
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 10, 2024, 11:06:41 PM
It seemed a little one sided and INconsequential.   :uhoh

Ya, think. 
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 11, 2024, 06:51:07 AM
Yeh, I’m itching to watch an orchestrated watermelon show between a demented old man and someone s who climbed the political ladder using nothing but “head game”.This whole universal suffrage thing is a mistake.

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 11, 2024, 07:19:18 AM
Choice between what has been wrong with the country for decades but specifically the last 4 years or a braggart, exaggerating,  can't articulate anything truthfully nor completely and is hated and despised by both sides of the corrupt political coin and our bias media...

Should be an interesting sheetshow the next 90 days if not four years..just hope we can get through what is coming next..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: icepac on September 11, 2024, 07:53:41 AM
Clearly a 3 vs 1 scenario.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 11, 2024, 07:54:13 AM
The 1960 election had its own controversy as to the legitimacy of the results but at least the debating was civil and informative..



Compare that to the joke that was televised globally last night..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 11, 2024, 07:56:32 AM
Clearly a 3 vs 1 scenario.

Did anyone expect anything different?

If they did they are even more clueless than responsible voting should permit..imo...

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 09:05:58 AM
I think that's called "3 ring" circus. The lion was doing the taming though.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: nopoop on September 11, 2024, 09:13:41 AM
I bailed at 15 minutes
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 09:34:21 AM
I stuck it out but I might as well have been yelling at the clouds.

(https://i.postimg.cc/y6nmjMcy/Old-Man-Yells-at-cloud-cover.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 11:24:09 AM
The repeat kaleidoscope meltdowns were awesome, very stable genius exhibit.

Reminded me of someone on 70s acid trip being spanked by a french maid.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Banshee7 on September 11, 2024, 11:28:41 AM
My favorite part so far has been the arguments on social media afterwards.  :rofl
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 11, 2024, 12:10:11 PM
The repeat kaleidoscope meltdowns were awesome, very stable genius exhibit.

Reminded me of someone on 70s acid trip being spanked by a french maid.

Now watch what you say. He said, "Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison." That could get extended to Lefties.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 12:11:29 PM
One side wants a rematch. The other doesn't but is willing with if it is 1 vs 1 next time.

$50K to first time home buyers and a $6K child tax credit. Inflation and high home prices? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 12:15:19 PM
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Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 12:28:55 PM
One side wants a rematch. The other doesn't but is willing with if it is 1 vs 1 next time.

$50K to first time home buyers and a $6K child tax credit. Inflation and high home prices? You ain't seen nothing yet.

Two fact checks on actual mega lies must be painful for his worshipers. Ya know, like abortions at 9mos. And eating pets.

Going to rat my first poodle today, we don’t use Ketchup here tho, mustard, tomato, onions, peppers and pickle. Never use ketchup on a dog.


Ya has tu b actully telin a lie, to be calld out on a lye. So yup, it might luk lopsided when only one lied and only one got calld outs on em

Yall r gunna exhaust urselves acting ignant so much
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 12:50:39 PM
There are 9 states with no, none, nada, zero, zilch, limits on abortions. Who's lying now?

https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state

There have been many calls to police about suspicious pet disappearances in Springfield Ohio. The cops are ignoring the calls. The DOJ says crime is up dramatically in the US. The FBI doesn't trust their own numbers.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 01:04:48 PM
Personally I don't mind someone having BBQ feline. I draw the line at dogs though. I like dogs. As pets, not dinner.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 11, 2024, 01:28:09 PM
Personally I don't mind someone having BBQ feline. I draw the line at dogs though. I like dogs. As pets, not dinner.


Dog is much tastier than cat. Dog tastes like a cross between pork and deer. It has the sweetness of pork and the gamey/stringy like deer. It’s not great, but it isn’t horrible either. Cat tastes like a cross between mutton and a trash can.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 01:42:28 PM
You hear about the traveling salesman that visited a farm once? He saw a three legged pig there and asked the farmer about it. The farmer said oh that's a special pig. Not long ago the house caught fire and that pig dragged everyone to safety. The salesman asked if that's how the pig lost his leg. The farmer said no and well, you know, a pig that special you just don't eat all at once.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 02:02:57 PM
There are 9 states with no, none, nada, zero, zilch, limits on abortions. Who's lying now?

https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state

There have been many calls to police about suspicious pet disappearances in Springfield Ohio. The cops are ignoring the calls. The DOJ says crime is up dramatically in the US. The FBI doesn't trust their own numbers.

Well he did say exterminate after birth, which is murder, which is not legal anywhere.

Name the states, I’ll research it myself.

Btw, miscarriage is not abortion, if the baby is already deceased. Give m a case where a abortion was made at 9 mos.

How can you be intelligent in other things yet drop the ball on politics?

He lied and you’re repeating the lie, simple


I found no states where abortion is legal at 9 mos (36 wks), which was the correction.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
This is not what Trump said but look at it. Then look at the link I posted previously which lists every states abortion laws. You are the sort of person they are counting on. Believing everything they say.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/08/06/under-gov-tim-walz-babies-born-alive-in-botched-abortions-were-left-to-die-then-he-removed-reporting-requirements/

Here, in case you can't find it: https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state

Here's another source to correct your false statement. https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/state-policies-abortion-bans
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 02:23:34 PM

He lied and you’re repeating the lie, simple


I found no states where abortion is legal at 9 mos (36 wks), which was the correction.

So, once again. Who is lying and who is repeating their lie?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 02:28:29 PM
This is not what Trump said but look at it. Then look at the link I posted previously which lists every states abortion laws. You are the sort of person they are counting on. Believing everything they say.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/08/06/under-gov-tim-walz-babies-born-alive-in-botched-abortions-were-left-to-die-then-he-removed-reporting-requirements/

Here, in case you can't find it: https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state

Here's another source to correct your false statement. https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/state-policies-abortion-bans

Umm, me thinks you should watch the clip I’m referring to again. What statement was false, i said his lie and the correction of the lie by the moderator.

Staying on point, correcting lies is not unbalanced. When ya lie more ya get corrected more.

<shrug> easy math.
He got his butt handed to him.



Hold on, big brother is knocking.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 02:32:02 PM
This is what Trump specifically referred to. He did not lie.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/virginia-governor-defends-letting-infants-die/

You intentionally ignorant if you do not believe 9 states allow abortion up to birth. It's right there in their laws accessible to anyone.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 11, 2024, 02:33:17 PM
This boils down to the corrupt jackarse I like is better than the corrupt jackarse you like.
Both those clowns lack the expertise to pour piss out of a boat with instructions written on the heel. Well, at least Harris has good head game, I suppose that’s a skill.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 02:35:59 PM
So, once again. Who is lying and who is repeating their lie?

Orange flame lied, he got called out, his worshipers are horrified anyone pointed out his lies to his face.

Yall just repeat what he says as truth.

Reality is, the arguments are weak for a reason, they don’t care about the points, any one will do, its any reason to hate. They don’t have to make sense.  And they usually don’t. Any feabkr reason to hate, it doesn’t have to make sense nor properly defend. Wait 5 min, they’ll have s new one after this one is debunked. A gatling gun of weak excuses, because they just don’t matter. <shrug>
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 02:37:22 PM
For those of us who live here the difference is measured in quality of life between the last 3.5 years and the 4 years before that. Not how pleasant or unpleasant someone may be. Well, and whether they start WWIII or not. Those who don't live here might be concerned about that too.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2024, 02:38:19 PM
Orange flame lied, he got called out, his worshipers are horrified anyone pointed out his lies to his face.

Yall just repeat what he says as truth.

Reality is, the arguments are weak for a reason, they don’t care about the points, any one will do, its any reason to hate. They don’t have to make sense.  And they usually don’t. Any feabkr reason to hate, it doesn’t have to make sense nor properly defend. Wait 5 min, they’ll have s new one after this one is debunked. A gatling gun of weak excuses, because they just don’t matter. <shrug>



I presented you with facts from more than one source. All you do is regurgitate what they tell you. I'm wasting my time.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 11, 2024, 02:38:44 PM
Don't get why they aren't happy with states setting abortion policies...if everyone is all for abortion it shouldn't be an issue in their state..

It shouldn't be handed down from the fed level imo..

If the state doesn't like what it's leader setup, they can vote them out and more brain dead liberal leadership in..

The less control at the fed level the better..that goes for most things

It's why we have states and not a huge blob of ineffective government at the federal level..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 11, 2024, 02:41:00 PM
This boils down to the corrupt jackarse I like is better than the corrupt jackarse you like.
Both those clowns lack the expertise to pour piss out of a boat with instructions written on the heel. Well, at least Harris has good head game, I suppose that’s a skill.

Sadly this ^^^^...but one of these clowns will be running the show in 3 months...that should scare the hell out of everyone

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 11, 2024, 02:43:38 PM
Don't get why they aren't happy with states setting abortion policies...if everyone is all for abortion it shouldn't be an issue in their state..

It shouldn't be handed down from the fed level imo..

If the state doesn't like what it's leader setup, they can vote them out and more brain dead liberal leadership in..

The less control at the fed level the better..that goes for most things

It's why we have states and not a huge blob of ineffective government at the federal level..

Eagler

The problem is when women cross state lines to get abortions. At that point it becomes a federal issue. It would be like Wyoming arresting someone who went to Colorado to get high. Certain laws need to be uniform across all states just for simplicity. FYI, abortion is the wrong hill for republicans to die on.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 02:47:11 PM
Odd, they fact checked her too

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/factchecking-the-harris-trump-debate/
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 11, 2024, 02:51:24 PM
Odd, they fact checked her too

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/factchecking-the-harris-trump-debate/

You don’t by any chance happen to have a neck beard do you?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 02:55:53 PM
You don’t by any chance happen to have a neck beard do you?

nope.

Changing subject? Asking for a friend with a neck beard.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 11, 2024, 03:11:31 PM
The problem is when women cross state lines to get abortions. At that point it becomes a federal issue. It would be like Wyoming arresting someone who went to Colorado to get high. Certain laws need to be uniform across all states just for simplicity. FYI, abortion is the wrong hill for republicans to die on.

I agree..they will lose on it given the pulse of the nation today but it should be a states right not federal imo..but I don't think anyone would be arrested for crossing state line to have the procedure done..it would be political suicide

States that have strict laws already...6 weeks...now have abortion rights on the ballot in November..

Give it time and states will have what the majority of
that state want..

The same can't be said for just about anything at the federal level

I just want to see all voting validated with proper ID with only US citizens being given ballots and actually allowed to cast a vote..not like the way many think it's going to go..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 03:46:28 PM
I agree..they will lose on it given the pulse of the nation today but it should be a states right not federal imo..but I don't think anyone would be arrested for crossing state line to have the procedure done..it would be political suicide

States that have strict laws already...6 weeks...now have abortion rights on the ballot in November..

Give it time and states will have what the majority of
that state want..

The same can't be said for just about anything at the federal level

I just want to see all voting validated with proper ID with only US citizens being given ballots and actually allowed to cast a vote..not like the way many think it's going to go..

Eagler

Its already illegal for non-citizens to vote, since day one. No new laws required.
I’d like to see the election without intimidation at the polls.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 11, 2024, 03:52:12 PM
Don't get why they aren't happy with states setting abortion policies...if everyone is all for abortion it shouldn't be an issue in their state..

It shouldn't be handed down from the fed level imo..


Eagler

It's simpler than that for me. If any level of Government was to dictate to men what they can and cannot do with their own bodies, there would be a national rebellion. Why should women be treated differently? And save your personal (or Catholic) definitions on when life begins.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 11, 2024, 04:04:05 PM
It's simpler than that for me. If any level of Government was to dictate to men what they can and cannot do with their own bodies, there would be a national rebellion. Why should women be treated differently? And save your personal (or Catholic) definitions on when life begins.

gerrymandered states?

The people voted abortion rights in Ohio, yet reps refuse to implement the vote outcome, they have to be sued to force them to implement the will of the people in it.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 11, 2024, 09:36:17 PM
It's simpler than that for me. If any level of Government was to dictate to men what they can and cannot do with their own bodies, there would be a national rebellion. Why should women be treated differently? And save your personal (or Catholic) definitions on when life begins.

You're confused about who's "body" they're worried about. 

Don't start with your personal "when life begins" definition.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 12, 2024, 04:57:33 AM
What about when the brain or heart doesn’t develop and the baby will not survive outside yhe mothers body? Should they both die?

People talk about this as if every embryo is perfectly fine.

There is no blanket answer, and there shouldn’t be. It should be case by case. Blanket answers are for those not willing to think beyond a subject title.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 06:08:22 AM
Now watch what you say. He said, "Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison." That could get extended to Lefties.

https://x.com/kimmagagal2/status/1818393208889725167
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 06:12:56 AM
Personally I don't mind someone having BBQ feline. I draw the line at dogs though. I like dogs. As pets, not dinner.

It’s for Voodoo… not food, but it is consumed.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 06:19:46 AM
I bailed at 15 minutes

DJT finish/closing was hands down the best part… Wouldn’t have packed same punch if it was his opening but he’d have reached people like you that left.

Brazille no doubt pulled the same stunt as 8yrs ago only for Disney this time instead of CNN.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 06:36:38 AM
Two fact checks on actual mega lies must be painful for his worshipers. Ya know, like abortions at 9mos. And eating pets.

Going to rat my first poodle today, we don’t use Ketchup here tho, mustard, tomato, onions, peppers and pickle. Never use ketchup on a dog.


Ya has tu b actully telin a lie, to be calld out on a lye. So yup, it might luk lopsided when only one lied and only one got calld outs on em

Yall r gunna exhaust urselves acting ignant so much

Springfield, OH Police to suspect: “Did you eat that cat?” “Why did you kill that cat?”
To dispatch: “Call animal control to come pick this cat up, it’s deceased”. 
To witnesses: “Did you guys see all this”?
Witnesses “No we seen her with it when we pulled up, eating it…

https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1833723420099436693

https://rumble.com/v5e9qi5-a-27-year-old-woman-was-arrested-by-police-in-ohio-for-killing-a-cat-and-ea.html

Vid quality is better on Rumble ⬆️

The video of the migrant strangling Fluffy is way too graphic to post, I can PM if you insist.

Want more for each you claim is false?

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Meatwad on September 12, 2024, 06:39:18 AM
What do you expect when the 3rd world illegals are allowed free trespass and free reign in this country?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 12, 2024, 07:25:03 AM
Much bigger issues affecting this country than making abortion legal at anytime anywhere at the fed level...

Here's one: https://budget.house.gov/download/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-to-taxpayers&download=1

But they can't discuss those as they created/enhanced those problems over the last 4 years and she's just a guaranteed more of the same destruction...

Power has to go back and forth just to balance out the corruption each sides adds to the mess during each of their terms...

Give them 8 years and the crap gets real deep and is much harder if not impossible to correct

It's the tweeting exaggerating braggarts turn..as 4 more years of this insanity will be devastating

Anyone actually know who/what has been running the show the last 4 years given potato head hasn't known what day it is or the city he's in since he "won"" in 2020...

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 08:00:59 AM
And eating pets.

Going to rat my first poodle today, we don’t use Ketchup here tho, mustard, tomato, onions, peppers and pickle. Never use ketchup on a dog.


Ya has tu b actully telin a lie, to be calld out on a lye. So yup, it might luk lopsided when only one lied and only one got calld outs on em

Yall r gunna exhaust urselves acting ignant

An American born Haitian daughter of a legal immigrant discussing the newest “conspiracy theory” I.e. spoiler alert 👇 Actually if you were paying attention this story blew up last weekend, the only one in denial about it Tuesday night was the 💩 for 🧠  David Muir.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1834176196797722907

If you don’t have “Twitter” X most can be found on Rumble and TikTok but are banned on FB…
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 12, 2024, 08:07:54 AM
Springfield, OH Police to suspect: “Did you eat that cat?” “Why did you kill that cat?”
To dispatch: “Call animal control to come pick this cat up, it’s deceased”. 
To witnesses: “Did you guys see all this”?
Witnesses “No we seen her with it when we pulled up, eating it…

https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1833723420099436693

https://rumble.com/v5e9qi5-a-27-year-old-woman-was-arrested-by-police-in-ohio-for-killing-a-cat-and-ea.html

Vid quality is better on Rumble ⬆️

The video of the migrant strangling Fluffy is way too graphic to post, I can PM if you insist.

Want more for each you claim is false?

I stay away from political based videos. Many are staged, but worse, people get one piece of “evidence” and then claim they all do it.

Example; a few years ago, they came up with a video of 1000s rampaging the border and running inside everywhere. Very convincing. Boy the political people ranting raving angry as sin. However, it was found to be a video from another country. That happened s few times. Boy they really thought they had evidence, but said it was an epidemic. Then they got

That said, they did, and I watched them, do many videos with residences, every single one said they never even heard of such nonsense. Then this who provide “the magic evidence” get mad when you debunked it, instead if admitting they were duped.

That vid could be one incident about someone with mental issues.

Will i think one video tell me they all do it? Nope. Absolutely not. Research reports and data.

When som grt answers that don’t support the propaganda, they go after the source and go source shopping to find what says what they believe, no matter how ridiculous. Some people see ghost that aren’t there because they choose to see ghost that are not there.

Do they have a problem there? Yep thats been proven. Us it about eating pets? Nope

I know of a local white guy, back in the 80s, who killed the neighbors husky, skilled it, put the pelt on his wall, called it a wolf he killed. Does that mean all whites in that town do it? Anither was going around pouring lighter fluid on cats snd lighting them in fire, just to see it run around on fire until they died. Does that mean all white rednecks do it?

Yall believe what you choose, I suffer from being a realist. Takes more than a video or one article from reliable sources to debunk police and residence.

If you spend time around a court system you’d know that claiming all people do it because of one video of one person, prepare for it to be dismissed.

Paint me stupit


Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 08:10:44 AM
Umm, me thinks you should watch the clip I’m referring to again. What statement was false, i said his lie and the correction of the lie by the moderator.

Staying on point, correcting lies is not unbalanced. When ya lie more ya get corrected more.

<shrug> easy math.
He got his butt handed to him.



Hold on, big brother is knocking.

Another one by a man who now has more than nearly anyone ever at stake if he’s wrong:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1834079194600669580

Give me all the “lies”, I’ll debunk in minutes.  Want the “very fine people” next?  Ever watched the entire clip?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 08:18:56 AM
It’s a Police bodycam video, not political.

Stop making excuses, your media played you 1000x since 2016 all thru Covid and you’re still buying their junk. FFS 🤦‍♂️


Reading your post again it seems you’ve already pivoted from it was a lie, to now - one video isn’t going to convince you they ALL are eating ducks in the park and ppl’s pets.  HE NEVER SAID ALL

Need to see his Q/A again?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 12, 2024, 08:27:04 AM
Elon Musk I guarantee you is being extremely careful with re-posting currently given that he’s chosen sides. They already have him under investigation and want him in prison for “interference” except we’ve still got that 1A speed bump.

Thankfully.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 12, 2024, 01:08:56 PM
It’s for Voodoo… not food, but it is consumed.

I never understood how it could be considered a "sacrifice" if the pet you kill is not your own but someone else's. Maybe it's not about sacrifice but just about killing?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 12, 2024, 02:15:14 PM
What about when the brain or heart doesn’t develop and the baby will not survive outside yhe mothers body? Should they both die?

People talk about this as if every embryo is perfectly fine.

There is no blanket answer, and there shouldn’t be. It should be case by case. Blanket answers are for those not willing to think beyond a subject title.

Of course not.  But it doesn't matter one whit as long as most people (or at least average low-information types) continue to take the Extremes on both sides as cold hard fact.  IN every argument.

If people would learn to think again, we'd be ok. 

I ain't holding my breath. :bhead
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 12, 2024, 02:24:06 PM
Maybe let the states decide what they want in this regard and not force the will of the federal government on everyone? No one who demanded everyone get a covid vaccination has any right to talk about anyone having control over their own body.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 12, 2024, 02:24:31 PM
I never understood how it could be considered a "sacrifice" if the pet you kill is not your own but someone else's. Maybe it's not about sacrifice but just about killing?

Right.  Because you're sacrificing a life. People used to think life was precious.  Not so much these days.

Honest, I've never seen a cat or a dog getting processed (well, I saw Dogs being marketed like cattle in Korea).  But I've seen Goats sacrificed to backyard BBQs in the town Don Tyson doubled the size of with "undocumented" folks.  That's not hearsay.  That place has been experiencing "the wave" of undocumented for 30yrs.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 12, 2024, 02:32:22 PM
Maybe let the states decide what they want in this regard and not force the will of the federal government on everyone? No one who demanded everyone get a covid vaccination has any right to talk about anyone having control over their own body.

What a good idea...?  I dunno, lets find a Medium to summon Lincoln and ask him.

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 12, 2024, 03:22:12 PM
Right.  Because you're sacrificing a life. People used to think life was precious.  Not so much these days.

Honest, I've never seen a cat or a dog getting processed (well, I saw Dogs being marketed like cattle in Korea).  But I've seen Goats sacrificed to backyard BBQs in the town Don Tyson doubled the size of with "undocumented" folks.  That's not hearsay.  That place has been experiencing "the wave" of undocumented for 30yrs.

I always assumed a sacrifice should cost the person making the sacrifice. I spent a year in Korea and saw skinned dogs hanging in the market place too.

I ate from the street vendors there too. Probably ate some dog.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 12, 2024, 03:35:24 PM
They can eat every feral cat they can catch...it's the crime say murder and rape we are paying millions if not billions to bring into this country that's a much larger concern

It borders on treason as far as I see it..

That alone warrants a change of dc clowns imo

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 12, 2024, 04:00:06 PM
I always assumed a sacrifice should cost the person making the sacrifice. I spent a year in Korea and saw skinned dogs hanging in the market place too.

I ate from the street vendors there too. Probably ate some dog.

There used to be a "Kennel" on the coast next to Kunsan AB, you could see it if you were up on "Little Coyote" hill.  We could hear what was going on (terrible).     
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 12, 2024, 04:45:33 PM
Maybe let the states decide what they want in this regard and not force the will of the federal government on everyone? No one who demanded everyone get a covid vaccination has any right to talk about anyone having control over their own body.

Someone has to help me understand "state's rights". The constitution guarantees personal freedoms doesn't it? So help me understand how a woman's right to control her own body can be infringed by the state (or anyone else). Isn't anything that happens between an individual and their Doctor considered to be privileged?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 12, 2024, 04:54:19 PM
Someone has to help me understand "state's rights". The constitution guarantees personal freedoms doesn't it? So help me understand how a woman's right to control her own body can be infringed by the state (or anyone else). Isn't anything that happens between an individual and their Doctor considered to be privileged?

Do you think that's the biggest issue in this election?

Serious question as they are certainly trying to make it seem so..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: nopoop on September 12, 2024, 04:58:11 PM
Side note. In 2023 in the US there was over a million abortions.

They seem to getting it done...
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 12, 2024, 04:59:35 PM
Someone has to help me understand "state's rights". The constitution guarantees personal freedoms doesn't it? So help me understand how a woman's right to control her own body can be infringed by the state (or anyone else). Isn't anything that happens between an individual and their Doctor considered to be privileged?

Basically any power not specifically granted to the federal government is reserved to the states. Now since abortion is not mentioned in the US constitution it becomes a state problem. The problem arises when women travel from a state that’s illegal to one where it’s legal. Once that activity crosses state lines it becomes a federal matter.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 12, 2024, 05:02:05 PM
Do you think that's the biggest issue in this election?

Serious question as they are certainly trying to make it seem so..

Eagler
That’s why suffrage needs to be limited to people of a certain intelligence and whose name is on a deed to property. That will mitigate the single issue morons and those who can be swayed by some dancing monkey celebrity.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 12, 2024, 05:41:26 PM
Someone has to help me understand "state's rights". The constitution guarantees personal freedoms doesn't it? So help me understand how a woman's right to control her own body can be infringed by the state (or anyone else). Isn't anything that happens between an individual and their Doctor considered to be privileged?

I'm sure you've argued this repeatedly as have I and since it is deemed by some as political on these premises I won't argue it with you further. I will again say though that anyone who advocated forcing people to get vaccinations is a yuge hypocrite if they take your position on abortion.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 12, 2024, 05:45:29 PM
Guessing everyone has seen the news about the ABC whistleblower. Not that anyone capable of thinking didn't already know but proof could bring punishment for election interference.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 12, 2024, 06:13:04 PM
There used to be a "Kennel" on the coast next to Kunsan AB, you could see it if you were up on "Little Coyote" hill.  We could hear what was going on (terrible).   

TDY a couple of weeks at Kunsan in the mid 70's for the first Team Spirit. Out of Kadena. Visited A-Town. Osan for a year in '93-'94. 
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Meatwad on September 12, 2024, 06:45:07 PM
Elon Musk I guarantee you is being extremely careful with re-posting currently given that he’s chosen sides. They already have him under investigation and want him in prison for “interference” except we’ve still got that 1A speed bump.

Thankfully.

That seems to be the current plan now. Any opposition is "interference" and must be silenced one way or another. Sounds pretty Putin-ish
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 12, 2024, 09:34:51 PM
Someone has to help me understand "state's rights". The constitution guarantees personal freedoms doesn't it? So help me understand how a woman's right to control her own body can be infringed by the state (or anyone else). Isn't anything that happens between an individual and their Doctor considered to be privileged?

The issue is that some people are 100% sure (and will not have minds changed) that an unborn baby is a person, and the baby's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed by the Constitution.  Other people are 100% sure (and will not have their minds changed) that an unborn baby is not yet a person, and the mother has the right to abortion as part of her right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

You can't convince either side to adopt the other side's point of view on that.

If it's an issue that the Constitution doesn't cover (and the Constitution doesn't define abortion, or whether that counts as murder or not, or whether or not a foetus counts as a person in terms of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", etc.), then Constitutionally, it is a matter for States.  Not a matter for the Federal Government.  That's my opinion.  (But I am not an expert, just a person.)  That's the Supreme Court's opinion.  (But no matter what the Court decided, no matter what legal reasoning it used, a lot of people are going to be sure the Court got it wrong.)

When you have things determined by States, you at least have the right to move to another State.

When you have things determined by Federal Government, you have to move to another country (which is far more difficult).  And you don't have the right to do that -- other countries can deny you from doing that.

I think it's much better as a State issue.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 12, 2024, 09:55:10 PM
That seems to be the current plan now. Any opposition is "interference" and must be silenced one way or another. Sounds pretty Putin-ish

Pretty undeniable at this point and shows you just how scary things have gotten.  Especially when everyday citizens (some on this board) ignore what they see if that  means that their side wins.  Luckily (maybe too late) more and more pro-first amendment liberals with clout are risking their careers and speaking out.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 12, 2024, 10:06:53 PM
Do you think that's the biggest issue in this election?

Serious question as they are certainly trying to make it seem so..

Eagler

I could care less about election issues. I am asking about individual's right to privacy.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 12, 2024, 10:09:50 PM
Basically any power not specifically granted to the federal government is reserved to the states. Now since abortion is not mentioned in the US constitution it becomes a state problem. The problem arises when women travel from a state that’s illegal to one where it’s legal. Once that activity crosses state lines it becomes a federal matter.

So you're saying a women's rights to privacy is not equal througout the USA? What if they decided that men's rights to get a vasectomy were to be decided by state?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 12, 2024, 10:16:57 PM
I'm sure you've argued this repeatedly as have I and since it is deemed by some as political on these premises I won't argue it with you further. I will again say though that anyone who advocated forcing people to get vaccinations is a yuge hypocrite if they take your position on abortion.

I do not believe a woman's right to control her body is political (even though some goverment officials seem to want to make it so). As to vaccines and I believe you mean the COVID vaccine, I was not aware anyone was obliged to get the shot. To those who did not I am happy you survived.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: guncrasher on September 12, 2024, 10:57:25 PM
So you're saying a women's rights to privacy is not equal througout the USA? What if they decided that men's rights to get a vasectomy were to be decided by state?

years ago they warned us about old men who wanted to control women, except they were of a different religion.  now it became true in a lot of states, old men are controlling women and telling them what to do.


semp
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 12, 2024, 11:15:42 PM
What if they decided that men's rights to get a vasectomy were to be decided by state?

It might be that a state could do that.  I don't think the Federal Government could, as that doesn't seem to be one of its enumerated powers.

States do seem to have the ability to determine, in that state, what medicines I can and cannot obtain, whether or not I can practice medicine, practice law, drive a car, gamble, buy alcohol, be a home builder, start a nail salon, run a restaurant, drive a bus, sell produce from my farm, hunt deer, go fishing, build a shed in my back yard, have a swimming pool, play music outdoors, put a pond on my land, etc.

If a state sucks too much, I have the legal right to move.  (Which I did 3 years ago.)
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 12, 2024, 11:24:01 PM
years ago they warned us about old men who wanted to control women, except they were of a different religion.  now it became true in a lot of states, old men are controlling women and telling them what to do.


semp

There's great disagreement over it because some people (men and women) feel 100% that abortion is murder.  And other people (men and women) feel 100% that it is not.

I think it's best determined by states.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Dadtallica on September 13, 2024, 04:26:19 AM
Start naming me all the laws that restrict a man’s personal decisions concerning his own body?

Take your time.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 13, 2024, 05:32:22 AM
Sorry but it is an issue for a minority of women...not a bs promise to go against the SC ruling and try to reinstate it somehow...

They are just side stepping the huge mess they created that is staring at everyone right in their eyes ...and wallets..

We might be just too naive and gullible to fall for it and elect and even a larger puppet administration this go round..

Either way there's gonna be a bunch of upset ppl when their side loses .. add a good false flag at that time and the possibilities are endless

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: icepac on September 13, 2024, 05:58:20 AM
So many good candidates destroyed over the last 50 years when abortion is brought up.   

It’s only one issue of many but it’s all we hear about.   

So much talent lost that could have helped america.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 13, 2024, 06:32:12 AM
Start naming me all the laws that restrict a man’s personal decisions concerning his own body?

Take your time.

I’m not allowed to do that 8ball I’ve been yearning for.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 13, 2024, 07:27:14 AM
If the current administration loses, I can see a new and improved type of demonstration on 1/6 this time..so does dc it seems..



The riots before then after November results will make the 2020 summer of peaceful riots actually look peaceful

What kinda of restraint or encouragement do you think would come out of the losing left and it's bias media? Concerning to say the least..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 13, 2024, 07:55:51 AM
I do not believe a woman's right to control her body is political (even though some goverment officials seem to want to make it so). As to vaccines and I believe you mean the COVID vaccine, I was not aware anyone was obliged to get the shot. To those who did not I am happy you survived.

I take it you do not live in the US. I don't know where you are from but here people were kicked out of the military and fired from their jobs if they refused the "vaccination". Those who refused were reviled by politicians and celebrities. Death wishes were made publicly. All of those who participated in that witch hunt forever lost their right to talk about a "woman's body".
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 13, 2024, 10:38:30 AM
Start naming me all the laws that restrict a man’s personal decisions concerning his own body?

Take your time.

You live the simple life, don't you?   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 13, 2024, 10:40:20 AM
So many good candidates destroyed over the last 50 years when abortion is brought up.   

It’s only one issue of many but it’s all we hear about.   

So much talent lost that could have helped america.

Think of all of the unborn wasted talent over the decades.  We may have cured cancer by now.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 13, 2024, 10:49:36 AM
Think of all of the unborn wasted talent over the decades.  We may have cured cancer by now.


Just a hunch, but I suspect if aborted children were to reach adulthood, the most common outcome would be that of a street urchin. Most unwanted children who grow up in an environment of poverty and lack of nurture don’t do well in life. And before you bring up the 1/100000 like Warick Dunn and Dr Carson, I go by the 80% rule.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 13, 2024, 11:34:07 AM
If being a productive member of society were a requirement for life we'd have to kill a lot of people.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 13, 2024, 11:53:41 AM

Just a hunch, but I suspect if aborted children were to reach adulthood, the most common outcome would be that of a street urchin. Most unwanted children who grow up in an environment of poverty and lack of nurture don’t do well in life. And before you bring up the 1/100000 like Warick Dunn and Dr Carson, I go by the 80% rule.

Sounds like a justification for human purging then.       
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 13, 2024, 12:02:28 PM
Sounds like a justification for human purging then.     


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Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 13, 2024, 01:02:24 PM
Start naming me all the laws that restrict a man’s personal decisions concerning his own body?

Take your time.

I can't:
-- take medicines that aren't governmentally approved (even if I have late-stage cancer and will die if I don't give something a try).
-- get medical procedures that aren't governmentally approved (even if I am 100% certain it would help me and am willing to sign a waver).
-- sell one my kidneys for $250,000.
-- take various drugs.
-- pay someone to kill me.
-- get assisted suicide in any state.

But that is all missing the point.

People against abortion believe that abortion is murder of another person.  They don't want murder of another person to be legal.

People for abortion don't believe that abortion is murder.  They want the mother to have the freedom to get that procedure done.

However, the Constitution doesn't decide whether or not a fetus or 20-week baby is a person.  Even if it did decide an N-week baby is not a person, the Constitution still does not have the power to force every State to make abortion legal.  Because states have the power to make even life-saving medical treatments and medicines illegal if the treatments and medicines don't pass the state's laws or bureaucratic rules.

Anti-abortion people want the Federal Government to force all states to make abortion illegal.

Pro-abortion people want the Federal Government to force all states to make abortion legal.

I think that they are both wrong.  It is now and should remain a matter for the people of each State to decide.


Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 13, 2024, 01:08:15 PM
I think many, if not most, pro-life people are Constitutionalists and know that the 10th Amendment applies here.


For those not familiar with the US Constitution and too lazy to look it up:

Tenth Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 13, 2024, 02:06:22 PM
I can't:
-- take medicines that aren't governmentally approved (even if I have late-stage cancer and will die if I don't give something a try).
-- get medical procedures that aren't governmentally approved (even if I am 100% certain it would help me and am willing to sign a waver).
-- sell one my kidneys for $250,000.
-- take various drugs.
-- pay someone to kill me.
-- get assisted suicide in any state.

But that is all missing the point.

People against abortion believe that abortion is murder of another person.  They don't want murder of another person to be legal.

People for abortion don't believe that abortion is murder.  They want the mother to have the freedom to get that procedure done.

However, the Constitution doesn't decide whether or not a fetus or 20-week baby is a person.  Even if it did decide an N-week baby is not a person, the Constitution still does not have the power to force every State to make abortion legal.  Because states have the power to make even life-saving medical treatments and medicines illegal if the treatments and medicines don't pass the state's laws or bureaucratic rules.

Anti-abortion people want the Federal Government to force all states to make abortion illegal.

Pro-abortion people want the Federal Government to force all states to make abortion legal.

I think that they are both wrong.  It is now and should remain a matter for the people of each State to decide.

I feel confident that the Framers would have sided with the pro-life crowd had it been an issue back then, but as you pointed out, this was not addressed in the Constitution therefore correctly ruled a state matter.  Every pro-life person I know agrees with the SCOTUS ruling, while I only know a few pro-choice people who have a problem with the ruling, and they are liberal.  This has become a campaign talking point for the left, nothing more.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 13, 2024, 02:16:20 PM
Every pro-life person I know agrees with the SCOTUS ruling, while I only know a few pro-choice people who have a problem with the ruling, and they are liberal.  This has become a campaign talking point for the left, nothing more.

I would like to see the same treatment for medical therapies -- each state deciding what it will or won't allow.  No unconstitutional FDA working to enforce nation-wide bans on medical therapies.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 13, 2024, 03:21:16 PM
TDY a couple of weeks at Kunsan in the mid 70's for the first Team Spirit. Out of Kadena. Visited A-Town. Osan for a year in '93-'94.

A-Town was a hoot.  Basically closed in the late 90s, at least regarding how it was run previously.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 13, 2024, 03:56:16 PM
There were topless dancers in the Airman's club and a Massage parlor on the base at Kunsan when I was there. I think all that changed not long after.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 14, 2024, 07:27:00 AM
If the media doesn't research and report on a story I guess they can then say it's not true and anyone saying it does is lying...







See how this works?

How can any legal citizen be for this invasion? How can anyone vote for the side responsible regardless of any other false promises they spew? Is it just stupidity?

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Meatwad on September 14, 2024, 09:51:48 AM
Time for the citizens to take matters into their own hands if the government refuses to stop the enemy invasion.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 14, 2024, 10:22:53 AM
Time for the citizens to take matters into their own hands if the government refuses to stop the enemy invasion.

Many think that's what they are pushing...an excuse to implement a  Marshall law scenario at the level needed of their own choosing...

It'd make the silencing of 2020 look pale in comparison..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Meatwad on September 14, 2024, 11:34:42 AM
Many think that's what they are pushing...an excuse to implement a  Marshall law scenario at the level needed of their own choosing...

It'd make the silencing of 2020 look pale in comparison..

Eagler

May come quicker then anticipated from another source if things in europe spill over into alaska according to the most recent news story
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 14, 2024, 12:19:48 PM
May come quicker then anticipated from another source if things in europe spill over into alaska according to the most recent news story

It's just practice till it isn't..



Can't speak of peace or a ceasefire as that cuts into the profit margins...

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Tumor on September 14, 2024, 01:10:22 PM
There were topless dancers in the Airman's club and a Massage parlor on the base at Kunsan when I was there. I think all that changed not long after.

Only "Airmans" club I ever ran into was at Offutt in 86, and it wasn't there much longer.  I vaguely remember the "Massage Parlor" still being there, but was heavily monitored for naughty behavior.  Definitely no strippers on-base at the Kun by 93. The Squadron Hootches were still there, but closed by the time I left in 93.  Weren't even any strippers in A-town.  If you went there enough it didn't take long to learn which of the Dancer/Juicy's were Hooks as well.  The fun part was going over to Environmental Health to check the books (with pics) and see which one's had or hadn't been treated for what diseases.  By the late 90s I'm told most all the girls were Russian/East Euros.  Man that place was fun! :devil Pretty sure the whole operation got labeled as human trafficking is why it all got turned back to the Koreans
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 14, 2024, 03:49:56 PM
Orange flame lied, he got called out, his worshipers are horrified anyone pointed out his lies to his face.

Yall just repeat what he says as truth.

Reality is, the arguments are weak for a reason, they don’t care about the points, any one will do, its any reason to hate. They don’t have to make sense.  And they usually don’t. Any feabkr reason to hate, it doesn’t have to make sense nor properly defend. Wait 5 min, they’ll have s new one after this one is debunked. A gatling gun of weak excuses, because they just don’t matter. <shrug>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/violent-crime-has-increased-under-harris-biden-admin-after-abc-s-david-muir-disputed-trump-s-claim-that-crime-is-through-the-roof-doj-report/ar-AA1qxLzl?ocid=BingNewsSerp

This also supports years of claims that many local law enforcement agencies do not report all crimes.  That includes the FBI which was intended and used to be a bipartisan agency.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 14, 2024, 04:02:29 PM
If nothing else that debate spawned some great memes and such.

https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1834689147317240124
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 15, 2024, 05:53:14 AM
Let's not believe the ones actually doing the arresting..just believe the ones that actually caused it...



Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 15, 2024, 10:02:39 AM
So will they issue an apology or just hope no one sees this?



Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 15, 2024, 07:37:45 PM
It's funny how often after several pages of disussing Trump on this board, or enough time for truths to be extracted, the anti Trumpers go silent.  Rinse and repeat.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eviscerate on September 15, 2024, 08:03:38 PM
It's funny how often after several pages of disussing Trump on this board, or enough time for truths to be extracted, the anti Trumpers go silent.  Rinse and repeat.
Perhaps they are smart enough to read the forum rules.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 15, 2024, 08:15:03 PM
Perhaps they are smart enough to read the forum rules.

Is that what you're going with?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eviscerate on September 15, 2024, 08:24:29 PM
Is that what you're going with?
Well, the people who complain about being moderated/warned are the ones who continue to create and post in the political threads. It stands to reason...
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 15, 2024, 08:31:39 PM
It's funny how often after several pages of disussing Trump on this board, or enough time for truths to be extracted, the anti Trumpers go silent.  Rinse and repeat.

Actually not silent. Takes a little time to get over the nausea that draft dodging felons that rape women create. But I am well aware that members of his cult believe that he and he alone tells the truth.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 15, 2024, 08:55:33 PM
Well, the people who complain about being moderated/warned are the ones who continue to create and post in the political threads. It stands to reason...

What stands to reason?  What does anything that you've written have to do with people actively taking part in a thread before dropping out when things don't go their way?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 15, 2024, 08:58:51 PM
Actually not silent. Takes a little time to get over the nausea that draft dodging felons that rape women create. But I am well aware that members of his cult believe that he and he alone tells the truth.

What does Bill Clinton have to do with this?  We're talking about facts that have surfaced since the debate.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: guncrasher on September 15, 2024, 09:16:43 PM
What does Bill Clinton have to do with this?  We're talking about facts that have surfaced since the debate.

bill was never convicted.  your king was.


semp
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 15, 2024, 09:17:29 PM
What does Bill Clinton have to do with this?  We're talking about facts that have surfaced since the debate.

Or Biden with Tara Reade.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 15, 2024, 09:22:15 PM
bill was never convicted.  your king was.

semp

Incorrect.  You can be sued in civil court over nearly anything, and if you lose the case or have a partisan judge or jury, get ordered to pay a fine.  That is not being convicted of a criminal offense.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: guncrasher on September 15, 2024, 10:01:24 PM
Incorrect.  You can be sued in civil court over nearly anything, and if you lose the case or have a partisan judge or jury, get ordered to pay a fine.  That is not being convicted of a criminal offense.

did you forget the 34 counts.


semp

edit and he was found guilty twice.  but he's your type not mine.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 16, 2024, 01:50:07 AM
did you forget the 34 counts.


semp

edit and he was found guilty twice.  but he's your type not mine.

Folks were alluding to the Jean Carroll civil suit.  That is not a conviction.

You are talking about the "falsification of business records" case now.  Yes, the jury voted to convict on that.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 16, 2024, 06:41:15 AM
One side hates the other so much it's trying to eliminate the opposition by any means...

Both are a sad representation of the country but it's time for change for balance so the insanity of the last 4 years at least takes a 4 year break if not longer..



What a nice peaceful liberal nutbag this one is...

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 16, 2024, 08:00:23 AM
Folks were alluding to the Jean Carroll civil suit.  That is not a conviction.

You are talking about the "falsification of business records" case now.  Yes, the jury voted to convict on that.

Are you talking about the misdemeanors that were trumped up to felonies just so a political opponent could be charged because the statute of limitations had expired? How can that not be thrown out by any non partisan court of appeals?

Seriously, how can anyone not see that was purely a political attack and is illegal election interference?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2024, 08:42:28 AM
bill was never convicted.  your king was.


semp

Very true.  Dems do not have to go before kangaroo courts, do they?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2024, 08:45:02 AM
Are you talking about the misdemeanors that were trumped up to felonies just so a political opponent could be charged because the statute of limitations had expired? How can that not be thrown out by any non partisan court of appeals?

Seriously, how can anyone not see that was purely a political attack and is illegal election interference?

They can.  They just don't care.  Trump is their boogeyman.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 16, 2024, 09:27:13 AM
Are you talking about the misdemeanors that were trumped up to felonies just so a political opponent could be charged because the statute of limitations had expired? How can that not be thrown out by any non partisan court of appeals?

Seriously, how can anyone not see that was purely a political attack and is illegal election interference?

Cult membership is obvious when then only source of truth is the Idol. You regurgitate the same crap he does.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 16, 2024, 09:55:50 AM
Cult membership is obvious when then only source of truth is the Idol. You regurgitate the same crap he does.

Did you know what I said is true? Do you think it's okay to change the laws for the sole purpose of indicting a political opponent?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 16, 2024, 10:28:12 AM
Did you know what I said is true? Do you think it's okay to change the laws for the sole purpose of indicting a political opponent?

I rest my case. A question designed to make a statement of facts. Only his cult believes his convictions are political.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 16, 2024, 10:34:22 AM
So no answer then. Your case has failed.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 16, 2024, 10:44:29 AM
Venezuela gangs taking over apartments and demanding payment from truckers to stay over in Colorado truck stops...

When is enough enough?

Yes please vote for 4 more years of this lunacy..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 16, 2024, 10:46:15 AM
So no answer then. Your case has failed.

Read your own question. I repeat, it makes a statement of belief that eminates from the Cult.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 16, 2024, 10:51:14 AM
We'll see when it gets to the US Supreme Court. If Trump is still alive.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 16, 2024, 02:08:34 PM
Are you talking about the misdemeanors that were trumped up to felonies

My opinion is that it is outrageous weaponization of legal system against political opponents.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Firetech on September 16, 2024, 03:26:37 PM
Another "I'm scared of everything YouTube shows me" thread by our resident whiney squeak. Wtg Eagler.. hang that SDE for everyone.



My opinion is that it is outrageous weaponization of legal system against political opponents.

Ya.. the law sucks when you are guilty.. Great when it gets the other guys..
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eviscerate on September 16, 2024, 03:55:12 PM
My opinion is that it is outrageous weaponization of legal system against political opponents.

Are you insinuating he didn't commit the crimes, or that someone shouldn't be held accountable just because they're in politics?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RotBaron on September 16, 2024, 04:04:56 PM
Cult membership is obvious when then only source of truth is the Idol. You regurgitate the same crap he does.

You lack fundamental understanding of American laws regarding statutes of limitation and standing requirements. The latter being the most ironic.

Is it really that boring for you living in Canada that the US is constantly on your mind?  :headscratch:  It has always looked like such a beautiful place, although the closest I’ve been is skiing Mt. Baker. Your fresh water fishing is world renowned, do you need $ for rod and reel? Weather is about to turn…

World record 1915 👇, but there’s still kin!

https://superiorcountry.ca/fishing-and-hunting/world-record-brook-trout/

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 16, 2024, 04:32:38 PM
You lack fundamental understanding of American laws regarding statutes of limitation and standing requirements. The latter being the most ironic.

Is it really that boring for you living in Canada that the US is constantly on your mind?  :headscratch:  It has always looked like such a beautiful place, although the closest I’ve been is skiing Mt. Baker. Your fresh water fishing is world renowned, do you need $ for rod and reel? Weather is about to turn…

World record 1915 👇, but there’s still kin!

https://superiorcountry.ca/fishing-and-hunting/world-record-brook-trout/

This guy has plans that will negatively affect the entire free world.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2024, 04:42:25 PM
Are you insinuating he didn't commit the crimes, or that someone shouldn't be held accountable just because they're in politics?

Oh my, Hillary and Joe.  Do you people even realize what you type?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2024, 04:45:58 PM
This guy has plans that will negatively affect the entire free world.

Yall said said that in '16 ... ouch.  I bet you love Trudeau, too.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 16, 2024, 04:51:58 PM
Yall said said that in '16 ... ouch.  I bet you love Trudeau, too.

I did? You remember what I said 8 years ago? My words must bug you.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2024, 05:00:09 PM
I did? You remember what I said 8 years ago? My words must bug you.  :rolleyes:

Didn't work out well for the scare mongers.  But it will be different this time, right.  No feelings on Trudeau?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 16, 2024, 05:11:01 PM
Another "I'm scared of everything YouTube shows me" thread by our resident whiney squeak. Wtg Eagler.. hang that SDE for everyone.

Software development engineer?

I can discuss a subject without being fearful of it..sorry if it scares you but pretty sure your type voted it in...

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 16, 2024, 05:14:25 PM
Didn't work out well for the scare mongers.  But it will be different this time, right.  No feelings on Trudeau?

Nope, no feelings at all.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: nopoop on September 16, 2024, 05:22:53 PM
The state of the world NOW in comparison to when the boogiemanmeantweeter was president goes along way to show who in reality is sipping on koolaide.

Common sense tends to be lacking. The boogiemanmeantweeter result in things accomplished stand. The thought of saint Camala calling shots currently scare me more than Hillery did by a long shot...
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Meatwad on September 16, 2024, 06:07:05 PM
Oh my, Hillary and Joe.  Do you people even realize what you type?

They are innocent because of double standards and that they are not the "enemy" that they want out of the election
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 16, 2024, 06:07:15 PM
The state of the world NOW in comparison to when the boogiemanmeantweeter was president goes along way to show who in reality is sipping on koolaide.

Common sense tends to be lacking. The boogiemanmeantweeter result in things accomplished stand. The thought of saint Camala calling shots currently scare me more than Hillery did by a long shot...

It would be the same group that has ran the insane asylum administration since Jan 2021...

Corrupt senile joe wasn't making any decisions except which flavor ice-cream he wanted next...his brain dead arse did as he was told

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: nopoop on September 16, 2024, 06:32:11 PM
And so will she...
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eviscerate on September 16, 2024, 07:08:23 PM
Oh my, Hillary and Joe.  Do you people even realize what you type?
Whataboutism!
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 16, 2024, 07:33:11 PM
Whataboutism!

We already have one dadtallica, or whatever his name is.  Give us substance young man.  Not constant drive-bys.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 17, 2024, 02:25:37 AM
Ya.. the law sucks when you are guilty.. Great when it gets the other guys..

That is absolutely true.

I feel 100% that outrageous lawfare is being used against Trump.  And I expect people on the other side of the political spectrum would feel 100% that it's outrageous lawfare if, say, Garland were found guilty of something.

Lots of people I know who haven't been in court cases believe that court proceedings get to the full truth, and the verdict in court cases are pure, true, and just.

People who have been through enough court cases know that court cases sometimes do that, but sometimes don't.

When court proceedings have enough dodgy stuff in them, people who know some amount of law can see that.  For me, I see dodgy stuff.  But I'm partisan, so I wouldn't expect someone on the other side of the spectrum to put any weight in what I say.

One thing I would recommend to you, if you are interested in these things, is this book by a former Harvard Law professor, ACLU member, and well-known civil rights attorney:  "Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent," by Harvey A. Silverglate.  It explains how this stuff is routinely done.

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 17, 2024, 08:53:27 AM
They goin after RFKjr for a whale carcass now  :rofl

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 17, 2024, 09:53:46 AM
When the media blames the victim of the assassination attempt for actually causing the attempt on their own life you know the media is biased to the point of not knowing what is real and what is imagined...

They can't state that their TDS fake news reports actually cause it as they would be liable..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 17, 2024, 10:20:57 AM
It would be the same group that has ran the insane asylum administration since Jan 2021...

Corrupt senile joe wasn't making any decisions except which flavor ice-cream he wanted next...his brain dead arse did as he was told

Eagler
And so will she...

(https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2021/10/18/B3-PARI-Obamas-Pupp_c0-727-1349-1513_s885x516.jpg?d1330389096b6d069110c0fe2f0f69b6bab11c6b)
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 17, 2024, 12:00:46 PM
This could get interesting.  Sounds like the state of Florida is prepared to provide all details of their investigation to the public.   

https://www.youtube.com/live/gAgpsf589KY

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 04:25:46 AM
If we’re going by this groups mantra/rules of wrong about one thing, wrong about everything,..Vance admitted on “State of the Union” the story of eating cats and dogs was a lie to get attention. Also to deflect from Orange debate flop. So then there’s that right? Google it, the video is posted everywhere.

Great way to turn players off. Ignore list just grew.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 06:49:53 AM
If we’re going by this groups mantra/rules of wrong about one thing, wrong about everything,..Vance admitted on “State of the Union” the story of eating cats and dogs was a lie to get attention. Also to deflect from Orange debate flop. So then there’s that right? Google it, the video is posted everywhere.

Great way to turn players off. Ignore list just grew.

Your sides ignore list seems to involve nutbags with scoped rifles..that is a heck of an ignore ain't it?

More like eliminate..if you can't beat it..kill it eh?

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 08:06:10 AM
Your sides ignore list seems to involve nutbags with scoped rifles..that is a heck of an ignore ain't it?

More like eliminate..if you can't beat it..kill it eh?

Eagler

Thats not the subject I was referring to.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 18, 2024, 08:14:37 AM
Your sides ignore list seems to involve nutbags with scoped rifles..that is a heck of an ignore ain't it?

More like eliminate..if you can't beat it..kill it eh?

Eagler

Tell me please Eagler. With so many scoped rifles in the country, how does one identify the "nutbags"? Maybe if the "SIDES" you reference learned skills of discussion and compromise, issues might be solved without violence.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 08:24:27 AM
Tell me please Eagler. With so many scoped rifles in the country, how does one identify the "nutbags"? Maybe if the "SIDES" you reference learned skills of discussion and compromise, issues might be solved without violence.

That's simple..the ones trying to kill innocent ppl with guns are the butbags...

Yes civil discourse is missing from both sides but what do you expect when you hear our "media" "reporting" on any of this...

Very sad state of the country imo

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 18, 2024, 08:35:26 AM
That's simple..the ones trying to kill innocent ppl with guns are the butbags...

Yes civil discourse is missing from both sides but what do you expect when you hear our "media" "reporting" on any of this...

Very sad state of the country imo

Eagler

There is no debate from me on your observation as to the state of the country. But whatever crap eminates from the media should not affect elected representatives from "civil discourse".
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 09:04:26 AM
Your sides ignore list seems to involve nutbags with scoped rifles..that is a heck of an ignore ain't it?

More like eliminate..if you can't beat it..kill it eh?

Eagler

Nope, people are exhausted from chaotic and conspiracies, that tribe talk but don’t listen. Why waist time in life. Its a vexation. Its just done with intension to anger, why give em a mic.

Btw, as you prolly know, both the shooter and attempted shooter voted orange prior to this yr.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 09:07:03 AM
Well now you can vote for "joy" lol

Clueless mindless puppet but must be joyful as she can't stop laughing about everything...

What is sad is that we only have these two bozos to choose from

What's even worse is that I think that the fix is already in for this one too..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 09:08:29 AM
 :banana: :banana: :banana:

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 18, 2024, 09:34:29 AM
Nope, people are exhausted from chaotic and conspiracies, that tribe talk but don’t listen. Why waist time in life. Its a vexation. Its just done with intension to anger, why give em a mic.

Btw, as you prolly know, both the shooter and attempted shooter voted orange prior to this yr.

There people who are tired of the conspiracies, and people learning of the conspiracies who are waking up. Its your choice I guess how deep you want to go. Some have more there there than others for sure. But they have done this to themselves. I certainly wouldn't put it past 3rd world migrants who lived in a 3rd world their entire lives, to practice 3rd world eating habits.

Both of those shooters did not vote Orange man. The first one more than likely voted for Haley in the primary to offset Trump. His own classmate said he was no Trump fan. Would it make logical sense to shoot your own candidate and get killed for it? I don't think so...but I know he was Involved with Antifa and Yearick/Hooper, who Yearick was a Ukrainian Sniper. I think Nichols and the police Chief Guy, on the local police side is very sus too.

The second guy is very sus. Definitely not a conservative Trump supporter. You don't sit in a bush for 12 hours waiting if you are a Trump fan. He is yet another Ukrainian army recruiter.

To me, both the Ukrainian connections are very Interesting. While it could be completely separate. It's still a connection that should be looked in to.

I think George Webb has the best deep research on it. As he says, sure would be nice if authorities came out with their information and metadata on social media apps. But, since they won't, it opens the door for conspiracies.

For what it's worth, I think it's very clear to see which party is scared and which party has the most to "lose" by losing the election. I'm not referring to citizens having the most to lose.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 09:51:22 AM
I am sure these folks are just lying too...



Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 18, 2024, 10:00:29 AM
Nope, people are exhausted from chaotic and conspiracies, that tribe talk but don’t listen. Why waist time in life. Its a vexation. Its just done with intension to anger, why give em a mic.

Btw, as you prolly know, both the shooter and attempted shooter voted orange prior to this yr.

Russian collusion - the 4 years, 32-million-dollar conspiracy theory. 

As for the two nutjobs who attempted to shoot Trump.  You need to do a little more research. 

 
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 18, 2024, 10:41:20 AM
It was good to learn we have no US troops in any war zones.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 11:49:54 AM
Russian collusion - the 4 years, 32-million-dollar conspiracy theory. 

As for the two nutjobs who attempted to shoot Trump.  You need to do a little more research. 

 

You’re both running from the subject

Vance is on vid that admits he lied, in his own voice.
Both shooters had supported orange.
Both are facts.

Here’s an off subject thought. These conspiracies and reckless assumptions are not pulling anyone in, it pushes them away to the left or not at all. Because the truth is so easy to find.  Its not an intelligent attire. Opinions are not facts. Opinions are based on same facts. Facts must exist. If the facts are missing then the opinion is tainted. The point us skewed.

Out of convo
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 18, 2024, 12:03:58 PM
The Kool-Aid is more ubiquitous than I thought.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 18, 2024, 02:02:46 PM
You’re both running from the subject

Vance is on vid that admits he lied, in his own voice.
Both shooters had supported orange.
Both are facts.

Here’s an off subject thought. These conspiracies and reckless assumptions are not pulling anyone in, it pushes them away to the left or not at all. Because the truth is so easy to find.  Its not an intelligent attire. Opinions are not facts. Opinions are based on same facts. Facts must exist. If the facts are missing then the opinion is tainted. The point us skewed.

Out of convo

We can go deeper into this as soon as you acknowledge that Russian collusion was a hoax and that you believed it.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Shuffler on September 18, 2024, 02:35:21 PM
That's simple..the ones trying to kill innocent ppl with guns are the butbags...

Yes civil discourse is missing from both sides but what do you expect when you hear our "media" "reporting" on any of this...

Very sad state of the country imo

Eagler

When people can't tell the difference between regular folks and nutbags.. .. you can't fix that. They guy who shot at Trump thinks he is normal, his son thinks so too. Obviously some here think so.
We have spent far too long protecting stupid people from themselves. Time to remove the signs and let nature thin the herd.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 02:59:37 PM
Just announced to the world that the dollar is much weaker than they have been stating...what's one more lie???

Hello inflation!!!!

Corruption runs deep folks!

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 18, 2024, 03:42:27 PM
whatever crap eminates from the media should not affect elected representatives from "civil discourse".

Long gone are the days of restrained political campaigns that don't use negative campaigning, smear tactics, etc.

All political campaigns on all sides use those techniques in the standard campaign toolkit.

Lamenting the loss of civil discourse in political campaigns is like lamenting the loss of any nostalgic thing from days gone by.

Time will tell if rhetoric that encourages a side's supporters to assassinate a political opponent joins the standard toolkit.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 18, 2024, 04:28:47 PM
Gas prices are dropping rapidly the last couple of weeks. Wonder if that has anything to do with the fact July-Sept is used for COLA calculations?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 04:49:59 PM
Gas prices are dropping rapidly the last couple of weeks. Wonder if that has anything to do with the fact July-Sept is used for COLA calculations?

Nah just a cowinkydink...something I never paid attention to before retiring last October

More manipulation

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Busher on September 18, 2024, 04:51:49 PM
Long gone are the days of restrained political campaigns that don't use negative campaigning, smear tactics, etc.

All political campaigns on all sides use those techniques in the standard campaign toolkit.

Lamenting the loss of civil discourse in political campaigns is like lamenting the loss of any nostalgic thing from days gone by.

Time will tell if rhetoric that encourages a side's supporters to assassinate a political opponent joins the standard toolkit.

I can't agree with this. If I did, my answer would be to start over with a new country.

I suggest it's time for the people to start selecting the people that represent them with more care. I know he's gone but how did George Santos ever get nominated, let alone elected? There is no shortage of these people in Government - they prove it daily with their mouth.

Someone a lot smarter than me said "those most capable of leading have no interest in doing the job". It's long overdue that these people be rooted out and asked to stand up.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Brooke on September 18, 2024, 04:53:40 PM
I like you, Animl.  Not sure if you are the sort of person who is OK with political discussion with me, or will get angered if I disagree.  If you don't want it, let me know, and I won't do it.

There are some folks who are OK with political discussion with me and still be friends (like semp and, I hope, Busher).  Some aren't, which is OK.

Vance is on vid that admits he lied, in his own voice.

The full quote is:

Bash: "He said Hatians are eating dogs and cats.   Can you affirmatively say now that that is a rumor that has no basis with evidence?"

Vance:  "Dana, the evidence is the first-hand account of my constituents who are telling me that this happened."

Rather clearly, there Vance is saying there is basis -- that his own constituents with first-hand knowledge are reporting to him that it is true.

Vance continuing:  "And by the way, I've been trying to talk about the problems in Springfield for months, and the American media ignored it.  There was a Congressional hearing just last week of angel moms who lost children because Kamala Harris let criminal migrants into this country who then murdered their children.  The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes.  If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

So here is where we get the one sentence clipped out:  "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

If you don't look at any context, you conclude he just said he made it up and it's a lie.

However--

When you look at the context, we see that he just clearly said he didn't make it up people eating cats, and it has basis in actual reports.  We see that "create stories" refers to talking about cat memes (not whether or not people are eating cats, which, again, he already said he didn't make up) to push the media into covering the issues.

Media does this all the time.  Take a sentence out of important context and tell you what it says.  Yet when you look at the whole thing, you see that's not the whole truth.

Here's the relevant section of interview:
https://youtu.be/Hxzh_CAwvEA?t=633

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Both shooters had supported orange.

Seems moot, as both failed assassins obviously didn't like Trump.

But it is incorrect.

Crooks registered Republican but donated to Act Blue.  One classmate said that Crooks was a conservative.  Another classmate said that Crooks thought all politicians sucked and especially disliked Trump (such as here:  https://nypost.com/2024/07/17/us-news/thomas-matthew-crooks-mocked-classmate-for-supporting-trump-in-2016-he-did-not-like-our-politicians/ ).

I live in a state which, like Pennsylvania, has primaries in a way that it is not uncommon for democrats to register as republicans to vote in the republican primary (to boost the candidate they least hate or boost a weaker candidate).  Then they vote for the democrat in the election.  It doesn't mean much when a person is registered republican unless they are registered republican for like 5 years in a row.

Routh is a democrat.  In his self-published book, he says he once supported Trump but now hates him and hopes Trump is assassinated.  Routh's recorded voting record and his statements of public support are for democrats.  He donated 20 times to Act Blue.



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Because the truth is so easy to find.

It isn't easy.  Because --

News on all sides hard-pushes partisan points of view.  If you aren't looking at news from both sides, your opinion is just assigned to you by a partisan news source.  Both sides is not MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. on the one side and Fox on the other.  It is MSNBC, CNN, ABC, Fox, etc. on the one side and Tucker Carlson, Gateway Pundit, Zero Hedge, right-leaning X posts, etc. on the other side.  That's the only way to see the spectrum.  Then you see which side is leaving out what, and where they agree.  That's the only way to have any chance of seeing the truth.

It is work to do that.  Most people don't do that.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 05:42:01 PM
The Kool-Aid is more ubiquitous than I thought.

You lack substance, as usual.
To know what's wrong you first must know what is right. Tell me where I am wrong, not just a one-liner insult jab because you're wrong

BTW. What law was changed so Orange could be prosecuted?
If you cannot state what statute changed your point fails.
Most of yours do. You rely on no one researching your grape koolaid claims
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 18, 2024, 05:47:24 PM
You lack substance, as usual.

What law was changed so Orange could be prosecuted?

If you cannot state it your point fails. Most of yours do.

Prosecute away but please do both sides as they are all crooks and can be found guilty of one thing or another..

What's happening now is corruption at the highest levels as it's one sided political witch hunt

I know you can see that ..right?

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 05:51:33 PM
Prosecute away but please do both sides as they are all crooks and can be found guilty of one thing or another..

What's happening now is corruption at the highest levels as it's one sided political witch hunt

I know you can see that ..right?

Eagler

No, no one is above the law.
They have evidence.
Stop changing subjects to run from the one I posted about

Bill Barr abused his seat, documented.
11 investigations into Hillary, all but one failed, one was just about emails and Orange did much worse by using his personal phone for WH biz.
Every Rep run investigation into Obama failed.
Nothing came of Biden's laptop.
Claims of Joe Biden never gave fruit.

Every single rep run investigation by Jordon failed,.. about 20. Zero convictions. Orange, went after many that failed.

Face it, orange lies to you every single day.... but that doens't matter that they are lies, it's about reason,no matter how weak, to inflict cruelty.



Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 05:58:47 PM
Let me help yas out here, since I know most won't bother so they can say it's a lie.
Here' ya go

Press "play" and listen.





Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 06:16:13 PM
As for Sending Abortion laws to the state...
This all looks good on paper in a perfect world, where all people are honest.

However, the very state in question in the post is,.. Ohio put Abortion law into an election vote. THE PEOPLE voted to legalize abortion by a large margin.....the Reps who run that state refuse to implement the people's will, and are being sued to do so. How is blocking the people's vote fair to the people?

Looks good on paper, not in real life.

I posted this fact upstream and it was glazed over, in convenience.

The right does not care about truth, they care about retaining the power to inflict cruelty. Both babies and mothers are dying because of the abortion nonsense. It's about cruelty, not facts.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 18, 2024, 06:30:11 PM
Long gone are the days of restrained political campaigns that don't use negative campaigning, smear tactics, etc.

All political campaigns on all sides use those techniques in the standard campaign toolkit.

Lamenting the loss of civil discourse in political campaigns is like lamenting the loss of any nostalgic thing from days gone by.

Time will tell if rhetoric that encourages a side's supporters to assassinate a political opponent joins the standard toolkit.

Many mass murders were committed by right-wing extremist, which the right enabled by passing out guns to anyone and everyone like candy.

Right now, that Ohio town is facing up to 30 bomb threats to schools and death threats due to Trump and Vance.

it is nowhere near equal. Orange incited supporters to beat up anyone at his events that are not his followers,....all this is documented. Orange has been inciting intentionally violence since day one.

walk-back anything I posted, you should. Everyone needs a fact check. But I DO research, and I'm not just spewing a guessing game.
Violent crime was 26% higher under Orange than Biden,.. and higher than Obama era.

I like my friends most when I do not know their political stance, nor their sex, nor their income. These are all voodoo subjects in social circles. People lose friends and even family over this stuff. why these posts should not exist here. They are unhealthy.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 18, 2024, 07:14:04 PM
This guy's a brainwashed nut, Brooke, or possibly an election year troll.  Much, if not all of what he has claimed has been refuted by posters on this board with no rebuttal.  He'll then return with the same claims as if none of it was dicussed.  For laughs, I'd still like his take as to why Iran passed stolen/hacked Trump information onto the Biden/Harris administration.  Maybe he will explain Russian collusion to us after that.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Oldman731 on September 18, 2024, 07:43:37 PM
The full quote is:

Bash: "He said Hatians are eating dogs and cats.   Can you affirmatively say now that that is a rumor that has no basis with evidence?"

Vance:  "Dana, the evidence is the first-hand account of my constituents who are telling me that this happened."

Rather clearly, there Vance is saying there is basis -- that his own constituents with first-hand knowledge are reporting to him that it is true.


And therein lies the problem.  WSJ - which is no progressive's friend - says that he knew at the time he said this that the constituent had recanted. 

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/springfield-ohio-pet-eating-claims-haitian-migrants-04598d48?mod=hp_lead_pos7&mod=wknd_pos1

It's pretty dumb that the campaigns are focusing on things like this, but pressures of the moment tend to reveal who's making things up (remember Hillary and the snipers?).

- oldman
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Mar on September 18, 2024, 07:51:18 PM
No, this is the problem:



Brooke is 100% correct and the Wall Street Journal is no exception.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 18, 2024, 07:55:29 PM
No, this is the problem:



Brooke is 100% correct, and the Wall Street Journal is no exception.

NM
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 18, 2024, 07:56:02 PM
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Mar on September 18, 2024, 07:57:26 PM

I fixed it, this forum prefers the shorter youtu.be link it seems.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 18, 2024, 08:20:34 PM
The city manager, who was quoted by ABC as saying no evidence, has admitted on camera that there have been many complaints of missing pets and suspected abductions by those dumped into their small city. To say there's no evidence is different from saying yes, there have been complaints but there's no proof. What constitutes proof? The police told those who complained that they would not investigate.

If a sudden increase in missing pets corresponds to a sudden increase of migrants who sacrifice and eat those same animals in their home country it's pure coincidence?

https://x.com/i/status/1836204390790610959
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Meatwad on September 18, 2024, 08:42:48 PM
The city manager, who was quoted by ABC as saying no evidence, has admitted on camera that there have been many complaints of missing pets and suspected abductions by those dumped into their small city. To say there's no evidence is different from saying yes, there have been complaints but there's no proof. What constitutes proof? The police told those who complained that they would not investigate.

If a sudden increase in missing pets corresponds to a sudden increase of migrants who sacrifice and eat those same animals in their home country it's pure coincidence?

https://x.com/i/status/1836204390790610959

You need these since the concept worked so good in the terrorist country

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 06:07:49 AM
The city manager, who was quoted by ABC as saying no evidence, has admitted on camera that there have been many complaints of missing pets and suspected abductions by those dumped into their small city. To say there's no evidence is different from saying yes, there have been complaints but there's no proof. What constitutes proof? The police told those who complained that they would not investigate.

If a sudden increase in missing pets corresponds to a sudden increase of migrants who sacrifice and eat those same animals in their home country it's pure coincidence?

https://x.com/i/status/1836204390790610959

BS
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 06:12:09 AM
This guy's a brainwashed nut, Brooke, or possibly an election year troll.  Much, if not all of what he has claimed has been refuted by posters on this board with no rebuttal.  He'll then return with the same claims as if none of it was dicussed.  For laughs, I'd still like his take as to why Iran passed stolen/hacked Trump information onto the Biden/Harris administration.  Maybe he will explain Russian collusion to us after that.   

Nope, you just don’t know what you’re talking about.

A quote omitting the admission.

I don’t live in your lunatic fringe and never will.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 06:16:14 AM
Another one by a man who now has more than nearly anyone ever at stake if he’s wrong:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1834079194600669580

Give me all the “lies”, I’ll debunk in minutes.  Want the “very fine people” next?  Ever watched the entire clip?

Fact you use X for news is beyond laughable. But you are very willing to deceive in s debate as you’ve proven on other subjects.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Mar on September 19, 2024, 06:31:48 AM
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 06:46:28 AM
Yus guys are paranoid someone will do to you what whites did to Native Americans and Mexicans. Your ancestors were the illegal immigrants who destroyed cultures.

Its easier to break someone from a heroin addiction that it is to save someone from a cult.

Sooner or later people give up and allow them to swim in their own delirium and wish them well. But its always sad to watch.

I hope you find something else to waste your time in life on. Daily hysteria over falsehoods is not the way. Blind hate is certainly not the way. Its unhealthy, and I’ll never join in. Life is too short for such nonsense.

I’m not reading your propaganda.

I wish you well. You’ll need it.

Every once in a while a band coming up the charts will ask for advice. I tell them, never bring politics into your show, you’ll lose half your otherwise audience. You have the same effect on the game audience, people stop taking you seriously. Respect is dumped. Friends and family move away, it chases people away. Stop whining about numbers while you shove them out the door. Its s sad buzz-kill.

I’ll not pollute my life with blind hysteria. I hope someday you find yourselves again.

I have a saying: if someone starts something with you and bullies you, I’m right beside you, lets rip em up. If you’re the one who starts it, best I can do is call an ambulance for you and wish you well.

I will not join in willful ignorance and blind hate, its a vexation to the spirit, i wish you well.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 07:18:17 AM
I’m German/Cherokee since 1732, before it was the USA. My nephews have much more Cherokee in their blood.

The Native American side of us say: we welcomed you and your modern inventions with a open hand, and you brought us pain, death and stole our lands. Now you’re frantically paranoid of karma for your deeds, blaming the innocent who seek the same dreams you have. And now you eat yourselves for dinner. Your necks hurt from looking over your shoulders.

You’re lost ghost who forgot and lost their own heritage. So you grasp every TV persona to find it.

I want to like you, but you make it so hard.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 19, 2024, 07:30:19 AM
No hope for you animal as far as politics go...

If a crime isn't investigated properly if at all it will never go to court..duh

Time for the left "leadership" to be put under the same microscope but the bias activist media is making sure it never happens..

Yes top secret email server in your home is perfectly legal lol

If the majority have your mindset we are truly toast..and they just might now if you add in the millions of " cat eating" illegal immigrants into the mix...think of all those mail in ballots that can be purchased and harvested..you know like they did in 2020

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 19, 2024, 07:38:25 AM
BS

Did you watch the video? What part of that is BS. I know you never bother answering facts with facts so I expect nothing but a purely emotional response.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 07:43:59 AM
No hope for you animal as far as politics go...

If a crime isn't investigated properly if at all it will never go to court..duh

Time for the left "leadership" to be put under the same microscope but the bias activist media is making sure it never happens..

Yes top secret email server in your home is perfectly legal lol

If the majority have your mindset we are truly toast..and they just might now if you add in the millions of " cat eating" illegal immigrants into the mix...think of all those mail in ballots that can be purchased and harvested..you know like they did in 2020

Eagler

Those are sad words of misplaced anger. Pretty strong words from someone who claims peace is the way. I will not take them seriously.

I will maintain my hope that you find true peace in your sole before your last day. Life is about more than this.

Be well anyway
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 19, 2024, 07:54:27 AM
Those are sad words of misplaced anger. Pretty strong words from someone who claims peace is the way. I will not take them seriously.

I will maintain my hope that you find true peace in your sole before your last day. Life is about more than this.

Be well anyway

You speak the most inflammatory words on the BBS and then turn around and feign calm and concern. Most obvious troll ever or serious bi-polar disorder.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 19, 2024, 07:58:28 AM
It's everywhere yet our fantastic media doesn't report it..not because it is not happening,  they are not reporting it because the left is causing it...

If trump had opened the border it would be reported as the treasonous act it truly is...and it be reported repeatedly and endlessly instead of what garbage they are spewing in their potato head cover up..



Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 19, 2024, 08:01:01 AM
Those are sad words of misplaced anger. Pretty strong words from someone who claims peace is the way. I will not take them seriously.

I will maintain my hope that you find true peace in your sole before your last day. Life is about more than this.

Be well anyway

Huh? I wish no ill on anyone but we can't afford to be the world's bank/ mommy dude..

I wish you clarity in your thinking but I think you have consumed too much kool-aid and tds sandwiches..

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 08:04:04 AM
You speak the most inflammatory words on the BBS and then turn around and feign calm and concern. Most obvious troll ever or serious bi-polar disorder.

Your words are poison, and seeking peace doesn’t mean we lay down our arms. You begged fir what you got because you crave confrontation. You don’t like the bathroom mirror. You cannot take what you put out. You wish the cruelty in the weak and powerless you could never withstand. You wish the pain you fear the most. And you deceive fluently like melted butter. You hate seeing yourself. I did you no harm, yet you attacked me over snd over playing the bully, so I gave you what you sought. You live to hear yourself talk.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Mar on September 19, 2024, 08:11:35 AM
Your words are poison, and seeking peace doesn’t mean we lay down our arms. You begged fir what you got because you crave confrontation. You don’t like the bathroom mirror. You cannot take what you put out. You wish the cruelty in the weak and powerless you could never withstand. You wish the pain you fear the most. And you deceive fluently like melted butter. You hate seeing yourself. I did you no harm, yet you attacked me over snd over playing the bully, so I gave you what you sought. You live to hear yourself talk.

Maybe just... take a break from the intardweeb for a bit?
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 08:21:35 AM
Huh? I wish no ill on anyone but we can't afford to be the world's bank/ mommy dude..

I wish you clarity in your thinking but I think you have consumed too much kool-aid and tds sandwiches..

Eagler

You think I don’t see the faults of both sides? There is a reason I’m independent/centrist, we should have the very best of both worlds, not the worst of one. We cannot be whole without both. Your way is not the only way.

That said: that side has intimidated the country with threats of revolution, civil war, in idol threats since  Obama took office, to date. Stop with the idol threats and lets get that show on the road. Walk the talk your children and grandchildren will walk for you while you comfortably sit and watch tv.

Someone who really means it would never give up the element of surprise with their homes marked with flags, cars with bumper stickers and red hats on their heads.

In the battlefield, the loud mouth gets fragged to avoid drawing attention.

Its sad the world we leave our innocent kids to live in.

Carry on, good luck
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 08:24:13 AM
Maybe just... take a break from the intardweeb for a bit?

True enough, works both ways. I’m not caught up, just replying to those who are in attempt to show people themselves. I’m out. It is what it is.

Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: AKIron on September 19, 2024, 08:44:07 AM
Your words are poison, and seeking peace doesn’t mean we lay down our arms. You begged fir what you got because you crave confrontation. You don’t like the bathroom mirror. You cannot take what you put out. You wish the cruelty in the weak and powerless you could never withstand. You wish the pain you fear the most. And you deceive fluently like melted butter. You hate seeing yourself. I did you no harm, yet you attacked me over snd over playing the bully, so I gave you what you sought. You live to hear yourself talk.

Get help, seriously.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Chris79 on September 19, 2024, 09:25:35 AM
You speak the most inflammatory words on the BBS and then turn around and feign calm and concern. Most obvious troll ever or serious bi-polar disorder.

Most obvious troll ever or serious bi-polar disorder


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Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Firetech on September 19, 2024, 10:00:03 AM
NM

Haha.. now do the same thing for fox news, OAN, any of the right wing posters in here.. all the same..
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Mar on September 19, 2024, 10:04:18 AM
Haha.. now do the same thing for fox news, OAN, any of the right wing posters in here.. all the same..

Fox was in that video...

You really should go back and actually read Brooke's post.

You should also pay attention to what they actually said in the video and think about it for a few minutes...
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 19, 2024, 10:04:22 AM
Can I borrow your password, AW?  I'd love to know what y'all are discussing on here.   

https://www.facebook.com/groups/InternetTrollsLocal/
 
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Firetech on September 19, 2024, 10:47:26 AM
True enough, works both ways. I’m not caught up, just replying to those who are in attempt to show people themselves. I’m out. It is what it is.

It's a cult. Unless you can bombard these trump fan boys with some other non-stop homoerotic highly emotional (fear) based fantasies, it's no help. It lives in their brains 24/7 non-stop. They are hooked and hooked DEEP.

Fearing everything and anything they are told to. It's a cult. I think it's called the popsiclefication of American men. They've been reduced to the level of tweens that idolize boy bands..it's a cult.
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Mar on September 19, 2024, 11:05:01 AM
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: RUSH1 on September 19, 2024, 11:08:33 AM
It's a cult. Unless you can bombard these trump fan boys with some other non-stop homoerotic highly emotional (fear) based fantasies, it's no help. It lives in their brains 24/7 non-stop. They are hooked and hooked DEEP.

Fearing everything and anything they are told to. It's a cult. I think it's called the popsiclefication of American men. They've been reduced to the level of tweens that idolize boy bands..it's a cult.

Russian collusion.  4 years and $32 million worth of Trump derangement syndrome.  Please don't lecture us on cultism.  And if you will read these posts carefully, you will see that many of the posters calling out the craziness that we have seen over the last four years from the current administration, are not big fans of Trump, the man.  They just prefer his policies.   
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Eagler on September 19, 2024, 11:19:58 AM
They don't or can't or won't separate personality from policy...

We are told to vote for "joy" this time around because their candidate can't do anything but laugh at everything as she knows nothing...

4 years of her demolition should just about finish potato head Joe's handlers plans..

Who has been running the show for the last 4 years? Why aren't the investigate media asking that question?

Imagine if trump was found to be as full of dementia as their crook obviously is? The media would have a field day and rightfully so...

Eagler
Title: Re: Circus coming to town!
Post by: Animl-AW on September 19, 2024, 11:22:08 AM
It's a cult. Unless you can bombard these trump fan boys with some other non-stop homoerotic highly emotional (fear) based fantasies, it's no help. It lives in their brains 24/7 non-stop. They are hooked and hooked DEEP.

Fearing everything and anything they are told to. It's a cult. I think it's called the popsiclefication of American men. They've been reduced to the level of tweens that idolize boy bands..it's a cult.

Yep
Projection is their fav tool. Everything they accuse is them.
Too far gone for my blood.

People see ghost that are not there because they choose to see ghost that are not there.

Its turned into a loud chanting haven for the far right here. Anyone who disagrees with them them takes s beating right out of here. Sooner or later that is what will remain. Its very unbecoming.  They ruin everything they touch with this conspiracies from hell concept overload. Not impressed. I learned nothing. The hate is so thick

Moving on to a quieter crowd. This is toxic