Originally posted by FALCONWING
Simaril i respectfully disagree...flying with friends is what it is..i have plenty of friends on other "chess pieces" and they often come across and wing with me or they me and i do the same.
Noone was ever forced to join BoPs...we dont even recruit...when people ask the rules are explained and they are also told that you dont have to join to use our ch. some choose to..some dont...many bish visit our ch all the time and so do friends from other countries.
I exert no "power"...but i also dont like treating this game in a manner that i consider to be arcadelike...if someone chooses to be on my team...then those are my boys...thats who we get to know...
If two football team showed up to play and one was stronger then the other...would you insist they swap players untiil there is statistical parity??? when one trained and worked hard to be a good team and the other just demanded that the "injustice" be corrected?
please dont feel the need to belittle our structure because there are inherent flaws in the design of these arenas...there are plaenty o f games like tribes/quake where you can play "pick up". its the consistency in here that made it special.
you are right that i cannot begin to get to know 5000 people..so i choose to limit the ones i do get close to and hence my enjoyment. i feel like i am getting hammered from both sides....is it "no way you can feel close to 90 guys" or is it "you must get to know 5000"?
First, I see where you're coming from, Falc. But I think you're being unnecessarily antagonistic. I never belittled you or yours....
Even so, I think your response may be revealing. My question was about squad rules, not about how
you prefer to play; but you transitioned from what YOUR SQUAD has to do to what YOU want out of the game. Also with all due respect, those are not the same thing at all.
I'm really asking if its necessary for you to exert your CO power to ask your squaddies to limit themselves that way. Sure, they knew what they were getting into when they joined, but what that rule really does is to force applicants to choose between their desire to join, and any desire they might have to fly with other friends. The guys who join decided for BOP, but....would it be so harmful to the squad if they got to do both? Even though you obviously chose to always be bish?
I dont think you're being fair or even realistic when you use your sports analogy. Your description fits pretty well for an AH scenario, adn in that situation you're right.
But in the regular arenas, what's the joy in dsiciplined teamwork when no one else responds with the same? When 20 BOPS decide to attack, and there's no organized resistance (just random uppers), how can that be a measure of skill? Wouldnt it be more satisfying to measure yourselves against a real opponent of near equal strength? And if the BOPS are the best team squad (as ou seem to imply), whats so wicked about wings hitting wings?
To use your sports analogy: I
have been in situations where my soccer team either outmatched, or was outmatched by opponents. And yes, I have forfeited games, and asked the other guys to divvy up so the kids can have some fun playing instead of jsut getting their faces rubbed into their inferiority. That's not arcadish, its sportsmanship.
I hear you say BOTH that the BOPS are all about having fun, AND that you're so seriously into winning the war that playing for another side efven once means you can never come back. So which is it -- fun or intense competition?
I've never cared what other squads do, figuring "to each their own." But times are different now. Squads that remain rigid about stuff like this hugely warp the arena balance for all of us, and thats a problem. We all need to adjust, in little ways and maybe in big ways, or decisions will be made FOR US. Just look at some of the other threads to see what I mean.
The old days WILL NOT come back. Arena limits WILL NOT go high enough to let 60 member big wings join a country without problems for everyone. It seems to me that a little flexibility may go a long way.
