Anybody Using Vista?

[republic]

Still nobody having the weird Vista halting problem with AH?  Why must I be so unique...I want to conform!  

Some more words about frame rate issues...  I can't play any of my favorites without a very noticeable drop in frame rate.  I read somewhere that Nvidia, even with monthly driver updates, is not planning on performance upgrades until well into summer.  The next few months are just going to be repairing features that are broke in the vista driver.

While I'm the first one to line up with a torch and burn Microsoft at the stake....I have to wonder why the hardware companies are scrambling for drivers when Vista has been in development for a google years and even in beta for....many moons.

[Irwink!]

Originally posted by Krusty
I thought you meant under the system tab on XP, where you go to "Hardware" tab, then "Hardware Profiles" (a button) down by the bottom?

Yeah, you don't have that in Vista. That's what I mean when I say the only reference there is to hardware profiles is in the logon properties for each service.

[Irwink!]

Originally posted by republic
Still nobody having the weird Vista halting problem with AH?  Why must I be so unique...I want to conform!  
 

Nope. Still haven't seen that on this end. You must be one of The Chosen.

[Krusty]

Republic, it's not my laptop, and I'm not going to install Aces High on it, so I can't test it.

I'm never installing Vista on MY[/i] rig, so I won't be able to say if I have any problems



P.S. ^--- by that I mean not in at least 7-10 years, maybe the next OS will be out by then.

[FrodeMk3]

Kinda funny I chanced on this thread...My Brother in law just got a new PC from Gateway about 4 days ago. It comes with Vista, and Gateway told him that nothing else was available.

I'm guessing that the value of new, In-the-box copies of XP Shot up over 50% over the last week, If everybody getting new OEM systems' have the same reaction: Trying to get, and Install XP over Vista.

That said...

I kinda have a question for you, skuzzy:Will HTC wind up basing everything on Vista eventually? And, if so, what is the impact for us gamers(especially the barely comp-literate ones like myself?)

By all accounts of everything I've read, Vista is gonna hurt performance in a big way.

Also, will it affect A Pentium or Intel based system more or less so over say, and Athlon rig?

Thanks in advance

[Skuzzy]

There is no reason for us to do anything specific to Vista right now.  It is too early and the OS and all the drivers are too unstable.

I think we should quantify the performance loss with Vista and will be working on it.

[Reschke]

Is it possible that your AMD CPU is part of the problem? BUT what do I know.

[republic]

It's bizzaroworld.  I'm gonna try it on my broadband at work this evening.  I don't see how the modem would affect the system in the way it's being affected (effected?)...but I've seen much stranger things in the wacky world of PC troubleshooting....and it's the final variable I can remove from the equation...until I think of something else.  

I have XP and can play just fine, just trying to get started on troubleshooting odd Vista issues.  Troubleshooting is my bread and butter.

[humble]

Hopefully the backlash against vista is so strong that someone launches a competing OS. The only reason that microsoft is even in business is hype/timing. The original rollout was all vaporware and totally untracked IBM's much better OS. Sadly nobody has ever stepped up and actually competed (or been allowed to) with microsoft. It's taken well over a decade but I think circumstances are right. Dell and the other "box" makers are strapped, MS is so out of touch with reality they're losing the market they created.

I'd say by 2009 you'll have sony roll out a true OS specific to the "cell" if nothing else. Hopefully someone will roll out a competing OS for mainstream use....

[republic]

In the end, I don't believe more os choices is the answer.  This is the one case where more choices, imho, would actually hurt the consumer.  Windows has it's issues, and some of them are great....but a world of many choices of consumer operating systems would be a nightmare for "Joe user".

Lets say EA gets a kickback from Sony, so now you must have Sony's OS to run any EA games...but UBI signs a deal with...Apple, so now you have to have OSX to play any UBI games....and on and on.  Having to have the specific OS for the specific hardware/software you want to use...could lead to needing several OS's installed just to use all the software you'd want.

Windows has become more than an OS.  DOS, was an OS...Windows is a collection of many applications, network infrastructure, etc.  What I'd like to see is a modular approach to Windows, sortof like Linux.  I'd like my core OS that I boot into to be as streamlined and basic as possible...like the mini OS's built into consoles, PDA's, etc.  Sell that cheap, then if I want all the 'other features' I can buy them.

For me, I don't need speech recognition...I don't need indexed searches (I use Google Desktop...which does a much better job)...I don't need Windows to hold my hand with it's incessant popups and warnings...I don't need the ability to restore a previous configuration, I can do that better myself...I don't need many of the things I pay for in the Windows bundle.

Vista is a step in the right direction, as far as version choice....but Microsoft shoots itself in the foot because while the basic versions are cheaper...they are just as bloated as their bigger brothers without the benefits they offer.  So for a person who gets Home Basic...it's just as slow and inept as Ultimate...yet without the benefit of Ultimate 'oooh ahhh' apps.

[Triumph]

My new machine Is a all new build w/ a clean install of Ms Windows Vista Premium edeition that is specificlly intend for builders @  $109.0

Triumph Loves Vista

personified is defined as:
1. be perfect example of something: to be an embodiment or perfect example of something


****Issues are: My current Virus protection is not yet available for Vista.
 :' ( They told me in about 2 weeks)

All drivers were updated  from their mfg's web page

Running the game without issue for 5 days counting today.

My last PC setup would have choked on Vista

Come on in the water is fine...yea and...ahhhh...bring your check book

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Current Time = Mon Mar 26 22:31:06 2007 Pacific Daylight Time

Computer Name = TRIUMPH-PC
Number of Processors = 2


========== CPU ID Info ==========
Computer Name = TRIUMPH-PC
Number of Processors = 2

Processor 0:

Brand = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHzBrand = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz

Processor 1:

Brand = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHzBrand = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz


Current Time = Mon Mar 26 22:31:06 2007 Pacific Daylight Time


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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
  Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_C8153842&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 1051 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 284 MB
    Shared Memory: 767 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor

[Irwink!]

Uh oh. I think I can hear the villagers gathering now with their pitchforks and torches.

[Skuzzy]

In the meantime, the 52 other folks who cannot join the game because of problems with Vista would argue.

And those who are running it, are having to do so with much worse performance than XP Pro gave us.

And I will say it again.  If your computer is running better with Vista than it did with XP Pro, it is simply due to poor management of your CP Pro system.

The water is not fine.  It appears to have been bottled in Mexico.

If you spend an hour at MS's TechNet site, you would be running to the hills to get away from Vista.

[Puck]

What are you talking about, Skuzzy?  I LOVE Vista.

It just might be the end of the M$ monopoly.

[republic]

Yes children, drink the koolaid....  Vista is your friend...drink up little ones...