Author Topic: How Hillary will pay for her universal healthcare plan (Read 3002 times)

TwentyFo · « **Reply #60 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:32:13 AM »

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sluggish · « **Reply #61 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:37:53 AM »

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sluggish · « **Reply #62 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:47:18 AM »

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Originally posted by indy007
Why "universal health-care" is a lie, and stupid idea to begin with.

Great article indy. Unfortunately the folks that want more stuff for free can't see the forest for the trees. Preachin to the choir...

Because, "Well....healthcare is important."

Just not as important as a new plasma. or a 1000 channel sat dish. Or a 10 meg internet connection. Or a new car every-other year (plus one for the wife). Or a 2500 sq foot house for three people. Or a second home on the lake. Or a boat parked in front of that second home. Or a cell phone for your ten year old...

But just because healthcare isn't as important as all those other things, that doesn't mean that I shouldn't demand that the gubment provide it for me.

moot · « **Reply #63 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:52:16 AM »

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TwentyFo · « **Reply #64 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:55:08 AM »

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Originally posted by sluggish
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I was so serious about taking away Laz's right to vote

Back on topic. Affordable health care is a great idea. I'm still not sold on how a universal health care plan would work in this country. I think if someone gets sick they shouldn't have to hesitate about seeking treatment because of cost. I can guarantee everyone knows someone who has had medical hardships, and is up to their neck in medical bills. How is it a bad idea for them to get needed treatment at an affordable cost?

The major question is how do we get health care at an affordable cost? Raise taxes or keep taxes the same? I personally would not have a problem paying a higher tax rate in order to help someone get the care they needed at a lower cost. What's wrong with that? Whatever happened to helping one another?

sluggish · « **Reply #65 on:** February 05, 2008, 10:56:46 AM »

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TwentyFo · « **Reply #66 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:00:03 AM »

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Yeager · « **Reply #67 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:09:42 AM »

anytime you FORCE americans to take something they don want you are in for a world of hurt. We love choice. Hillary would garnish wages from people who refused to participate in her government mandated healthcare system. That is anti-american and she will be defeated. Go to canada or europe if you like that garbage but dont force it on the rest of us.

TwentyFo · « **Reply #68 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:16:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
anytime you FORCE americans to take something they don want you are in for a world of hurt. We love choice. Hillary would garnish wages from people who refused to participate in her government mandated healthcare system. That is anti-american and she will be defeated. Go to canada or europe if you like that garbage but dont force it on the rest of us.

Force it on the rest of us? If Hilary becomes president and her plan goes through, then it's our fault. She was voted in by the people, as well as our senators and congressmen. If she wins and the plan goes through, you can only blame the American people.

sluggish · « **Reply #69 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:16:56 AM »

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Originally posted by TwentyFo
I was so serious about taking away Laz's right to vote

Back on topic. Affordable health care is a great idea. I'm still not sold on how a universal health care plan would work in this country. I think if someone gets sick they shouldn't have to hesitate about seeking treatment because of cost. I can guarantee everyone knows someone who has had medical hardships, and is up to their neck in medical bills. How is it a bad idea for them to get needed treatment at an affordable cost?

The major question is how do we get health care at an affordable cost? Raise taxes or keep taxes the same? I personally would not have a problem paying a higher tax rate in order to help someone get the care they needed at a lower cost. What's wrong with that? Whatever happened to helping one another?

That's great and I admire your community spirit. You should volunteer at the local clinic. However, forced enrollment into a government mandated (not individual) healthcare pyramid scheme reeks of socialism bordering on communism.

WWhiskey · « **Reply #70 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:19:24 AM »

resistance is futile!
you will be assimilated!
Well they can try too assimilate my cold dead heart:cry

moot · « **Reply #71 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:20:59 AM »

"We need to go after people's wages" - Clinton.

midnight Target · « **Reply #72 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:39:39 AM »

We Have the "Best Health Care in the World"!!

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Fact One: The United States ranks 23rd in infant mortality, down from 12th in 1960 and 21st in 1990

Fact Two: The United States ranks 20th in life expectancy for women down from 1st in 1945 and 13th in 1960

Fact Three: The United States ranks 21st in life expectancy for men down from 1st in 1945 and 17th in 1960.

Fact Four: The United States ranks between 50th and 100th in immunizations depending on the immunization. Overall US is 67th, right behind Botswana

Fact Five: Outcome studies on a variety of diseases, such as coronary artery disease, and renal failure show the United States to rank below Canada and a wide variety of industrialized nations.

Conclusion: The United States ranks poorly relative to other industrialized nations in health care despite having the best trained health care providers and the best medical infrastructure of any industrialized nation

sluggish · « **Reply #73 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:43:52 AM »

MT,

Do you think putting clinton (or any other gubment beaurocrat for that matter) in charge of it, forcing 100 percent compliance will fix that problem? Perhaps the problem is that gubment is already too involved.

midnight Target · « **Reply #74 on:** February 05, 2008, 11:50:17 AM »

The problem is they are not involved enough.

Forgot the link last post...

http://cthealth.server101.com/the_case_for_universal_health_care_in_the_united_states.htm