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Offline midnight Target

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2008, 06:03:34 PM »
She lost ONLY because Obama is black. Appears that a lot of democrats are not color blind. Will you deny this?   

Obama's race certainly helped him more than it hurt, but it is by no means the "only" reason he won.

Once again, Hillary didn't lose because of the actions of the press and pundits. I'm just pointing out how shabbily she was treated and how the standard for evenhandedness regarding race has not yet been transfered to gender.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2008, 06:06:32 PM »
 Why is it only dirty pool if it is billary or a woman or race or whatever?   

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Because, and I hesitate to have to point out the obvious here, people don't choose their race or gender. It is unfair and kind of stupid to use something like race or gender as a means of attack on someone.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2008, 06:11:09 PM »
She lost ONLY because Obama is black. Appears that a lot of democrats are not color blind. Will you deny this?   

That, and as soon as Bill started stumping for her and appeared on stage with her at rallies, the first thing that jumps' to mind is Vincent Foster, Whitewater, and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. And those get tied to Hillary as much as Bill. It's no wonder that it seems' like Obama's track record is invisible, next to the Clintons.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2008, 06:28:54 PM »
yeah MT.. no other candidate has EVER been treated badly because he was an axehole..  and by treated badly I mean his hair style or looks or clothes or voice or whatever.

I have seen republicans who were pilloried by the liberal media because of their voice or hairstyle or clothes.

I think this is sour grapes on your part (and your links) and "hoisted on her own petard) in the case of billary...

Who would have thought that the liberal media would have used the same tactics on billary that they used on republicans cause...  wait for it...  cause billary was not liberal enough!

It is funny in the extreme.   Why is it only dirty pool if it is billary or a woman or race or whatever?   

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The so called  liberal media can still be masogonist. I totally agree that a lot of hate for Hillary is due to the fact that she sounds like "nagging wife" and she is a woman. Also, if you disagree with someone's political ideaologies and/or policies, does that make them a "bad" person?
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2008, 06:29:16 PM »
Obama's race certainly helped him more than it hurt, but it is by no means the "only" reason he won.

Once again, Hillary didn't lose because of the actions of the press and pundits. I'm just pointing out how shabbily she was treated and how the standard for evenhandedness regarding race has not yet been transfered to gender.

It may not be the only reason everyone who picked him did, but if he were white, Hillary would now be the nominee, meaning race was the deciding factor.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2008, 06:43:14 PM »
It may not be the only reason everyone who picked him did, but if he were white, Hillary would now be the nominee, meaning race was the deciding factor.

Wrong. If anything he earned the nomination because of the great campaign, his great speeches, and most of all the fact that he connected with many Americans (I forgot....Oprah too). Why would anyone vote for president out of pitty (It's only the most powerful position in the world)? Throughout his life he has accomplished many things through hard work, not because of his skin color.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2008, 07:13:40 PM »
Oh for Christs sakes MT, buy a clue.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2008, 08:05:31 PM »
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It's no wonder that it seems' like Obama's track record is invisible, next to the Clintons.

His track record was invisible because there was NOTHING about it in the media--Barack won some 13 primaries in a row with a majority of primary voters knowing not much more than he was a distinguished-looking-speaking black senator from Chicago. Had the Reverend Wright/Trinity Church business (which was there ALL ALONG) come out 2 weeks before Super Tuesday, Hillary would be graciously accepting Barack's concession right about now. Bill and Hillary are like a jilted lover who have yet to come to terms with the fact that their lover (the mainstream media) has found someone new, and thus no more fawning, fault-glossing-over coverage
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2008, 08:10:41 PM »
Once again, Hillary didn't lose because of the actions of the press and pundits. I'm just pointing out how shabbily she was treated and how the standard for evenhandedness regarding race has not yet been transfered to gender.

OH BOOO HOOOO. She got "treated" badly because she's a woman?? How about she got treated badly because her and her husband are dirty crooks that have been involved in more scandals and questionable ventures than any other political family in this country? I'd bet a years salary they have more skeletons in the closet than the Kennedy's do, and that's saying allot.

She didn't want to be president so she could work for this country, she wanted it because she's a greedy sweety who wants nothing more than power to herself.

I honestly hope Obama picks her as his running mate for VP. McCain would be a sure thing if that happened.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2008, 08:15:17 PM »
I think this is on topic:



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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2008, 08:25:51 PM »
The worst enemy of Hillary Clinton was and has always been Hillary Clinton.
It has nothing to do with the fact she is a woman
The Clinton machine gernered significant power in the Democratic party and she made a significant amount of enemies.
the way I understand it.
Democratic party members didnt respect Hillary. in fact many of them dont even like her.
They feared her.
She stepped on alot of toes on the way up and made alot of enemies in the proccess.
No doubt she stepped on a few toes with connections to the media as well

Now its payback time
I found it rather amusing how so many democratic party members and superdelegates were behind her until it looked as though Obamam might actually stand a chance. Then instead of helping to prop their "friend" up. They bailed like rats from a sinking ship

Like the saying goes.
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They might belong to the same person whos arse you have to kiss later.



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Besides.
She would have made a terrible president. Just as bad as Bush.
She's too devisive
People eaither love her or loath her.

We just went through 8 years of a devisive leader.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2008, 09:50:49 PM »
It may not be the only reason everyone who picked him did, but if he were white, Hillary would now be the nominee, meaning race was the deciding factor.

I think that is absolutely correct.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2008, 10:19:48 PM »
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It may not be the only reason everyone who picked him did, but if he were white, Hillary would now be the nominee, meaning race was the deciding factor
If he were white, he would just be a 1st term senator from Illinois. How many other 1st term senators can we even name? Guilty white liberals are tripping over themselves tryin to vote for this guy whom they know next to nothing about, and the people close to him universally refer to this as a racist country :rolleyes:
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2008, 10:30:11 PM »
Geez, I can't believe you guys are picking on Hillary, after she ran dodging sniper bullets and mortar rounds in Bosnia with a bayonet clenched between her teeth just to secure your freedoms.

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The woman couldn't even keep Bill from doing the wild thing with every skirt he came across, how could anyone expect her to run a country and try to keep the evil leaders of the world in check?
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2008, 11:09:28 PM »
Doesn't matter Toad. While that may be true enough, the sexism is still pervasive and wrong. Her personality, regardless of how it is perceived is still no excuse for the treatment she has received based solely on her sex. 

I have NO problem with a woman being pres..............

Hillary is something else all together!

Ya I know you like her MT but everything I've heard come out of her mouth makes me shudder!

Got NO use for her or Boxer or Fienstien and not overly fond of Polosie either.

None of em could get my vote!

And it's NOT because their female it's because of their POLITICS!

To me all of those I've mentioned are ANTI-FREEDOM types that want to control EVERYTHING!
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