Author Topic: pyro 190 a5 climbs too slow at alt (Read 2211 times)

funkedup · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2001, 03:49:00 PM »

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R4M · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:00:00 PM »

That is your interpretation. I have my own and is different even when I dont have the slightest problem to admit that, after seeing the P47 DTs fix;, while the F8 DT/Bomb/Rocket issue has been completely ignored for months, I really wondered wether it is a bias or not.

I still have faith in Pyro, tho. Time will tell if it is well placed faith. And be completely sure that if I thought otherwise I'd say it openly. I've NEVER have had any kind of problem saying what I think openly. So if I now I though he had a bias towards the 190, or the german planes, I'd also openly say it with no problems at all.

In the meantime I'd like your interpretations of my points to be presented as such: as interpretations. Quote me saying Pyro has a bias against the 190, or please stop putting in my name words I've never written.

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funkedup · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:06:00 PM »

This is getting too personal. I'm doing the thing I accused you of. Deleting posts. Check private messages RAM.

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moose · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2001, 01:24:00 PM »

It a conspiracy against the luftwaffe!

Pongo · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2001, 01:41:00 PM »

Ram
you ruined this post cause your to stupid to let someone else carry the torch for your cause. Someone much liklier to be successful then you.
YOU HURT THE CHANCES OF EVERY CHANGE YOU ADVOCATE
read that 20 times.
There isnt a person on this board that doents know its the truth. Including you somewhere in your poor oppresed and downtrodden mind.

hitech · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2001, 01:44:00 PM »

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Ram
you ruined this post cause your to stupid to let someone else carry the torch for your cause. Someone much liklier to be successful then you.
YOU HURT THE CHANCES OF EVERY CHANGE YOU ADVOCATE
read that 20 times.
There isnt a person on this board that doents know its the truth. Including you somewhere in your poor oppresed and downtrodden mind.

I 2nd that remark, ram is his own worst enemy.

HiTech

fats · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2001, 05:56:00 PM »

--- funked: ---
They don't divulge their sources
--- end ---

I faintly remember Pyro once posting the name of the firm where they have gotten some non public domain information.

// fats

Furious · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2001, 06:15:00 PM »

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I 2nd that remark, ram is his own worst enemy.

HiTech

Uhmm, HT are you saying that even if Ram is right, that you won't make the changes because you don't like him?

F.

hitech · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2001, 07:03:00 PM »

No I'm say that ram making noise, especialy like the one he did here provides no help and hurts the cause some what.

It changes a purly factual discusion into something with emotions and finger pointing ,acuzations and chest thumping, behind it.

Ram has gotten to a point where no mater what ram sais it is so lost in his clutter that we tend to just not read his post. I't is almost imposible to read any of rams post with out seeing alteriative motives behind them. Take the last release where we change the p47. A simple bug that was found and fixed on our part, turns into a we screwed up even more by ONLY chaning the p47 do to ram. After listening to that stuff for long enof, we no longer respect those posters.

I can't look at any of rams post any longer with out think he has one agenenda, to make luftwafa planes uber. Incorect or not that is how it effects us.

HiTech

Staga · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2001, 07:33:00 PM »

Well HT now you're here so what's up with that climb speed Zig mentioned in his post?
Are those numbers correct or not?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #25 on:** December 18, 2001, 08:49:00 PM »

So HT are you guys gonna look into this then?

R4M · « **Reply #26 on:** December 19, 2001, 01:51:00 AM »

See I'm not entering a personal discussion about any matter, and less in a public forum ,Hitech.

I just find sad that after many 190 threads posted with hard data backup, finally someone at HTC finally choose to post in it but NOT to talk about the 190 itself. And I find sad too, that you won't have posted in this thread if it wasn't to talk about me. The Fw190 FM would've still been ignored.

BTW not all 190 threads in this forum were posted by me. In fact, just ONE 190 thread (the 190A5 SL speed) was started by me, and I think it was posted in a civil way.

And nothing came from you guys. Not a yes, not a no. Just nothing. You bypassed those threads without any answer when you did answer other complains and questions regarding other planes. And that is my complain.

See, HT you can take this answer as you want to take it. But I'll tell you that if you think I believe HTC holds an anti-german bias, and that I'd pay a monthly fee to fly an intentionally porked game made for a biased develoment team, then you're way off target.

If until today, most months I've voted in a favorable way HTC and AH with my CC...and if I have broughy several new players to this game as I have done...and if I have done more things to favor HTC that I can't name in public (but I'm sure you and Pyro still remember)...if you think I've done all that for a biased dev. team then you're taking me for a fool. And I'm not one.

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GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #27 on:** December 19, 2001, 02:43:00 AM »

Look at it this way, RAM.

HTC fixed the ridiculously short 109 oil leak time and the 190 single engine ping bug. Maybe they'll fix this and the 190 speed and add some more ordnance in the next release.

You really can't say that they haven't been looking after Luftwaffe planes.

Fishu · « **Reply #28 on:** December 19, 2001, 04:12:00 AM »

Well.. they fixed long ago lacking speed of 109G10 and its overly tough torque.
I think FW190a8 speed or climb was fixed also one time or so.

...oh.. to better of course.

-ammo- · « **Reply #29 on:** December 19, 2001, 07:50:00 AM »

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Originally posted by R4M:
See I'm not entering a personal discussion about any matter, and less in a public forum ,Hitech.

I just find sad that after many 190 threads posted with hard data backup, finally someone at HTC finally choose to post in it but NOT to talk about the 190 itself. And I find sad too, that you won't have posted in this thread if it wasn't to talk about me. The Fw190 FM would've still been ignored.

BTW not all 190 threads in this forum were posted by me. In fact, just ONE 190 thread (the 190A5 SL speed) was started by me, and I think it was posted in a civil way.

And nothing came from you guys. Not a yes, not a no. Just nothing. You bypassed those threads without any answer when you did answer other complains and questions regarding other planes. And that is my complain.

See, HT you can take this answer as you want to take it. But I'll tell you that if you think I believe HTC holds an anti-german bias, and that I'd pay a monthly fee to fly an intentionally porked game made for a biased develoment team, then you're way off target.

If until today, most months I've voted in a favorable way HTC and AH with my CC...and if I have broughy several new players to this game as I have done...and if I have done more things to favor HTC that I can't name in public (but I'm sure you and Pyro still remember)...if you think I've done all that for a biased dev. team then you're taking me for a fool. And I'm not one.

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Yea, you are a real saint, we all see that.