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Offline AKIron

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1800 on: June 09, 2024, 04:09:00 PM »
In DCS human flown Mig-21s appear to be much easier to beat than AI. Gonna hafta try my hand at that.



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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1801 on: June 09, 2024, 04:19:35 PM »
From my perspective the difference between at least two of the AI flown Migs is that they don't lose energy like they do when flown by a human. Maybe they have a private tap into unlimited quantum energy.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1802 on: June 09, 2024, 05:03:32 PM »
I know I said it here before but Ima say it again. Team play against a reasonably competent AI constrained by our laws of physics is satisfying. When I played sports in school 50 years ago sportsmanship was ingrained and more important even than winning. Those days seem to be largely gone. Beating or being beaten by AI creates no drama. Read the General board to see some. My appetite for drama has waned.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1803 on: June 09, 2024, 05:43:55 PM »
Quote from: AKIron on June 09, 2024, 04:19:35 PM
From my perspective the difference between at least two of the AI flown Migs is that they don't lose energy like they do when flown by a human. Maybe they have a private tap into unlimited quantum energy.

They certainly used to have "unlimited quantum engergy".  ED has done a lot of work on AI in recent years and it's improved exponentially.  Still has issues.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1804 on: June 09, 2024, 05:56:10 PM »
Quote from: AKIron on June 09, 2024, 04:09:00 PM
In DCS human flown Mig-21s appear to be much easier to beat than AI. Gonna hafta try my hand at that.



depends on the settings
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1805 on: June 09, 2024, 06:03:08 PM »
Life isn't fair but I expect my AI opponent to obey the same rules applied to me. I won't dumb him down, ace level it must be.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1806 on: June 10, 2024, 05:29:53 PM »
Too quiet here. Have some lols.

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1807 on: June 10, 2024, 07:07:51 PM »
Quote from: AKIron on June 10, 2024, 05:29:53 PM
Too quiet here. Have some lols.



LoL. 

I guess Goose didn't talk to him.

Wish he had linked the Tacview for that.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1808 on: June 10, 2024, 07:15:16 PM »
Quote from: CptTrips on June 09, 2024, 09:59:32 AM

So Animl derides DCS for having AAA level graphics.

And then admits that the inability to compete on graphics with current market competitors is one of the core reasons AH has failed to maintain market share and unable to acquire it.

I agree, BTW, it is one of the top 3 causes. 

So lets not pretend anymore that graphics are not important.  They are a potential customers first impression of you game before they've ever played it.  It is the "Curb Appeal" that is a necessary, but not sufficient factor in capturing market share.

I don't think the dwindling numbers has anything to with graphics, I mean look how popular minecraft is and that game as 16x16 textures!
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1809 on: June 10, 2024, 07:36:21 PM »
No blood thirsty vampyres biting at your tail in the valleys of Minecraft.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1810 on: June 10, 2024, 08:06:57 PM »
Quote from: TryHard on June 10, 2024, 07:15:16 PM
I don't think the dwindling numbers has anything to with graphics, I mean look how popular minecraft is and that game as 16x16 textures!

Minecraft is intentionally bad.
It's part of it's aesthetic. 
Like Tiny Wings.

It's different when you are trying your best and and just not measuring up.

Have you tried to interest a friend in AH?  What was the reactions you got?

I invariably got two back to back reactions:

"Hmmm those graphics look kinda dated."
and
"Oh wait.  Subscription?  You have to pay subscription to play?" <stink face>

Less effect on existing players leaving.  But eventually it's just one more factor making competition look attractive.

The reviews on the Steam page pretty much echo that as a common reaction by those downloading the trial there too.



What's your theory?




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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1811 on: June 11, 2024, 06:12:09 AM »
AH is like my 1969 vw bug...

Fun to drive but not for most as it had no air conditioning and occasionally had to be pushed started..kinda warm in the Florida summers..not to mention manual transmission

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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1812 on: June 11, 2024, 08:38:26 AM »
Quote from: Eagler on June 11, 2024, 06:12:09 AM
AH is like my 1969 vw bug...

Fun to drive but not for most as it had no air conditioning and occasionally had to be pushed started..kinda warm in the Florida summers..not to mention manual transmission

Eagler


But easy for a shade-tree mechanic to work on.
Nice simple engine. 


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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1813 on: June 11, 2024, 09:02:03 AM »
I had a couple of early 70's models Beetles. Wish I'd kept one.
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Re: Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable
« Reply #1814 on: June 11, 2024, 10:07:09 AM »
My 72 Super beetle I painted myself a hundred years ago.

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