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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #120 on: November 01, 2002, 11:12:08 PM »
Hehe, my neighbor said this, my neighbor said that.  Who cares?  Why do you guys have to keep pushing this?  Immaturity?  Stupidity?  

JJ is the biggest waste of an excuse for a human being.  He preaches "unity" while he creates unrest by fathering illegitimate kids.  HE ACTUALLY RAN FOR PRESIDENT?!  He would have fit right in.  Whoo, what a first-class spokesman.  Al "I just love to sue period" Sharpton.  Wake me up when he FINALLY says something that is remotely intelligent.  He'd sue a sheep for trespassing in a cow pasture for crying out loud.

Judging by your final sentence you have watched those mindless tv game shows that teach America one thing: GREED.  You must watch Survivor,  and all of those scripted "reality" shows, that have no impact or bearing on society.  

I grew up around Blacks (mother taught in Detroit for 28 years).  Went to her school often to teach, help, pitch in.  You can't just label someone you don't know until you look at him from all planes.  I've seen toejam you WISH you would NEVER see.  Still have MANY "Black" friends.  My brother is Vietnamese,  half of you don't know what racism is.  You haven't had to scrap in he street because some moron shoots his mouth off.   You THINK you do, you DON'T.   So here is a nice warm cup of STFU!

Goth, stay away from this pathetic attempt of "divine rightousness".  It isn't worth it.   They'll maul each other to see who is the most "NON-RACIST" one in here.

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« Reply #121 on: November 01, 2002, 11:38:04 PM »
Oh no Airhead, (name so aptly applied) you have pegged me right on the nose. It couldn't be that I just hired a black female in a highly competitive position. It couldn't be that I am totally impressed with her, I'm too racist for that.

It couldn't be that I served in the military along side many black people, some above me and some below me in rank. I could never admire a man like General Powell.

I could never respect a black man of peace like Dr. King. Or even a jew like Jesus.

You people are so arrogant it's funny. You know so much yet display so little.

Yeah, I'm a card carrying Klansman in a Hitler Youth Group. If you're the representative (and Saburo is clumped here too) of peace and goodwill, then I am glad I am a white man who hates.

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« Reply #122 on: November 02, 2002, 12:38:38 AM »
You know.... I'm w/Goth on this one. There is alot of self rightous crap being spewed here. Racism... what IS it gents? You see thats the bloody problem anymore. Its been spewed so much,abused so much NOBODY can really tell you where it begins and where it ends.

Personaly I'll decide if I like you by getting to know you or your actions. I couldnt give a rats bellybutton about something called pigmentation or wiether your culture makes you wear some funny hat on your head.

Now.... I think the entire reperations thing is complete utter BS. I couldnt give a rats bellybutton if your ancestors where shipped over here.
What the hell does this have to do w/me? Why the hell should I feel guilty? Hell, how many immigrants worked basicly as friggen serfs/slaves when they came over in textile mills? How many Asian Americans died laying track for railroads? Jesus... do we owe them all hard cash?

The friggen problem is somebody has forgoten Martin L Kings dream. Instead of working towards the future..they wanna pull the past. Instead of working towards a tomarrow where people dont see Black/White/yellow/red..etc they want to make you all that MORE aware/self concious of these so called differences.



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Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #123 on: November 02, 2002, 12:59:52 AM »
"It couldn't be that I just hired a black female in a highly competitive position. It couldn't be that I am totally impressed with her,"

Watch yourself there Goth! Stating that you are impressed with a black person's job performance could betrey your true racism in that you are surprised with them and in really expected that person to fail thus confirming your racist prejudices of black inferiority...  Welcome to the modern view of race politics. :(

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« Reply #124 on: November 02, 2002, 01:08:32 AM »
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« Reply #125 on: November 02, 2002, 01:50:57 AM »
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The friggen problem is somebody has forgoten Martin L Kings dream. Instead of working towards the future..they wanna pull the past. Instead of working towards a tomarrow where people dont see Black/White/yellow/red..etc they want to make you all that MORE aware/self concious of these so called differences.
 



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« Reply #126 on: November 02, 2002, 01:56:55 AM »
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Oh no Airhead, (name so aptly applied) you have pegged me right on the nose. It couldn't be that I just hired a black female in a highly competitive position. It couldn't be that I am totally impressed with her, I'm too racist for that.


LOL First of all, I'm glad you like my name. It's a title as much as a moniker, but it's the one I've had since AOL Air Warrior, so it suits me just fine. I'm glad you like it too.

Goth, I really don't care who you hire for what, all I'm responding to is your comments, which in my opinion are racist. If you want to puff up and talk about your record as a corporate recruiter for Burger King or McDonald's or whatever I really don't care because your offer to pay the air fares of any African Americans who feel their lot might be improved by going "home" has spoke volumes about you. You are a racist, or at the least you have made a racist comment. But that's OK, because you fit right in with much of White America.

Really Goth I don't give a rat's bellybutton that you are a racist, I don't give a rat's bellybutton you are "impressed" that an African American girl can perform your minimum wage job requirements and I don't give a rat's bellybutton you live in a 1 bedroom apartment and think you are achieving some sembelance of the American Dream. Really, you guys worrying about what the "people of color" are up to should worry more about improving your own lot in life and less about what "affermative action," that enemy of the trailer park ignorant, is doing to wreck your life. Don't worry, the amount of reperations you will ever pay is much less than what I leave in tips in restaurants and bars daily anyway.

Like I said, if you walk like a duck and you quack like a duck then you're a friggin duck. Now quit trying to cluck like a chicken.

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« Reply #127 on: November 02, 2002, 02:03:20 AM »
Airhead arent you racist by assuming that black woman must be working in a minimum wage job?

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« Reply #128 on: November 02, 2002, 02:16:24 AM »
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I personally think inserting words to the Preamble and Dec. of Ind. is worse than racism.  Gee, Let's see a DOCUMENT written by "slave owners".  

I say, give them the money.  Because then when that doesn't satisfy the thirst, tell the world to "STFU"!   You see, giving them something ($3 billion) is too much.  Settle on a lesser figure.  "The Victims" have now used the FINAL EXCUSE.   Think about that one for a second.  

Saboru, I have been told by many "black" people that have agreed on one thing.  "All people are prejudiced, it coms down to true honesty".  

PS - stop the debauchery of the Dec. of Indep. and Constitution.

You owe every vet that fought and died for this country that much.  I do.

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LOL, you are funny. You complain about a passage that I happen to feel is very important and very valid. Not a bad goal for any country to strive for. Yet some of the prejudiced comments do not 'bother' you. Very odd. Again, we're not talking about the reparations issue (so far all of us agree it is a bad idea), but the continued arguements against "THEM" and "sending back to Africa", or "THEY'RE better off here than 'THOSE' in Africa".
Sorry, but we're talking about fellow Americans, not Africans. BTW any avg American regardless of race is better off here than the average African (or Chinese for that matter).
BTW far more whites have taken advantage of welfare than any individual minority.

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Saboru, I have been told by many "black" people that have agreed on one thing.  "All people are prejudiced, it coms down to true honesty".  


Sure, I'll buy that. We all pre-judge things, people, animals etc of those we don't know. (again you tend to want to group people as you felt you had a need to quote "black" people (as if that somehow makes you an expert) Why not Asians? Europeans? Arabs?
If you mean all people are racist then I'll disagree...honestly.
You might be, but I am not. LOL, your friends haven't met me.
Have I been discriminated against? You bet. Did I like it? Heck no.
Valuable lesson I learned at a fairly young age. Opened my eyes to what racism was. That's why I am not a racist. I refuse to take skin color as a part of evaluating someone. It's just not a fair thing to do.

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PS - stop the debauchery of the Dec. of Indep. and Constitution.
You owe every vet that fought and died for this country that much.  I do.


LOL, and you preach to me what I can and can't say. It's ok to spew hatred and racism, but not anything in our Declaration of Independence? Yeah, I can see it now. They're rolling in their graves as I post! Get a grip.
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« Reply #129 on: November 02, 2002, 02:30:37 AM »
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Hehe, my neighbor said this, my neighbor said that. Who cares? Why do you guys have to keep pushing this? Immaturity? Stupidity?


So what's your excuse? Immaturity or Stupidity or both?

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JJ is the biggest waste of an excuse for a human being. He preaches "unity" while he creates unrest by fathering illegitimate kids. HE ACTUALLY RAN FOR PRESIDENT?! He would have fit right in. Whoo, what a first-class spokesman. Al "I just love to sue period" Sharpton. Wake me up when he FINALLY says something that is remotely intelligent. He'd sue a sheep for trespassing in a cow pasture for crying out loud.


LOL, and you wake me up when you finally say anything that is remotely intelligent.

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I grew up around Blacks (mother taught in Detroit for 28 years). Went to her school often to teach, help, pitch in. You can't just label someone you don't know until you look at him from all planes. I've seen toejam you WISH you would NEVER see. Still have MANY "Black" friends. My brother is Vietnamese, half of you don't know what racism is. You haven't had to scrap in he street because some moron shoots his mouth off. You THINK you do, you DON'T. So here is a nice warm cup of STFU!


The question is, do you know what true racism is, and if you do, do you practice it? Ahh the oh so intelligent STFU response. Please don't tell me that is the most intelligent retort you can come up with.

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Goth, stay away from this pathetic attempt of "divine rightousness". It isn't worth it. They'll maul each other to see who is the most "NON-RACIST" one in here.


Yup, speaking up against racism/prejudice/hatred is just so pathetic.

What's truely pathetic is your lack of understanding.

BTW, name anyone here that has said that they support reparation payments?
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« Reply #130 on: November 02, 2002, 02:57:06 AM »
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Airhead arent you racist by assuming that black woman must be working in a minimum wage job?


Nah, I just assume someone like Goth couldn't have much more authority to nominate anyone to anything more than a minimum wage job, given his overt ignorance. Believe me, I have no doubt the vast majority of people Goth interviews have much more ability than he does regardless of their race. The fact that he might be in a position of influence over people of color, in light of his pronouncements, convinces me that racism exists in America today among those making nine dollars an hour hiring those making eight dollars an hour. The fact that they are all slaves is lost upon them, but so what? I care about Goth and his hirees much less than I care about the encroaching blackberry bushes creeping over the top of my fence from my neighbor's yard, so as far as I'm concerned Goth and the rest of the bigots quoted by SaburoS can kiss my lily white ass. Seriously, you do not matter to me.

 Like I said, if you waddle like a duck and you quack like a duck then you're a fuggin duck. Quit clucking like a chicken.

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« Reply #131 on: November 02, 2002, 04:25:17 AM »
maybe all people of europeon decent are owed reparations from Mongolia for bringing europe the black plague (they also brought the renaisance though...)

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« Reply #132 on: November 02, 2002, 09:02:03 AM »
Here's a hint for you morons that don't know what racism is.  It's judging some one based on thier race.

IE:  Send THEM back to Africa.  Them includes ALL black Americans, hell even those that are against reperations themselves.

Reparations aren't racist because they don't target white people.  They target the institutinos and companies that profitted from it.

No one on this tread has yet to say that they support reparations.  But don't let that get in the way of your little Klan meeting.
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« Reply #133 on: November 02, 2002, 09:38:13 AM »
I'm not a racist. I made a comment about it, meaning that I find it amusing that such a subject is even making national news. I also find it amusing that such a person with the smarts that Cochran has thinks this will go anywhere but right where some of you took it. It's a racial powder keg. Sorry if some of you may think I may be racist.

Cochran made a comment that the edcuated in his race that have made it good in "White America" aren't has interested in this....Makes me wonder why?

Think what you want....Say what you want....It is in my opinion just another way to stir up crap.

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« Reply #134 on: November 02, 2002, 09:46:18 AM »
Come on Thrawn, you can do better than that.

Proposition:  Reperations.

Response: Send them back to africa if they want reperations.

Thrawn's interpretation:  This response, for all you ignorant bigots, means all african americans including those not asking for reperations.  This is a klan meeting.



Who's stereotyping here Thrawn?