HT, Please don't splode. My bad....I was indeed confusing torque/p-factor with slipstream. I was reading some of the other posts and from some of my own strictly antectodal experience I thought that things may have been dialed back a notch. The post, poorly worded as it was, was mearly a question, not an accusation. The difference between slipstream and torque had actually occurred to me, but having never flown an f4, I wouldn't know. My apologies. BTW, the departure from controlled flight characteristics of the f6 are really impressive. I dont know how accurate they are, but they are definately smooth and exceptionally life like in my estimation...for what it's worth.
I'm a bit concerned about the "what YOU wanted" statement. Did you make changes to the AH flight model based solely on something that I posted? Please don't do that. If I make a suggestion that you think helps you then I'm happy for having helped you make this a more successfull game, but I don't do this for a living so please don't give my suggestions any more weight than anyone elses. I don't post references to aircraft specs and various other documented flight data in my posts specifically because I dont study this stuff like some do and the last thing I'm trying to do is pass myself off as an expert in anything related to flight sims. (You wanna talk stock market, then I'm there

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I, like everyone else of course, certainly notices when changes are made that coincide with things that we've suggested and your willingness to accept suggestions from the community by all accounts is greatly apreciated.
Liars? About flight model? Was there a post somewhere that I've missed here? My post was definately not a backhanded way of calling you a liar. A poorly worded request for more info, definately. I expected a response, (if any), to be more along the lines of "well, we needed to turn it down some for awhile to give people time to catch up" or "what?, are you nutts, that's less slipstream effect you idiot, and it's as whoopee accurate as we can make it".
Please don't think for one minute that I dont think this to be an extraodinary piece of work. I didn't mean to suggest that you go back to 1.03, clearly the current edition is the more accurate, slipstream effect or not.
I threw the post together at work, while doing 2 other things at the same time and I agree that in retrospect it set the wrong tone. The term "dumbed down" sounds a bit inflamatory, and upon closer review is probably what primarily set you off? Bad choice of words, ..I apologize. But Liar? I've been in the military, either part time or full time for goin' on 18 years now and I take honor seriously...very seriously. If I'd have meant to call you a liar I would have been very direct and forthright about it. There would have been no doubt about what I was saying. I wasn't.
The next time I consider posting something that you may have serious disagreement with I will insure that it's worded in a less inflamatory manner.
CRASH.....OUT