rook gameplay ruining beta fun..

[lazs2]

1 vs 1?  who said anything about 1 vs 1?  I like 5 v 3 or 8 vs 7 from either side..  

What I don't like is 20 attacking a field of 3 defenders and simply B & Z ing or if a decent fight starts the MA mentality kicks in and one side launches 10 more planes to "help" or sinks the CV to "help" because everyone knows that 'real' war was allways lopsided..

zanth.. yu are no doubt right.  it is probly good for business..  lot of new guys taking comfort in risk free behavior and fooling themselves into thinking they are "contributing" or learning.  

The old style of player who paid $2 an hour or more is no longer with us... they felt cheated if there was nothing to do for 5-10 minutes and took getting shot down as a sign that they needed to get into more fights to get better ... not, get into less fights so they wouldn't die as often.

lazs

[SOB]

It would be nice if the perk rides were disabled, but I guess it's hard to test them when they can't be flown.

[gofaster]

Hence the reason I'm starting a grass-roots effort to

(1) add more player-manned acks at airfields.
(2) offer a variety of calibres for player-manned acks at airfields.
(3) offer player-manned acks at the cities.

[Shuckins]

When AHII goes live, some of this will be sorted out.  LW planes will again be perked, reducing the tendency for some to risk what are, for some, hard-earned perk points.

I would like to see more ack positions added to the fields, so that setting up a field for a vulch-fest would be harder to do.

Shuckins/Leggern

[kj714]

Originally posted by lazs2
1 vs 1?  who said anything about 1 vs 1?  I like 5 v 3 or 8 vs 7 from either side..  

What I don't like is 20 attacking a field of 3 defenders and simply B & Z ing or if a decent fight starts the MA mentality kicks in and one side launches 10 more planes to "help" or sinks the CV to "help" because everyone knows that 'real' war was allways lopsided..

zanth.. yu are no doubt right.  it is probly good for business..  lot of new guys taking comfort in risk free behavior and fooling themselves into thinking they are "contributing" or learning.  

The old style of player who paid $2 an hour or more is no longer with us... they felt cheated if there was nothing to do for 5-10 minutes and took getting shot down as a sign that they needed to get into more fights to get better ... not, get into less fights so they wouldn't die as often.

lazs

Are missions enabled in AH2? You know that's what gets it (the horde thingy) going. Personally, I avoid missions for the most part, it's usually a lot of flying and no real action. But I've seen some who will get started in a mission and fly it forever until it finally runs out.

[SLO]

I played AH2 all this weekend .....

seems there's a shift....was doin alot of defence vs. nits north and alot of defence vs. rooks south....

actually was fun being outnumbered....been awhile....sharpens the reflexes....

[214thCavalier]

When its temp after temp after temp your fighting or perhaps i should say fighting a furball of temps with the odd 109 or spit XIV thrown in its boring and like pissing up wind.

Kinda hard to get the enthusiasm to go back in.

The AH2 "golden era" of actually having good fights against people who dont want or need a perkie or gang crutch has sadly passed away.

[mars01]

I'm with ya gofaster,

I think the distinction between manned and AI acks should be lost.

All ack should be manable and if no one is in it the AI should take over.

[Kweassa]

A lot of the times, guilty as charged. I've personally been jumping countries to try and help even out the situations, asking and recommending fellow Rooks to follow but *shrug* they just won't listen.

 However, don't take all of the accusations literally boys.

 Because from what I've seen, the 'vocal' have a way of jumping into a disadvantaged situation like moth to a flame. When they live through it they mock the enemies. When they die because of the stupid actions, then they mock the enemies. Geez, no way to please them, is there?

 I've seen also many cases, despite overall equal numbers of players, the numbers between two forces differ to various reasons. They go voluntarily smack their heads against numerous enemies, and then they start blaming the other side for their sorry demise - when actually the reason why they couldn't have the same number of planes in the area, was because their own buddies were busy gangbanging the third country.

 So let's quit the holier-than-thou business. Getting tired of people getting mad at the other side for their stupid actions. Maybe it's the wonderful "charm" and "attitude" you guys do not hesitate to display on Channel 1, which makes people think twice before jumping countries. I know I sure wouldn't want to jump countries to go help a pottymouth.

[Redd]

Originally posted by 214thCavalier
When its temp after temp after temp your fighting or perhaps i should say fighting a furball of temps with the odd 109 or spit XIV thrown in its boring and like pissing up wind.

Kinda hard to get the enthusiasm to go back in.

The AH2 "golden era" of actually having good fights against people who dont want or need a perkie or gang crutch has sadly passed away.

Well it's turned exactly the same in off-peak as well.

What they don't seem to understand is how much you can learn/improve by fighting rather than running.

The guys that flew CK/wb beta or AH beta got to fight and die thousands of times without caring about score or points etc  

That experience was invaluable to anyone who went through it. So now today people have exactly the same opportunity . Take your favourite plane , and launch in to furballs/situations  against planes you would perhaps normally avoid , and try your best to kill people and survive.  ( for some people this is just normal anyway - so ignore this paragraph    )

While doing this you learn more about what  you and your plane can  or cannot do  than flying around cherrypicking or hording.

But what do they do - grab a tempest and fly around Bnz from 20 K in a group , and then run to the ack as soon as they don't like the look of the situation (ie someone as got within 2K of them)


Cracks me up, what a waste of an opportunity



Redd


P.S.  and on another topic - I seem to be able to fight nikis more effectively in AH2   (in F6-f) . Am I just imagining this ?

[SLO]

Originally posted by Redd

P.S.  and on another topic - I seem to be able to fight nikis more effectively in AH2   (in F6-f) . Am I just imagining this ?

wait till Taki and his Niki dweeb horde comes in...then you will know:aok

[IK0N]

10 commandments of Beta
Thou shall switch countries to even thy hords
Thou shall not covet thy neighbors kill
Thou shall not HO thy enemy
Thou Shall not park thy tiger on thy enemies airfield
Thou shall not spawn camp thy enemy
Thou shall fly the way thy neighbor wishes
Thou shall only engage thy enemy when odds are even
Thou shall not pork thy enemies fuel
Thou shall not Dis thy enemy on text
Thou shall not incessantly whine on Range channel at thy neighbor for any reason period..



 IKON

[Urchin]

People have been practicing running and ganging and base-porking for 2+ years now.....

Why would the arrival of a new graphics engine make it any different?  

The arrival of TOD *may* have some kind of impact on the gameplay, it will take the emphasis off of base-porking as a means of "winning" I think.  Probably won't put the emphasis back on fighting, since only the player-base can do that, but time will tell.

[Morpheus]

Urchin, your sig makes me want to find the highest bridge and, jump off it.

[Urchin]

Yea, me too.