Author Topic: Sailing Toward a Storm in China (Read 2356 times)

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:03:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
But Reuters isnt communits is it?

The Reuters link explains that while the US is conducting war games at the NDU (on paper), and doing carrier exercises which doesn't appear to be particularly close to China or Taiwan, the Chinese are conducting actual amphibious landings only about 150 miles from Taiwan, while issuing threatening articles via their state-run media (see following post). But somehow fools can look at this info and translate it into "Teh USA is threatening teh China!!!!"

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:08:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
Poke the big dog with a stick... how smart.

Yep, not very smart of the Chinese.

Slash27 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:28:45 PM »

No they invaded the US on the CA coast and in the gulf. Their armys made it all the way to north carolina until they were finally beat.

They must have avoided Texas at all costs.

1Duke1 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:34:02 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
BTW I've found nothing to back up the author's claim that 7 CVN task forces will be operating between China and Taiwan. As near as I can tell, Summer Pulse is just working on the capability to sortie almost all of our carriers at once. They are not all operating in the same area. This whole thing is just more lefty AFDB paranoia, just like the selective service hysteria. That website is almost certainly a communist front.

There will not be 7 CV's operating between China and Taiwan. The Johnson piece is full of crap. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

demaw1 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:40:00 PM »

Well, the 7 cvn task force idea has been reported a decent number of times here in s/ca. today.Personally I believe it to be a great idea to show we can control that large a force that far from home.[ ah please God help us control it lol.] I do understand the thinking that it could be another Pearl Harbor, but I dont yet for 2 reasons.
The biggest 1 is China is not ready, but has been testing our resolve about Taiwan.China is very differant then others because what we may want done in ten years China could wait 200 years for.No China isnt ready yet but when she is nothing will stop her from attacking the U.S. China is taking her time but working very hard toward the time she can hit us.
I dont believe we are going to put 7 task forces between them,I dont even think it is possible given the standard o.p.[s.o.p.]What u all think, 2 in and 5 spread out over 150 miles to 600 miles timing it when 2 come out 2 go in etc?Also I think they are using 7 because that is more weight we can throw at them then they can at us,plus what we have here, just in case.Say in 1985 we could have sent 4....1955 2...to achieve same purpose now it is 7,does this make anyone stop and think?

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:44:45 PM »

PS Nilsen - Nothing personal. I just get sick and tired of "journalists" like Mr. Johnson.

Nilsen · « **Reply #36 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:46:30 PM »

np Funked.... i have no idea who it is. i just found the article on a website about naval things that i trawl through every day

Torque · « **Reply #37 on:** July 16, 2004, 06:46:46 PM »

Yeah, you're beginning to sound like an Arvo Arrow head, er.. i mean thread.

Eagler · « **Reply #38 on:** July 16, 2004, 07:54:41 PM »

they wanna give the chinamen a chance to test out their new sub

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040716-123134-8152r.htm

or for us to play with it

think they have the kahonas to pull a flyby stunt like before? I don't think so, not with the a/c 7 cv'c would have orbiting about

Nash · « **Reply #39 on:** July 16, 2004, 08:02:12 PM »

lol "chinamen".... almost as good as "negroes".

Boroda · « **Reply #40 on:** July 16, 2004, 08:14:15 PM »

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Originally posted by MrCoffee
China said they they will take back Taiwan at all costs very recently. So I think this is a gesture of, "yeah right" to them.

Move along, nothing to see here, cough ***.

China says so for at least 50 years now. So, I suppose, American carriers gather in large groups because they are afraid they can get hurt by Communist front-line bombers like this: http://www.pstripes.com/dec00/ed120900a.html

Or, even better, here: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a2f28db67ab.htm

The carrier USS Kitty Hawk took 40 minutes to launch its first plane after its commander ordered a response to approaching Russian warplanes that buzzed directly over the carrier's conning tower, Navy sources say.

Their account contradicts an official version of the Oct. 17 incident in the Sea of Japan and a subsequent Russian flyover while the Kitty Hawk's crew underwent training in international waters near Russia.
Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon on Nov. 30 quoted the Navy as telling him, "In both cases, the planes were acquired by the battle group's radar at a considerable distance, and in both cases, interceptors were put into the air and the planes maintained a suitable distance away from the Kitty Hawk."
But two Navy sources say that in the first incident, the Russian planes, an Su-27 Flanker and Su-24 Fencer, flew directly over the Kitty Hawk's tower. One source said they swooped to 200 feet; another Navy official said "several hundred feet."
From the moment the commander ordered planes launched, it took 40 minutes to scramble aircraft.
The first to launch was an EA-6B Prowler, an electronic warfare jet unsuitable for intercepting, one Navy source said. Later, F-18s went airborne to cut off the two Russian planes. A Navy official disputed this, saying he was told that F-18 Hornets were the first to launch.

Damn. Three flyovers by two front-line bombers covered by two or four fighters

I wonder how many officers had to wash their pants after Su-24s passed them by at 60m

waving wings to greet our American strategic partners.

Lizking · « **Reply #41 on:** July 16, 2004, 08:29:14 PM »

How many overflights did we make of Moscow?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #42 on:** July 16, 2004, 08:32:10 PM »

talk about being owned

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Following the Oct. 17 flyover, the Russians tweaked the Americans by e-mailing photographs of the carrier’s deck and its warplanes directly to the Kitty Hawk crew’s webmaster through the ship’s Web site, Wensing acknowledged.

in all fairness baroda the carrier was in "alert 30".....they were also in the proscess of refueling another ship

Slash27 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 16, 2004, 08:40:57 PM »

Russian military still serving dogfood?

demaw1 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 16, 2004, 08:55:02 PM »

Boroda are u living on earth or phoneing this in from the klingon empire?

every carrier in international waters has 2 planes up at all times as cap. [ o k there are a few exceptsions but the russion planes wouldnt be up either] even when we had carriers at long beach a lot of time the 2 fighters were patroling on the other side of catalina.now if u saying this happened in carter years ok i give u that.