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Offline JB88

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« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2005, 11:58:17 PM »
its one of those page three news items.

thats were the future lies if you ask me...page three.
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« Reply #76 on: January 22, 2005, 12:00:37 AM »
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Yeah, good thing Japan and China are exactly the same so the anology holds.  :rolleyes:


At least we will have company when China does the same thing to Europe in 20 years.


No, but the calls for doom and despair are identical...

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

I wonder will all the new US corporate/action/futuristic movies feature little shops selling fried rat and chinese style advertisins like 1980s movies did with Japanese themes...

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« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2005, 12:15:41 AM »
I'll let you military experts hash this out while I worry about **** that actually worries me.

I think some of you are very ignorant about US military technology and the impact it has on a conventional battleground.

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« Reply #78 on: January 22, 2005, 12:17:53 AM »
Plus... you need to completely disregard what's happening in Iraq, the complaints about troop strength, rotation schedules, reservist activation, stop loss, and all that.

China would be a slam dunk.
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« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2005, 12:18:15 AM »
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I'll let you military experts hash this out while I worry about **** that actually worries me.

I think some of you are very ignorant about US military technology and the impact it has on a conventional battleground.


well.  ill listen.  

explain please.

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« Reply #80 on: January 22, 2005, 12:20:56 AM »
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Plus... you need to completely disregard what's happening in Iraq, the complaints about troop strength, rotation schedules, reservist activation, stop loss, and all that.

China would be a slam dunk.


Please....

We could prevent China from invading Taiwan without involving any of our land forces.

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« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2005, 12:22:17 AM »
We are the most powerful country on the planet. We can do pretty much whatever we want.


...but there will be a cost and China would be expensive.
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« Reply #82 on: January 22, 2005, 12:25:53 AM »
I totally agree....it would be ugly and expensive....like WW2 expensive....but the outcome is clear. Kind of like the Spurs-Suns game tonight....long, hard-fought, and ugly, but you know the Spurs are gonna win :)

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« Reply #83 on: January 22, 2005, 01:36:01 AM »
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Please....

We could prevent China from invading Taiwan without involving any of our land forces.


How? our navy? You might be forgetting china's 70+ subs...Modern subs are very dangerous to carrier task forces. Not to mention land based bombers, cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles etc.

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« Reply #84 on: January 22, 2005, 01:39:20 AM »
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I'll let you military experts hash this out while I worry about **** that actually worries me.

I think some of you are very ignorant about US military technology and the impact it has on a conventional battleground.


This is actually one of few places in the world where the possibility of a nuclear WWIII exists. The other I would say pakistan/india but not on topic...

Seems like you think they quit making technology when they made our stuff.

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« Reply #85 on: January 22, 2005, 02:52:35 AM »
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No, but the calls for doom and despair are identical...

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

I wonder will all the new US corporate/action/futuristic movies feature little shops selling fried rat and chinese style advertisins like 1980s movies did with Japanese themes...


blaaaaaaderunner.  you mean blaaaaaaaderunner.
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« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2005, 04:46:53 AM »
One of many, yes. :)

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« Reply #87 on: January 22, 2005, 04:53:00 AM »
gawd i hope not.  bladerunner was a great film...but the haircuts....

i keep flashing to this awful rick springfield video with a similar theme.

tragic.
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« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2005, 05:28:11 AM »
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I'll let you military experts hash this out while I worry about **** that actually worries me.

I think some of you are very ignorant about US military technology and the impact it has on a conventional battleground.


The very same military is unable to protect Iraqis and even themselves from fifty years old technology, used by poorly trained, but determined foes.

Don't expect chinese to only fight the evil satanic USA with their actual military.
They would most likely utilize partisans left behind the lines to disrupt supply and organization.
I would expect it to be a bit easier in China than in Iraq, due to terrain. Wouldn't be as necessary to disguise as civilians to carry out strikes.
In some areas it'd be like in Vietnam, but this time also with an actual army.

I wouldn't be too over confident, since that is the first step to the defeat.

Since Vietnam the USA hasn't been involved in any actually dramatic wars, which the war against chinese forces would be.
The Iraq I and II would been a vacation for many soldiers who participated in the WWII, Korea and even Vietnam.

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« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2005, 06:25:33 AM »
Let's be honest here, an invasion of China, if it ever came to that prolly wouldnt be an Iraq style democratization type limited war where our forces are trying very hard to kill as few as possible...