Originally posted by Raven_2
Again, russians fight for they right to exist in Great Patriotic War/WWII and all other europian countries prefer to became german slaves. *That* is the main difference between us, Fishu.
Yes and after the right to exist was secured, it was time to pick the bonus points.
However I do still wonder what has the baltic republics and Finland have to do with the right to exist... oh, wait, that was before the "great patriotic war".
What was all that about? Surely the baltic states and Finland were a great threat for the smallish Soviet Union.
The baltic states having sticks for weapons and Finland with small amount of planes and tanks, which of many were outdated.
Yeah.. a real threat for the existance.
After the war, liberation of the baltic states and poland, those were quietly annexed into the Soviet Union, without questions asked.
I'm sure the poles loved to join under the red flag, especially after they were recently split between the two neightbours in a common pact.
You talk about the slaves, yet the USSR enslaved a number of countries for two decades.
Most certainly they weren't willingly doing it, which is clearly shown by the number of countries eagerly declaring independency during the collapse of the USSR.
Most of those which weren't part of the USSR before the "great patriotic war" for the right to exist.
There would been no problem, had the USSR done the same as the USA did after the war.
France, Austria, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark.... none of those were annexed by the western allies, like the USSR did to the countries it "liberated". From one devil to the another.
Prior to the WWII the USA had isolationistic politics, while the USSR was annexing the baltic states and having wars with Finland. Who knows what other plans. Many historians thinks that the USSR would've attacked Germany, had they not made the first move.
Talk about fightning for the right to exist.
Apparently Stalin wasn't that much different from Hitler, what comes to the expansionism. It is just convenient to excuse it with a fight for the right to exist. The fear controls people and the big countries are the biggest abusers of this.
Yes, including the United States of America.
Be it the USA, the USSR, China, North Korea... in each country people are fed with fearful scenarios in order to achieve the current political objective.
North Korea is telling its people that the america might attack some day with south koreans and that the democracy is corrupt...
*fear* "what would happen if those evils would have a foothold here!"
The americans were threatened with the tales of communism and the causes for the WWII. Nowadays things are handled with the fear of terrorism, a convenient excuse for some of the not so necessary actions.
Some actions are within reason, but some aren't.
Same is going on in Russia.
The USSR annexed the baltic states with fear.
A small country versus a huge country.. whether to choose a suicide or survival?
Fear... fear... fear... what a convenient excuse.
Later on these actions will be wrote into the history under great titles, which of the people can be proud and some of these will be celebrated. It's always great to refer to these titles and actions later on, when you wan't to defend the cause and/or get support for the cause.
Propaganda can be so childishly simple, yet the people can't see it. Still it will control many of their actions and decisions. Whether to go into a war, whether to change the law...
