Originally posted by Wmaker
There is a book called "Menetetty lapsuus suomalaismiehittäjien vankeudessa 1941-44" written about these workcamps in Karelia by Marja-Leena Mikkola.
http://www.keskipohjanmaa.fi/gen/300404.asp
I say it again. There were no concentration camps. There were work camps where conditions definately weren't good. Where I come from concentration camp means a place were people are "concentrated" and systematically exterminated. There were no such camps in Karelia...they were work camps.
Ok. Work camps fpr "migrants". Politicall corectness has it's roots as deep as in 1940s Finland.
You can name it however you like, it doesn't change the fact that Soviet people were starved there on industrial basis.
Originally posted by Wmaker
Those camps were started by an order from Finnish Army HQ given on 8.7.1941 went like this: "People from eastern Karelia should be treated kindly but carefully. The Soviet population are to be captured and put to the workcamps.".
The Soviet population are to be captured and put to the workcamps[/i]
Ok. So you admit that Finnish politics was national segregation with one part of population ("Soviets", AKA Russians, Ukrainians, Jews and other nationalities) had to be put into "workcamps" (a Finnish newspeak word for concentration camps), and other part, a Finnish (Saam) minority enjoyed some privileges if they wore special armbands (
heimokansalainen, I hope I spelled it correctly, had to transcribe it bach to Latin from Cyrillic).
Sure. Kindly but carefully starved to death. My hat of for kindness of Finnish occupants.
Originally posted by Wmaker
In summer of -42 there were total of 24000 prisoners. The total death toll depending on sources is between 4600-8000. So these Boroda's figures (150000 deaths) are just some soviet propaganda he's picked up from somewhere.
Sorry, I just took 150000 from the cieling, I don't have any exact numbers. With death rate higher then in nazi camps - the rotation of the camps population had to be really fast.
Again: there was nothing about Finnish concentration camps in Soviet propaganda. I learned about this sad facts in late-90s.
Originally posted by Wmaker
This is definately something that there's not much reason to be proud of and it's very unfortunate. The main reason why these people ended up in these camps was because unlike Finland, USSR didn't care s*** about its citizens and didn't even bother to evaquate them so they were left behind the lines. Finland evaquated Karelia when Winter War started and during The Great Attack in the summer of 1944. So there simply weren't any finns for the soviets to execute or send to Siberia.
Are you seriously blaming USSR for starving Soviet people in Finnish camps!? Have you ever heard about common sence? Or this concept is completely new for you?!
Can you imagine the scales of evacuation process in USSR in 1941? Tens of millions of people were evacuated, for you to understand - several dozens of Finlands.
Originally posted by Wmaker
And when you look at the situation in Karelia. Considering the possibilities what these people could be doing behind our lines also had to be taken into account. We had just lost whole Karelia and few other parts Finland in a war that USSR started so do you have to wonder why soviet people might not have been too popular? When Japan started the war against US the japanese living in US were also put into camps.
Beautiful. If US have put Japanese population to internment camps - then Finns can starve Soviet people wholesale.
JFYI: German colonists in USSR were not put into labor camps after 1941. They were moved from Ukraine and Volga region to inner parts of the Union. Mostly after German colonists in Ukraine started to shoot Soviet soldiers in the back.
Originally posted by Wmaker
BUT here comes the MAIN POINT. This reply wasn't written to Boroda. He's already made up his mind and I really couldn't care less what he thinks. Like everyone here has noticed he's way beyond repair. 
Thanks. I am way beyond repair in avoiding Western nationalistic and racist bull****. Same thing about Russian/Soviet nationalistic crap.
Originally posted by Wmaker
My purpose here was to bring some real info about the subject because foreigners might have difficulties finding it.
You see, Boroda not many poeple take you too seriously, huh? Everyone knows you are full of it and as long as it stays that way I couldn't give a rat's a** what you think or say.
It doesn't matter what some clueless ryssä in Moscow thinks.
I don't care what some ôèíèê-øþöêîðîâåö thinks. I just proved the fact that some of you guys denied here in public. Especially for foreigners who sincerely believe that my country has the monopoly on all evil in this world.
Is skyddskår still hireing young nationalists?
I have deepest respect to Finnish people, I enjoy the honor of calling some of you my friends, and I hope we'll meet personally this summer
I admitted many time that white-finnish war 1939-40 was an act of Soviet aggression. But don't you please tell me that you were angels in white armour, fighting dirty bolshevik barbarians.
You can find many documents and different materials about Finnish occupation on the Net.
