Author Topic: Mexican Military on Standby in Response to Minutemen (Read 7570 times)

Tumor · « **Reply #195 on:** April 05, 2005, 06:25:21 PM »

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Originally posted by BBQ_Bob
You know how this is gonna end up, some some inbread redneck donutwood and his buddies are gonna be drinking Lone Star Beer (or Pabst) get drunk and shoot somebody trying to cross the border. Who knows they may even shoot an entire family in the name of protecting us from someone who is willing to do a job that nobody else wants.

...and WHAT the hell, if I may ask, is wrong with PBR??

Airhead · « **Reply #196 on:** April 05, 2005, 07:24:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
I'm not a Euro, so you obvioulsy aren't referring to me.

Geography isn't you strong suit I guess.

You aren't Euro so I'm obviously not refering to you.

Reading comprehension isn't you strong suit I guess.

(shrugs)

ATA · « **Reply #197 on:** April 05, 2005, 07:45:57 PM »

People,mexicans actualy work and they work hard unlike other "brothers",but the idea of spanish becoming second lang. is disturbing.I had to learn eng. why can't they do the same?
(this reply probly off topic,lol)

Curval · « **Reply #198 on:** April 05, 2005, 08:12:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
You aren't Euro so I'm obviously not refering to you.

Reading comprehension isn't you strong suit I guess.

(shrugs)

Gto said this:

Airhead,
Why did you block Curval, since when are the bahamas part of europe?

To which you responded thus:

That started off as a spoof, but after the reaction I got, here and on CheckSix, I can honestly say I don't care for most Euro posters.

(shrug) No biggie, all it means is I took Europe off my places to visit list, and whenever a European tourist asks me directions I'll direct them into the nearest high crime ghetto area.

It's all good.

Now Gto certainly seems to be geographically challenenged, but you answered his direct question about me with an answer about Europe and Europeans.

Dunno..seems to me as if I got "lumped".

I'm like a carrot that slipped past the migrant tomato watcher on duty at the food conyeyor belt down at the processing plant. I got lumped in with all those tomatoes.

genozaur · « **Reply #199 on:** April 05, 2005, 08:17:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Gto said this:

Airhead,
Why did you block Curval, since when are the bahamas part of europe?

To which you responded thus:

That started off as a spoof, but after the reaction I got, here and on CheckSix, I can honestly say I don't care for most Euro posters.

(shrug) No biggie, all it means is I took Europe off my places to visit list, and whenever a European tourist asks me directions I'll direct them into the nearest high crime ghetto area.

It's all good.

Now Gto certainly seems to be geographically challenenged, but you answered his direct question about me with an answer about Europe and Europeans.

Dunno..seems to me as if I got "lumped".

I'm like a carrot that slipped past the migrant tomato watcher on duty at the food conyeyor belt down at the processing plant. I got lumped in with all those tomatoes.

You deny that you are red ?

genozaur · « **Reply #200 on:** April 05, 2005, 08:28:51 PM »

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Originally posted by ATA
People,mexicans actualy work and they work hard unlike other "brothers",but the idea of spanish becoming second lang. is disturbing.I had to learn eng. why can't they do the same?
(this reply probly off topic,lol)

Because your wise professors of English are so lazy that they haven't reformed the spelling for more than a millenium.

I can do it in two months, but I won't.

But don't worry, your Spanish-speaking grandchildren will have to learn Chinese anyway.

Unless the USA conclude the confederation treaty with Russia for joint exploitation of Alaska.

Steve · « **Reply #201 on:** April 05, 2005, 08:31:14 PM »

That rifle looks like a G3 to me.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #202 on:** April 05, 2005, 08:48:55 PM »

I know geography fine. I can point right to the Bahamas on a map!

ATA · « **Reply #203 on:** April 05, 2005, 11:07:34 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I know geography fine. I can point right to the Bahamas on a map!

Too bad 90% don't even know how many states in USA

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #204 on:** April 06, 2005, 12:02:52 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
But Steve, they are not criminals, they just want to work....the real criminals are the people who hire them. Just like drug dealers are not criminals ...the who people buy drugs are.

It's complete racism to want to seal the border like Mexico seals it's southern border.

Comparing an illegal alien that is here in search of work to a drug dealer is idiotic but then it's kind of the knee jerk response one expects of you.

ack-ack

NUKE · « **Reply #205 on:** April 06, 2005, 12:18:37 AM »

The point being the logic. People here are saying it's not the illegal aliens fault that they decide to knowingly break the law.....instead it's perfectly okay for them to break the law, because people in the US are hiring them.

The point is, they are breaking the law regardless of their reasons or motivations.

Pretty simple.

Rolex · « **Reply #206 on:** April 06, 2005, 01:46:08 AM »

Who said it was okay for them to break the law? That is not "pretty simple" - that's just being simple minded.

Supply and demand, man. As a start, no demand or jobs will make the flow a trickle.

You want simple and fast? Try this: Start seizing assets then deporting the employers and see how fast it stops. The employers should lose their US citizenship. They are no more worthy of citizenship than the illegal immigrants are.

NUKE · « **Reply #207 on:** April 06, 2005, 02:00:44 AM »

Rolex, I am taking the extreme view because I know that there are people that do not want to put any blame at all on illegal imigrants whatsoever.

People like President Fox, who refuse to aknowlege that the illegals are even breaking the law. The Mexican government wants the US to make all the illegals legal and then open our border. The Mexican government also sealed their southern border.

I'm saying this: Any illegal caught in the US should be thrown out. Enforce the laws.

No illegal should be getting schooling or free medical care. Screw them all.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #208 on:** April 06, 2005, 02:21:32 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
ren... yu are probly kidding but... cheap labor is not the way to keep farm prices down... there is no cheap way to produce food when you depend on labor.

Yes, lazs2, I'm just joshing folks. It's amazing that there are web sites and blogs dedicated to these discussions/debates yet we just gotta move em to the O'Club to go over and over em, ad nauseum. I'm an old phuart who's been around a while so most of this isnt new. However, I really enjoy talking planes, combat tactics, and aviation related things much more than the Mexican issue.

I guess I'd be safe in asking the following:
Are there illegal Mexicans living and working in your town/city?
Are they taking work and food from your mouths?
Is their miserable pay taking money out of your pocket?
Is our Govt really going to do anything about it?
Does our Govt really want to do anything about it?
Can you do anything about it?
Can you personally change the way our Govt is handling it?

Ever since I was in the Military, way back when we were in a war we wouldn't win and didn't, I've found the Govt really likes it when people talk about things. It has absolutely no value other than you made your point but nothing will change. But at least, you feel good because this being America you can say. "it's all messed up" and no one will shoot you. Will it get fixed? Nope. Does it matter if the Reps or Dems are in office? Nope. The only thing that changes with the parties the RATE that you lose your money not the amount.

So most young American citizens are here making their views known and calling people all kinds of names and nothing will come of it other than some folks may walk away saying to themselves, "boy, that culero, or steve or whoever, sure is a big Aho".

IMHO this is a game and this game has brought people together from all parts of the world to share the comradere of the game. When folks start spewing crap about thier thoughts on what should be done about political garbage, arguments and hurt feelings end up as the result its time to take that BS to the BLOGs and Websites where like aho's, everyone has an opinion and they are gonna make sure you accept theirs or you just an aho. I'd rather not talk about that crap and just call you "friend".

I, myself, would rather just get up in the MA and shoot everyone down. Its a heckovalot more fun!

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Ren
The Damned

Lazerus · « **Reply #209 on:** April 06, 2005, 02:28:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Comparing an illegal alien that is here in search of work to a drug dealer is idiotic but then it's kind of the knee jerk response one expects of you.

ack-ack

I actually thought of the same comparison two nights ago when culero started in on his racist/bigot attack based on the absurd premis that the cause of the problem in question laid mostly on the employers that were willing to break the law and hire the illegals, and that any thoughts of recrimination on the illegals was a sure sign of a deep seated hatred(racism) of Mexicans, or Latin Americans in general.

The correlation between drug smugglers and resident buyers, and illegal immigrants and resident employers, is entirely relevant, especially as presented by culero and those that support his argument.

In both cases there are people that enter this country illegaly and commit acts that are illegal once they are here. In both cases there are people that live in this country that support those illegal actions with illegal actions of their own. All four groups are wrong. The accusation of bigotry/racism is nothing but a classic example of the modern practice of arguing by labeling the party that disagrees with you with an adjective that elicits emotional reactions from those that are judging the debate. That expectation of emotion, and the loaded wording of the label, is used to derail the original debate. Logical thought is lost, if it was ever there to begin with.

Culero, it could just as easily be said that you are bigoted/racist towards the people that hire those illegals because you blame them instead of the illegals. Blame is not the issue. The issue is the suffocation that our national economy is suffering because of the illegal immigrants crossing over from Mexico. The issue is the lack of concern by our politicians. The issue is the concerted effort by old Senior Fox to stonewall any effort made to curb the illegal infiltration. The issue is the billions of dollars that are funneled out of the US to Mexico every year by these illegals. The issue is the billions of dollars of taxpayers money that is lost in government funded programs to support the illegals' communities that they have set up in our country. The issue is the unknown (to me at least) amount of money spent arresting, putting to trial, and jailing of illegals.

The root of the problem? The cause of it all??......We let it happen. The only way to stop it now is to cut the influx off as abruptly as we can. Cut off the supply of illegal employers as abruptly as we can. Cut off the illegal federal funding as abruptly as we can.