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« Reply #225 on: April 06, 2005, 07:42:36 AM »
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People,mexicans actualy work and they work hard unlike other "brothers",but the idea of spanish becoming second lang. is disturbing.I had to learn eng. why can't they do the same?
(this reply probly off topic,lol)


There is a pretty good reason to learn spanish in US: spanish speakers in US, Mexico, Central and South America are customers or potential customers. If you want to do bussiness with them, you better learn their language. Certainly, speaking spanish and english correctly is or will be a very important factor for young people looking for a job in US. Is just a reason of market.

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« Reply #226 on: April 06, 2005, 07:52:10 AM »
I guess I'm a bigot too.

Personally I think ALL the illegals should be deported and anyone hiring them should be fined or put in jail.

I also think that all you guys that are supporting the illegals are retards.

There is nothing you can say that could make it "OK" for them to be here.
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« Reply #227 on: April 06, 2005, 08:04:33 AM »
Slight hijack:

Remember the Cheech & Chong movie when Cheech was singing his "Mexican American Song"?

"Mexican Americans
Don't like to get up early
In the morning
But they have to
So they do it real slooooooww.

Mexican Americans
They go to night school
And take Spanish
And get a Beeeeeeeee

Then Chong says he's been working on a similar song which went:

Beaners
Beaners
.......Eat Beans

Beaners
Beaners
.......Will kick you in the face

lol

The look on Cheech's face was priceless.

Funny stuff.  But Beaner is DEFIANTELY a degrogatory term for Airhead's people.
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« Reply #228 on: April 06, 2005, 08:08:14 AM »
ren... I am probly your age.   I have no love of government either.  I don't really want to see troops at the border.  I don't think that would solve the problem.

I have as much disdain for the parties as you do but feel that there are minor differences (democrats are more socialist and womanly for instance).  They all spend their time taking as many of my rights away as possible and extorting as much money from me as possible but..

I am cynical enough and been around enough to know that they are crisis driven.  If enough people percieve a crisis and have a solution in mind... they will act like it is the greatest idea in the world and push it through with huge amounts od publicity... especially if no voting group is affected adversly.

Jail employers... You asked how the low wages affedted me,,, How illegals affected me..Holden answered for me... I was in construction...the wages have dropped 40% or more because of illegals.

I believe that talk sometimes helps... you claim it makes us toadies of the government... I don't really see why you are even in the thread then?  This must be an extremely important thing to you to make yourself into a toady of the government...  

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« Reply #229 on: April 06, 2005, 08:30:55 AM »
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again..im about to grow my own lettuce...


CLOSE THE FRIKN BORDER


Akak....do you kwno what 187 is about?...i voted yes....F them..YOU ARE ILLEGAL..im not paying crap for you..Yopu want a drivers license?..lmfao..Come down to the DMV..in MEXICO


They defnlty take jobs here....CONSTRUCTION is huge!!!!...Id rather pay  soem guy  12$ then 20$ to hang drywall..thats for sure


you defnlty need to bust employers too..but poloticians are crap..most are

SO..Minutemen..SALUTE....Kik there azzzes down there
They don't take any jobs, the jobs are given to them.

As for illegal labor, the problem isn't the supply, it's the demand.

Of course our government attacks the problem in the most expensive and backward way. Much like the war on the drug supply.

As long as there is a demand for illegal labor, there will be a supply of illegal laborers.

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« Reply #230 on: April 06, 2005, 08:37:55 AM »
yep... that is exactly it... trying to plug holes in the sieve we have for a border is a huge waste of resources when everyone is simply looking the other way and hiring a roofing contractor with a crew of 20 mexican illegals to do the roof on their house... even tho they are getting a substandard job.... it's cheaper.

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« Reply #231 on: April 06, 2005, 11:22:49 AM »
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And Nuke wonders why he's called a bigot...







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AKAK, should I post what you were saying to me before I responded? Let's see, past few nights you've been telling everyone that I'm a bigot and that I burn crosses and have a white robe.

You really are pretty sad. You keep calling me a racist for absolutely no reason, then finnally I decide to call you a beaner in response ( is that racsist?? I eat beans).

AKAK, why do you insist on calling me a bigot? Can you point to one thing I ever sai that woould be considered racist?

Laz, going after employers would help a lot, but so would kicking out every single illegal caught in the country. Every family, kid, granny......anyone who is not legally here could easily be thrown out, but nobody enforces the laws.

Don't give illegals drivers licenses or let their kids go to school....and deport them  as soon as they are found.

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« Reply #232 on: April 06, 2005, 11:27:34 AM »
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Yeah, seeing that its pretty damn absurd to see him threatening to "complain to HTC" about someone calling him a bigot, eh?

culero (just saying)


what he didn't tell you was that he had been provoking me all night and the other night by telling everyone I'm a bigot,  burn crosses and wear a white robe. In fact, he has said that many times.....it's his standard attack against me.

All I have ever said is that I want all illegals thrown out of the country......and he thinks that's racist.

And I was filming the whole thing in case AKAK thinks he can complian and try to come off as the victim.

Yeah, I take EXTREME offense to being called a bigot. I take extreme offense to what AKAK was saying on channel 200.
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« Reply #233 on: April 06, 2005, 11:28:42 AM »
Thanks Storch && Culero

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« Reply #234 on: April 06, 2005, 11:32:22 AM »
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Don't give illegals drivers licenses or let their kids go to school....and deport them  as soon as they are found.


Imagine there is some countries where the situation is worse !
They even give the kid their nationality when 18.

rolleye emoticon here.


Btw I've nothing against ,to change this we have to change our constitution I think.

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« Reply #235 on: April 06, 2005, 11:33:55 AM »
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There is a pretty good reason to learn spanish in US: spanish speakers in US, Mexico, Central and South America are customers or potential customers. If you want to do bussiness with them, you better learn their language. Certainly, speaking spanish and english correctly is or will be a very important factor for young people looking for a job in US. Is just a reason of market.

True,we gonna have to learn chinese as well:lol
Don't worry about mexicans,they take jobs that nobody would take,they don't take somebodys money they work for the money.
Worry about welfare people........and please don't call me racist

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« Reply #236 on: April 06, 2005, 12:08:48 PM »
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Imagine there is some countries where the situation is worse !
They even give the kid their nationality when 18.

rolleye emoticon here.


Btw I've nothing against ,to change this we have to change our constitution I think.


How would you like at least 20 million people living in your country who do not pay taxes, drain the healthcare system and get taxpayer benifits?

In Arizona alone, 500,000 illegals were caught just last year. That's only the one's that were caught, probably most at the border. Many times that number liver here and nobody really does anything about it.

And going after employers will not solve the problem, but would be a big help. The easiest way to get rid of them is to throw them out any time they are identified......traffic tickets, schools, emergency rooms. Just start weeding them out every day.

Going after employers might be expensive and require investigations and resources. Catching them in their every day lives would be easie, imo.

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« Reply #237 on: April 06, 2005, 12:15:58 PM »
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Don't worry about mexicans,they take jobs that nobody would take,they don't take somebodys money they work for the money.


 wrong. Illegals have taken over labor jobs by working for dirt cheap, which  alters the pay scale for legal workers.

They virtually have locked up construction labor jobs.....jobs that paid descent money to hard-working legal citizens are now taken by illegals who work for nothing and don't pay taxes. It works that way for any job they take. They drive wages down.

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« Reply #238 on: April 06, 2005, 01:04:42 PM »
Here is a more realistic reason to deport ilegals - Our Health.

I personaly avoid as many illegals as I can identify becuase I'm not interested in getting TB, Hepititus, or what ever they are carrying because of the environment they are coming from.

They are draining our health care services becuse of some very nasty diseases they get diagnosed with while going in for routine booboos, or to get pre natal checks, or while having the kids looked at, or they got hurt on that roofing or construction job. California has closed close to 70 emrgency rooms and hospitels due to illegals draining the services here.  It's funny how TB has been cropping up in our hospitels and infecting our citizens who go in for a routine visit. Some of them don't leave alive because of it.

Diasease don't care if you are pro illegal or agaisnt the illegals or a bigot or secretly want the US reconqesta'd. It's an equal opportunity killer. The media bless their evil littel hearts is keeping this one very quiet. So how many innocent U.S. citizens you guys want dead?

FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
Is CDC covering up skyrocketing TB rate?
Insiders say center trying to 'cook the books,' 'spin the numbers'

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WASHINGTON – The Centers for Disease Control is trying to "cook the books" and "spin the numbers" in a new report that downplays the spread of tuberculosis in the U.S., insiders within the Atlanta-based U.S. agency tell the premium, online intelligence newsletter Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

The CDC released a report today portraying a serious TB threat worldwide and a declining disease rate within the U.S. But the CDC, say insiders, is not coming clean on the increasing domestic threat, largely posed by dramatic population increases in recent years by illegal immigrants.


More than one-third of the global population is infected with the tuberculosis bacterium, and TB disease remains one of the world's leading causes of disease and death, the CDC says. Each year, 8 million people become ill with TB, and 2 million people die from the disease.

In fact, next Thursday, March 24, is World TB Day, marking the date in 1882 that scientist Robert Koch announced his discovery of the TB bacterium. The World Health Organization now uses the annual day as an international call to action against the disease.

The CDC report emphasized the latest national surveillance data show a significant, but slowing, decline in the case rate of TB. In 2004, a total of 14,511 TB cases were reported in the U.S. The overall TB case rate – 4.9 per 100,000 persons – was the lowest rate ever recorded since reporting began in 1953. However, the decline in the case rate from 2003 to 2004 was one of the smallest in more than a decade (3.3 percent compared with an average of 6.8 percent per year), the CDC acknowledged.

The agency also said that "despite the nationwide downward trend, TB continues to exact a severe toll on many U.S. communities. Seven states now bear more than half the total burden of TB disease in the U.S. California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and Texas account for 59.9 percent of the national case total. The toll continues to be greatest among minority and foreign-born individuals, who consistently have higher rates of TB disease.

But CDC sources say the report is a reflection of "political correctness" inside the agency – a political effort to whitewash what some health officials see as an alarming new threat of TB's spread largely by illegal foreign immigrants.

"When you acknowledge, as the CDC has, that one-third of the world's population is carrying this bacterium and you admit that we have some 20 million foreigners inside this country largely unaccounted for, you begin to understand the threat," said one G2 Bulletin source. "It's serious. And the facts are being withheld from the American people because of political correctness toward the question of illegal immigration."

The CDC does offer some interesting statistics in its report:

In 2004, minority populations had rates of TB significantly higher than the overall U.S. average. The 2004 TB case rate among Asians was 20 times higher than that among whites (26.9/100,000 and 1.3/100,000, respectively), while blacks (11.1/100,000) and Hispanics (10.1/100,000) each had rates eight times higher than whites.
In 2004, for the first time, there were more cases of TB among Hispanics than any other ethnic group. However, the TB rate among Hispanics decreased slightly from 10.3 in 2003 to 10.1 in 2004. This divergent trend was the result of a 3.6 percent increase in the U.S. Hispanic population between 2003 and 2004.
The TB rate among foreign-born individuals (22.5/100,000) was nearly nine times the rate among persons born in the United States (2.6/100,000). Individuals born outside the United States accounted for more than half (7,701 cases, or 53.7 percent) of all new TB cases in 2004.
While the TB rate among U.S-born persons has declined 64.6 percent over the past 12 years, the rate among foreign-born persons has declined only 33.9 percent.
Ninety-five percent of Asians reported to have TB in the U.S. in 2004 were foreign-born. Foreign-born individuals also accounted for the majority – 74 percent – of cases among Hispanics in the U.S. Globally, Asia accounts for the largest number of TB cases. The impact of TB on Mexico is also worrisome because many Hispanics diagnosed with TB in the U.S. were born in that country.

"Even though preventable and treatable, TB remains a serious airborne disease – one with the ability to adapt, grow stronger, and travel from one country to another as easily as people do," said the report. "The health threat must continue to be taken seriously, both here in the U.S. and abroad."

The CDC also acknowledged the border problems by suggesting the agency was attempting to address them by strengthening "global partnerships to address TB among populations hardest-hit by the disease."

"These efforts include improving overseas screening for immigrants and refugees, and testing recent arrivals from high-incidence countries for latent TB infection," the report said. "CDC is also improving the notification system that alerts local health departments about the arrival of immigrants who are known or believed to have TB, and collaborating with public health teams in Mexico to improve TB control among those who frequently cross the U.S.-Mexico border."

Last week, a report in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons blew the whistle on the way illegal immigration is threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system.

"The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen."

According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system.

In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease."
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« Reply #239 on: April 06, 2005, 02:19:16 PM »
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AKAK, should I post what you were saying to me before I responded? Let's see, past few nights you've been telling everyone that I'm a bigot and that I burn crosses and have a white robe.



Hmmm...you still wonder why I call you a bigot and a cross burner?  And here I thought you had a brain but like all bigots, you don't.

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You really are pretty sad. You keep calling me a racist for absolutely no reason, then finnally I decide to call you a beaner in response ( is that racsist?? I eat beans).


See the above comments and then take a look at the screenshot of your comments in the MA.  And still you wonder why I call you a bigot?  

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AKAK, why do you insist on calling me a bigot? Can you point to one thing I ever sai that woould be considered racist?




Again, you still wonder why I call you bigot?   You're really not all that bright are you?  


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