Author Topic: Tough Gun Laws (Read 1401 times)

Gunslinger · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2005, 01:09:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
This is over the top. Misdemeanors should not be included.

agreed but it falls under the "violent crime" section either way. It's pretty stupid that one Fup as a young kid would carry with you the rest of your life AND that there's no avenue of appeal.

Curval · « **Reply #16 on:** May 26, 2005, 01:09:17 PM »

Policeman: Ahhh I see you have gunned down your family and shot a couple of innocent bystanders. Good thing we have tough gun laws...off you go to jail.

Good thing we have gun laws that REALLY work.

beet1e · « **Reply #17 on:** May 26, 2005, 01:18:49 PM »

ah - the bull neck brute from Fremont isn't really ignoring me - he's just in Peekaboo mode!

John9001 - Maybe you were talking to someone else. If not...

... I take it you've never been out of the US, or you would know that it isn't 911 in other countries. Here, it's 999. You might also understand the concept of an unarmed society had you been to one. Get Lazs to help you with that. As he once put it, when visiting a bar in a seedy area of London, he felt as threatened as he might have done at a Church bingo night.

Kind regards,
Beet (whose last contact with the police was when neighbours got burgled in 1986)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** May 26, 2005, 01:43:10 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
beetle.. this is a better kind of gun control... it keeps the guns out of the hands of the felonious criminals... and...

women beaters..

lazs

Speaking of which, been to court Beet1e ?

GreenCloud · « **Reply #19 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:09:02 PM »

ENGLISH WOMEN DIES A VICTIM

A 105-Year-Old British woman, terrorized by burglars breaking into her home four times in an 18-month period, has died a perpetual victim,

Proving again..the FAILURE of Englands gun ban to protect law-abiding citizens

"Evening Standard"

Ya beatle.....I guess women can have there "man" defend them...BAHH..women can defend themselves just fine...right?

hahah get it.."beatle"

its good you cant fly in MA anymore...you would get beat like a red headed ..errrrrrrrr... step child

banana; )

GreenCloud · « **Reply #20 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:10:24 PM »

the ladies name is Amelia Whale...

what a BS way to die..live thru both WW's ..and then die to soem thug scum

lazs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:27:44 PM »

raider... you haven't thought this through... you are saying women beaters and potential road ragers need to get to work? don't drunk's need to get to work too? how bout uninsured? how bout those with a couple dozen tickets?

I just don't get you guys rerasoning... what is the point of locking someone up to pay their debt to society if when they are "released" they are not given their rights back? If you don't trust em then why release em?

Rather than figure out who or who doesn't have the potential for violence... why not just make severe penalties for those who do commit unwaranted violence.

Is taking away a woman beaters right to "legaly" own a firearm more of a deterent than say a mandatory 20 year jail sentance?

and raider... it is probly true that women beaters have a higher incidence of murdering women but... they will do it with or without a gun... would you rather be streangled stabbed or beat to death? Seems jail is better for the rest of us.

lazs

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:32:21 PM »

Raider179
A law abidng citizen loses his gun rights every time some ******* liberal politician puts a gun ban law in place like the Cali bull**** "unsafe guns" Ban. Or the .50 cal rifle ban or the assault weapon ban.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:33:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
Well if you can't keep your hands off your wife or girlfriend chances are pretty good you aren't too stable. No problems with domestic violence people losing their rights. Misdemeanor besides DV or restraining orders without a hearing I would agree is over the top.

Raider,
I do not have a problem with convicted wife beater or stalkers ETC not having the right, but you can get a restraining order without any kind of conviction to go with it.

Curval · « **Reply #24 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:36:33 PM »

I don't understand the woman beating and gun connection.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:36:51 PM »

Beetle
I took you off ignore so I could see your pathetic defense.

You are the brute.

I have never in my life hit a women, nor willl I ever. Scum bags like you make me sick. you are a worm, you pushing your GF down and braking her arm is just more proof of it.

You belong in a double wide somewere with the rest of the wife beaters.

You are such a sad pile of dog feces I find it hard to even laugh at you.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #26 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:40:14 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Raider,
I do not have a problem with convicted wife beater or stalkers ETC not having the right, but you can get a restraining order without any kind of conviction to go with it.

I know a guy whos wife came home late at night drunk and snagged their kid. She came back and my buddy held her by the wrist to keep from leaving drunk with their child. She subsequently got a bruise on her wrist and called the cops. My friend was arrested for assault/domestic violence. He repeatedly told the cops to check his wife's BAC and they refused saying it was irrelevent.

The irony of the whole situation was they put the handcuffs on so tight he had bloody/bruised wrists for a week.

Now if convicted my buddy who did nothing wrong but keep his wife from leaving with their kid drunk, wont be eligible for firearm owndership.

Not all Domestic dispute charges are fair.

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 26, 2005, 02:41:29 PM »

curval... there really is none except for the most tenuous. It is simply busybody feel good stuff compounded by an ignorance of firearms.

The premise being that any kind of violence (especialy against the weaker sex) makes you more prone to shooting people.

lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #28 on:** May 26, 2005, 03:44:17 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I have never in my life hit a women, nor willl I ever.

Neither have I. If I may just mention the 4 letter F word which I know you have trouble with - FACT. On a point of FACT, I have no criminal record, will not be getting one any time soon, and even spent last weekend with Tomato, who was very happy to see me.

Sometimes you need to look at the FACTS properly, and understand that every story has 2 sides, and also understand human (female) behaviour - granted, that can be hard. Geez, it scares me to think that you were once thinking of being a cop, based on your apparent limited mental faculties. As for understanding women, I can see that you don't get much practice. Still, that's hardly surprising for someone who looks like you.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 26, 2005, 03:46:24 PM »

What ever wife beater.

All scum bags claim they are innocent.

Your no different.

LOL I love your nice little personal attack, like your some kind of prize.

If she went back to you, she is a fool and deserves what she gets and if she is a liar and you still see her you are clearly the fool you act like here.

Not suprising either way.

Your still a scumbag.