Does this bring back memories???????

[jigsaw]

Something I've had saved for just such an occasion....


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Date: 05-13-95 (05:25)             Number: 19617
From: WARDOG                       Refer#: NONE
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Subj: something I dug up             Conf: (14) Sev
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Does this sound like Cland to you?? I hope the author of this doesn't mind.
I think it's a classic.


                               COBRA 2


 (click)"AhhhCobraLeaderthisisCobra2.. .CobraLeaderthisisCobra2...Do youread,
 Over."(click)

 (click)"AhhhRojCobra2...thisisCobraLe aderGoAhead."(click)

 (click)"CobraLeader,Cobra2...Vis u WAY up ahead ther, at HI alt., safe &
sound and on ur way home. Have damage report,Over."(click)

 (click)"AhhhRojCobra2...GoAheadDamage Report."(click)

 (click)"RogerCobraLeader...Cobra 3 & 4 went down in flames over target, no
 chutes observed, assumed kiltinakshun,Over."(click)

 (click)"AhhhRojCobra2...ur condition?Over."(click)

 (click)"RogerCobraLeader...thx 4 askin...Cobra2is low'n slow...
overenematerritory...outaWEP. ..outaAMMO...smokin'...5%oil...10%gas...
 flapstuckdown...gearstuckup.. .when I try to gain speed she shakes violently
...when I slow any she stalls...ruddershotaway...eng inecuttingout...
 AhhhcouldIgetsomehepCobraLead er???Over."(click)

 (click)"AhhhRojCobra2...mustconsiders ituation...hanginthere...
 thinkin'boutitOver."(click)

 (click)"RogerCobraLeader...windscreen coveredwithoilnow...engineabl aze...
 solesofboots...sohot,smokin'(cough,hack,kaff)...3..Ki's..onmy6!...
HEP!!."(click)

 (click)"AhhhRojCobra2...unnerstan'ugottalittleprobthere...mysituationbadtoo
 ...only40%gas...downto70%AMMO...gottahangnailthat'sabsolutelykillin'me...
 an'mostimportant...I'mlate4HappyHouratDeO.Club...butkeepmeinformedofprogress
 (orlackofit)Over(click)." "(click)err...mebbe u shud BAIL???Over."(click)

 (click)"DonchathinkIalredytriedtaBAIL???yadumbSonOfABi...err, SIR!...canopy
 shotup...won'trelease...can'tbail...TAKIN'HITS,NOW!!!...HAIRONFIRE!!!...
 mus'...get...tourniquet...on...leg...aaaaaaaarrrrrghhh...ggrrrrgggggg...unh."
 (click)

 (click)"So...Lemmegetthisstraight,Cobra2...wotchersayin'is...it'sOKtotake
 yerbes'babe,CindyLou...totheO.Clubtonite...an'smashtheglassbottomofyerstein
 ...?...Over."(click)

(SILENCE)

 (click)"Cobra2?...Cobra2?...helloooooooooo?...I hope u know, MISTER, that
 failing to return my call is an act of INSUBORDINATION an' when I tell the CO
 about this...He gonna hand u yer head on a plate !?!"(click)

(SILENCE)

 (click)"Cobra2?..........................dwe eb."(click)


... That was Zen, This is Tao...

[Brooke]

Originally posted by RDSaustinTX
Shoot, that's fine art.
 
Anybody have a screen shot of the ORIGINAL (pre-DOS) Air Warrior???
 
 It would be black & white, on a little Macintosh screen. Past a couple hundred yards, the planes became little inverted tees. 12 was the maximum frame rate.
 
$12/HOUR

 
That was 1988. Half the AH community wasn't born yet...
 
Mullah

Holy crap.  Mullah . . . now there's another name from the ancient days.

[Heater]

Yep,

I remember the Amiga 500 & AW, with the models you could load up and change the shading to have an transparent effect....  i.e. look thru the bottom & head rest by changing the color of every other pixel to transparent, the best connect I could get was 1200 baud……

Damn Some of us are getting old

[mussie]

I had an 1040STFM its still under the house somewhere with a blown power pack.

Its a Pitty that I did not known about AW back then...

I suppose that it would not have worked from here in OZ

Then there is the fact that It would have been an international call ontop of all the other charges....  

So I suppose its a good thing eh?

Was the community different in those days ?

[Alky]

Anyone got any of Joker's ramblings saved? That guy made me buy more keyboards!!!!!!
This community wouldn't know what to do with the likes of him

[Brooke]

Originally posted by mussie
Was the community different in those days ?

Air Warrior in its early days had a much smaller group of players than does Aces High (probably about 1/10th as many).  Because it was not well known and was expensive ($12/hour or something like that, going down to $6/hour in the early 90's), it drew folks who were at the more extreme end of devotion to WWII aviation and to the game community, and there weren't as many folks with only tepid interest.  Also, this was new to us back then -- it was the world's first multiplayer on-line air-combat sim.  Folks who had dreamed of WWII air combat their whole lives had nothing until this came out.  It was a BIG deal to us.

Aces High is a much better simulation than Air Warrior was.  This is only natural, as technology marches on.  Aces High also has the sorts of people who played Air Warrior in the early days -- in fact, it has some of the same people who played Air Warrior in the early days.  It was built by guys who were big-time Air Warrior enthusiasts in the early days.  It also has a newer crop of enthusiasts, just as devoted to WWII aviation and to the gaming community.  It also has a large number of people who are less enthusiastically involved whose only involvement is furballing in the main arena.  That is OK -- a larger player base is good, in my opinion -- as long as there are enough folks who are really into the game.  Those are the folks who make it something special, and Aces High does have them.

[BTW]

Good post, Brooke. AW was my first brush with virtual reality. I'm still not sure if is a good thing...
Back then I was amazed to be chatting realtime with someone in another country.

Legends of Kesmai was my second brush with virtual reality. I think I went nuts after that

[DrDea]

[Tails]

It became such a nice sim, too...until EA bought it and dropped a safe on it.

[DrDea]

I guess being smaller it just had a kick bellybutton community.Everyone pretty much knew the people around them.It was a good time for flight sims.

[DrDea]

[Bullethead]

mussie said:

I suppose that it would not have worked from here in OZ

Then there is the fact that It would have been an international call ontop of all the other charges....

IIRC, there was a separate host down in Oz.  The Euros, however, played on the main US host with the rest of us.  The international contingent then was probably a smaller percentage than it is today, but not by much.  We had whole squads of Germans, Finns, Brits, etc.

Was the community different in those days ?

It was so different back then that it's impossible to call it the same community now.  It's like the difference between the 1st miners' 1849 shantytown and today's Denver metropolis.  Law, order, civilization, and political correctness have come to the internet (Hell, even the term "internet" is "new"), and the old days of the Wild Frontier, with its cast of self-reliant, pioneering rakehells, is a distant memory.

Like Brooke said, the community was MUCH smaller.  This was not only because the game was expensive, but back then not many people had their own computers anyway.  We didn't even call them PCs yet.  And of this small population, only a few of them had even heard of going "online", and even less knew how to do it, fewer still even owned a modem, and an extremely small number of those actually had the balls to do more than send the occasional email.  And the old AW community was made up of the tiny fraction of those people who were so fanatically devoted to WW2 air combat that they'd pay ungodly amounts to play AW.

It was a totally different breed of player.  No kids AT ALL, because only somebody with a decent job could afford a), the computer, b) the "online service", and c) AW.  And you had to be so into WW2 aviation that the primitive nature of early AW could entrance you.  Most such people were reclusive, hard-drinking, intelligent geeks (ONLY geeks had computers), full of repressed resentment at being shunned by mankind all their lives, and suddenly they were able to compete in a "sport" like they'd never been able to before.  So they devoted themselves to absolute mastery of ACM with the single-mindedness usual to such people, taking deaths in the game as seriously as if they were real.  

Then the HATE did flow in prodigious quantities.  Damn near every post and ch1 message was dripping with profanity and included what today would be called "personal attacks".  But because the participants were older and well-educated, they were such witty and imaginative cut-downs that I saved a lot of them as works of art.  Still, they were delivered with deadly seriousness, and responded to in kind, and then duels would be fought and honor defended, and much smack talked afterwards, leading to more "personal attacks" and duels.  And nobody whined about being called names, or his mother's morals assailed, because that was just the way things were.  You were either a big boy and stayed in the game or you went home to momma.  You for damn sure didn't call for somebody to be banned because he insulted you.

And Kesmai was just as Hateful as the players.  When somebody had a problem with the game, they wrote to the Kesmai reps the same way they did to other players, and the Kesmoids responded in kind.  Kesmai played the Devil's part of creating a Hell, cruelly and arbitrarily changing things just to piss the players off, and laughing at them because Kesmai knew the players were hopeless addicts.

Because the community was small, everybody knew everybody.  And because only a few dozen folks could fly in the arena at once, you always knew everybody on the other side and it was quite possible to hunt specific people all night because there wasn't room to hide.  Most players spent lots of time carrying on vendettas with particularly Hated Enemas and their squads, and the biggest thrill to any player was making somebody else log off and throw his joystick against the wall in total ego meltdown.  But the ultimate bliss was to publicly bully somebody over weeks or months to the point where he actually cancelled his account.  Then, when he posted that up, you'd just reply with "A kill has been recorded" and everybody watching would give you a high 5.

Simply put, every single one of us was an avid griefer, before that term existed, and Kesmai enjoyed watching us grief each other to the point of insanity, and gave us nudges in that direction if they thought we weren't doing enough on our own.  Then we'd all get snot-slinging drunk together at the Con like we were the best of friends, because this HATE-filled, vitriolic Hell was FUN!  

Geez, how times have changed.  Everything we did for entertainment back in the day is now illegal, and I still find it hard to fathom how many people have such thin skins that they can't LOVE that sort of environment.  No, now we have the bad-word filter, TOS agreements, killshooter, can't have swastikas, etc.  Gamers today call folks like us old farts "griefers" and universally regard us as bad for gaming communities, being totally ignorant of the fact that it was us "griefers" who CREATED the first online gaming communities.

Oh well, hopefully a new frontier will open up someday.  Things have gotten way too civilized around here.

[Heater]

Hey Brooke, I was Digging thru the old stuff and came across these..






for you young pups, they were written by the players for the players & published by KESMAI,

Anyone remember
Blue Baron,
Da SLoth,
Anvil,
Fencer,
Mongooes,
Blood&Guts,
Death Wish,
Black Cat,
Nose Art,

Just to name a few......

Damn I am getting old

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Heater

Anyone remember
Blue Baron,
Da SLoth,
Anvil,
Fencer,
Mongooes,
Blood&Guts,
Death Wish,
Black Cat,
Nose Art,

Just to name a few......

Damn I am getting old

And Twisted and Grey Eagle, and of course Scavenger.

[humble]

Originally posted by Tails
Aaah...the A-26, the B-25, the jeep... JEEP! HiTech, give us a JEEEEEEEEP!

A jeep with a 57mm recoiless rifle would be kind of sweet:D