P38 has been Porked

[Silat]

Originally posted by 38ruk
The low speed flight characteristics have definetly changed bug , if you aren't noticing ANYTHING, they your keeping it fast . The just above stall , full flap turn fight is a thing of the past with this new patch . Right or wrong , i cant say , ive never flown a real 38.

Slow speed character is the pork.. Its not right.
But if that is what HT wants then that is what we get to play with:(

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Morpheus
Pyro, I have films of me literally falling out of the sky from 10k+ right on down into the deck. No amount of engine, rudder, aliron or elevator input makes a difference for the vast majority of these flat spins. Throtling 1 engine up or down, or both to slow the spin makes no difference either. It is nearly impossible to get the nose pointed down to regain air speed in most of these situations. This has ONLY happened when flying the 38 and a few of the other twin engine fighters.

Did you retract your flaps as part of the recovery?  The pitch caused by the flaps will prevent you from getting the nose down.  I have this film of intentionally flat stalling, inducing a spin, connecting a shot, and recovering, no problem.

[daddog]

I fly the P-38 a lot myself.

It has already been said, so I will not beat a dead horse, but it is not the bird she was. If that is porked, fixed, or just right I have no idea, but I would take the P-38L prior the patch in a heart beat over what we have now.  

[Raptor]

A lot of the characteristics seem to portray what was written in P38 reports which is good. For example when I tried to get airspeed for the stall test, 1 wing would dip down. Also the stall which leads to a flat spin seems correct as well. I have not gotten in a flat spin where I have lost too much alt without meaning to since the P38 stall was fixed in one of the earlier patches of AH2. If you get into a flat spin, throttle down 1 engine and turn full rudder in the direction of that one engine. It works with the mossie and 110 too. Most of the time anyway, 110 and Mossie have a bad tendancy to get into a flat spin upside down.
I'm glad to see I wasn't going crazy and it was confirmed something was amok with the full flap setting. What would happen to me was I would be in a fight and not be looking at how far down my flaps are and put down a 5th notch and lose airspeed at a very rapid rate.

[38ruk]

The only way i can get out of a flat spin is to use the individual throttles , and rpm controls . Depending on the direction of the spin , i try to pull the rpm , and manifold back to idle on the engine that is helping the spin .   (If that makes any sense)      I'm not gunna bullchit ya and say i know exactly how i do it , but ive been in 3 flat spins from 15+k , and by the time ive hit 3-5K ive got the nose to go down all three times, and have saved mself .  IT's usually a big panic with me trying all sorts of throttle and rpm combo's when i pass 10k LOL    38

[Lazerr]

Hmmm, maybe the bug fix will help then.