I'm sorry, but you and I have a completely different take on this game when it comes to just about everything... Learning included. You refuse to learn by your mistakes... So you dont push anything. Fly around, do whatever you do, I dont know what... And that's it. If you dont push it... You, the plane, and the guy your fighting, you're never going to grow.
This stuff becomes tense only when some vet starts calling the other guy by names just because they refuse to "fly" or "learn" in the way they see fit. For example, your own attitude (or any other "vet's" for that matter) in this discussion disguises some clever 'concern' for the other guy - how you are worried that the other guy is "never going to grow".
Well, who in the world cares?
Again, other people rarely, if ever, question the attitude or flying styles of the vets. If it comes to the vets and their hugely successful scores and flying styles we also have some choice words to say according to our own observations on how the vets usually fly. However, we hardly say anything about, nor do we complain about it. They fly better, so they fly differently. We got no problems with that.
So likewise, keep your noses out of our butts. Whether we learn or not is none of anyone's business, nor did we ask anyone to 'care' about it. Whether we push our planes to the edge or not, whether we never 'grow' or not, just stay out of our business and there's no ruckus to start in the first place.
Only when some vet comes in these open forums and starts ranting about how none of the other guy flies the way he wants them to, does this 'problem' manifest. Soon all the other vets join in and start a collective tantrum of how everyone else in the game is all pansy and sissy except themselves.
Well, woop-dee-too. It's our non-growing pansy-ass, not yours.
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Do you treat every enemy as a hot-shot pilot? Seriously, they don't have special icons that say "hot-shot". So, how would you determine this, because he actually attempts to engage you? ESP?
Empirical evidence.
Say for example, you see a C.205 flying at mid-alts lower than your plane. The odds are, no 'n00b' is ever gonna fly a C.205 other than a very few guys who are trying the plane out. Try a few passes, and he will almost always display the most classic maneuvers that lead into certain overshoot situations. At that point, it becomes pretty clear what kind of pilot is flying the plane.
After being treated as cannon fodder for years, us average guys usually develop a knack for judging these kinda stuff upon the 'feel' alone.
Naturally, instead of "humbly learning our lessons", we'll just fly around timid, and wait for more of our own guys to gang up on him. He's in an Italian mid-war plane. He's not gonna run away from us. And then, we hit him like a pack of hyenas. Sure, we're only average, so even in that kind of fight a lot of us are probably going to get suckered and get shot down in the process.
However, one thing certain is we're not gonna give the C.205 an easy time in anything, nor will we ever give him the perfect fight he wants. We're either gonna bore him to death by running away when things aren't looking too good, or by gang-banging his rear end until he develops bloody hemorrages.
Besides, aren't you the guy that insists that the aircraft is the deciding factor as seen in your sigfile: "It's the machine, not the man".
So, if you're in the superior aircraft and are still afraid to engage, then you must be afraid of the "man" after all. That's what your post implies.
That's another story to tell.
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The whole point to this story is, the "ACM" and "vet" way of thinking aerial combat, is like "chivalry" in the medieval ages. There's no such thing in the first place - it's an empty ideal which only a very few of the few ever get to experience.
The rest of us, who constitute a very large and absolute proportion of the AH demographics, live in a different world of flying and fighting where none of the vet's fancy or reasonable ideas of skillful fighting exist. We don't necessarily care about the scores as much - like others have mentioned our K/D is barely over 1.0. However, score or no score, being shotdown by a classic sucker-punch hurts just the same, so we just try not to get shotdown, in our own way of flight where the rules of ACM don't apply, since most of us aren't good enough to understand the concept anyway.
If compared to real life, we're the guys who fly against people like Hartmann or Johnson or Gabreski. We're the runts and underlings who die out in their first week of the tour. We're the people who try vain things and get shot down in the process, and by dying, become training material for others who will become known as "aces". However, one big difference is that in AH, we don't stay dead. Some of us would eventually go over the edge and become one of the 'vets', but most of us will be in our own cycle of endless life and death in the virtual skies. It's where we live, and in this cycle, we have our own rule of ACM - "
Average
Combat
Maneuvering".
Indeed, in our own big world, we never "grow" or "get better". However, incidentally we do happen to be the majority of the AH world, and it is the vets who should be getting used to us, not us who should bow down before the vet-almighty, heeding to his wise words,
"Come play with me and get killed. You will learn something that way."[/b] I mean, if they really want others to learn, they can be the ones flying the role of the "target drone" and get shot down during the process. Why's it always have to be us who becomes the guinea-pigs in the vet demonstration of "how to sucker a fool"?
No thanks. We never complain about anything, so you should never complain about us.
