Author Topic: Global Warming (Read 21882 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #195 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:24:02 AM »

"contributing" what the hell does that mean? Of course we are contributing to global warming just like me peeing in the ocean is "contributing" to a rise in the EC of it...

How much money are we willing to spend or government agencies form or how much power are we willing to give to the corrupt and power hungry UN in order to get me to stop peeing in the ocean?

I mean... I am "contributing" to the rise in EC (measure of sodium).

If the sun is say 99.999% responsible for the current global warming.... how much socialism are you willing to endure to reduce the 0.001% "contribution" by... by what? 25%? how much will you endure to do this? to reduce the overall effect on global warming by 0.00001%

Is $8 a gallon gas a good trade off? a lowering of the standard of living by 10% or so? What are you global warming chicken littles willing to have us do?

I am willing to appease you if it has no real effect on my life.

So tell me... with all the learned scientists out there..... How much will we avert the doom of frying by all commiting suicide say?

If there suddenly were no people on the planet would global warming stop even if the sun continued to warm? How many minutes would the death of every person delay the "balance point"?

How many politicians and agencies will it take to save us? How much freedom will we have to give up to move forward the "balance point" doomsday even one hour?

I would rather live free and have my great grandkids fry an hour earlier or.... maybe not... maybe the sun will just change again and we will "all" be worried about the new ice age.

Maybe.... maybe we don't know jack about climate change.

lazs

straffo · « **Reply #196 on:** February 02, 2007, 12:43:16 PM »

You're too egoist to ever understand.
Continue to look closely at your navel and don't bother.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #197 on:** February 02, 2007, 02:59:27 PM »

All they got is a suitcase full of cash.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2004399,00.html

john9001 · « **Reply #198 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:25:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Dos Equis
All they got is a suitcase full of cash.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2004399,00.html

how much did the IPCC pay for their study?

Hawco · « **Reply #199 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:41:45 PM »

I agree that man may play a smaller role then thought perhaps just aggravating the situation. If that is the case we need to adapt.
If the suns energy is helping feed the climate changes, as data seems to support then we will escalate over the next 5 years as the sun goes from dormant to its 11 year solar peak. What is interesting is we had huge solar flares in the dormant period which indicate a lot more activity and energy release than normal since we have had since we have been keeping tack. It may also indicate the peak of a longer term cycle.

There is more to this than meets the eye. We do have historical observations of the sun related to the Great Floods. People said that the sun before the events was split with darkness. This indicates that they saw large sunspots in a configuration associated with the suns polarity reversal which will occur in 2012.
We need to make an executive decision now and need a Global Manhattan Scale project to become adaptable.

The blessing is that this Global Threat could help to unify the planet.

Shuckins · « **Reply #200 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:53:04 PM »

Ya know....they just announced that human activities are the single greatest cause of global warming.

Whether or not one buys into such a sweeping, all-encompassing statement, you gotta admire the sheer brass of some of the scientists who have contributed their two cents worth to the debate over global warming.

They've managed to cover all the bases....all possible eventualities. According to them, global warming is going to lead to droughts and famines... unless it increases the growing seasons. It will raise the temperatures of the oceans and cause the spawning of more hurricanes and catastrophic temperature rises in the northern hemisphere....unless the melting glaciers increase the levels of fresh water in the oceans, shutting down the Gulf Stream and causing the onset of an ice age.

"We're right, unless we're wrong, in which event we are also right. You Fools!"

Skuzzy · « **Reply #201 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:00:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Hawco
The blessing is that this Global Threat could help to unify the planet.

Sure, that'll happen. Everyone is going to be too busy laying the blame on the other guy.

How do you think they keep thier funding going Shuckins? The only way to be sure you are always right is to make sure you allow for all possibilities. That way the press will hail you as being a visionary and you will recieve mounds and mounds of money to continue to tell them everything they want to hear.

Pretty cool deal if you ask me.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #202 on:** February 02, 2007, 08:27:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
Ya know....they just announced that human activities are the single greatest cause of global warming.

Whether or not one buys into such a sweeping, all-encompassing statement, you gotta admire the sheer brass of some of the scientists who have contributed their two cents worth to the debate over global warming.

They've managed to cover all the bases....all possible eventualities. According to them, global warming is going to lead to droughts and famines... unless it increases the growing seasons. It will raise the temperatures of the oceans and cause the spawning of more hurricanes and catastrophic temperature rises in the northern hemisphere....unless the melting glaciers increase the levels of fresh water in the oceans, shutting down the Gulf Stream and causing the onset of an ice age.

"We're right, unless we're wrong, in which event we are also right. You Fools!"

What do they care? They will be long dead before any of the predictions prove true or false.

They have their grand/scare money now.

ghi · « **Reply #203 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:00:53 PM »

I see a Global Panic about global Warming, for few days i see all news sources poluted with same G.Warming alert/ info. on BBC, CNN, Yahoo , CBS , Google ,TV5 , ProTV news, (that's what i have booked as favorite news source), ............................. ....panic !,
Move all here in Canada, i pray for global warming, my diesel/brakes froze 2 days back in Thunder Bay, NW of Ontario, we still keep engines pluged with electric block heaters overnight, What G.Warming?

AWMac · « **Reply #204 on:** February 03, 2007, 03:20:10 AM »

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If the sun is say 99.999% responsible for the current global warming....

Simple, We place a set of shades on the Sun!

Mac

Angus · « **Reply #205 on:** February 03, 2007, 05:37:06 AM »

Here is the announcement, - link to video:
http://www.mbl.is/mm/frettir/togt/frett.html?nid=1251337

The figures are now stunning enough for most to agree upon.

oboe · « **Reply #206 on:** February 03, 2007, 08:48:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
Ya know....they just announced that human activities are the single greatest cause of global warming.

Whether or not one buys into such a sweeping, all-encompassing statement, you gotta admire the sheer brass of some of the scientists who have contributed their two cents worth to the debate over global warming.

They've managed to cover all the bases....all possible eventualities. According to them, global warming is going to lead to droughts and famines... unless it increases the growing seasons. It will raise the temperatures of the oceans and cause the spawning of more hurricanes and catastrophic temperature rises in the northern hemisphere....unless the melting glaciers increase the levels of fresh water in the oceans, shutting down the Gulf Stream and causing the onset of an ice age.

"We're right, unless we're wrong, in which event we are also right. You Fools!"

I think you need to read the report, or at least summaries of the report, more closely. For example, they said global warming will change precipitation patterns - more drought and famine at lower latitudes and higher precipitation and longer growing seasons at higher latitudes (and that does not imply an equal trade-off).

But I also think you maybe onto something - I noticed the same practice employed by some pundit in favor of the Iraq troop escalation. He said the additional troops should be able to quell violence in Baghdad, but also any increase in violence would be a sign that the troop deployment is working.

lazs2 · « **Reply #207 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:34:01 AM »

They don't say jack except that global warming will be bad..

They don't say what "man" needs to do to stop the sun from it's current state. they don't say how much man is "contributing" or how many minutes closer to the maybe doomsday we would save if we all just slit our throats today.

They don't say what will happen if the sun activity gets less intense. Both sides pay the potato scientists to make outlandish chicken little claims and we are the suckers who believe em.

When has a scientist ever been right with a doomsday prediction? I have been hearing one or another from "respected" scientists all my life. Every one of em so far off as to be laughable

you guys are suckers and you are gonna drag me down in your panic...

That's why I get nervous in big crowds... you guys are all sheep.. easily stampeded by another panicky sheep or a master.

lazs

Xargos · « **Reply #208 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:44:56 AM »

Mother Nature will always be Master of this planet, if she gets tired of us she will get rid of us. I hate people who are alway crying about protecting Nature. Mother Nature need not fear us, we need to fear Her.

lazs2 · « **Reply #209 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:56:46 AM »

I gotta say this... I understand that there are a lot of stupid people out there.. I am surprised that there are so many on this board tho.. suckers are nothing rare but.... here? Seems people here usually want proof... not when it comes to man made global warming it seems tho.

See.. it goes like this.. the potato scientists work for whoever pays em... somehow... it is noble if the UN pays em (the same UN with it's crooked food for oil program and countless others) but... if some oil company pays em...

At least the oil companies didn't change what the scientists said like the UN did.

So.. scientists are noble? well... except the oil company ones? at the very least, a smart man would see that they are all up for the highest bidder and will give you any answer you want.

Tell me about tons of C02 they don't understand and "tipping points" that they can't know cause we have never had one... tell me something more than "significant" and "contribute".

How much human activity ceasing will make the sun stop overheating? If we are "contributing" so what? breathing "contributes" cow farts "contribute"

If the sun suddenly reverses it's trend... what then? How much can we then "contribute" to stave off the ice age?

The answer to both is quite simple... no one has any idea but..... no matter what we do.. good or bad.. the sun runs the show and we can only pee in the ocean for all the good or bad we do.

Litter is ugly.. clean it up. smog in areas that have little or no cleaning action is bad. Don't dump oil on the ground where it will get into the water supply and don't use MTBE in the gas.... oops... the "scientists" insisted on that one to avert a crisis tho didn't they?

You don't pollute if it is possible... in some areas you have stricter regulations than others due to the makeup of the area.. but you sure as hell don't let some huge government agency set rules for everyone.

The same scientist that gave me MTBE is now telling me that I am to blame and have to change my lifestyle and pay him to do the so called studies?

I have survived the ice age of 1999... I have survived the shearing off of kalifornia into the ocean of 1975... I have survived the eternal winter of the 1990's when the sadman lit the kuwait oil feilds on fire and plunged us all into a decade long darkness with world wide famine (sound familiar?)

I am not sure if I have survived the solution to the ozone problem in the form of MTBE tho... It looks like that one about killed us off... luckily we stopped the "solution" before completely destroyed all our water.

So no... when it comes to the doomsday prediction portion of "scientific research" no, I don't believe a thing they say. I believe, that like every other time... they are intentionaly misleading people for their own benifiet be it money or fame. The doomsday scientists are potatos and scumbags.

lazs