Author Topic: Triple Buffs Should GO (Read 10370 times)

Lusche · « **Reply #225 on:** March 21, 2007, 06:37:54 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
The E6B tells you your speed precisely, so removing the speed readout in the bombsight would change nothing.

It would a bit. You don`t know the exact value your sight is calibrated to. 1mph off? 2? 4?

moot · « **Reply #226 on:** March 21, 2007, 06:40:02 PM »

That's almost negligible.. I haven't used the bomb sight speed at all, so far. I just pull up the E6B, throttle to 0 acceleration, open doors, line up, and calibrate..
That's given me negligible margins of error.

Stang · « **Reply #227 on:** March 21, 2007, 06:50:22 PM »

Bombing is too easy. E6B and laser targeting precision. Yawn.

blkmgc · « **Reply #228 on:** March 21, 2007, 07:22:48 PM »

Lets get to the real meat of the subject instead of beating around the bush. You furballers are just PO'd that you have to take time away from your mowing the grass at 8 G's, and have to defend against buffs in big formations lately. Well..tough.
I've flown a good number of missions in here recently, and there are some really great interceptor pilots. We've lost whole formations to cons, even with our "laser sighted guns", and jet assist 300 MPh capabilities. E6B for speed yadda yadda yadda? Never heard of it.Maybe some of you should wipe the tears away, and seek these folks out, stick your V-ego's in your pocket, and actually learn how to do it. Cause guess what, were here to stay. Get used to it.

Oh, and you better get organized. because the fine escorts we have been flying with have and will continue to hand "it" to you if you try the mid air refuel, or hang on your props to try and get us.

OTOH, big ~~to those who have shot us down. You've earned it.~~

hubsonfire · « **Reply #229 on:** March 21, 2007, 07:57:56 PM »

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Originally posted by blkmgc
Lets get to the real meat of the subject instead of beating around the bush. You furballers are just PO'd that you have to take time away from your mowing the grass at 8 G's, and have to defend against buffs in big formations lately. Well..tough.
I've flown a good number of missions in here recently, and there are some really great interceptor pilots. We've lost whole formations to cons, even with our "laser sighted guns", and jet assist 300 MPh capabilities. E6B for speed yadda yadda yadda? Never heard of it.Maybe some of you should wipe the tears away, and seek these folks out, stick your V-ego's in your pocket, and actually learn how to do it. Cause guess what, were here to stay. Get used to it.

Oh, and you better get organized. because the fine escorts we have been flying with have and will continue to hand "it" to you if you try the mid air refuel, or hang on your props to try and get us. OTOH, big ~~to those who have shot us down. You've earned it.~~

Well, the real subject is why do we still have formations when the accuracy wasn't reduced, since the whole premise of adding formations was because there would be no more pinpoint bombing. As one who does a little bit of everything, including bombing, I think the current setup is ridiculous. When you think about it, a bomber can do more damage than any other plane or vehicle to any field, CV, Vbase, strat factory, etc in the game, and can therefore have the most impact on gameplay. Looking at it from that standpoint, why should even the least experienced players be able to have the most impact on the game with the least amount of effort, training, and time?

999000 · « **Reply #230 on:** March 21, 2007, 08:05:30 PM »

Hub, Sorry we don't play the game YOUR WAY...If you want it YOUR WAY go to Burgerking!
999000

hubsonfire · « **Reply #231 on:** March 21, 2007, 08:18:32 PM »

Have you actually read and comprehended anything I've posted?

Stoney74 · « **Reply #232 on:** March 21, 2007, 08:34:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Oleg
It can not, in AH2 at least. But i will rather believe AH2 model is wrong than baugher's site is wrong.

Have better idea, though. Probably cruising speed in both baugher's and boeng's sites is IAC not TAC. Looks weird because top speed is TAC for sure, but makes some sense at least.

Just climb to 30k

Post this in the Bugs Forum and see what the reply is. Also, ask Widewing (if you value his opinion) about Baugher's site.

999000 · « **Reply #233 on:** March 21, 2007, 08:57:16 PM »

Hub, I've read it all .....including the lies and slander!....comprehend..YES
I understand fully the imature and self-centeredness of you and the BK's as read on your own Homepage.....In short the disregarding of every aspect of the game/people who don't strictly furball.
Please try demonstrating respect for all those who play .....the bomber guys, the GV guys, the toolsheders, land grabbers and the furballers.!
999000

blkmgc · « **Reply #234 on:** March 21, 2007, 09:10:01 PM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Well, the real subject is why do we still have formations when the accuracy wasn't reduced, since the whole premise of adding formations was because there would be no more pinpoint bombing. As one who does a little bit of everything, including bombing, I think the current setup is ridiculous. When you think about it, a bomber can do more damage than any other plane or vehicle to any field, CV, Vbase, strat factory, etc in the game, and can therefore have the most impact on gameplay. Looking at it from that standpoint, why should even the least experienced players be able to have the most impact on the game with the least amount of effort, training, and time?

Long and short of it. I've been shot down plenty by better then you. You talk of skill effort and training. Seek those out who are better than you, and learn. Because the ones who can, far outnumber the ones in this thread whining they cant.

JimmyZ · « **Reply #235 on:** March 21, 2007, 09:11:22 PM »

New sim, same old frakking whiny ***, crybaby, score*****ing, roundy-round at treetop level, last day of the war ride only dweebs. Sigh.

Could you imagine the crying that would go on in here if we let "Otto von ***birds version 2.77" loose for a week? They'd probably give us whole bombgroups just to go back to human gunners.

moot · « **Reply #236 on:** March 21, 2007, 10:56:43 PM »

Nice derail.

Xasthur · « **Reply #237 on:** March 21, 2007, 11:53:11 PM »

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Originally posted by 68slayr
i want to make it so buffs can't dive bomb. I hate the dive bombing lancs that drop there whole payload on the pad at Vbase.

Agreed, I spent several hours hovering above a V base lastnight defending against losers in divebombing lancs and 24s.

Perhaps we could reduce the strength of the wingroots or something? (not make them less resistant to weapon damage, just airframe stress).

Thus, if some dweeb tries to put his lancs a 3k ft/s dive and hold it with his doors open, he loses a wing or something?

Or, we could even 'invent' bomb door damage that prevents the releasing of bombs in a suicide dive?

Say, if the indicated airspeed rose above a certain speed, the airflow bends the doors 'in' and jams the bombs?

Perhaps not the most historically acurate thing in the world, but it would help to hinder buff diving lamers.

SkyRock · « **Reply #238 on:** March 22, 2007, 12:16:29 AM »

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Originally posted by moot
Just saying 1-man 1-plane means nothing.

So like I asked, what's the problem with formations?
Do you really expect bombers to survive as single ships?

You kind of answered this for the opposition in your case. You are saying that bombers need 3 lives to be functional and I am saying that is a load of crap! GV's are an example we can use. It is soo incredibly easy for GV's to be stopped at a base by one guy with an Il2, but GVer's don't get a formation! They get one ride per player, just all the other fighters and attackers..........except bombers! I would like to mention that I have nothing at all against peeps who like to Buff it. I just don't like the gaminess of drones!

Mark

hubsonfire · « **Reply #239 on:** March 22, 2007, 12:23:40 AM »

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Originally posted by 999000
Hub, I've read it all .....including the lies and slander!....comprehend..YES
I understand fully the imature and self-centeredness of you and the BK's as read on your own Homepage.....In short the disregarding of every aspect of the game/people who don't strictly furball.
Please try demonstrating respect for all those who play .....the bomber guys, the GV guys, the toolsheders, land grabbers and the furballers.!
999000

Great points, 999000, except that I'm not a BK. You can try to bait me into a pursefight with you, but I'm not going to let you. I play all aspects of the game, so this furballer vs the world **** isn't holding water.