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Offline McFarland

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« Reply #195 on: July 11, 2007, 08:56:54 AM »
Well, seing as I can't change your outdated witch hunting opinions, I have to say is this: The ignorance in this world is astounding. As for you DieAz, even though you can't read this, I have this to say: Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean you don't listen to them. It just means you know you are wrong and don't want to change. Seems that this generation won't listen to reason, nor are capable of intellectual thought processes. And as for cats being good at catching rats and mice, they can't get to them all the time. Snakes can. I haven't seen or heard a rat or mouse in years, not since I convinced me neighbors not to kill snakes. God bless Steve Irwin.

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« Reply #196 on: July 11, 2007, 09:04:14 AM »
mcfarland... if you have so few mice that a couple of snakes will solve the problem then you had no problem.

cats are nocturnal.. they see well in the dark.. mice do not mice run along walls as a rule..  cats will kill a dozen or more mice in a night  

farmers in mice country know this and have cats around.  

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« Reply #197 on: July 11, 2007, 09:09:30 AM »
This WAS mice country till I convinced me neighbors to stop killing the snakes. I had a terrible time keeping the vermin under control. A cat didn't wrok, neither did two cats. The problem got worse. I got rid of the cats, took them down the road and set them out, and the snakes came back. Lo and behold, after me neighbors quit killing them, the rats and mice went away. Sure, there were a lot of snakes around, with so many mice feeding them, but they never bothered me, the cows, the horses, the goats, the chickens, or any of the other animals. I taught the dogs to leave them alone, and we haven't had mice trouble since.

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« Reply #198 on: July 11, 2007, 09:13:12 AM »
And no, I'm not afraid of cats. Me papaw has two cats, both good cats, and they don't bother anything. They will let you pet them. And I also don't have pet snakes any more, I let them go outside. And I'm not strange, I have plenty of good friends (mostly rednecks and hillbillies (by which I mean dirt poor farmers and auto workers, not idiots that drink beer and sit in a chair all day)) and those people also aren't strange. Education is the main thing aboot snakes. Once you know how to correctly identify them, and you know how to take precautions, you are ok. They aren't out to get people.

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« Reply #199 on: July 11, 2007, 09:13:14 AM »
ok.. it worked for you but you have to admit that it doesn't work for everyone.  That farmers everywhere depend on cats to kill vermin and have excellent results without snakes.  

I am glad you had good results with anything.   I am sorry you are afraid of cats.

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« Reply #200 on: July 11, 2007, 10:14:38 AM »
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I have to say is this: The ignorance in this world is astounding.


A little ironic in this situation, but true.

 :rolleyes:

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Seems that this generation won't listen to reason, nor are capable of intellectual thought processes.


Just for us unediKated folks :) can you define "this generation' please. Inquiring minds want to know. :)
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« Reply #201 on: July 11, 2007, 10:15:04 AM »
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ok.. it worked for you but you have to admit that it doesn't work for everyone.  That farmers everywhere depend on cats to kill vermin and have excellent results without snakes.  

I am glad you had good results with anything.   I am sorry you are afraid of cats.

lazs


:aok

And this:

"mcfarland... if you have so few mice that a couple of snakes will solve the problem then you had no problem."

Hehe. Well, luckily we have no snakes up here, so they do not complicate the factors in a rodent campaign.
For the farmer, a cat is practically a must-have, and they do indeed do their jobs.
Keep cats, and breed cats of the hunting kind, and that's all you need.
Half-domesticated (since you have to feed them when they run out of mice, mostly in the winter) they are the playmates of children, and the true bosses of the barn!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #202 on: July 11, 2007, 10:27:19 AM »
This generation (n.) - The group of individuals referred to by many, it includes the idiots and off beats of a particular age level, and is referred to as being usually bad, ignorant, and evil. Usually younger than the person speaking. In this case, mostly 13 - 20 year olds who are afraid of snakes because their parents did not teach them otherwise, and thus think that snakes are slimy, out to get them, and all venomous and aggressive.



I am sorry to see that you all grew up thinking snakes are bad, and you should kill every one you see. Thus, you also grew up with no respect of life, and think it is just something you have the right to take away when ever you please. I meself know that life is something that once taken, can not be given back. So I think before I act. I only kill to eat, and in self defence. God bless Steve Irwin.
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« Reply #203 on: July 11, 2007, 10:40:14 AM »
Much older than 20, have no snakes, no lions, no gators, and no cayotees.
No special prejudice, just would shoot things that will pose a life threat for, - say a child, in the back yard.

BTW, how many people die each year because of a lethal barn-cat bite?
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« Reply #204 on: July 11, 2007, 10:42:18 AM »
None. How many people die from rabies spread through cats each year?

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« Reply #205 on: July 11, 2007, 10:45:30 AM »
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This generation (n.) - The group of individuals referred to by many, it includes the idiots and off beats of a particular age level, and is referred to as being usually bad, ignorant


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I meself no that life is something


Sometimes irony is.......ironic. :)

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Usually younger than the person speaking. In this case, mostly 13 - 20 year olds

Dang l`il whipper snappers. :)
  I suppose you had someone in mind here on the BBS that you automaticaly put in that group then, huh? A scientific thing I suppose that us mere mortals can`t comprehend.
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I am sorry to see that you all grew up thinking snakes are bad


Snakes are only bad when alive. I have the solution.-------> BOOM....good snake. :)
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Thus, you also grew up with no respect of life


Just a silly notion I have I guess, but I put human life before some fanged cuddle toy that slides around on it`s belly and has a nasty habit of inserting fangs into human flesh. I respect life all to well. ...Mine, my family`s and those around us.
You say you had cats and took them down the road and let them out.
You say you had snakes, then released them.
Seems just a tad wishy washy to me.
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« Reply #206 on: July 11, 2007, 10:56:59 AM »
No, I turned the snakes out after their injuries healed. I am a wildlife rehabilitator part time, when ever the need arises.

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Just a silly notion I have I guess, but I put human life before some fanged cuddle toy that slides around on it`s belly and has a nasty habit of inserting fangs into human flesh. I respect life all to well.


Not all snakes have fangs. Not all snakes have venom. 99.9% of snakes killed each year are harmless. They go aboot eating rats and mice. We kill more snakes each year than they kill of us. Who should be scared, the snake or us? I have no fear of snakes, and I've been bit. Nothing happened. Snake bites in America can be treated with anti venom, and most venomous snake bites are dry bites, which contain no venom. As for your family, teach them to leave snakes alone. Teach them which kinds are venomous and which are not. Then tell them to leave them alone, and go aboot their business. Snakes are only bad when dead. The solution: don't kill them. Then they can go on eating rats and mice, and leaving you alone. God bless Steve Irwin.

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« Reply #207 on: July 11, 2007, 11:19:09 AM »
The venomous and not-venomos kind is the bad part when something snaps you out of the grass and you don't go after it for analysis.

Where people tend to get bit, people are wary. You have 1000's of venomous snake bites in the USA each year, but that's nothing compared to Asia though. And in Asia, where people live together with snakes on a more common level, you have a high death toll. ..
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #208 on: July 11, 2007, 11:25:40 AM »
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The venomous and not-venomos kind is the bad part when something snaps you out of the grass and you don't go after it for analysis.


This is what I'm referring to, snakes aren't out to get you. They don't just suddenly strike out of nowhere. You can see the snake in the grass. It's not like it's invisible until you step on it. And you should be able to tell what kind of snake it is when you see it. They are easy to identify if you know the snakes in that area. I know every species of snake around here, and that isn't difficult to do. All you have to do is remember the venomous ones, if it isn't one of those that bit you, then it's harmless. And if there are no fang marks, then it's harmless. And if you can't tell the difference betwixt a garter snake, a king snake, a milk snake, and a copperhead, you are either blind, or just to lazy to read a field guide.

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« Reply #209 on: July 11, 2007, 11:32:14 AM »
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No, I turned the snakes out after their injuries healed. I am a wildlife rehabilitator part time, when ever the need arises.  


Man...it`s getting hard to keep up. A scientist, a farmer and a " wildlife rehabilitator." You do any brain surgery part time?

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We kill more snakes each year than they kill of us.


Yep. the scoreboard is looking good for us. Go team...go.  :)

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Who should be scared, the snake or us?


Snakes be afraid. Be very afraid. :)


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As for your family, teach them to leave snakes alone.


No thanks professor. My family has been raised. All agree, including husbands of all four daughters. BOOM....good snake. I don`t like to take chances with my grandkids. Snakes are completely disposable. My grandkids are not.

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Snake bites in America can be treated with anti venom, and most venomous snake bites are dry bites, which contain no venom.


Another load of happy bull poop. According to leading statistics, it`s about 50/50.


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Then tell them to leave them alone, and go aboot their business.


Oh they do. Right after the BOOM. After that point Mr. snake is free to do as he pleases. :)

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Snakes are only bad when dead


That`s when I enjoy them the most. :)
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