It's Like the Hydra

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by lazs2
tigress..  communism will probly never die nor, will islamofacism rooted in the oppression of it's people with barbaric 9th century law.

commies and islamofacists have that in common.. the hate of individualism and personal freedom.   there will allways be those who hate the thought of personal freedom and who fear it.

But...  It is fair to note that chinas communism is not the old soviet brand..  It at least has the glimmer of capitalism to it.   I believe that capitalism is such a superior system that it will trounce the commie every time...  I believe the people  of china will want more and more capitalism and less and less communism.

I believe that, so far as furthering communism goes, the chinesse are shooting themselves in the foot.

lazs

Lasz, the Chinese are shooting US in the foot.

THEY are the ones patiently drawing off all of our core industry's and businesses' overseas.

THEY are the ones that are starting to get on a technological par with the U.S., both militarily and civily.

They are very patient. They have learned the lessons that were shown by the Germans, Japanese, and the Russians. You won't beat the U.S.A. on any one single battlefield, right now-But they will wait until we can't even manufacture our own weapons' here in the continental U.S. before they take us to the mat. They will fuel the other side's in Proxy wars' which we get into, Whilst we ruin our diplomatic standing with our allies. They are just waiting for the day when we wake up, can't fight back, nobody's gonna come help us, and Type 90's are advancing off the beaches, headed for Washington D.C. But the meat and potatoes' of their victory will be the economic one they are winning right now-by hanging us with our own rope.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Tigeress
I like you BOTH! And also the rest of you men!

Work as a team...

Hugs,

TIGERESS

Family squabble. But bless the peace maker.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by lazs2
xmarine said..

"Why don't the islamofacists hate the Swiss, French, Mexicans or Cubans? because they're not over in the mid east causing death, disease and destruction maybe?

Mexico hasn't overthrown a democratically elected govt, fomented proxy wars or helped one country use "WMDs" against another, and surprise surprise.. there's no jihad on them. Imagine that."

Well.. now you are grasping at straws... why don't they hate the swiss?   who hates the swiss?   they have no power in the world.. they are a threat to no one and are a good place to bank..  Hitler didn't mess with em either.. not because he liked em or didn't want to rule em tho...  he figured he would save em for last.. just like the islamofacists feel.

The french?  maybe you missed the riots?   even kissing butt they have their muslim problems.. will probly be in worse shape than us when the dust settles... if it weren't for us... I would say they would be the next target.    

Mexico?  seriously?   what would be the point? no threat and no muslims there.   cuba.. same thing.

All of europe is a powder keg again..  this time it is the struggle with a faction of a fanatical religion rooted in the barbaric past.    As usual... we are dragged into your-0p's mess.   They can't or won't handle it so it gets stronger.  

tigress...  vietnam may not be a good example of what you are trying to prove..  it was very costly for the commies.   As was every place that we and the commies clashed.   The enemy was  the commies and we couldn't always pick the best (for us) place to drain em but... in the end.. we won.  the evil empire collapsed.

What difference does it make if we fight in iraq or libia or wherever they are so long as they collapse?    

lazs

Talk about grasping at straws. Some people want a global religious crusade a bit too much. As long as they get to just spectate from the comfort of their loungechairs and their hd big screen in their den. You shoulda just left it at:

"they have no power in the world.. they are a threat to no one and are a good place to bank..  "

Which was pretty much an admission that xmarine was indeed right. But then you had to grasp.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by lazs2
xmarine said..

"Why don't the islamofacists hate the Swiss, French, Mexicans or Cubans? because they're not over in the mid east causing death, disease and destruction maybe?

Mexico hasn't overthrown a democratically elected govt, fomented proxy wars or helped one country use "WMDs" against another, and surprise surprise.. there's no jihad on them. Imagine that."

Well.. now you are grasping at straws... why don't they hate the swiss?   who hates the swiss?   they have no power in the world.. they are a threat to no one and are a good place to bank..  Hitler didn't mess with em either.. not because he liked em or didn't want to rule em tho...  he figured he would save em for last.. just like the islamofacists feel.

The french?  maybe you missed the riots?   even kissing butt they have their muslim problems.. will probly be in worse shape than us when the dust settles... if it weren't for us... I would say they would be the next target.    

Mexico?  seriously?   what would be the point? no threat and no muslims there.   cuba.. same thing.

All of europe is a powder keg again..  this time it is the struggle with a faction of a fanatical religion rooted in the barbaric past.    As usual... we are dragged into your-0p's mess.   They can't or won't handle it so it gets stronger.  

tigress...  vietnam may not be a good example of what you are trying to prove..  it was very costly for the commies.   As was every place that we and the commies clashed.   The enemy was  the commies and we couldn't always pick the best (for us) place to drain em but... in the end.. we won.  the evil empire collapsed.

What difference does it make if we fight in iraq or libia or wherever they are so long as they collapse?    

lazs

The Swiss et al enjoy the evils of freedom, and we all know how much those wacky islamos hate freedom, the president said so remember? i

There is no guess work here, try reading some polls thats asks them why they hate the USA..

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, wrap yourself in the flag, spew some patriotic drivel you heard on TV about "cut and run" or  "surrender" while masterbating profusly to a weeping eagle / burining twin towers poster... it won't change the fact that Operation Ajax, Iran / Contra and all that other obscene history of US mideast screw ups of death & destruction you wish never happened are REALITIES.

[x0847Marine]

Here Laz, a Message From The Iraq Resistance.. there's a lot of rhetoric but you'll hear them talk about "sanctions" and other US FOREIGN POLICIES  as to why the don't like the US.. which confirms what poll after poll in the mid east already has.

You wont hear them say "we hate your freedom" tho... and there's no hating on the Swiss or Mexicans.

http://www.terroristmedia.com/nukem/download-file-176.html

[john9001]

non xmarine, exactily what "US FOREIGN POLICIES " do they not like?

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
Here Laz, a Message From The Iraq Resistance.. there's a lot of rhetoric but you'll hear them talk about "sanctions" and other US FOREIGN POLICIES  as to why the don't like the US.. which confirms what poll after poll in the mid east already has.

You wont hear them say "we hate your freedom" tho... and there's no hating on the Swiss or Mexicans.

http://www.terroristmedia.com/nukem/download-file-176.html

That link turned out to be restricted... have to be a member I guess.

Can you post an excerpt?

TIGERESS

[AKIron]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
You wont hear them say "we hate your freedom" tho...

Not in so many words. Among other freedoms they hate vehemently is the freedom to criticize their holy relics/prophet, or don't you remember a few cartoons that earned their writers death sentences?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by AKIron
Not in so many words. Among other freedoms they hate vehemently is the freedom to criticize their holy relics/prophet, or don't you remember a few cartoons that earned their writers death sentences?

How wreckless is your definition of they, again? Is it like the fanatic radicals you project upon the entire religion of Islam defining all Americans as satan worshipping imperialists? Well fighting stupid with stupid has always worked well.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Arlo
How wreckless is your definition of they, again? Is it like the fanatic radicals you project upon the entire religion of Islam defining all Americans as satan worshipping imperialists? Well fighting stupid with stupid has always worked well.

Reckless? Are you saying that all of Islam did not denounce the cartoons? There may have been a very few that objected to the death sentences imposed by Islamic leaders but they were few and they were not adamant in their condemnation. Even those few that did denounce the death sentences spent more time complaining about the cartoons than about killing the writers. "They" is exactly who I meant.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by AKIron
Reckless? Are you saying that all of Islam did not denounce the cartoons? There may have been a very few that objected to the death sentences imposed by Islamic leaders but they were few and they were not adamant in their condemnation. Even those few that did denounce the death sentences spent more time complaining about the cartoons than about killing the writers. "They" is exactly who I meant.

Denouncing a cartoon and making a death threat are two seperate acts, my friend. (And no, Islam in it's entirety did not.) You would misportray that to justify your own sense or moral mendacity, however.

Christians denounce a lot of things. The radical crackpots amongst them have been known to send death threats. Bomb clinics. But I know that doesn't make Christianity the problem. Those who would think so would be  part of it, though. As such, same goes for your delusional misportrayal of Islam to simplify your rationalization of your own angry fear.

At least that's what I'm seein' you do so far.

Please ... prove me wrong.

[Torque]

x0847marine does echoes what ron paul has been repeating in the debates... lacking the herd mentality he does speaks with an open and honest mind about the 9/11 commission results.

and ron paul has won the latest debates by a large margin... even on faux's polls he wins and the 9/11-giuliani repeat bots score real low.

it's a positive.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by Torque
x0847marine does echoes what ron paul has been repeating in the debates... lacking the herd mentality he does speaks with an open and honest mind about the 9/11 commission results.

and ron paul has won the latest debates by a large margin... even on faux's polls he wins and the 9/11-giuliani repeat bots score real low.

it's a positive.

I remember Dr. Paul said something about flawed past policies during a debate or something.. and Giuliani almost soiled himself in a manufactured fit of phony moral outrage most certainly intended for media consumption.

Later that night some DC hack named Duncan Hunter, filled with similar fake outrage, said on CNN that Dr. Paul was a kook because the people in the mid-east love the USA for saving Kuwait.. lmao, then he added we did nothing but help them.. they have no reason to hate us...

Never mind that countless polls, year after year indicate its US policies... why bother listening to reality when "they hate our freedom" fits on a bumper sticker.

Tigress yea I guess the video link is for 'members', but it's free and I highly suggest checking it out... there are 100s of videos. Although some are brutally graphic. They talk about sanctions that killed Iraqi kids, supposedly half a million, theft of their countries resources, the pillaging of Iraqs artifacts, and that the war wasn't sanctioned by the UN and is illegal. Besides that they're tired of being disrespected, and are really irked that modern cities that used to have flush toilets have been returned to the stone age.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by AKIron
Not in so many words. Among other freedoms they hate vehemently is the freedom to criticize their holy relics/prophet, or don't you remember a few cartoons that earned their writers death sentences?

Sure I remember... but I think its a leap in logic to opine they hate freedom based on a typically irrational knee-jerk religious reaction to the 'content' of a cartoon. Is it the "freedom", or the cartoon they hate?, and where is the evidence of this?

When the democrats threw a mofo letter at that fat radio wind-bag Rush, i/e criticized him, the dems did so because they hate Rushs freedom? and not what he said?

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
Sure I remember... but I think its a leap in logic to opine they hate freedom based on a typically irrational knee-jerk religious reaction to the 'content' of a cartoon. Is it the "freedom", or the cartoon they hate?, and where is the evidence of this?

When the democrats threw a mofo letter at that fat radio wind-bag Rush, i/e criticized him, the dems did so because they hate Rushs freedom? and not what he said?

IF... people were to read the Quran and start understanding the religion, it would be apparent.. No one is allowed by Islam to make a picture of Allah or insult the Prophet, Mohammed.

Chilling Islamic Demonstration of Cartoons. London.

These people are operating by well documented rules most of us don't even know about.

TIGERESS