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Offline DiabloTX

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« on: November 28, 2007, 04:26:58 PM »
Thunderbolt and Lightning...

Thunderbolt and Lightning...2 ways of saying the same thing.

Never put the 2 names together before.

No wonder the Germans had an electrifying experience against them.

30 years of reading about WWII aviation and I never made the connection.

Huh.

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2007, 04:40:51 PM »
Germans regarded the P-38 as a subpar plane.

P-47 didn't have the range to escort B17s in 1942 and 1943.

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2007, 04:44:18 PM »
Leave it to Aquashrimp to completely miss the point of the post...dot dot dot
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 04:48:12 PM »
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Germans regarded the P-38 as a subpar plane.

Can't wait to see the sources for this :)

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 04:51:04 PM »
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Germans regarded the P-38 as a subpar plane.

P-47 didn't have the range to escort B17s in 1942 and 1943.

Some Germans thought the P-38 was an easy fight.

The P-47 broke the back of the Luftwaffe, the P-51 took the credit.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 04:58:24 PM »
You would think they would ave been the lightningbolt and the thunder. I personally have never seen a bolt of thunder.

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 05:20:07 PM »
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You would think they would ave been the lightningbolt and the thunder. I personally have never seen a bolt of thunder.


From Merriam Webster online... For what it's worth.


Main Entry:
thun·der·bolt

Date:
15th century

1: a single discharge of lightning with the accompanying thunder.

2: a person or thing that resembles lightning in suddenness, effectiveness, or destructive power.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 05:39:51 PM »
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2: a person or thing that resembles lightning in suddenness, effectiveness, or destructive power.


So Warren Wallace should say he's made of Thunderbolts?:rofl


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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 07:15:38 PM »
I did not know that definition. Thanks for the ehjumacation.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 08:09:58 PM »
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Can't wait to see the sources for this :)


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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2007, 12:55:06 AM »
I always thought about the relation. Thunderbolt... the sound of the attack and, Lightning...... the flash of the attack. I',m sure the two names had nothing to do with each other.

And as much as i love the Lightning as an air superiority fighter as far as i know the Lightning was a disapointment in Europe. As an attack plane that was different. It was one of the most versatile as i know.

In the Pacific of course it was a complete monster. And ate Jap planes for breakfast. Due to it's huge speed difference, climbing ability, decent maneaverability, amazing firepower that would rip Jap planes in half with one burst, and teamwork, it was one of the reasons Japan lost. The Germans had planes that were much more of a match however.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2007, 01:59:01 AM »
Thunderbolt and lightning-very very frightening me-
Galileo,galileo,
Galileo galileo
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Did the British choose the name for the P-47?
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 02:10:19 AM »
They did for the P-38 and P-51.  I don't know about the P-47.

Conversely, the Royal Navy changed their name for the F4F to Wildcat to match the US Navy's name.

Japan's J2M was named "Thuderbolt" too, but in Japanese.

The Ki-84 was "Hurricane" or "Gale" depending on the translation.


EDIT:

I vaguely recall that the Meteor was supposed to be named Thunderbolt, but when that name was given to the P-47 it was redesignated Meteor.  I could be confusing Thunderbolt with Tempest though.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 05:07:22 AM »
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Thunderbolt and lightning-very very frightening me-
Galileo,galileo,
Galileo galileo
Galileo figaro-magnifico-

Did the British choose the name for the P-47?



Don't think so but I'm glad they did for the P-38.  Atlanta doesn't sound as cool as Lightning.


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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 06:44:15 AM »
I think the P-47 was named the Thunderbolt by the Yanks, and the Brits originaly wanted to call the Typhoon the Thunderbolt but changed their mind once the Jug had been christened.