Pony B Population

[BaldEagl]

Sometimes a single encounter or two can shape someone's judgement.

I've only ever "fought" you twice Steve.  Once I chased your Pony on the deck in a Spit XVI, then, when I knew I wouldn't catch you, I turned and, while engaged with 3 other cons you came back and picked me.

The other time I was on the deck engaged with a single con when you came in from above and picked me again.

Now I'm not complaining.  Both times I knew you were there and chose not to bother with you.  That was totally my own fault.  If that's how you get some of your kills great.  I get a few the same way but I've always given you the benefit of the doubt as to your style and abilities.  Others may not.  I've been around long enough to know that it takes more than a couple of encounters to judge someone.

I like you (not in any gay way or anything btw ) and would hate to "lose" you as a contributing member of the community.  As you are well aware, you have to have a thick skin to participate in these BBs (or on 200), so if I were you I'd write them off as sore losers and forget about it. 

On the other hand, and not having fought you that much, if that is your modus operandi, then you reap what you sow.

Either way it doesn't matter.

BTW, sorry not to rush in gushing like all your other supporters, even though I am trying to support you.  It's just not my style.

[SectorNine50]

I think a lot of people the complain about pickers are the Spit pilots (no offense).  It's odd to me how many Spit pilots expect a Pony to stick around and turn fight with them.  I sure as hell won't try to do maybe more than 1 or 2 turns before I'll extend just because the "E" retention on Spits is very scary.  I'd be willing to bet that if those people flew something like a F4U, 109, 190, etc. etc., they would see Pony pilots in a completely new light.

[valdals]

i ran into one p-51b this tour. he cherry picked 2 guys and ran away. he would not fight me in my spit 16.

[BnZ]

I think a lot of people the complain about pickers are the Spit pilots (no offense). 

Or they are flying anything rather slow with an extreme maneuverability advantage. Indeed, if someone reasonably good in a Pony like Steve were instead flying say a N1K, they'd be in here  about getting owned and making "perk the N1K threads" instead of  about being destroyed while engaging in futile  chases of faster planes.

i ran into one p-51b this tour. he cherry picked 2 guys and ran away. he would not fight me in my spit 16.

Case in point....

[CAP1]

i think the point i was trying to make earlier though, is that in the right hands, a pony can still beat 90% of the aircraft in here, as modeled. the pilot may not fight a pure turnfight, but i also believe he doesn't have to resort to BnZ, or simply cherry picking.
 i also don't complain too much about it when i get picked(although it does piss me off), because i'm the one that put me in that low slow turnfight.
 i am getting a little better at knowing when i'm being set up....ie the guy in front of me suddenly starts doing more gentle evasives, or goes up when there's other ocns in the area.....
 if someone's BnZ'ing me, i consider it a victory if i survive the engagement.
 

[BnZ]

The Pony has two big things going for it IMO.

1. It can usually engage when it wants to, and disengage when it doesn't.

2. With its views and guns, it can, on a plane it has an E advantage over, almost certainly set up at least one good shot. Good plane for a real sniper IMHO.

I flew it a little this morning though, and I had forgotten how squirrely it can be as a gun platform. Steve, I see one of the difficulties you labor under. If someone does the split-S at the last second and you have to push the nose forward a bit to get lead, forget it, nose wanders all over the place. Also notice that when you hit auto-level, it will "porpoise" quite badly sometimes, further evidence of squirrelieness.

[Anaxogoras]

I've only ever "fought" you twice Steve.  Once I chased your Pony on the deck in a Spit XVI, then, when I knew I wouldn't catch you, I turned and, while engaged with 3 other cons you came back and picked me.

I would do that to any Spit XVI without hesitation.

Make no mistake, if you're in a XVI some of us will give you "special treatment."

[Hajo]

Steve stay put!

Number one.  Half of these gentleman spouting off don't know you at all.  Number two....they know little if nothing about air combat.
Some of these gents making snide remarks would belittle someone for not turnfighting their zero, spit etc. at low speed.  They need a sucker to get a kill.

Number Three......whatever one flies you try and fly to the strengths of your craft.....not to the strengths of your opponents.
They wouldn't know SA or ACM if it hit them in the face.

Steve my friend don't pay attention to those that are p'od because you know how to use your aircraft and they don''t know what to do with theirs.  Or....even if they do I guess they actually want you to give up your advantage so you are their target.


Sheeeeeeeeeesh   

[BaldEagl]

I would do that to any Spit XVI without hesitation.

Make no mistake, if you're in a XVI some of us will give you "special treatment."

Well, I've found out it's no different in a F4F-4.  Last week I was ganged by 4-5 Tempests, last night I was downed in a me on 8 playing base defense.

I think hoards just like to gang anything that gets slow and there's always a picker among them.

[CAP1]

Well, I've found out it's no different in a F4F-4.  Last week I was ganged by 4-5 Tempests, last night I was downed in a me on 8 playing base defense.

I think hoards just like to gang anything that gets slow and there's always a picker among them.

i think in things like that, they all see the kill comming...and they figure they'll beat the other guy to it.......

[SectorNine50]

i ran into one p-51b this tour. he cherry picked 2 guys and ran away. he would not fight me in my spit 16.

Well... Yeah...

[Becinhu]

I liek the B model much better for a furball. I seem to be able to knife fight much better in the B than the D. Of course if I'm banging hangers the D is a must.

There are only a few pilots I generally fear in a d model. Those are any AK, Steve, and 0ldemon. Plus I suck so I'm an easy kill anyway. Also, BE hasn't cleaned my clock in awhile so I won't inflate his ego. 

[Chalenge]

(Cough!) I wonder who this was? 



and not even an honorable mention? 

 

[Vudak]

Those who think they are "leet" but think a sim pilot should be banned from the game for more or less following Hartmann's dicta are ridiculous.

Thinking of oneself as "leet" and not being impressed by people emulating Hartmann are two different things...

It's your $15, but here's my point of view: If you want to spend your online time in this absolutely consequence-free environment where death means nothing, running around practicing Dicta Boelke and pretending you're Hartmann, that's fine.  Just don't expect much respect or adulation from those who run around pretending they're Marseille.

I'm not necessarily speaking to you in particular, BnZ...  But it seems like for every crybaby angles fighter who complains about how worse planes won't try and turnfight them, there's another crybaby BnZ'er who can't understand why no one's that impressed with him/her.

Personally, the people that impress me are the guys that take a plane "worse" than mine, and put up the absolute best fight they can.  Win, lose, or draw, they've got my admiration.  I guess it's kind of like how a high school dropout turned millionaire will sell more autobiographies than a silver-spoon-fed guy who inherited his riches.  People like the feisty underdog in life, and in this game, it's no different.

YMMV

[CAP1]

Thinking of oneself as "leet" and not being impressed by people emulating Hartmann are two different things...

It's your $15, but here's my point of view: If you want to spend your online time in this absolutely consequence-free environment where death means nothing, running around practicing Dicta Boelke and pretending you're Hartmann, that's fine.  Just don't expect much respect or adulation from those who run around pretending they're Marseille.

I'm not necessarily speaking to you in particular, BnZ...  But it seems like for every crybaby angles fighter who complains about how worse planes won't try and turnfight them, there's another crybaby BnZ'er who can't understand why no one's that impressed with him/her.

Personally, the people that impress me are the guys that take a plane "worse" than mine, and put up the absolute best fight they can.  Win, lose, or draw, they've got my admiration.  I guess it's kind of like how a high school dropout turned millionaire will sell more autobiographies than a silver-spoon-fed guy who inherited his riches.  People like the feisty underdog in life, and in this game, it's no different.

YMMV

WELL, I put up part of what you're talking about. i put up the best fight i know how. win= my opponent, lose=me, draw=not when i fly and fight.'

i pretty much always have a slow plane, so there's no running.