ENY - and why it is bad for the game

[RufusLeaking]

What is wrong with the Pony B? Seems like all Pony fans refuse to fly it, almost as much as the LA7 "fans" refuse to fly the LA5 (at a ridiculously high ENY 30!).

Icons at a distance (greater than 800 yards?) are not specific. People treat "LA" planes as LA-7s. Whoever has the stones to engage an LA-7 will usually spank an LA-5.

Same issue for P-51B, Spit Mk1, and to a lesser extent, the lovely P-40C.

(See the example of the P-47M, which would had gotten ENY 5 instead of 10 if they had chosen to give it ords).

I thought the P-47N was the P-47M with ords?

[Lusche]

I thought the P-47N was the P-47M with ords?

No.

[Xtrepid]

ohhhhh  another genius.  Switch sides.....there is still a side switch timer in place.  I can change to the low side and 2 hours later that is the high side.......I cannot switch again.

Think before you post!

Personally I don't care, but, did you not say you have four accounts?

Um... wouldn't that allow you to switch to another account, and fly on the side that does not forbid you to fly your Pony D?

 

Of course, I could have missed something... 

 
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Perk the 190a8 

mossies have never hurt anyone no need to fiddle with it's ENY.   Infact lower the 190A8's as it is overmodelled!   

[caldera]

But in fact the P-51D is the big killer in the main arena... no other plane kills so much more than it is being killed. It's the dominating plane of the set.

Despite some folks assertions that the P-51D is not an outstanding aircraft, what would explain that it has been the undisputed #1 killer in Late War for the past 69 tours?  Every tour since 121, the P-51D has been the #1 fighter.  Every single tour, without exception, since February 2010. *


* This can be verified using the AH stats page:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php


Snail, would you be able to make a bar graph of all the fighter kills ever in AH?  Bet the P-51D's bar would dwarf all others by a large margin.

[Drano]

I just don't grasp why someone would insist on always flying one particular plane, all the time, when we have so many nice ones to choose from.

- oldman

Exactly! I mean if the ENY changes and I can't fly the P-38L, there's always the P-38J! And if things get even worse there's the P-38G!

What's with people?!

Hehe



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[guncrasher]

What is wrong with the Pony B? Seems like all Pony fans refuse to fly it, almost as much as the LA7 "fans" refuse to fly the LA5 (at a ridiculously high ENY 30!).

Regarding chess piece loyality. If ENY hits you on regular basis, it means that you need to switch ONCE and be loyal to indifferent piece. If it happens only once in a while - suck it up. It seems to be working on a global scale, except with a very small minority who refuse to get it.

nothing wrong with the ponyb.  it flies just like a spit8 but without cannons.  so might as well take a spit since it has cannons.


semp

[DmonSlyr]

nothing wrong with the ponyb.  it flies just like a spit8 but without cannons.  so might as well take a spit since it has cannons.


semp

Not really though... the spit 8 is much more versatile. The spit8 makes the pony B look like a fat pig. I really don't see how you could compare the 2 planes as they don't really fly with the same style.

[DmonSlyr]

IMO, I wish there was more of an incentive to fly harder and older planes in the MA. I'm tired of always fighting against P51Ds, 190Ds, and LA7s. The are obviously the most used and any pilot that knows how to play well will dominate the skies. Sure they are fun to fly on some occasions, but I wish there was a less need to fly the easiest planes in the game for most players, that's just my opinion though.

[Lusche]

Snail, would you be able to make a bar graph of all the fighter kills ever in AH?  Bet the P-51D's bar would dwarf all others by a large margin.

That would be easy to do for me, and the P-51D would indead lead that chart.
But a single 'all-time' graph can be quite misleading, as the population wasn't constant over the years and the planeset did change by the addition of planes over time and changes in the flight modeling. (And, to a lesser extend, by changes in the combat environment). F

[FBKampfer]

IIRC, the P-51 is simply the most used, per Snailman's stats, while still having a high-average KTD. It was, I believe, planes like the P-38, 109K, La-7, and Ta-152 with the highest KTD's.

[caldera]

IMO, I wish there was more of an incentive to fly harder and older planes in the MA. I'm tired of always fighting against P51Ds, 190Ds, and LA7s. The are obviously the most used and any pilot that knows how to play well will dominate the skies. Sure they are fun to fly on some occasions, but I wish there was a less need to fly the easiest planes in the game for most players, that's just my opinion though.

One way to encourage this might be extending the ENY scale to 60 or even 100. 

[caldera]

That would be easy to do for me. But a single 'all-time' graph can be quite misleading, as the population wasn't constant over the years and the planeset did change by the addition of planes over time and changes in the flight modeling. (And, to a lesser extend, by changes in the combat environment)

How about just the last five years, then?

[Chris79]

Late War Tour 189 Statistics for all planes/vehicles/boats
Plane Name   Kills   Deaths   Kill/Death Ratio
A-20G   1062   754    1.41
A6M2   26   57    0.45
A6M3   91   110    0.82
A6M5b   530   638    0.83
Ar 234   63   33    1.85
B-17G   549   1366    0.40
B-24J   331   869    0.38
B-25C   26   166    0.16
B-25H   354   568    0.62
B-26B   292   864    0.34
B-29   45   38    1.15
B5N2   70   41    1.67
Bf 109E-4   19   27    0.68
Bf 109F-4   116   209    0.55
Bf 109G-14   531   453    1.17
Bf 109G-2   52   89    0.58
Bf 109G-6   209   185    1.12
Bf 109K-4   820   658    1.24
Bf 110C-4b   20   22    0.87
Bf 110G-2   633   909    0.70
Boston III   17   83    0.20
Brewster B-239   220   331    0.66
C-47A   20   461    0.04
C.202   5   7    0.62
C.205   243   213    1.14
Chute   143   85    1.66
D3A1   8   17    0.44
F4F-4   59   56    1.04
F4U-1   205   124    1.64
F4U-1A   618   401    1.54
F4U-1C   287   137    2.08
F4U-1D   565   751    0.75
F4U-4   295   98    2.98
F6F-5   671   819    0.82
Fi 156   57   513    0.11
FM2   255   207    1.23
Fw 190A-5   387   365    1.06
Fw 190A-8   845   816    1.03
Fw 190D-9   1541   915    1.68
Fw 190F-8   105   193    0.54
G4M1 Betty   2   57    0.03
Gunner   32   17    1.78
He 111H   11   136    0.08
Hurricane Mk I   5   7    0.62
Hurricane Mk IIC   187   251    0.74
Hurricane Mk IID   32   57    0.55
I-16   34   42    0.79
Il-2   264   285    0.92
Jagdpanther   97   35    2.69
Jagdpanzer 38   1201   1279    0.94
Jagdpanzer IV   183   128    1.42
Jeep   60   385    0.16
Ju 87D-3   30   50    0.59
Ju 87G-2   39   94    0.41
Ju 88   32   179    0.18
Ki-43-II   143   175    0.81
Ki-61-I-Tei   199   155    1.28
Ki-67   80   181    0.44
Ki-84-Ia   1072   778    1.38
La-5FN   273   217    1.25
La-7   1579   1167    1.35
Lancaster III   595   2648    0.22
LVTA2   58   348    0.17
LVTA4   46   174    0.26
M-16   142   352    0.40
M-18   1552   1159    1.34
M-3   392   1905    0.21
M-8   378   796    0.47
M4A3(75)   310   851    0.36
M4A3(76)W   878   566    1.55
Me 163B   104   16    6.12
Me 262   557   88    6.26
Me 410   141   205    0.68
Mosquito Mk VI   461   363    1.27
Mosquito Mk XVI   2   10    0.18
N1K2   1445   1224    1.18
Ostwind   457   454    1.00
P-38G   119   54    2.16
P-38J   395   258    1.53
P-38L   692   901    0.77
P-39D   11   46    0.23
P-39Q   63   80    0.78
P-40C   19   20    0.90
P-40E   21   38    0.54
P-40F   28   29    0.93
P-40N   49   73    0.66
P-47-D11   147   115    1.27
P-47-D25   202   139    1.44
P-47-D40   407   474    0.86
P-47M   978   556    1.76
P-47N   194   370    0.52
P-51B   230   172    1.33
P-51D   2213   1794    1.23
Panther G   3371   746    4.51
Panzer IV F   1180   1586    0.74
Panzer IV H   5482   7837    0.70
PT Boat   100   460    0.22
SBD-5   7   37    0.18
SdKfz 251   3   23    0.12
Sea Hurricane Mk I   48   77    0.62
SeaFire   299   425    0.70
Sherman VC Firefly   282   168    1.67
Ship Gunner   3321   0   3321.00
Spitfire Mk I   5   24    0.20
Spitfire Mk IX   508   513    0.99
Spitfire Mk V   47   85    0.55
Spitfire Mk VIII   595   459    1.29
Spitfire Mk XIV   349   360    0.97
Spitfire Mk XVI   1447   1314    1.10
T-34/76   427   979    0.44
T-34/85   3542   2224    1.59
Ta 152H   469   250    1.87
TBM-3   60   128    0.47
Tempest   456   67    6.71
Tiger 2   495   64    7.62
Tiger I   397   177    2.23
TU-2S   302   1023    0.29
Typhoon IB   620   416    1.49
Wirbelwind   3184   2320    1.37
Yak-3   894   794    1.12
Yak-7B   44   52    0.83
Yak-9T   122   167    0.73
Yak-9U   251   157    1.59
Totals   59533   59533    1.00



There seems to be a few higher eny planes that have a higher kill to death ratio then the pony and la7

[DmonSlyr]

PERK THE P38G 

Chris, It's because newer pilots fly those planes and they tend to die more often. The P51D already has 2000+ kills which is substantially more than any other plane. The 190D also has a relatively high K/D with many kills.


I'd also like to add that just because a plane is good, doesn't mean the pilot is, and planes like the spitfire, although deadly, are difficult to land kills in because most pilots don't fly the spit BnZ style, and they can't dive away from a fight like the 190D can.