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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2016, 05:48:30 AM »
ever stopped to think that "4 out 5 times" was a typo for "4 or 5 times" or "4 to 5 times"

I know that on the spelling auto-correct that or and out are next to each other....

just a thought

Quote from: Mar on March 23, 2016, 11:59:37 AM
Yeah...

Reading a little, apparently disabling xHCI handoff disables the USB 3.0 ports. And that fixed it? Huh...

This is concerning! If TE Shaw's tech support for his newly built computer just talked TE through a quick bandaid patch to get him up and running, instead of fully diagnosing the problem...

TE, check and see if you are able to use any of your USB 3.0 ports...if not, you may want to take your new PC in to the builder, if it was built locally...


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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2016, 07:28:24 AM »
I still think bump down or even remove USB from the boot order is worth a shot. No disrespect intended but I'm guessing Shaw isn't gonna be trying to boot his PC from a thumb drive like ever! Easy enough to get to and wouldn't hurt a thing. If anybody needed to put it back easy enough again.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2016, 08:40:21 AM »
Well, you guys are right...the fix didn't fix. It only worked a few times, but the machine never loaded Win7 previously when the gear was plugged in.

I hesitate to remove USB from the boot order because my Win7 disk would be on an external USB DVD player.  But saying that probably just proves my ignorance of this bios stuff.  Maybe have the bios look to the hard drive first, then the USB?

Frankly, I'm feeling kind of guilty for all the time you gentlemen have invested in this
small problem.  Thank you,

I did notice my powered USB hub was giving me a red light on the Fighterstick, and I've replaced it with another that does seem to be better supplying power to the gear.

I'll try that on the next boot attempt...later, after my frustration-fatigue subsides.

Imadot's work-around sounds easier than flogging this thing.

Thanks again.
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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2016, 08:42:21 AM »
But you shouldn't need the disc to run the PC once windows has been installed. Or am I missing something?

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2016, 08:46:22 AM »
Oh and the red light the stick is just a mode indicator. There's red, green and yellow lights, one for each programming mode. Push on the top outside button to change it. If you have a throttle push inward on the mini joystick.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2016, 09:04:26 AM »
OK.

I think it's solved. Well, I think actually you guys solved it. I absorbed some of your mumbo-jumbo about the keyboard...

Sorry I've been so dense, thanks for your patience.

I replaced my wireless keyboard with a cheap Logitec USB keyboard...that's plugged into the 2.0 port.

The new powered hub is in the 3.0 port.

I'm 3 for 3 on boot up.

Drano, wouldn't I need Bios to boot from the Win7 disk if I ever had to replace/repair Windows? (external DVD).

Thanks again guys...if this doesn't work I'm not even going to tell you!

Salute.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2016, 09:18:06 AM »
The bios is part of your motherboard. That's how you set up a PC initially without anything else running. You could have just a keyboard or in your case just a mouse plugged in (although it has to be in a certain port) , wait for a prompt for think it's to hit the del key and you're into the mobo bios.

Windows doesn't come into play until the mobo "proves" those settings and moves on to the boot drive that you've specified.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2016, 09:26:06 AM »
Example of that. I'd said up the thread I'd had USB set first a while back. I had a project where the plan was to reflash the bios on my video card to unlock my 6950 and turn it into a 6970. That was just the process. Unfortunately it didn't work for me as my card was a later production block and they'd "fixed" that little loophole. The bastiges! No biggie. I just switched the boot order back to the hard drive I have Win7 on and that was that.

So see there would be a reason to have it set that way but generally that wouldn't be how it'd be set.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2016, 11:05:22 AM »
Oh and I don't know if I just had a eureka moment but...

Take that Windows 7 disc out of that usb drive! That disc is bootable and may have something to do with this thing jumping the tracks.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2016, 11:19:58 AM »
Thanks, Drano; but I never said the Win7 disc was in the drive...I didn't even say the DVD was plugged in.

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2016, 11:21:14 AM »
Oh dangit! Nvm

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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2016, 12:47:27 PM »
Although it has already been said, I'll summarize:

No, you don't need to have the USB boot option as the first one just in case you'd need to reinstall Windows. You can change it whenever really needed. Even better, your mobo may allow you to choose your booting device by pressing a certain key at boot time. That comes in handy if you want to run Linux from a USB stick or CD like I sometimes do to get data from a broken hard disk. Having the hard disk as the primary booting device also speeds up the boot time a little since your system doesn't have to scroll through all possibilities before getting to the desired one.
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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #72 on: March 24, 2016, 01:17:21 PM »
Quote from: TEShaw on March 24, 2016, 09:04:26 AM
Thanks again guys...if this doesn't work I'm not even going to tell you!

But but but...
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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2016, 02:32:52 PM »
Quote from: Mar on March 24, 2016, 01:17:21 PM
But but but...
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Problems like this should be brought to the public. We all learn from these, especially if the problems get solved. Something you just can't learn at any school.
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Re: Make this table STOP BEATING MY HEAD ...Win7, CH controllers
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2016, 03:07:50 PM »
OK,  Mar and Biz,

Since you insist:

A day later and still booting fine with the configuration as described.

Thanks.

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