Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable

[AKIron]

Thats the point, all planes were flown by players. The game allows 3 bombers to link to a single player, so some players were controlling 3 planes at a time.

Im done here. Like I said you seem to only want to argue and are making up things to keep it going.

Bye.

[CptTrips]

Thats the point, all planes were flown by players. The game allows 3 bombers to link to a single player, so some players were controlling 3 planes at a time.

Im done here. Like I said you seem to only want to argue and are making up things to keep it going.

Each player was allowed to have 2 AI element wings that executed AI logic to maintain a relative position. 

Each human lead mere provides the AI element a dynamic route point to steer toward.  But the path logic is no different that if it was flying to reach a route point I placed for it in the mission editor.  It is just dynamic and constantly being moved.

Assuming they had the use AI formation configuration enabled which I assume they did.

[AKIron]

I think there must be some AI in the gunnery too. That not directly controlled by the player. For example, I'm in the tail gunner position. I shoot at a fighter. It's been a while so I may be wrong but the gunners in the other planes shoot too. Their aim cannot be controlled directly by mine or just the fact they aren't sitting exactly where I am means they will never hit where I do. I think it likely an AI is "choosing" to aim at the target I am aimed at.

[Animl-AW]

I may not have the bigger audience, the graphics are aging, but the action isn't and I we have 100% human pilots in big numbers

Read yhe description , no AI and more action.

[CptTrips]

I think there must be some AI in the gunnery too. That not directly controlled by the player. For example, I'm in the tail gunner position. I shoot at a fighter. It's been a while so I may be wrong but the gunners in the other planes shoot too. Their aim cannot be controlled directly by mine or just the fact they aren't sitting exactly where I am means they will never hit where I do. I think it likely an AI is "choosing" to aim at the target I am aimed at.

Sure.  The AI wingmen don't just mirror the lead gun inputs. 

They look at where his convergence is point and use AI logic to figure out how they need to point to aim at the same spot. 

Which may include making and AI decision to use a different gun than the lead if needed because different angles.  That is AI decision making.

[Animl-AW]

Each player was allowed to have 2 AI element wings that executed AI logic to maintain a relative position. 

Each human lead mere provides the AI element a dynamic route point to steer toward.  But the path logic is no different that if it was flying to reach a route point I placed for it in the mission editor.  It is just dynamic and constantly being moved.

Assuming they had the use AI formation configuration enabled which I assume they did.

As apposed to dcs which planes fly entirely ALONE on 100% AI.

Man you guys are struggling here.


The bad effort is blinding

[AKIron]

I have no problem with AI being used in a mission though. Even bigly if every 2 bombers in 3 was AI flown. If you weren't so antagonistic about almost everything Animl I wouldn't have called you out on it. Lighten up a little maybe.

[CptTrips]

Were there or were there not any AI aircraft in that video?

Lemme check with Brooke.  Maybe they didn't have AI bomber formation enabled.

[Animl-AW]

Sure.  The AI wingmen don't just mirror the lead gun inputs. 

They look at where his convergence is point and use AI logic to figure out how they need to point to aim at the same spot. 

Which may include making and AI decision to use a different gun than the lead if needed because different angles.  That is AI decision making.

Point very purposely avoided, like the price of DCS, MUCH MORE HUMAN ACTION, Thete, I said it for you

[CptTrips]

Were there or were there not any AI aircraft in that video?

[Animl-AW]

Does it bother you guys I posted AH content in a cloaked DCS thread you claim you’re not selling/skimming? I wonder why this post really bothers you

[Animl-AW]

Were there or were there not any AI aircraft in that video?

Quiet, what you do at dcs is 100% AI. And no, even AH bomber drones are controlled by s human.

You guys would suck in s court room

[AKIron]

Were there or were there not any AI aircraft in that video?

I didn't watch enough of it to know but will do so. It's easy to spot.

[AKIron]

Quiet, what you do at dcs is 100% AI. And no, even AH bomber drones are controlled by s human.

You guys would suck in s court room

Your ignorance is showing. There is no AI in the world, yet, capable of doing anything 100% on it's own. Or even .001%. It's all scripted, 100%. Of course real time instruction or event can alter the script.

[CptTrips]

I didn't watch enough of it to know but will do so. It's easy to spot.

Yeah that jerking forward and back of the bombers is what Nefarious always ran into making the Fortress Europe missions.

If I remember it was the AI wingmen of a human lead that do that.  Something about the AI logic trying to follow the human. 

A pure AI formation never had that.