UH HUH, Yeah Right....

[Wingnut_0]

I'm sry, I should of consulted on which news organization to get the "facts" & "truth".  The BBC is nice but like CNN I wouldn't hold it is my only source that's for sure.

Get my facts straight?  Pfft, you and Udie both have no more facts than anyone else on this dam board.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

The very fact that Israel is not letting the UN group in reveals that they do have something to hide.

What could the group find if there was nothing to find?

Martti Ahtisaari, the leader of the UN group is a close relative of mine and I know for a fact he's not biased one way or the other.

[Udie]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
The very fact that Israel is not letting the UN group in reveals that they do have something to hide.

What could the group find if there was nothing to find?

Martti Ahtisaari, the leader of the UN group is a close relative of mine and I know for a fact he's not biased one way or the other.

 Bullcrap.  There was not one military expert on the whole team.  All civilians.  That's what Isreal is objecting to.  So instead of making a ballance investigation team kofi anus disbands the team.  You know this way they can perpetuate the Jenin lies for a long time.  What a squealing farce.  But by all means just ignore the palestinian official who backs up Isreal's claims and who even goes as far to admit that some of the civilians were killed by palestinian booby traps.

 There is one side in this conflict that wants the other side dead.  There is another side in this conflict that has had the power (for years) to totaly destroy the other side.  Isreal has chosen not to destroy the pals and to deal with arafat on many many many occassions.  Each and every time arafat has broken his word and killed more Isreali civilians, each and every time  what's so squealing hard to understand about that?  Do you think for a second that if arafat had what Isreal has that there would still be Jews in Isreal?  Their bodies would be there, but lifeless.

 The UN mission was to pin "yet another massacre" on Isreal, when Isreal has in actuality committed NO massacres.  They always act in self defence.  You can sit there and ignore all the facts of the past 50 years but I wont.  As soon as Isreal said to the UN that the fact finding team must be ballanced the UN cancels the investigation.  What a squealing HUGE joke the sad part is that so many people around the world still buy into this type of tactic.


 Arafat is free now,  I'd be willing to bet that the homicide bombings start up again within a week or 2.

[Elfenwolf]

(small-sounding voice from under the refergerator) Well, I don't know about you humans, but us cockroaches eat a lot better when there's a war going on.

[Wingnut_0]

Now it's a UN conspiracy against the jews!  Granted that at one time or another everyone in the world has tried doing away with them, but even the US backed this team to go in.

Let me guess Udie, the UN is out to take over America too.

[dawvgriid]

Arafat is free now, I'd be willing to bet that the homicide bombings start up again within a week or 2.


Maybe so.Or maybe an israelic soldier accidently hit some innocent palistinien,who just got in the way.
Or maybe their isn`t any innocent Palistiniens?,,,they are all bloodthirsty bastards??.

[Dowding]

Not wanting to piss all over your bonfire of all knowing enlightenment, Udie, but this constant 'the UN is biased' whine is a little tiresome. For one thing, a UN resolution created Israel in the first place. Or does your knowledge not stretch that far back in time?

Now, the Jenin action was condemned by Israel's staunchest ally, the US. Yet you still insist Israel was in the right?

In reference to the 'military advisors' - why do you need them to count bodies? I think it was more a question of Israel snubbing the UN at any cost, over the slightest issue.

Finally, what you singly fail to understand, Udie, is that Israel has to tread carefully in respect to US opinion. It can't go in hard (although I'm sure people like Sharon would be positively orgasmic at the prospect), because that would upset the US and Israel relies on the US for its existence. Consequently, nuking the West Bank would be a bad move.

Instead it pursues a course of settlement and containment to achieve lebensraum.

[10Bears]

Oh you can Kadoura Mousa me anytime baby!!!

Say Undie, you goin' to the Reverend Moon's mass wedding?

[Eagler]

In public, what else are they suppose to say if they ever want Arab support on anything?

"Yet you still insist Israel was in the right?"

Yes, I do. Who are we to say what is right for their country. It seems to have stopped the bombing, for now. If the bombing starts up, they have the right to go back in and stomp some more Pal arse.

[weazel]

Originally posted by Eagler
In public, what else are they suppose to say if they ever want Arab support on anything?

Chimpy panders to who/whatever gives him the most political or financial capital....a great president isn't he?

The biggest part of him ran down his mommas leg.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Eagler
"Yet you still insist Israel was in the right?"

Yes, I do. Who are we to say what is right for their country. It seems to have stopped the bombing, for now. If the bombing starts up, they have the right to go back in and stomp some more Pal arse.

 Eagler,

 You can't bring facts into the argument. Well unless you want to be insulted you can't.  The terrorist/murderer supporters hate it when you do that!  The facts must be ignored!!


 Anybody see arafat's rant last night?  That dude is in some bad shape.  Maybe we'll get lucky and his parkensans (sp?) will cure the problem for us.

[Eaglecz]

Originally posted by Tac
36 people is a massacre?

What a bunch of softies.

naaa its only joke like 11 sep

[Wingnut_0]

Originally posted by Udie


 
 You can't bring facts into the argument. Well unless you want to be insulted you can't.  

I'm sry, I could of swore your first post was meant to insult and incite some folks to your post.  I'll go back and read it again as I obviously missed the original intent.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Dowding
Not wanting to piss all over your bonfire of all knowing enlightenment, Udie, but this constant 'the UN is biased' whine is a little tiresome. For one thing, a UN resolution created Israel in the first place. Or does your knowledge not stretch that far back in time?

Answer:  Yes..they created the MODERN State of Israel...the nation of Israel existed long before the UN, or any Western nation.

And why did the UN do this?  Because THE WORLD finally recognised the need after the Second World War.

Now, the Jenin action was condemned by Israel's staunchest ally, the US. Yet you still insist Israel was in the right?

Answer:  The US condemed it because it was thought to be a massacre of hundreds, as "reported" by Arafats spin doctors.

In reference to the 'military advisors' - why do you need them to count bodies? I think it was more a question of Israel snubbing the UN at any cost, over the slightest issue.

Answer:  Clearly the Palestinians can't count.  What makes you think the UN can do any better?

As far as your second comment goes...why is it that the Palestininans do not have their own country right now?  Becuase the Palestininans have rejected "out of hand" every offer that they have been given.  Why?  Becuase that would end the conflict...and certain elements in their support base will simply not give in until Israel is destroyed.

Finally, what you singly fail to understand, Udie, is that Israel has to tread carefully in respect to US opinion. It can't go in hard (although I'm sure people like Sharon would be positively orgasmic at the prospect), because that would upset the US and Israel relies on the US for its existence. Consequently, nuking the West Bank would be a bad move.

Answer:  eeeeks...you were doing so well here...until....

Instead it pursues a course of settlement and containment to achieve lebensraum.

Answer:  THIS...

The use of this term is sickening in refernce to Israel.  It is both unfair and frankly disgusting.  That term was used to justify the Nazi invasion of Eastern Europe and it's use here is simply a blantant attempt to antagonise.  

[Wingnut_0]

Curval,

The only state of Isreal that matters at the moment is the "Modern" one that he was referring to.  

I'll join with Udie at this juncture that the UN probably created it there with all those hostile neighbors in some ironic attempt to actually get rid of them. (tongue in cheek)