Originally posted by J_A_B
"It's no different than the Luftwaffe."
The SS and in particular the Waffen SS was the child of Himmler just as the Luftwaffe was the child of Goering........
Hitlers "henchmen" were always jealous of each others power and wanted to create units within the armed forces loyal to them Himmler developed the Waffen SS for this purpose....whilst working within the chain of command of the whermacht their loyalties were not to the whermacht .
Latterly Goebbels too created his own fighting units with his Police battalions...... these units were directly responsible for the annialation of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians across Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and (in particular) the Ukraine..... they were mercilessly hunted by Red Army units and Partisans during the retreat of 44/45.
In fact the most outstanding atrocity of the Waffen SS occurred in France where a whole village was massacred on the suspision that it harboured resistance fighters. The Waffen SS enjoyed the best of provisions and resources/logistics often getting material originally bound for heavily pressed units elsewhere on the front. There is no doubt however that they were an elite group of fighters who played a decisive and often pivitol role in many eastern fron battles.
We draw very subtle distinctions here between what is and is not brought to our game from the original history...............
Drawing some sort of imaginary line to say that every thing over it is inherently evil and every thing before it is inherently good is a great misnomer.............
However it will be true that what is acceptable to some will not be to others....................
....................... as long as the politics and atrocities of Nazi Europe are remembered and guarded against elsewhere I see no reason to bring them into this game...either as chat on channel 1 or as a method of deciding who can have what handle.............