Heil Intolerance

[capt. apathy]

For those doubting the 'gay at birth' theory, can they tell me why anyone would choose to be gay?

why would anybody choose any self destructive or deviant behavior?

who chooses to be an adict?  what about these kids who cut themselves or otherwise inflict pain on themselves.  what about lonely kids who display anti-social behavior?  they don't make a conscius choice to be gay but they do make choices.  although most people would say that these other behaviors would be the cause of some situation or traumatic incedent in their past.  but homosexuality is suposed to be the one (non-physicly caused) mental abnormality that 'just happens',  it's a 'special' case.  why?  

why? do we try to 'cure' suicidal kids?  why not just accept that they where 'born that way', and let them get to it?  why do we try to treat all these other mental deviations but homosexuality is a hands off issue?

  the more socially exceptable it is the easier it will be for kids to make these wrong choices.  instead of trying to help them or at least tell them it is not exceptible, why does the PC crowd say we should be cheering them on?  if some suicidal kid is out on a ledge and you scream "JUMP! JUMP! JUMP!", then your an a-hole.  but that's what the politically corect thing to do is when the mental abnormality is homosexuality.

[midnight Target]

Until someone decides to actually read the evidence I posted I am out of here. Try dealing with solid issues instead of feelings for a minute.

[capt. apathy]

read it and was unimpressed.

not surprised to find that this is the opinion put out on a sight called    http://www.religioustolerance.org, ran by "Onterio consultants on Religious Tolerance"  .  would seem to me they have an agenda.  not exactly an unbiased clinical report.

[Fatty]

I think you should let them jump.

[Curval]

YIKES..with a capital Y

Please explain who this character is and exactly what he stands for.

[capt. apathy]

scarey stuff.  as to who he is, I have no idea.  he apears to be another deviants rights advocate, preaching on his version of tolorance.

[Torque]

It's ok you can come out, gay is ok today.

[Curval]

Originally posted by capt. apathy
scarey stuff.  as to who he is, I have no idea.  he apears to be another deviants rights advocate, preaching on his version of tolorance.

Don't you recognise him?

Dr. Ralph Underwager, M. Div,. Ph.D.,

See Rude's post.

[capt. apathy]

if he was quoted fairly in the link you posted, he's got some scarey ideas.  

of course just because he's a freak doesn't mean he's wrong on all issues.

for example your freind.  from your description an outstanding human being, with a huge problem on just one issue.

[Thrawn]

If homosexual behaviour is learned, can someone please explain why it exists in other species?  And why it would be caused by genetics in at least on mammalian species, as has been scientifically proven, and not in humans?



"Gay Sheep" Study
Offers Intriguing Prenatal Hormonal Link
By Linda Ames Nicolosi
Nov. 7, 2002 -- A study announced November 4th by a research team at Oregon Health Sciences University has investigated the brain structures of a group of rams that mate only with other rams.

Working at the US Department of Agriculture's Sheep Experiment Station in Idaho, the study's lead researcher, Dr. Charles Roselli, observed that some rams only mount other rams, not ewes. They don't actually pair-bond with these other rams like normal rams do with ewes. However, their sexual attraction is strictly same-sex.

Intrigued by this anomaly, the scientists dissected the "gay" rams' brains and found that their hypothalamus was female-like in size. Roselli believes that abnormal prenatal hormonal exposure of these rams' brains may have caused them to develop in a sex-atypical manner."

http://www.narth.com/docs/sheep.html

[Mini D]

How does dowding fit into all this?  Should he be accepted for what he is?  Should he be treated as a pariah?  Will he ever get into heaven?

MiniD

[Sandman]

Hell... let's make him a Bishop...

[moose]

This argument is silly.

Society is changing and you're going to have to accept gay and lesbian rights whether you agree with them or not. I bet in a decade homosexual marriages will be just as common as heterosexual ones, and there's NOTHING you can do about it.

Marriage hasn't really been about religion for years. If you bible thumpers really wanted to get that picky about it, then the right way to go about it would be to say that being 'MARRIED' applies only to good Catholic/Islamic whatever male/female couples. However 'partners' would apply to gays/lesbians.............and the millions upon millions of people who do not practice any religion of any kind. What about those who were never christened at birth? What about all the sinners in the world who have never been to confessional? What about divorce?

Marriage is too broad a term now.

What I find funny is that so many Catholics preach about how wrong being homosexual is, when I'm pretty sure that if there is a God up there he'd rather see us all getting along. Doesn't the Bible preach peace and good will upon man? I'm sure that those who live a life hate towards gays won't exactly get a free pass into heaven when they get to the pearly gates.

Oh, by the way, I am a confirmed Catholic. I'm also very straight - but I'm not narrow minded.

[fffreeze220]

I think the catholic church burned some witches in my Hometown last week.

[Thrawn]

Shamelessly stolen from Fatbat on agw, who copied it from elsewhere.

Passing strange that some people only follow the "word of God" when it suits their bigotry.


"Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the
odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around me. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have
to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. "


What about another Leviticus.

Leviticus 19:18, "Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.".

Or how about.

Matthew 7:1, "Judge not, that ye be not judged.".