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Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2003, 10:50:10 AM »
"I don't think I'm alone in noticing that the folks praising FesterMA do so in terms of "number of kills" and/or kills per hour - but those are stats which arise primarily from vulching. If that's your fun, then enjoy when you can."

Again beet1e pulls out the "broad brush" and takes a big swipe.

Most of the "furballers" that participate in these threads and have been requesting the likes of the FesterMA map are not into vulching. The stats (you can check mine) are for the most part Air-2-Air stats.

You see ... "vulching" is not "the fight", so that is not what we seek. Those that are vulching on FesterMA are the same ones that seek vulching opportunities on all maps.

I do have to admit that if the furball gets pushed over a field, and someone wants to up ... I will ... umm ... shoot him down.
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« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2003, 10:53:28 AM »
"Oh wait, this *game* doesn't have anything to do with WW2 any more, as Blue Mako reminded us."

Then I guess you and Blue Make will have tons of fun when AH II : TOD is available. Maybe you two can wing together and chat while trying to find something to do.
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« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2003, 10:57:03 AM »
Furballs are completely strat driven. They start when a plane goes to attack another field and meets some resistance half way, and begins fighting. Fighters start to pile up and viola, a furball is born. THAT'S when you have people with rediculously short attention spans upping with the soul purpose of fighting and hopefully getting thier name in lights. The furball is just a by-product of strat, and if the furball was the reason for people originally flying over to an enemy base, there wouldn't be vulching. All the furballers would keep a safe distance fro the field to get a fair fight.. right?

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« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2003, 11:01:00 AM »
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Then I guess you and Blue Make will have tons of fun when AH II : TOD is available. Maybe you two can wing together and chat while trying to find something to do.


yes, they can plot the best way to use their mad skillz to take on those nasty AI planes and congratulate each other for their skill in dispatching them afterwards and bask in the adulation of the AI buff drones they've helped get to bomb a target that has no impact on anything being a set piece to set piece game.
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« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2003, 11:16:07 AM »
Unlike you, Shane, we give a watermelon about historical WW2 combat.. ;)

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« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2003, 11:18:58 AM »
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Unlike you, Shane, we give a watermelon about historical WW2 combat.. ;)


so that explains why i see you (all) in the CT so much.

:rolleyes:
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« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2003, 11:21:57 AM »
The CT is nothing more than the MA with a rolling planeset, or a glorified DA.. no incentive to capture fields.. strat is disabled..

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« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2003, 11:26:41 AM »
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The CT is nothing more than the MA with a rolling planeset, or a glrofied DA.. no incentive to capture fields.. strat is disabled.. glorified DA


but, but... you get the historical matchups! and there are those like minded seals who arp like you do there.

you think there's gonna be field capture or impact on the strat bomb runs in ToD? but you can bet it'll be a rolling planeset (once they get enough planes to roll with).

an arena is what people make it.  come to the CT, bring your elite historical buddies with you and show me you actually know how to run a mission of some sort - and do it properly.

yah, right, as if, lol.....
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« Reply #68 on: October 13, 2003, 11:30:57 AM »
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an arena is what people make it.  come to the CT, bring your elite historical buddies with you and show me you actually know how to run a mission of some sort - and do it properly.

yah, right, as if, lol.....


I'de like to see you do that very thing, But no, if it requires a bigger attention span than what's needed for CounterStrike or quake it's a nono, right?

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« Reply #69 on: October 13, 2003, 11:37:18 AM »
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I'de like to see you do that very thing, But no, if it requires a bigger attention span than what's needed for CounterStrike or quake it's a nono, right?


i have done so. you'd be surprised at how well i can effectively escort and stay on task, as well as tasking other elements of the mission.  when i want to.
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« Reply #70 on: October 13, 2003, 11:38:43 AM »
As one who dabbles in both furballing and flying to live, I cannot begin to fathom why everyone isn't thrilled w/ Fester's map.
I realize that my "fly to survive" style isn't really as literal as Mako's and others(I rarely take my "fight to survive" plane over 10-12k these days, but I can spot the Blue Mako types in their 20-25k ponies/D9s/G10s)
This map is a furballer's dream fulfilled.
This map is a BnZ'ers paradise.  What more is there to ask for than constant fights that provide endless targets and possibilities?

I can see why strat weenies would hate the Fester map, they can no longer squelch the fun of others by sinking cv's and porking fuel.  But let's face it, the strat weenies that complain the most about Fester are sick minded bastards who get their enjoyment from ruining the fun of others.  Hear their laments about Festerland, and rejoice.
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« Reply #71 on: October 13, 2003, 11:40:19 AM »
Shane, help me understand something here.. Do you feel people that would enjoy the TOD style of gameplay are less legitimate, less important, or inferior to you?

If so, why do you feel the overwelming urge to criticize and judge one's gameplay preference?

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« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2003, 11:44:17 AM »
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I can see why strat weenies would hate the Fester map, they can no longer squelch the fun of others by sinking cv's and porking fuel.  But let's face it, the strat weenies that complain the most about Fester are sick minded bastards who get their enjoyment from ruining the fun of others.  Hear their laments about Festerland, and rejoice.


Is it so hard for people to fathom that peole may just enjoy bombing?

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« Reply #73 on: October 13, 2003, 11:44:28 AM »
Yah, it is amazing to me that all these dedicated WWII historical aviation afficianados can't seem to find the CT.

After all, that was one of the specific purposes and goals of the CT; historical matchups in an especially dedicated arena run by the players not the HTC management team.

Yet, gosh... all these dedicated WWII historical aviation afficianados can't seem to find it.

And as for "low numbers", well, gosh.. if the all these dedicated WWII historical aviation afficianados  were so numerous in the player population, the numbers wouldn't be low would they? All those afficianados would be in the CT, not the MA.


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« Reply #74 on: October 13, 2003, 11:45:42 AM »
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Shane, help me understand something here.. Do you feel people that would enjoy the TOD style of gameplay are less legitimate, less important, or inferior to you?

If so, why do you feel the overwelming urge to criticize and judge one's gameplay preference?


not at all...  and ToD is gonna be the place to enjoy it.  CT is too, to an extent, as are scenarios and events; it even has it's place in the MA. however... i think it's the fact that i see guys like *you* and beet1e slamming what you think is inferior style of gameplay. i love knocking people off high horses.

i love the smell of burning hypocricy in the morning, mr-perk-the-palnes-i-can't-fly-well-or-get-shot-down-by-them-too-often-or-there's-too-many-of-them-in-the-skies.

let he without sin cast the first flame and all that...

festerMA is a damn fine map that allows many types of game play for many types of game players.  the same can't be said for certain other maps.
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