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Title: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Wolfala on July 05, 2021, 04:24:35 PM
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/beebo-russell-seattle-plane-theft-true-story-1187023/
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 07, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
This story just makes no since to me. A married man, who just graduated Cum Luade a year before in 2017 and wanted to be in the military or law enforcement. Also grew up wanting to be in the military. Article said he was in a evangelical Christian group in college. Not sure why would still be in this job position after graduating with a bachelor's degree Cum Laude. Everyone is speculating that he flew sims, but is there actual evidence? He said he played video games. So do I, an airplane game.. doesn't mean I can take off a Q400 and fly it.. Did they ask his wife? Said he looked thru manuals, but that takes some serious study. The guy said before that he caught Beebo and guy "flipping switches" in a plane before. That should have been an instant firing. But if he was just flipping switches then, he didn't know what he was doing. He would have learned how to take off and fly the plane after that time. This would be hard to do while studying in college and getting a bachelor's degree Cum Laude.

The story is just so shady to me. He was flying for over an hour. This article claims the fbi said he pushed the nose down and crashed on purpose. Just doesn't seem right from a man who "fears god" as the article likes to claim. Then you have Ketron Island. Which was owned by a wealthy guy who hated the president. I just think its strange he chose to crash there out of all of the islands and places.

Idk.... just a very strange story all around.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 07, 2021, 04:22:49 PM
well he himself said on the radio "broken guy, got a few screws loose, I guess"

there was a thread here back then, where they were trying to figure out if he was a player, he wasn't.

semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 07, 2021, 04:43:30 PM
here's the audio, not sure if the video is from the plane, it appears to be




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DstWZY_eUOc


not everything has to make sense to you violator.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Vulcan on July 07, 2021, 05:57:13 PM
This story just makes no since to me. A married man, who just graduated Cum Luade a year before in 2017 and wanted to be in the military or law enforcement. Also grew up wanting to be in the military. Article said he was in a evangelical Christian group in college. Not sure why would still be in this job position after graduating with a bachelor's degree Cum Laude.

Cum Laude... heheheheheheheh...
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: mechanic on July 07, 2021, 06:39:35 PM
If you're going to suicide then not a bad way to go. Obviously they shot him down after their patients reached it's limit.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Eviscerate on July 07, 2021, 06:55:34 PM
Obviously they shot him down after their patients reached it's limit.
Source?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: JimmyD3 on July 07, 2021, 10:31:20 PM
If you're going to suicide then not a bad way to go. Obviously they shot him down after their patients reached it's limit.

 :rofl Newest conspiracy theory to date.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 07, 2021, 11:16:31 PM
:rofl Newest conspiracy theory to date.


which contradicts his own words, even the f16 pilots were amazed he recovered from the barrel roll.

semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 08, 2021, 12:10:39 AM

which contradicts his own words, even the f16 pilots were amazed he recovered from the barrel roll.

semp

I surely felt a whole lot safer on the Q400 I flew on last weekend because of what that thing pulled off. 😆

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 08, 2021, 12:37:31 AM
I surely felt a whole lot safer on the Q400 I flew on last weekend because of what that thing pulled off. 😆

go on YouTube and search for the fed ex airplane that the pilot actually turned upside down several times to stop a man from bringing it down.

the plane landed, even though all crew had been hit in the head with a hammer.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Maverick on July 08, 2021, 09:03:45 AM
Some folks are just not all there even though to others they seem to be fine. The article, rambling mish mash of words that it is, seems to hint at childhood depression that he never got over. Pity he had to act out in this way.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 08, 2021, 10:15:59 AM
Some folks are just not all there even though to others they seem to be fine. The article, rambling mish mash of words that it is, seems to hint at childhood depression that he never got over. Pity he had to act out in this way.

Yeah, it was all over the place. Their excuse was football head trauma. The question is tho, did he have medical records on that? Did his wife say he was acting funny? My other question is. They keep referring to the point that he wanted to be in the military or law enforcement. Did he ever try to join the military? Did they deny him? Like why do they keep mentioning that if he never went to the military to sign up? Especially a guy who just graduated with a bachelor's. So that's what is strange to me. Also, the audio of him just doesn't sound like a guy who is flying and pulling insane Gs without really know what he is doing.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 08, 2021, 11:48:57 AM
Yeah, it was all over the place. Their excuse was football head trauma. The question is tho, did he have medical records on that? Did his wife say he was acting funny? My other question is. They keep referring to the point that he wanted to be in the military or law enforcement. Did he ever try to join the military? Did they deny him? Like why do they keep mentioning that if he never went to the military to sign up? Especially a guy who just graduated with a bachelor's. So that's what is strange to me. Also, the audio of him just doesn't sound like a guy who is flying and pulling insane Gs without really know what he is doing.

dude, it could be a simple as he wanted to fly airplanes and his job allowed him to turn on some instruments.

a few years back, I went to a local airshow.  they had a spitfire there, and one of the pigs actually helped restore the plane. I was talking to him on the other side of a 5 foot fence, the plane was parked maybe 10 yards away.  for a few seconds my thought was to jump the fence and j just touch the plane, maybe look inside. but i didn't. i knew I would go to jail.

and that's how simple it is. why the guy took the airplane can't be answered and we'll never know the answer. but the fact is he did.

semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: mechanic on July 08, 2021, 02:46:07 PM
The audio displays every sign that he was a man who had accepted his own death and was having one last bit of fun with zero intentions of paying the consequences of his actions other than a final lights out.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Oldman731 on July 08, 2021, 08:48:46 PM
The audio displays every sign that he was a man who had accepted his own death and was having one last bit of fun with zero intentions of paying the consequences of his actions other than a final lights out.


Yup.

Shows you can learn a lot from computer sims, though!

- oldman
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Chalenge on July 08, 2021, 09:37:49 PM
Just wait, it's only a matter of time before 'realistic' aircraft mods are limited in fidelity by law.

Eventually, you won't be able to boil lobster, or use barbed hooks while fishing . . .
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 08, 2021, 10:41:19 PM
Just wait, it's only a matter of time before 'realistic' aircraft mods are limited in fidelity by law.

Eventually, you won't be able to boil lobster, or use barbed hooks while fishing . . .

why would you boil lobster?  grill taste better


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Chalenge on July 09, 2021, 01:28:23 AM
why would you boil lobster?  grill taste better


semp

I don't eat anything that looks like a giant bug, especially knowing what those nasty things eat!
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 09, 2021, 01:36:59 AM
I don't eat anything that looks like a giant bug, especially knowing what those nasty things eat!

we not in the 80's, it nicely trim now.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Spikes on July 09, 2021, 07:31:18 AM
Just wait, it's only a matter of time before 'realistic' aircraft mods are limited in fidelity by law.

Eventually, you won't be able to boil lobster, or use barbed hooks while fishing . . .
We need a tin foil hat emoji
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 09, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
My problem is that these articles make all of these claims without any proof or backup information. It just seems like a total cover story to me. Beyond DCS, only Microsoft flight simulator would allow him to learn how to power the aircraft, taxi out, and then take off. I still don't even know if you could know all of the buttons to press while playing MFS. Simply reading a flight manual without practicing on the aircraft would be very challenging. I'm still wondering
What his wife said about his actual video game usage.

One thing that really puzzles me is that he had no reaction to that roll he did, almost eating it there. You'd think he would have over hyped or been exilerated after doing that but his emotions or voice never changes. It's strange. Like in the audio he says he threw up a good bit, but was that before he did the barrel roll? it's very hard to tell.

It's just weird that the story says he wanted to join the military since high school, but did he never signed up? I just dont get it. Not something a "God fearing" good man would do after being In a college church group and graduating with honors.

Also, if you look at most head trauma cases from football, you will see things like massive headaches that make a guy super angry and violent. Its physical pain that they feel that makes them angry and want to end it and hurt people. The way he is taking there is not head trauma pain. The way he is talking there is like a guy who just lost his mind and didn't care.

I'm just having a hard time buying this story honestly.

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 09, 2021, 12:39:46 PM
violator, I would like to know what your wife says about your time playing aces high.

not sure why you think everything is a conspiracy to you. did you read the article or heard the tower recording, I guess you didn't because you ask a question that was already answered.

what kind of reaction did you expect? crying like a little girl, screaming I don't want to die, is that what you wanted? or perhaps throwing up on himself and saying I thought that was it, which he did.

also you ignore the fact that in his job he already knew how to turn on some instruments. he also took off with the brakes on. which another pilot mentioned.

also you ignore the fact that at the beginning his voice was optimistic, he was having fun. at the end it changed when he realized if he landed he was gonna go to jail for a long time.  so he decided to end his life.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 09, 2021, 01:39:38 PM
violator, I would like to know what your wife says about your time playing aces high.

not sure why you think everything is a conspiracy to you. did you read the article or heard the tower recording, I guess you didn't because you ask a question that was already answered.

what kind of reaction did you expect? crying like a little girl, screaming I don't want to die, is that what you wanted? or perhaps throwing up on himself and saying I thought that was it, which he did.

also you ignore the fact that in his job he already knew how to turn on some instruments. he also took off with the brakes on. which another pilot mentioned.

also you ignore the fact that at the beginning his voice was optimistic, he was having fun. at the end it changed when he realized if he landed he was gonna go to jail for a long time.  so he decided to end his life.


semp

My wife would say I play too much  :D

It's a conspiracy because the story doesn't make sense and I need more information.

I have looked into this far more than the average cat who just reads an article and goes with it. I have read this article and others, I did listen to the recording but it just doesn't match what he was capable of pulling off in that plane.

I would expect to hear like "HOLY CRAP DID YOU ALL SEE THAT ROLL I JUST DID WOW THAT WAS INTENSE. something like that. Like some enthusiasm for the maneuvers he was pulling. Imagine the amount of Gs he pulled doing that.

I did not ignore any "facts". Where does it prove that he knew how to turn on certain instruments. "He read a manual once' doesn't prove it to me. Plus a year earlier his boss said he was "flipping switches" so that means he didn't know what he was doing then. Therefore he learned how to start and take off a freaking jet within a year or so, while being a very good student in college and being apart of a church group.

The tone of his voice never changed to me. I noticed 0 emotional changes in his voice. It was consistent the entire time. He even mocked one of the guys and asked if he had authority to ask him to land somewhere....

Sounds like a good cover story to me. All I'm saying.

WHY DIDNT HE JOIN THE MILITARY IF THE ARTICLE MAKES SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT. WHY DIDNT HE JOIN THE POLICE FORCE?

Why do they play him off as being a great lovable guy who fears god.

There is nothing there that suggests he was mentally unstable in his past. Nothing that says he was depressed. Nothing that implies he would break the law.

I believe he did join the military,  this was his mission to be the fall guy and help with the recording, and this was a cover story to take out something on Ketron Island. There is my "conspiracy theory" for you.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 09, 2021, 02:19:21 PM
And there it is……..lol

It was only 3 years ago next month when you knew more about the underlying intent of this incident than the rest of us. Yet here we are again…..

Where did Skuzzy put  that padlock????
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 09, 2021, 02:53:01 PM
cover story for what violator?


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 09, 2021, 03:36:40 PM
And there it is……..lol

It was only 3 years ago next month when you knew more about the underlying intent of this incident than the rest of us. Yet here we are again…..

Where did Skuzzy put  that padlock????

Always gotta take the fun out of everything eh?

cover story for what violator?


semp

Idk, but there was a missile that was shot off at Airforce one from somewhere over there near one of those islands. Not sure if connected or not.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 09, 2021, 06:33:58 PM
I think it's more along the lines of a long hidden issue than some other reason that would require a cover up.
People are often found to be hiding their issues until after the moment they finally crack.
The mind can only go untreated for so long.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 09, 2021, 08:19:35 PM


Idk, but there was a missile that was shot off at Airforce one from somewhere over there near one of those islands. Not sure if connected or not.

ever heard of the kiss principle?  keep it simple stoopid.

so there was a missile fired at airforce one, well airforce one was not there.  you do know they call it airforce one only when the president is in the plane.  anyway, so a missile was fired at airforce one.  ok.

well since trump was at bedminster new jersey from august 4 to the 13.  I would say that must have been a really, really, long range missile.  not sure how far tacoma is from new jersey, but I would say it's pretty far.  more than a couple of miles.  I actually looked it up in the map, it's about 11 inches on my 29 inch monitor. not sure how that translates to miles but I would say waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay moooooooooooooooooreeeee than 10.

now in the month of august trump was always more than 11 inches away from the seatle/tacoma airport, according to my monitor.  well give or take a few inches if I zoom in or out.  my guesstimate is anywhere from 7 to as much as 16 inches difference.  again according to how I zoom in or out.  sorry I have arthritis on my fingers.

how can a missile fired from seatle/tacoma area reach new jersey.  I would like you to explain that.

again use the kiss principle.  because I have researched where trump was on that day and where the plane that crashed was.



semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 09, 2021, 08:40:57 PM
ever heard of the kiss principle?  keep it simple stoopid.

so there was a missile fired at airforce one, well airforce one was not there.  you do know they call it airforce one only when the president is in the plane.  anyway, so a missile was fired at airforce one.  ok.

well since trump was at bedminster new jersey from august 4 to the 13.  I would say that must have been a really, really, long range missile.  not sure how far tacoma is from new jersey, but I would say it's pretty far.  more than a couple of miles.  I actually looked it up in the map, it's about 11 inches on my 29 inch monitor. not sure how that translates to miles but I would say waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay moooooooooooooooooreeeee than 10.

now in the month of august trump was always more than 11 inches away from the seatle/tacoma airport, according to my monitor.  well give or take a few inches if I zoom in or out.  my guesstimate is anywhere from 7 to as much as 16 inches difference.  again according to how I zoom in or out.  sorry I have arthritis on my fingers.

how can a missile fired from seatle/tacoma area reach new jersey.  I would like you to explain that.

again use the kiss principle.  because I have researched where trump was on that day and where the plane that crashed was.



semp

Man, I bet you thought you had me so good 😄.

Let's not get into IT but the president arrived at Singapore on June 10th, which means he was flying the day of the missile, over the Pacific, exactly 60 days before Aug 10th, when the hijack happened.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 09, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
Man, I bet you thought you had me so good 😄.

Let's not get into IT but the president arrived at Singapore on June 10th, which means he was flying the day of the missile, over the Pacific, exactly 60 days before Aug 10th, when the hijack happened.

so the missile was so slow it took 60 days to reach its target?

semp

edit: or did airforce one took 60 days to go back to the usa, just saying cause 2 days before he was in jersey

another edit: so a plane was shot down over the pacific to cover up a missile that was launched at airforce one 60 days before?  we talking back to the future, or what exactly we have here.  cause I can understand an hour or two, but 60 days before?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 09, 2021, 09:35:44 PM
Vio is a crackpot  :old:
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Chalenge on July 09, 2021, 09:55:15 PM
We need a tin foil hat emoji

The U.K. is weighing the 'welfare rights' of crustaceans and mollusks. I'm sure Snail is loving this!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ban-on-boiling-lobsters-alive-under-plans-to-boost-welfare-rights-of-crustaceans-and-molluscs-jpx2whf0v
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Chalenge on July 09, 2021, 10:04:54 PM
You might want to check this out:  https://www.aerosoft.com/us/flight-simulation/prepar3d-v4/aircraft/3178/majestic-software-dash-8-q400-pilot-edition-for-p3d-v4/v5

Great software, accurate startup procedures, and one of my favorite planes. I'm looking forward to an update for MSFS.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 10, 2021, 12:35:36 AM
so the missile was so slow it took 60 days to reach its target?

semp

edit: or did airforce one took 60 days to go back to the usa, just saying cause 2 days before he was in jersey

another edit: so a plane was shot down over the pacific to cover up a missile that was launched at airforce one 60 days before?  we talking back to the future, or what exactly we have here.  cause I can understand an hour or two, but 60 days before?

Are you deliberately trying to act stupid or do you really not comprehend what I am saying?....

They were possibly taking out the missile silo 60 days after it shot at the president flying to Singapore.. FFS man.

Vio is a crackpot  :old:

No, I don't think so. Do more research and understand the matrix you live in.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 10, 2021, 01:18:33 AM
Are you deliberately trying to act stupid or do you really not comprehend what I am saying?....

They were possibly taking out the missile silo 60 days after it shot at the president flying to Singapore.. FFS man.


wait hold, on somebody built a silo in total secrecy, hopping air force 1 would fly over it one day.  so the cover story was somebody stole an airplane and flew over the island 60 days after, and that's the best cover story they could come up with? why build a silo?, you do know we have missiles that can be shoulder fired and take out an airplane?  why not have 10 or 20 guys with a missile on their shoulder?

you do remember the kiss principle dont you?  keep it simple stoopid.  why build a silo?  instead of having, I dont know 20 or 30 guys with shoulder mounted missiles that can be easily posted all along the pacific coast.  why complicate things?

then they waited 60 days to destroy the silo?  why not right away?  why the secret service didnt report it?  why the airforce didn't report a missle?

oh wait they were all into it?  remember the kiss principle?  if the secret service was on it or the airforce why didnt they just use a syringe  to put an air bubble in his neck. heck they could just blame that on a heart attack.

but no,  missile was fired, they faked an airplane hijack, then they used that cover story to destroy a missile silo, 60 days after it happened. why not just say, hey one of our planes dropped a bomb by mistake on a training mission.  hell they have said that many times before.

see how complicated you make it sound, instead of the kiss principle. hey a bomb fell by mistake that's it.  but no, they faked a hijacking, sent f16s up, have video and sound but all of it was a cover story.

who is trying to act stupid?


semp

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Meatwad on July 10, 2021, 01:38:20 AM
I read this thread and seen an UH-60  :noid
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Peanut1 on July 10, 2021, 10:44:59 AM
If you're going to suicide then not a bad way to go. Obviously they shot him down after their patients reached it's limit.
uh, no they did not....I was out salmon fishing and watched it all unfold...some nutty fuqers in here.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 10, 2021, 11:02:58 AM

see how complicated you make it sound, instead of the kiss principle. hey a bomb fell by mistake that's it.  but no, they faked a hijacking, sent f16s up, have video and sound but all of it was a cover story.

who is trying to act stupid?


semp

Actually nothing about this story is simple Semple.

How about this. Show me the video of the guy at the airport hopping into the plane and starting it, taxing it and taking off. That is not simple for a baggage handler. Surely the airport has cameras right?

My story is just as simple stupid as this one. Especially considering there is no evidence of him being emotionally depressed at all. Not even a statement from his wife about it. No statement from friends about it. Nothing suggests he was capable of this and everything suggests he was a great guy who "feared god" and wanted to be in the military but we don't know why he wasn't or didn't go sign up.

Sorry, I just dont take things from media at face value anymore after these last 5 years. All I'm saying is that this could have easily been a retaliation of some sort based on events ecactly 60 day earlier given where it all went down around those islands.

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 10, 2021, 11:29:50 AM
Here's another thing.

We only have 11 minutes of audio. He was in the air for 73 minutes or so. That's over an hour. Where is the rest of the audio? Where is the audio while he was taking off? Where is the audio of traffic control while he was taxiing out unauthorized? Why only 11 minutes?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 10, 2021, 11:57:53 AM
show me the picture of the silo on the island.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 10, 2021, 12:14:40 PM
Here's another thing.

We only have 11 minutes of audio. He was in the air for 73 minutes or so. That's over an hour. Where is the rest of the audio? Where is the audio while he was taking off? Where is the audio of traffic control while he was taxiing out unauthorized? Why only 11 minutes?


here it is

https://youtu.be/NUt-W8Fcpyw


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 10, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
Here's another thing.

We only have 11 minutes of audio. He was in the air for 73 minutes or so. That's over an hour. Where is the rest of the audio? Where is the audio while he was taking off? Where is the audio of traffic control while he was taxiing out unauthorized? Why only 11 minutes?

I agree! What is Youtube hiding???

Why don't they put out what really happened? Why edit the video down to 11 minutes? Where is the information on the missile shoot that happened "60 days" prior?
Is it being suppressed??? - thats suspicious??!! You would think an assassination attempt on a POTUS would make somebodys news channel. Then there is that number 60?? How many times do you ever see that?

Tell us again - about how his name and the de-commissioned submarine are no coincidence! - that was one of my favorites, it will open everybody's eyes.

Or the one about the island with the Silo's on it which is located something like 7 miles west of Joint Base Mchord, and under the Arrival to SeaTac - How did the military, and the people of South Seattle, Tacoma, and the 15 other cities down there miss the construction or better yet the actual missile launch? Thats a lot of people in cahoots with each other and up to no good.

And then there was the White Hats - remote controlling the plane while the "2nd" F15 out of Portland was on the Black Hat mission?
Those were days. . . .when the human mind, fallacy, rumors and misinformation made legendary stories. . . . . . . .lol
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Volron on July 10, 2021, 11:33:45 PM
I read this thread and seen an UH-60  :noid

Mine had the support of a couple of F-16's...   :noid
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 11, 2021, 12:26:22 AM
There are some crazy people playing this game.  If any of you conspiracy whackadoodles had an experience at all in the airline world you'd laugh out loud at how silly you are being.  Go to college, learn to fly, build experience, hire on at an airline, and get back to us then with your conspiracy theories.

I happen to live not too far north of that island.  All that is on it is Douglas Firs, Western Red Cedars, and Hemlocks.  And no they weren't planted by aliens.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 11, 2021, 10:57:13 AM
I agree! What is Youtube hiding???

Why don't they put out what really happened? Why edit the video down to 11 minutes? Where is the information on the missile shoot that happened "60 days" prior?
Is it being suppressed??? - thats suspicious??!! You would think an assassination attempt on a POTUS would make somebodys news channel. Then there is that number 60?? How many times do you ever see that?

Tell us again - about how his name and the de-commissioned submarine are no coincidence! - that was one of my favorites, it will open everybody's eyes.

Or the one about the island with the Silo's on it which is located something like 7 miles west of Joint Base Mchord, and under the Arrival to SeaTac - How did the military, and the people of South Seattle, Tacoma, and the 15 other cities down there miss the construction or better yet the actual missile launch? Thats a lot of people in cahoots with each other and up to no good.

And then there was the White Hats - remote controlling the plane while the "2nd" F15 out of Portland was on the Black Hat mission?
Those were days. . . .when the human mind, fallacy, rumors and misinformation made legendary stories. . . . . . . .lol

Yeah, why would evil be evil?

(https://i.ibb.co/R6Wv0Rp/Screenshot-20210709-134709-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1XxvqFf)
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 11, 2021, 12:19:49 PM
Yeah, why would evil be evil?

(https://i.ibb.co/R6Wv0Rp/Screenshot-20210709-134709-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1XxvqFf)

that picture was taken at 4am local time, airforce one landed in Malaysia 4 hours later. the plane flies at about 600mph. so president was somewhere off the coast of Japan, it's 8k miles from Washington to Malaysia.

so a missile was fired to a target some 5k miles away, it has to be a ballistic missile, wasn't tracked on the west coast, Russia, China,  japan and a few other countries.  norad didn't see it,  hostile countries didn't react. not even gonna include satellites that didn't Track it either.

that would have been some awesome missile that can fly itself over 5k miles trying to hit a moving target.  where did it go? where did the missile crashed.  where are the tracking stations feeding it data.

and more important why did the two ah players around that island didn't see it? and like pointed out, nobody else in the city noticed it either.

but what about the picture? the guy who set up the camera had it to take a picture every 30 or 40 seconds with a 20 second exposure. so the missile was so slow that it stayed on the frame for 20 seconds? remember it's a single frame.

I remember back in the mid 80s, we saw a missile launch somewhere north of Los Angeles, thousands of people saw it and called 911, radio and tv stations. people were scared. it was a missile test from a base north of Los Angeles. the thing only lasted 10 or 15 seconds.

the picture does look like a missile. but a missile won't stay in one frame with a 20 second exposure. it would have looked more like a contrail. just a line.  q got it from an Instagram from the guy who took the picture. called it a missile and here we are.


semp

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 11, 2021, 12:57:10 PM
Thats a great picture of "a" missile launch.

I looked up the Skunk Bay web cam site. Its located just south of Whidbey island Washington. The bay itself is located NE of Hood Canal, and the Bay faces North of the mainland. The guy that runs the cameras has a pretty decent website, with some pretty pictures of the weather and one showing the Northern lights.

Ironically he doesn't show the Ol Missile launch on his website. Of course he must be in on it too??

Oh and one other thing. He has a graphic that shows the orientation of the cameras in relation to the direction of NORTH. His 4 cameras face Northwest, North, NorthEast, and one facing not quite, but almost due East. Considering Ketron Island is located 50+ miles South of Skunk Bay. . . . .How is it those cameras captured the "infamous" missile launch?

(http://skunkbayweather.com/CamOrientation.JPG)
(http://CamOrientation)
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 11, 2021, 01:33:07 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/gt215C5/Screenshot-20210711-112712-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j3NKcFc)

(https://i.ibb.co/bRfLqGZ/Screenshot-20210711-111251-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93M2zdL)

Not saying Ketron was where the missile was shot though.


Go look at Qs post between June 10th and Aug 12th 2018. You will be very surprised. Who do you think took those pics over Asia during that time?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 11, 2021, 02:12:17 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/gt215C5/Screenshot-20210711-112712-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j3NKcFc)

(https://i.ibb.co/bRfLqGZ/Screenshot-20210711-111251-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93M2zdL)

Not saying Ketron was where the missile was shot though.


Go look at Qs post between June 10th and Aug 12th 2018. You will be very surprised. Who do you think took those pics over Asia during that time?

cool picture, but don't several countries in Asia fly that airplane? also Africa, Europe, South America?

also airlines like to put their name on airplanes they own.

here's a video of the clean up on the island, I guess more evidence of people hiding the truth.

https://youtu.be/mkeC9nyvu8U


se m p

edit: actually you did say keytron island on your first post
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 11, 2021, 02:43:00 PM
found the picture, guess who took it violator

https://financialpost.com/transportation/bombardier-inc-selling-30-q400-nextgen-aircraft-to-new-china-airline-in-almost-1-billion-deal


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 11, 2021, 08:30:08 PM
found the picture, guess who took it violator

https://financialpost.com/transportation/bombardier-inc-selling-30-q400-nextgen-aircraft-to-new-china-airline-in-almost-1-billion-deal


semp

No... not that one Semple  :rolleyes:. Just give it a rest. I'm only trying to provide another point of view to this crazy story.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 11, 2021, 08:44:30 PM
No... not that one Semple  :rolleyes:. Just give it a rest. I'm only trying to provide another point of view to this crazy story.

sorry since that's the picture you claim q posted,  I thought I would give you a different point of view.

isn't it funny how that picture was taken 60 months before and you claim the missile still was destroyed 60 days after.

not only that but you backtracked on the location of the silo for a missile that never existed once it was pointed to you the location of the camera. then the plane q posted, you said it was taken by him when in fact it was a picture taken by the manufacturer.

so at what point you gonna acknowledge that q misrepresented both pictures and by that i mean he lied.  or you gonna keep coming back with another useless post.

btw,ql q is the father and son who ran that bb.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 03:07:31 AM
and they made a few bucks off you guys who thought q was really an intelligence officer. if he had been, he would have been fired and outer way before.

let's point some of the things you have posted here before that never became reality:

90k+ secret indictments that hasnt happened.

only 100 people would die of corona virus.

trump doing under cover to find lizard cannibals

should I go on?

semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 12, 2021, 05:58:38 AM
Vio is a crackpot  :old:

Quoted for truth  :lol
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 08:29:37 AM
Stop making crap up I said Semple. You make 0 since.


Quoted for truth  :lol

Fk off loser.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 12, 2021, 08:37:58 AM
IN  :bolt:
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Wolfala on July 12, 2021, 09:12:22 AM
Glad to see my thread has gone into the realm of mental illness....

Thanks for that gentlemen.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 09:33:18 AM
Glad to see my thread has gone into the realm of mental illness....

Thanks for that gentlemen.

What did you expect?

Challenge the "official narrative" and you get ridiculed and mocked by low IQ idiots.

I tried to squash this twice and Semple just goes ahead and continues to make false claims about what I said. it's just pathetic.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 12, 2021, 10:25:28 AM
Glad to see my thread has gone into the realm of mental illness....

Thanks for that gentlemen.

If you guys keep feeding it after midnight............ :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 12, 2021, 12:11:45 PM
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
- Mark Twain
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 01:17:34 PM
I just wanted someone to see Q post from June 10th thru June 12th plus also thru Aug 13th 2018, (the Span of both incidents) and let me know who took those pictures in Asia from the plane the same time the President was there? If those are legit pictures not sourced, than it adds legitimacy to Q being on the inside. If that adds legitimacy, then there is legitimacy that "Beebo" was a deflection in order to use as a distraction while also bringing attention to Ketron Island and its owner. 


But then semp goes and reverse finds the standard pic for the Q400  :rofl


Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 01:45:16 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/gt215C5/Screenshot-20210711-112712-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j3NKcFc)

(https://i.ibb.co/bRfLqGZ/Screenshot-20210711-111251-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93M2zdL)

Not saying Ketron was where the missile was shot though.


Go look at Qs post between June 10th and Aug 12th 2018. You will be very surprised. Who do you think took those pics over Asia during that time?

here's your quote implying q took the picture.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 01:52:04 PM
here's your quote implying q took the picture.


semp

Dude... forreal?  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 02:04:37 PM
Dude... forreal?  :rofl :rofl

for real, why did he called you guys autistic?

and by the way i just typed "pictures of q400 nextgen airplane in Asia" it was the 10th picture to show up linking to the article.

what I haven't figured out is a Type of missile fired by an f16 that can destroy a ballistic missile, which has to be because regular missiles don't fly 5k miles that I know of. not enough fuel.


semp

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 02:38:11 PM
for real, why did he called you guys autistic?

and by the way i just typed "pictures of q400 nextgen airplane in Asia" it was the 10th picture to show up linking to the article.

what I haven't figured out is a Type of missile fired by an f16 that can destroy a ballistic missile, which has to be because regular missiles don't fly 5k miles that I know of. not enough fuel.


semp


You obviously didn't do what I asked and look at the actual Q posts because I'm not talking about a Q400 in Asia LOL... Jesus man.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 02:45:19 PM

You obviously didn't do what I asked and look at the actual Q posts because I'm not talking about a Q400 in Asia LOL... Jesus man.

I can't look at them, don't know where they are. why don't you post them, shouldn't be too hard to find.  the stock picture q posted, which you posted here took me 10 seconds.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 03:37:08 PM
Start with these... remember this was when the president  was flying in Singapore.

https://qalerts.app/?n=1441
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 04:31:52 PM
Start with these... remember this was when the president  was flying in Singapore.

https://qalerts.app/?n=1441

don't understand those are pictures of cities, thought you were gonna post pictures of the missile being destroyed or perhaps I don't know people concerned.

are you trying q was in airforce one? because pictures don't prove that.  one appears to be by somebody sightseeing around the city.  hard to believe an intelligence officer on a high level trip out of the country had time to look around the city.   


semp

btw on the way to Malaysia, airforce one refueled on an airforce base in Greece.  but pretty sure q knew about it. you know where Greece is right?  :devil
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 04:42:28 PM
don't understand those are pictures of cities, thought you were gonna post pictures of the missile being destroyed or perhaps I don't know people concerned.

are you trying q was in airforce one? because pictures don't prove that.  one appears to be by somebody sightseeing around the city.  hard to believe an intelligence officer on a high level trip out of the country had time to look around the city.   


semp

btw on the way to Malaysia, airforce one refueled on an airforce base in Greece.  but pretty sure q knew about it. you know where Greece is right?  :devil

Reverse image those pics and let me know who took them.

Taken the same time the President was there.














Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 05:14:13 PM
Reverse image those pics and let me know who took them.

Taken the same time the President was there.

probably someone on Instagram who was a tourist at the same time. on the bottom picture you can read the words don't lean on the glass. etched on the glass.  it's from an observation point. those can't be tracked to a specific individual or prove that is only one.

these are facts: trump was in canada June 9, from there he flew west, refueled in Greece and went on to Malaysia.

he was nowhere the west coast, only a ballistic missile has the range to hit a plane thousands of miles away.  hard to imagine a citizen could build one or  smuggle one into the usa, much less build a missile silo.



semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: hazmatt on July 12, 2021, 05:19:51 PM
much less build a missile silo.

You don't need no stinking silo!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-2PM_Topol
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 05:33:45 PM
You don't need no stinking silo!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-2PM_Topol

yeah but the bogus claim says a silo was destroyed 60 days after :)

semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 05:53:20 PM
probably someone on Instagram who was a tourist at the same time. on the bottom picture you can read the words don't lean on the glass. etched on the glass.  it's from an observation point. those can't be tracked to a specific individual or prove that is only one.

these are facts: trump was in canada June 9, from there he flew west, refueled in Greece and went on to Malaysia.

he was nowhere the west coast, only a ballistic missile has the range to hit a plane thousands of miles away.  hard to imagine a citizen could build one or  smuggle one into the usa, much less build a missile silo.



semp

False. They can be reversed imaged to the source of the picture...

If these are original pictures. What does that tell you about Q? If that tells you Q is near Trump on the Trip, then Q is very sophisticated. If Q is very sophisticated, then that means they are telling you straight up that Beebo was a distraction.

But see, you don't believe a missile can be shot by evil players, and you don't believe a F16 can take down a missile. And you don't believe the military would take it out.

But then, I don't believe a bag handler who just graduated and had no history of violence with no actual flying experience and no serious depression issues or anything, who also wanted to join law enforcement or the military, but no other story on that. Took off a started a plane, taxied the plane, took off the plane, and then did a barrel roll among other maneuvers while remaining calm and collected the entire time with no emotions in his voice at all.

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2021, 06:14:39 PM
would be impressed if q took the pictures proving they were taken from inside airforce one. otherwise they were pictures taken from anybody flying commercial. like I said before, one of the pictures was taken from an observation point, so that points to tourists.  high level intelligence officer don't travel around with the president sightseeing.  specially on a high level meeting like that one.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 12, 2021, 07:26:38 PM
Man I just can't believe how willing some of you are to buy into conspiracies.  A Dash 8 simply doesn't have the destructive force to destroy a missile silo.  There would be plenty of silo bits and pieces lying around.  And if it was an actual built into the ground silo it would all still be intact.  That island is really close to one of the busiest north to south interstates in the country.  Lots of traffic to see a missile going up in the air.  Not to mention Tacoma is right there.  It' a pretty big city with plenty of people out and about even at 0400.  If you want to see how destructive a Dash 8 crash can be then Google the Buffalo crash.  Plenty of the house still remaining it spun into.  The people behind Q are idiots.  Honest to god no kidding idiots.  Search for the truth elsewhere.  Or be a moron.  Choice is yours.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 12, 2021, 08:22:49 PM
Man I just can't believe how willing some of you are to buy into conspiracies.  A Dash 8 simply doesn't have the destructive force to destroy a missile silo.  There would be plenty of silo bits and pieces lying around.  And if it was an actual built into the ground silo it would all still be intact.  That island is really close to one of the busiest north to south interstates in the country.  Lots of traffic to see a missile going up in the air.  Not to mention Tacoma is right there.  It' a pretty big city with plenty of people out and about even at 0400.  If you want to see how destructive a Dash 8 crash can be then Google the Buffalo crash.  Plenty of the house still remaining it spun into.  The people behind Q are idiots.  Honest to god no kidding idiots.  Search for the truth elsewhere.  Or be a moron.  Choice is yours.

Just a bunch of false and misleading statements there, TBH. Nice try though. What is it with you "anti conspiracy" people who just want to bash every thing you say and not even look into any other thing about the story other than what the media projects to you. It's quite sad honestly. "But muh Q is an idiot run by idiots" . I honestly cannot stand comments like this. It reeks of arrogance and desperation. If you actually read or looked thru the Q posts between the time period I suggested June 10 - Aug13, there's about 200 post there that are quite intelligent I might add. It's extraordinarily naive to think its a bunch of idiots.

Oh and I never said it was a Q400 that took out a silo. No one knows where that missile went up, or if anyone took it out. All I'm saying is that there is a different perspective to this story that I think people should be aware of and I will share that whether you like it or not.

Get an avatar will ya. 
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 12, 2021, 08:41:48 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCKVR17c/15729230-AB57-4467-A3-C8-8-DF9-B4-C78351.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 12, 2021, 09:10:07 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCKVR17c/15729230-AB57-4467-A3-C8-8-DF9-B4-C78351.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Exactly!

not only did they feed it after midnight; they got it wet.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: svaalbar on July 12, 2021, 11:58:24 PM
Violator you doing ok?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 13, 2021, 01:34:04 AM
Just a bunch of false and misleading statements there, TBH. Nice try though. What is it with you "anti conspiracy" people who just want to bash every thing you say and not even look into any other thing about the story other than what the media projects to you. It's quite sad honestly. "But muh Q is an idiot run by idiots" . I honestly cannot stand comments like this. It reeks of arrogance and desperation. If you actually read or looked thru the Q posts between the time period I suggested June 10 - Aug13, there's about 200 post there that are quite intelligent I might add. It's extraordinarily naive to think its a bunch of idiots.

Oh and I never said it was a Q400 that took out a silo. No one knows where that missile went up, or if anyone took it out. All I'm saying is that there is a different perspective to this story that I think people should be aware of and I will share that whether you like it or not.

Get an avatar will ya.

facts here.  let's say q was in airforce one.  he posts about a missile firing from the west coast on airforce one which was over Europe/somewhere Mediterranean think heading west.  so a missile was fired from the west coast to go making a guess here, 15 thousand miles, since airforce one refueled in Greece.  now in this thread violator claimed the silos launch was over an island that was owned by somebody that hated trump.  ok, let's go for that.  so norad, which is in charge of ,and I am making a guess here, didnt detect the launch. which flew across the united states, parts of Europe, probably turkey and wasnt detected. and somehow an f16 flying with airforce one shot down the intercontinental ballistic missile.  ok let's go for that.

trump never reported that. nobody in the airplane reported that.

ok taking another while guess here, somebody shoots at the president, and 60 days after that an f16 using a hijacked plane as a cover destroys the silo.

making another while assumption here, if somebody shoots at the president, it takes 60 days to reciprocate.  not only that but the owner of the island which the missile was fired was never arrested.

another assumption here, q which is a high level intelligence offer decides to go on a sightseeing tour, remember that violator, the etching on the glass, dont stand next to the glass.  hey a missile was flying at the plane I was at, let me go see the sights around town.

so is q smart as they say, or is he just the father and brother making money from gullible people.

semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 13, 2021, 05:59:22 AM
snip snip
Are you deliberately trying to act stupid or do you really not comprehend what I am saying?....

They were possibly taking out the missile silo 60 days after it shot at the president flying to Singapore.. FFS man.



Oh and I never said it was a Q400 that took out a silo.
No one knows where that missile went up, or if anyone took it out.


:old: Crack :old: Pot  :old:


Vio you are nuttier than peanut butter.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: mechanic on July 13, 2021, 07:31:30 AM
Better to be a crack pot that is correct just 1 out of 100 times than a sheep who follows blindly believing that the system is designed to give them a happy life.  :old:
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 13, 2021, 09:43:21 AM
snip snip
:old: Crack :old: Pot  :old:


Vio you are nuttier than peanut butter.

Does that sentence say I said a Q400 took them out?  MORON.

Better to be a crack pot that is correct just 1 out of 100 times than a sheep who follows blindly believing that the system is designed to give them a happy life.  :old:

They'd rather watch their country get invaded and taken over by actual crackpots while they get their business and livelyhood forcefully shut down, and their kids turned into transgender and psychologically and socially manipulated by men who think they are woman. (Yup, I'm the crazy one). But I do appreciate your comments. Nice to see someone else who actually uses critical thinking skills and can think past the "media of authority".

All I asked was that people go read post 1400 thru 1800 between June10 and Aug 13 to get another perspective. But you see these guys are so intellectual that only their "media of authority" can be true. Naivety and arrogance at its finest.

Violator you doing ok?

I'm doing great personally, up over 20K in 2 weeks on one of my stocks. Just went to Yellowstone too over the 4th. Beautiful place. But let's see, I drive past over 40 homeless tents and RVs on my 15 min way to work in Portland. (Muh environmentalism). More trash all over the streets than I've ever seen in my life. Trashed out burnt RVs along the Columbia river. It's so gross. Portland is the India of America now.
Then I go play tennis at the my local indoor tennis club and they've got 10 year olds wearing masks in 90° degree heat indoors with no fans. I've honestly about had it with the ignoramus of society at this point.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Peanut1 on July 13, 2021, 04:17:34 PM
Violator, you are a darn good stick...but I don't think I have ever met someone as consistently batshi* crazy as you are. I pity you and anyone that will have to care for you when you get old. CRACKPOT is an understatment....I'm beginning to think Veer-ratchet is not that bad...
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Peanut1 on July 13, 2021, 04:18:57 PM
Violator you doing ok?
I think him and Vraciu got I to the same bad coke.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 13, 2021, 04:25:03 PM
Does that sentence say I said a Q400 took them out?  MORON.


Them? What Them? Silos? Reptilians? The Illuminati? The French?

Where is your assigned care worker? Do they know you are currently unattended?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 13, 2021, 04:28:46 PM
Better to be a crack pot that is correct just 1 out of 100 times than a sheep who follows blindly believing that the system is designed to give them a happy life.  :old:

"If you throw enough watermelon something will finally stick".
However after all the watermelon it takes finally getting it to stick, there's not enough credibility in the world to make it matter.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 13, 2021, 04:39:51 PM
Maybe a more interesting discussion might include:
1: How cults form in an educated country.
2: Who joins these cults and why.
3: How does society help people return to some form of peace after cult participation.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: hazmatt on July 13, 2021, 05:02:23 PM
I once heard somebody describe a conspiracy theorist as a person who questions known liars... 
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 13, 2021, 06:21:48 PM
Maybe a more interesting discussion might include:
1: How cults form in an educated country.
2: Who joins these cults and why.
3: How does society help people return to some form of peace after cult participation.

You mean like Freemasonry? BLM? Antifa? OTO-thelema? 93 society? Skull and Bones? Thule society? Vril society? Rosecrucians? Illuminati? Bilderberg group? Committee of 300? Bohemian Club? Ect ect....

Yeah, sure is interesting how those "cults" with actual leaders and places of meetings form in an "educated" country.

I'd feel bad for you simpletons if you weren't such condescending Aholes.



Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Peanut1 on July 13, 2021, 06:53:25 PM
You mean like Freemasonry? BLM? Antifa? OTO-thelema? 93 society? Skull and Bones? Thule society? Vril society? Rosecrucians? Illuminati? Bilderberg group? Committee of 300? Bohemian Club? Ect ect....

Yeah, sure is interesting how those "cults" with actual leaders and places of meetings form in an "educated" country.

I'd feel bad for you simpletons if you weren't such condescending Aholes.
Well, we feel bad for you. Lots of indicators of extreme mental illness coming from you lately...can't wait to see ya on the big screen.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 13, 2021, 06:57:21 PM
Well, we feel bad for you. Lots of indicators of extreme mental illness coming from you lately...can't wait to see ya on the big screen.

 Must feel bad getting your arse whooped in Aces High air combat by a guy with mental illness.  :P  :rofl  :neener:
 

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Peanut1 on July 13, 2021, 07:34:04 PM
Must feel bad getting your arse whooped in Aces High air combat by a guy with mental illness.  :P  :rofl  :neener:
not at all, crazy folks go down shooting all the time.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 13, 2021, 08:27:52 PM
Must feel bad getting your arse whooped in Aces High air combat by a guy with mental illness.  :P  :rofl  :neener:

I'll walk all the way to Portland wearing nothing but a speedo if you can tell me how an f16 can destroy an intercontinental ballistic missile.

I'll even pick up all the trash from those evil homeless guys as a bonus.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 13, 2021, 09:18:56 PM
not at all, crazy folks go down shooting all the time.

Only crazy people go around calling others "mentally ill" when they think differently than them. Fallacies are a sign of being mentally and arrogantly incorrect.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 13, 2021, 10:01:06 PM
Only crazy people go around calling others "mentally ill" when they think differently than them. Fallacies are a sign of being mentally and arrogantly incorrect.

actually you once posted that the president was going undercover.  I mean just about 99.99999999 of the population in the usa can go undercover.  basically everybody except the president and vice president.  you know why?  well the guys with sunglasses walking around them would be a dead giveaway.  a police officer in full uniform with a blue light over his head driving in a car marked undercover police officer, would be more undercover than the president.


it isnt that you are crazy, it just means you follow one guy who time and time again has been proven wrong.  well actually it's 2 guys, father and son, making money off of people like you.

but once you posted have an open mind, which most of us do, except you.  your open mind means believe what this 2 guys post and follow blindly.  if you contradict, then make a different point if that doesnt work open another one.

I could repost claims just in this thread that you believe are thruths and when proven wrong, then you come back with something else, then you contradict yourself by posting you never said that.  you call that different theory, but then you offer another theory that contradicts your first one, then your second one and your third.

so who's the sheep?


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 14, 2021, 04:01:53 AM
Must feel bad getting your arse whooped in Aces High air combat by a guy with mental illness.  :P  :rofl  :neener:

The first and most important step is acknowledging that there is something wrong with you.   :aok
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 14, 2021, 08:29:37 AM
The first and most important step is acknowledging that there is something wrong with you.   :aok

I'll take that as a compliment coming from clowns like you, Semp, Peanut and Busher. In your backwards stolckholm syndrome clown world.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Maverick on July 14, 2021, 09:43:40 AM
It never ceases to amaze me the lengths folks will go to support their conspiracy theory addiction. The same goes for internet trolls. IMO both are best ignored as there is no such thing as reasoning with either one. That is unless you like wallowing in the mud with the hogs then have at it but please do it in private messages so the rest of us don't have to deal with the mud.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 14, 2021, 10:14:10 AM
That is unless you like wallowing in the mud with the hogs then have at it but please do it in private messages so the rest of us don't have to deal with the mud.

This ^.  Spot on! 👍
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 14, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
It never ceases to amaze me the lengths folks will go to support their conspiracy theory addiction. The same goes for internet trolls. IMO both are best ignored as there is no such thing as reasoning with either one. That is unless you like wallowing in the mud with the hogs then have at it but please do it in private messages so the rest of us don't have to deal with the mud.

A bag carrier starting and taking off a Q400 and doing a barrel roll is a conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Spikes on July 14, 2021, 10:20:14 AM
A bag carrier starting and taking off a Q400 and doing a barrel roll is a conspiracy theory.
Not really, flight simulators add on creators since FS2004 and earlier released study-level aircraft where one could definitely practice the startup procedures. Couple that with probably plenty of time sitting in the cockpit doing their normal tasks, and the ability to simply google a Q400 preflight checklist:
https://flyuk.aero/assets/downloads/resources/checklists/UKV-PRD-DASH8%20Q400-CHECKLIST-V1.pdf

I'm not saying doing it would be easy, but there's no doubt it would not be difficult to figure out.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 14, 2021, 10:43:16 AM
Not really, flight simulators add on creators since FS2004 and earlier released study-level aircraft where one could definitely practice the startup procedures. Couple that with probably plenty of time sitting in the cockpit doing their normal tasks, and the ability to simply google a Q400 preflight checklist:
https://flyuk.aero/assets/downloads/resources/checklists/UKV-PRD-DASH8%20Q400-CHECKLIST-V1.pdf

I'm not saying doing it would be easy, but there's no doubt it would not be difficult to figure out.

Nothing in the story suggests he wanted to be a pilot. Nothing suggests that he played MFS. If he did, let's see the proof of the hours he spent playing it. Let's see the video of him climbing into the aircraft and taking off. Let's see the evidence on his computers that he downloaded a flight manual. "I played video games" doesn't cut it for me.

I'll never believe another MSM wrag story again after what they've done the last 6 years. So I'm gonna need more actual evidence to suggests this guy was actually capable of it. Until then, its a just a conspiracy cover up, which I know MSM is great at doing.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 14, 2021, 10:44:52 AM
Not really, flight simulators add on creators since FS2004 and earlier released study-level aircraft where one could definitely practice the startup procedures. Couple that with probably plenty of time sitting in the cockpit doing their normal tasks, and the ability to simply google a Q400 preflight checklist:
https://flyuk.aero/assets/downloads/resources/checklists/UKV-PRD-DASH8%20Q400-CHECKLIST-V1.pdf

I'm not saying doing it would be easy, but there's no doubt it would not be difficult to figure out.

A bag carrier never spends any time in the cockpit of any airliner, doing normal tasks.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Spikes on July 14, 2021, 10:48:00 AM
A bag carrier never spends any time in the cockpit of any airliner, doing normal tasks.
Did you read the article?

Quote
"Russell’s tow-crew work gave him access to the flight deck of airplanes as a matter of course. (The task is accomplished by a pair of workers, one in the tow rig, the other in the cockpit riding the brakes.)"

In easier to understand terms, he would have had time in the cockpit doing normal tasks.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 14, 2021, 11:41:14 AM
Did you read the article?

In easier to understand terms, he would have had time in the cockpit doing normal tasks.

Yes.    In easier to understand terms, it’s not common (or a smart practice with a multi million dollar aircraft) for bag handlers to ride brakes for a tow operation.  Instead, mechanics handle the task since they are intimately familiar with the aircraft systems.  Bag handlers, on the other hand, are familiar with the job of moving bags to/from the aircraft.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: mechanic on July 14, 2021, 12:56:14 PM
Pretty much every person the human race considers fit for a position of leadership spends their whole life's energy working out ways to lie convincingly to ensure that they stay in that position. Everybody knows it, it's not even an unwritten rule. It's plain common knowledge that humans are dishonest creatures as soon as the truth would make them lose something they want. Ganging up and group accusing a person of being a crackpot for speaking against the status quo is also pretty typical human behaviour. The same type of person called Orwell a crackpot and guess what, everything he predicted looks to be accurate.

Throwing conspiracy theories around might not always be the most helpful behaviour but anyone who truly believes that the world is just as it seems, how it is being presented to us, is far more stupid.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Spikes on July 14, 2021, 01:15:46 PM
Yes.    In easier to understand terms, it’s not common (or a smart practice with a multi million dollar aircraft) for bag handlers to ride brakes for a tow operation.  Instead, mechanics handle the task since they are intimately familiar with the aircraft systems.  Bag handlers, on the other hand, are familiar with the job of moving bags to/from the aircraft.
Sure, I get it. But he did.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 14, 2021, 01:46:47 PM
Sure, I get it. But he did.

…with unintended consequences for all concerned.

Hopefully, Horizon has changed its procedure for who has access to their aircraft.  Sounds like this guy could have been pulled of the ramp as the result of his earlier actions. 
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 14, 2021, 02:38:32 PM
Not sure how anyone could be caught "pushing buttons" in a plane but not be fired immediately. Would seem like a major No No to me.

Pretty much every person the human race considers fit for a position of leadership spends their whole life's energy working out ways to lie convincingly to ensure that they stay in that position. Everybody knows it, it's not even an unwritten rule. It's plain common knowledge that humans are dishonest creatures as soon as the truth would make them lose something they want. Ganging up and group accusing a person of being a crackpot for speaking against the status quo is also pretty typical human behaviour. The same type of person called Orwell a crackpot and guess what, everything he predicted looks to be accurate.

Throwing conspiracy theories around might not always be the most helpful behaviour but anyone who truly believes that the world is just as it seems, how it is being presented to us, is far more stupid.

I didn't become a controller and GM of a company at the age of 29 for being an idiot or crack pot, that I can tell you. I often find that one deminsional thinkers don't go as far as others because they reject/Ignore thinking that is too complex for them. Sort of like a bunch of high school jocs picking on the math nerd in school. Who do you think goes further in life? They will never understand how the math wiz solves the big problems. One demisional thinking has taken over much of today's population who only follow sources of authority and do not expand their thinking to other possibilities. As you said, they probably don't want to because they are corrupt. When one person doesn't "tow the line" they get picked on for being different. They is why the world has followed the path of the Joc rather than the nerd. They think its cooler to be the joc not realizing they aren't using their mind to the fullest extent. This may have future consequences.

When everyone laughed at me for buying 100K shares of a penny stock, I shrugged them off and went on my way because of course they didn't do any real research into it like I did. Now I'm up 800% laughing my way to the bank.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 14, 2021, 09:01:11 PM
Only crazy people go around calling others "mentally ill" when they think differently than them. Fallacies are a sign of being mentally and arrogantly incorrect.

Everyone thinks differently from me.  And vice versa.  No two think exactly alike.  I don't think that makes them inherently crazy.  But people who truly believe the Q crap are people like Marjorie Taylor.  And yes, she is crazy.  Bat "you know what" crazy. As is every other person who buys into the Q garbage.  Evidently that includes you.  And so is anyone else thinking that the Q400 incident was anything more than some suicidal guy who stole a plane. 

Anyone who spends a couple of hours on a flight simulator has all the skill needed to take off an airliner.  All they need to know next is how to fire up the turbines.  Which can be researched for just about any aircraft out there via YouTube.  They don't even need to have any idea about speeds.  Or even parking brakes for that matter evidently although I'm skeptical that he actually had the parking brake on. Every jet I'm typed on wouldn't go far with the parking brake set.  Although truthfully I don't know this for fact as we don't have sim sessions devoted to taxiing with the parking brake set.   Push the levers up, pull back, and the wing will eventually fly.  I don't know why crazy conspiracy people look to his accomplishing this as proof it was a coverup of some crazy conspiracy of theirs.  I guess that's part of being crazy.   Physics and science go out the window. 
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 14, 2021, 09:25:54 PM
Yes.    In easier to understand terms, it’s not common (or a smart practice with a multi million dollar aircraft) for bag handlers to ride brakes for a tow operation.  Instead, mechanics handle the task since they are intimately familiar with the aircraft systems.  Bag handlers, on the other hand, are familiar with the job of moving bags to/from the aircraft.

I've been in the US airline industry up front in the pointy end for over twenty years.  No airline I've ever flown for or heard of allows baggage handlers access to the cockpit much less entrusts them with moving the aircraft.  The extent of their training is usually as in depth as how to push a button located usually in the forward galley which closes a bus tie contactor allowing some AC power to light up a dedicated bus which usually contains some interior lighting.  That's about it.  Aircraft are without exception moved by either mechanics or pilots.  I was mistakenly led to believe he was in fact a mechanic. 

A "ramper" on the flight deck throwing switches and poking around would be an immediate call to a ground security coordinator and law enforcement if I ever witnessed it.  It just isn't done.  The only time they ever poke their heads up their is when they grab the trash bag.

I happen to commute to work via SEA by the way and I'm pretty sure that Menzies personnel who in fact handle baggage handling are not riding brakes during aircraft tows.  I could be wrong but I doubt very much the Alaska Air Group is letting them do it even over at Horizon.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 14, 2021, 09:51:42 PM
I've been in the US airline industry up front in the pointy end for over twenty years.  No airline I've ever flown for or heard of allows baggage handlers access to the cockpit much less entrusts them with moving the aircraft.  The extent of their training is usually as in depth as how to push a button located usually in the forward galley which closes a bus tie contactor allowing some AC power to light up a dedicated bus which usually contains some interior lighting.  That's about it.  Aircraft are without exception moved by either mechanics or pilots.  I was mistakenly led to believe he was in fact a mechanic. 

A "ramper" on the flight deck throwing switches and poking around would be an immediate call to a ground security coordinator and law enforcement if I ever witnessed it.  It just isn't done.  The only time they ever poke their heads up their is when they grab the trash bag.

I happen to commute to work via SEA by the way and I'm pretty sure that Menzies personnel who in fact handle baggage handling are not riding brakes during aircraft tows.  I could be wrong but I doubt very much the Alaska Air Group is letting them do it even over at Horizon.

Same experience and thoughts from my 20+ year airline experience.  The article written by The Rolling Stones “expert” pieced together without interviews from primary players leaves a lot to be skeptical about.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 15, 2021, 07:18:05 AM
I don't work in the airline industry, but using logical process, sim experience and a little guestimation and given 5minutes alone with a Q400 or any other aircraft of choice, I could very probably get it to start and move and taxi and fly, just don't ask me to tune the radios and make accurate radio transmissions. I've no idea what "with Mike or With Zulu" means. A bold claim I know, but I'd prove it cpit opportunity given, and I'd bet a few others in Aces High could do just the same.
There is the absolute possibility that the guy used his companies lax security around him "getting the trash bag" and sim experience to go off and do what he did.
No conspiracies, just an opportunity and (depending on perspective) poor judgement.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Spikes on July 15, 2021, 07:31:32 AM
I don't work in the airline industry, but using logical process, sim experience and a little guestimation and given 5minutes alone with a Q400 or any other aircraft of choice, I could very probably get it to start and move and taxi and fly, just don't ask me to tune the radios and make accurate radio transmissions.

This is exactly my point. It is useless to sit here and argue whether or not he should have been allowed into the cockpit. I'm sure he should'nt have been, it's frowned upon, it's illegal, it's not common practice, whatever. The bottom line is, he was.

The question is: how did he have the knowledge to cold start a turboprop airliner?

The answer is: time sitting in the cockpit familiarizing himself with the controls, most likely coupled with sim time and basic research.

Same experience and thoughts from my 20+ year airline experience.  The article written by The Rolling Stones “expert” pieced together without interviews from primary players leaves a lot to be skeptical about.
Where did he (Tim Dickinson) call himself an expert?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 15, 2021, 09:04:20 AM
Where did he (Tim Dickinson) call himself an expert?

You miss the “point”.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 15, 2021, 09:19:54 AM
This is exactly my point. It is useless to sit here and argue whether or not he should have been allowed into the cockpit. I'm sure he should'nt have been, it's frowned upon, it's illegal, it's not common practice, whatever. The bottom line is, he was.

The question is: how did he have the knowledge to cold start a turboprop airliner?

The answer is: time sitting in the cockpit familiarizing himself with the controls, most likely coupled with sim time and basic research.
Where did he (Tim Dickinson) call himself an expert?

Took me maybe 30 seconds to find this instructional video which goes beyond starting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjtCJQsTnrA
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: mechanic on July 15, 2021, 10:30:55 AM
I don't work in the airline industry, but using logical process, sim experience and a little guestimation and given 5minutes alone with a Q400 or any other aircraft of choice, I could very probably get it to start and move and taxi and fly, just don't ask me to tune the radios and make accurate radio transmissions. I've no idea what "with Mike or With Zulu" means. A bold claim I know, but I'd prove it cpit opportunity given, and I'd bet a few others in Aces High could do just the same.
There is the absolute possibility that the guy used his companies lax security around him "getting the trash bag" and sim experience to go off and do what he did.
No conspiracies, just an opportunity and (depending on perspective) poor judgement.


You've got to be kidding. I put money that given a cessna 152 and told to start and go fly without any assistance the average non-pilot would pile it into the fuel bowser before reaching the runway. That is even if they managed to start the engine quick enough without drawing the attention of every pair of eyes on the airfield first.

I absolutely don't think there is anything but a crazy guy who wanted to fly a plane in this story. Apart from maybe the cover up that they shot him down rather than he crashed. Maybe..

But saying you could start and roll out this airliner with nothing but sims and youtube is naïve as hell.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 15, 2021, 10:33:03 AM
Same experience and thoughts from my 20+ year airline experience.  The article written by The Rolling Stones “expert” pieced together without interviews from primary players leaves a lot to be skeptical about.

Exactly. Where is the evidence of him flying on any simulators. Where is the evidence of him downloading flight manuals. Where is the evidence of any knowledge that he knew how to start and fly and airplane? All we have is hear say. Couple that with the story of him wanting to be in the military and law enforcement. What happened to that? He got a degree. Why didn't he join? Did he try and get turned down? Why does the story make him out to be a great guy only to not be? I refuse to take stories like this at face value because there isn't enough for me to go on.

Everyone thinks differently from me.  And vice versa.  No two think exactly alike.  I don't think that makes them inherently crazy.  But people who truly believe the Q crap are people like Marjorie Taylor.  And yes, she is crazy.  Bat "you know what" crazy. As is every other person who buys into the Q garbage.  Evidently that includes you.  And so is anyone else thinking that the Q400 incident was anything more than some suicidal guy who stole a plane. 

Anyone who spends a couple of hours on a flight simulator has all the skill needed to take off an airliner.  All they need to know next is how to fire up the turbines.  Which can be researched for just about any aircraft out there via YouTube.  They don't even need to have any idea about speeds.  Or even parking brakes for that matter evidently although I'm skeptical that he actually had the parking brake on. Every jet I'm typed on wouldn't go far with the parking brake set.  Although truthfully I don't know this for fact as we don't have sim sessions devoted to taxiing with the parking brake set.   Push the levers up, pull back, and the wing will eventually fly.  I don't know why crazy conspiracy people look to his accomplishing this as proof it was a coverup of some crazy conspiracy of theirs.  I guess that's part of being crazy.   Physics and science go out the window. 

If you haven't reviewed the Q post 1400 to 1800 than STFU about it. You obviously haven't done the research to your baseless claims. I have not once seen compelling evidence that Q is not associated with military or to the past president. There are simply too many coincidences and connections. I have followed it from the day it came out. It's not my fault you choose to be ignorant, but don't be arrogant about it. I find that to be a huge weakness in the opposition. If you think MTG is crazy. Than you are surely lost and it shows why America is being dismantled due to people's like yours arrogance. We had 93,000 over dose deaths in America last year. Some of us are really Fing tired of watching our friends and family get Fked by these drugs. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of wars in Syria, lybia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of losing their country to invaders. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of paying exuberant taxes in which are going to Honduras and everything other country while I have to drive by over 10 RVs trashing the scenic Marine Drive along the Columbia river and another 40 lining the street adjacent to it. Some of us are really potato peeling tried of Klous Schwab and the WEF and WHO and UN trying to control our lives while they allow China to Harbour slaves for labor and committ pollution 100x worse than America. Some of us are really Fkikg tired of race and gender and sex being subverted on our children.

Let me tell you something right now Mr., You havent seen crazy yet. The wrath is coming if this doesn't stop. Mark my words.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 15, 2021, 10:46:12 AM
Exactly. Where is the evidence of him flying on any simulators. Where is the evidence of him downloading flight manuals. Where is the evidence of any knowledge that he knew how to start and fly and airplane? All we have is hear say. Couple that with the story of him wanting to be in the military and law enforcement. What happened to that? He got a degree. Why didn't he join? Did he try and get turned down? Why does the story make him out to be a great guy only to not be? I refuse to take stories like this at face value because there isn't enough for me to go on.

If you haven't reviewed the Q post 1400 to 1800 than STFU about it. You obviously haven't done the research to your baseless claims. I have not once seen compelling evidence that Q is not associated with military or to the past president. There are simply too many coincidences and connections. I have followed it from the day it came out. It's not my fault you choose to be ignorant, but don't be arrogant about it. I find that to be a huge weakness in the opposition. If you think MTG is crazy. Than you are surely lost and it shows why America is being dismantled due to people's like yours arrogance. We had 93,000 over dose deaths in America last year. Some of us are really Fing tired of watching our friends and family get Fked by these drugs. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of wars in Syria, lybia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of losing their country to invaders. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of paying exuberant taxes in which are going to Honduras and everything other country while I have to drive by over 10 RVs trashing the scenic Marine Drive along the Columbia river and another 40 lining the street adjacent to it. Some of us are really potato peeling tried of Klous Schwab and the WEF and WHO and UN trying to control our lives while they allow China to Harbour slaves for labor and committ pollution 100x worse than America. Some of us are really Fkikg tired of race and gender and sex being subverted on our children.

Let me tell you something right now Mr., You havent seen crazy yet. The wrath is coming if this doesn't stop. Mark my words.

You're the one missing the points.  The point is you don't need a simulator session, or airline ground school and sim sessions, or military flight training to steal one of these planes.  All you need is access to the internet to learn to start it, a job on the inside allowing access, and a slightly out of whack brain.  Nothing wrong with suicide but don't steal some airline's plane to do it. 

As to Q, I will never read any of their garbage/nonsense and I will never stfu about it.  They and their idiot supporters are a very real and direct threat to democracy.  I wish we could fix/castrate the lot and cut them off from internet access.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 15, 2021, 10:51:56 AM
Another thing, America is all about invaders.  It was was built on the foundation laid by invading  Europeans who slaughtered the natives and stole their land.  God bless 'murica.  I'm so tired of my fellow countrymen.  So many of you are so stupid and ignorant you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a ballot box.  You don't have the mental chops to take part in who should represent us.  The sad thing is most of you choose to be ignorant.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Peanut1 on July 15, 2021, 11:33:47 AM
Exactly. Where is the evidence of him flying on any simulators. Where is the evidence of him downloading flight manuals. Where is the evidence of any knowledge that he knew how to start and fly and airplane? All we have is hear say. Couple that with the story of him wanting to be in the military and law enforcement. What happened to that? He got a degree. Why didn't he join? Did he try and get turned down? Why does the story make him out to be a great guy only to not be? I refuse to take stories like this at face value because there isn't enough for me to go on.

If you haven't reviewed the Q post 1400 to 1800 than STFU about it. You obviously haven't done the research to your baseless claims. I have not once seen compelling evidence that Q is not associated with military or to the past president. There are simply too many coincidences and connections. I have followed it from the day it came out. It's not my fault you choose to be ignorant, but don't be arrogant about it. I find that to be a huge weakness in the opposition. If you think MTG is crazy. Than you are surely lost and it shows why America is being dismantled due to people's like yours arrogance. We had 93,000 over dose deaths in America last year. Some of us are really Fing tired of watching our friends and family get Fked by these drugs. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of wars in Syria, lybia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of losing their country to invaders. Some of us are really potato peeling tired of paying exuberant taxes in which are going to Honduras and everything other country while I have to drive by over 10 RVs trashing the scenic Marine Drive along the Columbia river and another 40 lining the street adjacent to it. Some of us are really potato peeling tried of Klous Schwab and the WEF and WHO and UN trying to control our lives while they allow China to Harbour slaves for labor and committ pollution 100x worse than America. Some of us are really Fkikg tired of race and gender and sex being subverted on our children.

Let me tell you something right now Mr., You havent seen crazy yet. The wrath is coming if this doesn't stop. Mark my words.
I can not believe the lengths you will goto to prove how fugin nutty you are...
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 15, 2021, 11:45:21 AM
🤡 🌎 on full display today

 :rofl
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 15, 2021, 12:26:04 PM
Well I'd debate you some more but I have some potatoes to peel.  Enjoy your day.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 15, 2021, 04:32:40 PM
"Let me tell you something right now Mr., You havent seen crazy yet. The wrath is coming if this doesn't stop. Mark my words."

Every American should be censuring these people. This kind of talk has already proven itself to cause violence.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 15, 2021, 04:45:53 PM
"Let me tell you something right now Mr., You havent seen crazy yet. The wrath is coming if this doesn't stop. Mark my words."

Every American should be censuring these people. This kind of talk has already proven itself to cause violence.

Don't act like you didn't ask for it pal.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 15, 2021, 04:52:39 PM
🤡 🌎 on full display today

 :rofl

sure is except the pictures that you posted as proof that q was in airforce one,  actually prove that he wasnt.

look at the first 2, they're taken from a plane that appears to be landing probably an hour or two before sunset. you know at what time the sunsets in Malaysia?  about 7:20 give it take a couple of minutes.  airforce one landed at 8:20 pm Malaysia time. 1 hour after sunset. hard to believe it was making circles before landing at the airforce base.

the last picture was taken from an observation point nowhere near where trump or kim where staying or where the meeting was held.  hard to believe he was sightseeing during such an important meeting.

even more the claim that a missile was fired at airforce one and shot down by an f16 is ridiculous.  I already posted that the president was somewhere over Asia, only icbm have that range. and they aren't designed to shoot down planes unless nuclear.

but you will disregard every thing I just said because your belief in q is so strong that the alternative is unthinkable.


semp
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 15, 2021, 04:54:38 PM

You've got to be kidding.

Not for a moment

But saying you could start and roll out this airliner with nothing but sims and youtube is naïve as hell.

With the rise of "Study Sims" I believe it is naïve to dismiss the possibility.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 15, 2021, 05:24:29 PM
Don't act like you didn't ask for it pal.

Seriously? Was that a threat?
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 15, 2021, 06:09:18 PM
Seriously? Was that a threat?

It's a threat to "muh democracy", not you personally. The fact that you are so naive and arrogant to me and millions of Americans anger is just proof that your cabal "democracy" is trying to subvert us. It really pisses me off how stupid you act towards our anger. Pretending like your coward media didn't do nothing for 5 years. Shame on you and all you merry bunch of losers.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Busher on July 15, 2021, 06:26:09 PM
It's a threat to "muh democracy", not you personally. The fact that you are so naive and arrogant to me and millions of Americans anger is just proof that your cabal "democracy" is trying to subvert us. It really pisses me off how stupid you act towards our anger. Pretending like your coward media didn't do nothing for 5 years. Shame on you and all you merry bunch of losers.

Gotta admit. Does my heart good to see you and yours all wound so tight about what you perceive is being "done to you".
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 15, 2021, 06:36:14 PM
Gotta admit. Does my heart good to see you and yours all wound so tight about what you perceive is being "done to you".

Subversion isn't perception. It's war. I'm just glad your clowns are so arrogant it's going to cost them big time.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Oldman731 on July 15, 2021, 07:47:56 PM
Subversion isn't perception. It's war. I'm just glad your clowns are so arrogant it's going to cost them big time.


...yeah...I guess that counts as a threat...

- oldman
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 15, 2021, 07:58:38 PM

...yeah...I guess that counts as a threat...

- oldman

The only place I am threatening in is AH.

Now end this discussion! My 3rd attempt to end this discussion. But I will talk trash back to you if you comment about me again on this thread.

Just STFU and let it be.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 15, 2021, 09:40:38 PM
What no freedom of speech or free exchange of ideas?. . . . . lol

What happened to "Merica" the land of the Free? To be protected from the Pentaverate and other mind controlling agencies.
Now when others don't agree - they should STFU? Where is that Pot & Kettle?. . . . .thats funny.

Reminds me of the UNCF T.V. Commercial Catch phrase; "A Mind is a terrible thing to waste"
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 15, 2021, 10:04:45 PM
STILL in. 
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: LCADolby on July 16, 2021, 05:32:37 AM
Now end this discussion!

Yes let's. And move onto a more glaring issue; your crazy rambling escalating into threatening violence to members of this BBS, all because you are utterly unable to convince people of sound mind to subscribe to your easily discreditable views. So easy even semp's been at it  :D

I think you described it best yourself ;

🤡 🌎 on full display today
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 16, 2021, 07:58:29 AM
Yes let's. And move onto a more glaring issue; your crazy rambling escalating into threatening violence to members of this BBS, all because you are utterly unable to convince people of sound mind to subscribe to your easily discreditable views. So easy even semp's been at it  :D

I think you described it best yourself ;

Fk you Dolby you SOB. They threatened me and said watermelon to me first, yoi can do Fk yourself
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 16, 2021, 08:27:31 AM
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Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 16, 2021, 08:31:59 AM
Heed my warning. The people are coming.


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Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 16, 2021, 08:43:38 AM
Vio is a crackpot  :old:

snip snip
:old: Crack :old: Pot  :old:


Vio you are nuttier than peanut butter.

Violator, you are a darn good stick...but I don't think I have ever met someone as consistently batshi* crazy as you are. I pity you and anyone that will have to care for you when you get old. CRACKPOT is an understatment....I'm beginning to think Veer-ratchet is not that bad...

Maybe a more interesting discussion might include:
1: How cults form in an educated country.
2: Who joins these cults and why.
3: How does society help people return to some form of peace after cult participation.

Well, we feel bad for you. Lots of indicators of extreme mental illness coming from you lately...can't wait to see ya on the big screen.

The first and most important step is acknowledging that there is something wrong with you.   :aok

You're the one missing the points.  The point is you don't need a simulator session, or airline ground school and sim sessions, or military flight training to steal one of these planes.  All you need is access to the internet to learn to start it, a job on the inside allowing access, and a slightly out of whack brain.  Nothing wrong with suicide but don't steal some airline's plane to do it. 

As to Q, I will never read any of their garbage/nonsense and I will never stfu about it.  They and their idiot supporters are a very real and direct threat to democracy.  I wish we could fix/castrate the lot and cut them off from internet access.

You're the one missing the points.  The point is you don't need a simulator session, or airline ground school and sim sessions, or military flight training to steal one of these planes.  All you need is access to the internet to learn to start it, a job on the inside allowing access, and a slightly out of whack brain.  Nothing wrong with suicide but don't steal some airline's plane to do it. 

As to Q, I will never read any of their garbage/nonsense and I will never stfu about it.  They and their idiot supporters are a very real and direct threat to democracy.  I wish we could fix/castrate the lot and cut them off from internet access.

I can not believe the lengths you will goto to prove how fugin nutty you are...

Gotta admit. Does my heart good to see you and yours all wound so tight about what you perceive is being "done to you".

This doesn't count the post where people manipulated what I said to fit their post.

I hope you are all proud for defending this nonsense while continuing to threaten me and name call. How pathetic and weak you are.




Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Puma44 on July 16, 2021, 08:51:00 AM
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/beebo-russell-seattle-plane-theft-true-story-1187023/

To demonstrate the evolution, post #1.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: hazmatt on July 16, 2021, 10:00:54 AM
Dang. I need more popcorn!
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Wolfala on July 16, 2021, 10:20:20 AM
Dang. I need more popcorn!

I’ve been here about 20 years. I was around for the Voss conspiracy and stripper stripper web. But I have never seen a thread dive into mental illness like this one
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: SIK1 on July 16, 2021, 10:24:41 AM
I’ve been here about 20 years. I was around for the Voss conspiracy and stripper stripper web. But I have never seen a thread dive into mental illness like this one

I was wondering when the scorpions were going to be unleashed.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: morfiend on July 16, 2021, 12:12:51 PM
I was wondering when the scorpions were going to be unleashed.


   :rofl :rofl :rofl  Oh and strippergate....!!! :devil


 All I really want to know is whicj penny stock returned 800%,I have a few spare ducats that could benefit from that type of growth. I thought 30% growth from precovid was a good thing but 800% sure sounds a lot better to me.

 Ya I didnt bite on the gamestop either.......


    :salute
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 16, 2021, 12:14:03 PM
Heed my warning. The people are coming.

Don't forget to mention "The Storm". . . . ., wasn't that suppose to happen three years ago or so? That one is well over do.

Perhaps “they” should look into Domino’s pizza…. those guys know how to deliver!

Since when are riots and protest in Europe new? Several players in here riot & protest every time the pub closes. Fake news. Toot toot, chugga chugga, chugga chugga. . . . .lol
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 16, 2021, 01:04:18 PM

   :rofl :rofl :rofl  Oh and strippergate....!!! :devil


 All I really want to know is whicj penny stock returned 800%,I have a few spare ducats that could benefit from that type of growth. I thought 30% growth from precovid was a good thing but 800% sure sounds a lot better to me.

 Ya I didnt bite on the gamestop either.......


    :salute

I'd tell yall but ops, looks like my glass of respect just ran out.

I guess that's what happens when you make fun of the nerd instead of becoming friends with them.

Too bad.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 16, 2021, 01:05:17 PM
Don't forget to mention "The Storm". . . . ., wasn't that suppose to happen three years ago or so? That one is well over do.

Perhaps “they” should look into Domino’s pizza…. those guys know how to deliver!

Since when are riots and protest in Europe new? Several players in here riot & protest every time the pub closes. Fake news. Toot toot, chugga chugga, chugga chugga. . . . .lol

You are gonna be crying like a little baby back beeyotch when the AZ and GA and MI and WI audits come out. Doing it by the book takes some time.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: TyFoo on July 16, 2021, 01:33:17 PM
Uh huh…..

Well I am faithfully standing here, waiting to wave my little flag for that moment when the “Storm” & the “Great Awakening” folks show up. Until then you keep offering your reality and l’ll keep presenting reality.

I am curious though.  How big is that closet of yours? It must be difficult to think what you think and do what you do and not be able to personally express yourself to others in the workplace or party’s.
Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: guncrasher on July 16, 2021, 03:09:06 PM
This doesn't count the post where people manipulated what I said to fit their post.

I hope you are all proud for defending this nonsense while continuing to threaten me and name call. How pathetic and weak you are.

please post where I called you names. even though you did call me names.

so take it easy and forget about it.  tomorrow is another day.


semp

Title: Re: SEATAC Q-400 guy
Post by: Meatwad on July 16, 2021, 03:11:42 PM

Perhaps “they” should look into Domino’s pizza…. those guys know how to deliver!


Dominos has greasy and tasteless pizza