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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lerxst on December 25, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
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so flying LW im mixin it up with a p38 near my airfield,fun fight we had i happen to get good position on the guy i shoot him down,as im starting to land and landing gears down here come p47M from the side of me low to the deck.being that im under 100mph and gears down i cant get out of the way so of course the ACE pilot shoots and kills me.why is it that out of oh i dont know just a tiny thread of courtesy to fellow players you wouldnt be a jerk and take the shot.is it some sort of god complex that forces people to make these sad decisions,all i know is im pretty tired of lack of courtesy :headscratch: . PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT
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You had your good fight. What does it matter if you land or not?
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Tired of people like you. :(
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i would land somewhere else or check the area before landing..
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Well, you will probably get flamed for your post but I agree with you. I have grown tired of the sportsmanship or lack thereof in this game. No common courtesy at all. I absolutely cant stand when I get tangled up in a great fight (usually 38 vs 38 against one of the 80th) and during said fight atleast 3 cons (usually an La7 or 2 and atleast 1 spit 16) decide to park on my 6 and end the fight for me. The opposing pilot is more than capable of killing me and I enjoy dying to them. Why do these people feel the need to interrupt a good fight just for an easy kill? I have no problem if they let me finish the fight and then gang up on me once we've finished. Oh well. It's just all moaning and groaning as it will never change. I'm just glad I've had the greats fights I've had the last few days as my account will be closed before the next billing cycle on the 15th. :cheers:
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Murphy's Law: If it can happen, it will.
At least it was your cartoon airplane, not someone broadsiding your real car.
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That is the least of the "scumbag moves" your going to run into. Remember the old saying, "you have to take the good with the bad". You have to ask yourself, was the fight worth enough fun to forget about the loser that had to vulch you for a kill? If it is, you win!
Cya in the not so friendly skies! <S>
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For me that's a classic kill. Air warfare history is replete with examples of pilots using speed and surprise to ambush enemy pilots on take off or landing. I wouldn't be at all happy about it either, but this game isn't just about making yourself happy. Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that other people, one way or another, are out to destroy your little cartoon pilot.
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Chivilry is nice to see and all. It usually makes for a good story too... sort of heartwarnimg in a way. It makes you feel good if you're one of those guys.
Things in the MA aren't chivelrous. If you're in the MA you KNOW you have to know you're clear to land and if not, fly on or take your chances. Sometimes you don't get a choice.
So either:
A. You didn't check to see if you were clear or:
B. You're here to whine (includes you didn't have a choice and lost).
Sorry for being blunt. I consider myself partially chivilrous but I understand reality.
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Vulching fields is lame (unless doods are going for the capture :t)
But yeah, you have to have your head on a swivel. Constantly check the map. Con on dar bar? Check, check, check. Chances are, if you'd have been checking your surroundings and been doing a proper combat approach, you'd have landed that kill and not posting here.
Pewter, why the no re-up?
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so flying LW im mixin it up with a p38 near my airfield,fun fight we had i happen to get good position on the guy i shoot him down,as im starting to land and landing gears down here come p47M from the side of me low to the deck.being that im under 100mph and gears down i cant get out of the way so of course the ACE pilot shoots and kills me.why is it that out of oh i dont know just a tiny thread of courtesy to fellow players you wouldnt be a jerk and take the shot.is it some sort of god complex that forces people to make these sad decisions,all i know is im pretty tired of lack of courtesy :headscratch: . PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT
Quit your crying, boy.
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Hahahahahaha!! Coming to the boards to whine about being vulched!!
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If you are landing on a base that is located on the front lines,you can die any where at any time.
That's just the way it go's.
How most of us avoid this is by simply "crash" landing with our gear up, you can "land" at roughly the same speed and stop much much faster. Now if you got caught while still in the air,your still fair game.
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Number one lesson: Think of the worst possible thing that could happen and what is about to happen will be worse yet.
I dont care how stellar your fights and victories in the game are there will come a death that defies explanation and is contrary to all your real world experiences of life and physics. Thats online gaming.
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Hahahahahaha!! Coming to the boards to whine about being vulched!!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :cry :cry :cry :confused: :confused: THE END :headscratch: Tower :headscratch: vulcher :O :x :D :D :rofl :rofl :rofl :neener: :neener: :neener: :banana: :banana: :banana: :airplane: :airplane: :joystick: :old: :salute :salute
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Ok what's worse, being vulched by a plane or as you are landing, or being vulched by a tank as you are taking off?
CrazyLwn
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£10 says you didnt use the standard combat landing pattern. if you had, you would have spotted the jug coming in and had enough speed to evade it.
(http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/combatlanding/ovrhd.jpg)
it was/is SOP for good reasons ...
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Not long ago, I shot down a Troop or supply plane shortly after it took off. Kind of felt guilty for shooting down an unarmed plane. A Fighter now is fair game anytime to me. I must say though when I have gotten shot down while taking off it is really irritating but it is still my choice of trying to take off from a hot field.
I understand your pain but it is part of the game.
I would imagine just about everyone has taken a cheap shot now and then. My guess is the OP has too.
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It was a tactic used in WWII. It was used at every possible opportunity it seems. Even by Chuck Yeager.
i would land somewhere else or check the area before landing..
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When it is done to me (rarely) I just salute the guy for being able to articulate it without me being aware. Its all good. Just a game ya know.
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The guy was flying a P47 on the deck and through acks to make a strifing run on planes at the field. What's the problem with that? He was also taking a big risk. Is flying under someone's 6 and shooting him down without a warning OK in your book?
Both are completely historical. The OP should have looked around before entering the final.
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i like strifing runs, it causes strife! however late in the war it was not uncommon to look for a 262 on final and "strafe" him, whether below or above him. i'm am known for coming in low and "strafing" bases at high speed, and usually avoid shooting guys taking of and landing. i like sneaking in under them while they are taking off and fly out in front of them, just to scare the crap out of them. as for vulching a guy while "strafing" a field, that can be fun too, but i don't make a habit of it. not my idea of a dog fight and since the arena i fly in doesn't have points, i don't get point for killing someone crappy style anyway.
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Chivilry is nice to see and all. It usually makes for a good story too... sort of heartwarnimg in a way. It makes you feel good if you're one of those guys.
Things in the MA aren't chivelrous. If you're in the MA you KNOW you have to know you're clear to land and if not, fly on or take your chances. Sometimes you don't get a choice.
So either:
A. You didn't check to see if you were clear or:
B. You're here to whine (includes you didn't have a choice and lost).
Sorry for being blunt. I consider myself partially chivilrous but I understand reality.
+1
Also, t'is the season ... school is out and junior just got a new computer, vid card, joystick, bad attitude 'cuz Mummzy and Duddy didn't get them EVERYTHING they wanted. More so than ever during school breaks I'm more cautious of Hos, Vulches and .pm whines. While perma-squelch would be nice, a macro with a preloaded list of the usual suspects that you can set up would also work ;)
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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT
It's happened to me more times than I care to count...once in a 262. Lick your wounds and grab another ride from a safer field.
Heck, some guys like DOOM do this for a living :D
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all i know is im pretty tired of lack of courtesy
By this, I'm assuming he didn't say "thank you" for the vulch. You're right.
That IS a rather disdainful display of a lack of courtesy. That bastage!
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A fair % of people in this game are always desperate for ANY type of kill, will always dive through 4-5 potential adversaries to vulch a guy and die in the ack, and be ecstatic about the fact they they got a KILL! It's a stage in the evolution that all of us go through. I couldn't conceive of wrong with it, until reading so many threads like this years ago
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there's not one player here that wont kill, maim or harm another player who is at a vulnerable position. be it landing or with less skill. it's a joke to think otherwise.
midway
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there's not one player here that wont kill, maim or harm another player who is at a vulnerable position. be it landing or with less skill. it's a joke to think otherwise.
midway
Its all about the fight semp even if its one sided.
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there's not one player here that wont kill, maim or harm another player who is at a vulnerable position. be it landing or with less skill. it's a joke to think otherwise.
midway
There are a few.
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There are a few.
Oh? I don't think anyone would forego the rope a dope if it worked.
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I have been known to vulch planes taking off, normally leave the landing ones alone as they are not a threat.
shamus
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I would strafe you and your grandma on the runway for .002 perks...just saying :neener:
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:huh :huh :rofl :rofl :rofl :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
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The whines that result from vulching make it a worthy endeavor.
ack-ack
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Oh? I don't think anyone would forego the rope a dope if it worked.
A rope is a technique, we weren't talking about that.
Vulching is a mortal sin by the way. All that do it are going to cartoon hell where cartoon Satan will fry their cartoon testicles in a pan for all of cartoon eternity. :old:
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Quit your crying, boy.
Says my favorite belligerent.
I have been trashed by field ack shooting down someone landing. Typically the guy I go through all of that trouble for is the one who was picking/vulching/etc....
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A rope is a technique, we weren't talking about that.
Vulching is a mortal sin by the way. All that do it are going to cartoon hell where cartoon Satan will fry their cartoon testicles in a pan for all of cartoon eternity. :old:
Sorry I thought you were repying to the quote from Semp in total.
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so flying LW im mixin it up with a p38 near my airfield,fun fight we had i happen to get good position on the guy i shoot him down,as im starting to land and landing gears down here come p47M from the side of me low to the deck.being that im under 100mph and gears down i cant get out of the way so of course the ACE pilot shoots and kills me.why is it that out of oh i dont know just a tiny thread of courtesy to fellow players you wouldnt be a jerk and take the shot.is it some sort of god complex that forces people to make these sad decisions,all i know is im pretty tired of lack of courtesy :headscratch: . PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT
As long as you're in the arena you are a target. Deal with it.
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There are a few.
nishida please name one player that only fights others of equal skill :).
midway
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Well why don't we shuffle off to namby pamby land where we don't get shot!
It's OK to shoot someone in the back, but not when their landing ?
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there's not one player here that wont kill, maim or harm another player who is at a vulnerable position. be it landing or with less skill. it's a joke to think otherwise.
nishida please name one player that only fights others of equal skill :).
I'm sorry to disappoint if you think you laid an especially clever trap. I dismissed your minor point since the main thrust of the discussion was about chivalry, your upper statement which is of the 'for all' form is incorrect, I have encountered several players who value courtesy above adding another notch to their (let's face it, largely meaningless) Aces High scorecard.
To answer your lesser point: what is less ignoble, to spend years of learning, practising and developing skill then applying that whatever fight unfolds (often initially unfair fights, outnumbered, out energied etc), or to swoop through field ack at 450 m.p.h to blast an aircraft on approach or one which hasn't got its wheels yet off the ground?
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Well, I suppose a lesson in SA has been taught, just as falling for a Rope has a lesson to teach getting nailed on landing has one aswell.
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And the point ^^^^.
Nothing sucks worse than being out of ammo, short on fuel, and trying to land when someone zaps you. The reality is if you really want to land the kills and see your name in lights, plan better and land at another field. Otherwise be content with the knowledge that you fought your best and the only way the other guy could pop you was gear down on a runway. ;)
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Wait, he shot at you? With guns?
This is getting out of control. Mark my words, there will be a war soon.
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As long as you're in the arena you are a target. Deal with it.
Amen.
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Wait, he shot at you? With guns?
This is getting out of control. Mark my words, there will be a war soon.
:rofl
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Wait, he shot at you? With guns?
This is getting out of control. Mark my words, there will be a war soon.
:rofl
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its weird that only a few in this thread think vulching just to be vulching is low down and dirty. the others would bury you in the desert for a nickel.
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He did it in a P47... I'm telling you it's more to do that in a 262. :devil
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I'm sorry to disappoint if you think you laid an especially clever trap. I dismissed your minor point since the main thrust of the discussion was about chivalry, your upper statement which is of the 'for all' form is incorrect, I have encountered several players who value courtesy above adding another notch to their (let's face it, largely meaningless) Aces High scorecard.
To answer your lesser point: what is less ignoble, to spend years of learning, practising and developing skill then applying that whatever fight unfolds (often initially unfair fights, outnumbered, out energied etc), or to swoop through field ack at 450 m.p.h to blast an aircraft on approach or one which hasn't got its wheels yet off the ground?
nshida you are a really good player who really enjoy the fights. seen you fight against greater odds while entering at a disadvantage many a time. you are one of a handful that will do that consistently .
but I was referring to anybody other than you. even the guys who will post a 20 paragraph rules of how the game should be played dont follow their own instructions.
midway
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its weird that only a few in this thread think vulching just to be vulching is low down and dirty.
The rest of us got tired, years ago, of reading all the "Hey, they did it in the real war!" "Hey, it's my $15.00!" "Hey, there are no rules in the MA!" and so on.
You'll recognize sportsmanship when you see it, and you can set an example by exhibiting it. But you can't force it on others, alas.
- oldman
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All valid points for and against the terrible atrocity bestowed upon me a few nights ago,to each his own if only for the fact every player pays there 15$ a month.of course i myself knows not every situation in this game is going to be in my getting the perfect kill set up,or being able to land on all wheels,or even able to land for that matter,just for the common sense that if your not at a base to take it then let a guy land his plane :salute
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Sorry, but this is just SA fail same thing as getting picked in a 1v1 in the ma. Keep your head on a swiviel its the ma and you have to expect whatever someone can do to ruin your day they will.
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Whats the point in this?
-the usual MA gameplay dont worth crap, its a fact, deal with it and dont except anything more
-the most respected ones are the ones in the easyest rides, riding with the gangs.
-its me telling this to you, the "dora'hore": ignore the BS, only play with friends.
Have a nice day.
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Says my favorite belligerent.
I have been trashed by field ack shooting down someone landing. Typically the guy I go through all of that trouble for is the one who was picking/vulching/etc....
Stank/stang and I used to vulch each others 262s in 262s. Did we come to the boards crying like a heart broken woman? We laughed and moved on.
I was thinking about returning to the game, these cries and whines make it an easier choice for me :devil
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Clubbing baby seals is well... Clubbing baby seals.
Doesnt matter if they're at 10000ft or wheels down. Still effortless and always amusing.
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We laughed and moved on.
#1 problem with the game and community. Nobody knows how to do this.
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I have never vulched anyone ever. But it's not from a lack of trying. :furious
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I dont care how stellar your fights and victories in the game are there will come a death that defies explanation and is contrary to all your real world experiences of life and physics. Thats online gaming.
I win. :D
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Clubbing baby seals is well... Clubbing baby seals.
Doesnt matter if they're at 10000ft or wheels down. Still effortless and always amusing.
You'll have to explain this to me, if it is effortless how can it be rewarding in any way?
nshida...
I apologise if I over reacted. I just get annoyed being told no one does this or that chivalrous play has no value. I was quite impressed by this anecdote from Udet's memoirs. Not sure how many Aces High players can relate to Guynemer, a different age no doubt:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXsNHVEdZk&feature=player_detailpage#t=124s
How's this for a contrast in philosophies, I came across some damaged bombers just before Christmas and decided to do a Stigler, what with it being the season of goodwill and all, have a look what happened:-
http://www.mediafire.com/?i9uy0u9qqkraly6
:lol
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Stank/stang and I used to vulch each others 262s in 262s. Did we come to the boards crying like a heart broken woman? We laughed and moved on.
I was thinking about returning to the game, these cries and whines make it an easier choice for me :devil
I think the game needs you back BiP, not that I have noticed you have not been on, I have been a bit indisposed lately. I have really missed listening to you rage rants on vent. In fact, this wee dram of single malt is to you and your rage rants.
In my few years of playing you hold the record in my mind for the most tear laden, bigoted, profanity laced rant I have ever heard. Something truly to be proud of. As a point of fact, those bigoted, profanity laced, tearful pouts led to the break up of a pretty decent squad if I recall correctly.
So, remember two things. You whine like no other. You are who you are.
Have a great day. :salute
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You'll have to explain this to me, if it is effortless how can it be rewarding in any way?
Simple,
It's all about pelts and yelps.
Take the pelts and listen for the yelps.
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Simple,
It's all about pelts and yelps.
Take the pelts and listen for the yelps.
Is deriving pleasure from making other people annoyed and upset something to be proud of or even an endeavour worthy of one's time and energy?
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Is deriving pleasure from making other people annoyed and upset something to be proud of or even an endeavour worthy of one's time and energy?
Are you aware that HiTech himself said something like the object of this game is to piss people off. I don't remember the exact quote but one of the old timers here probably does. It was a few years ago he said this. :neener:
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Are you aware that HiTech himself said something like the object of this game is to piss people off. I don't remember the exact quote but one of the old timers here probably does. It was a few years ago he said this. :neener:
The griefer. For him maybe :old:
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Simple,
It's all about pelts and yelps.
Take the pelts and listen for the yelps.
^^^^ this ^^^^
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You weirdos :old:
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trololololol
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Is deriving pleasure from making other people annoyed and upset something to be proud of or even an endeavour worthy of one's time and energy?
Yes.
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Yes.
pathetic
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pathetic
wow, people will piss and moan about every possible little thing they can, just gotta whine about something.
^Tag worthy!
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pathetic
Aces High is all about egos, it always has been.
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As sad as this behavior is, it will continue to happen. Just try to keep it in mind as you move forward. You'll find that some players try to be honorable. All you can do is call the pathetic out for their lameness and move on. You'll always get the same stupid justification for their noobness "it the MA" & "it happened in real life," but if you even get one tardlet to change his ways, it'll be worth it in the future. The thing about the honorable guys is you'll rarely know who they are simply because they let you go. But we are here and we like to encourage those who are like minded.
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How's this for a contrast in philosophies, I came across some damaged bombers just before Christmas and decided to do a Stigler, what with it being the season of goodwill and all, have a look what happened:-
http://www.mediafire.com/?i9uy0u9qqkraly6
That was funny only because I have done that a few times alrdy in game. See someone smoking, I have no intentions to engage in combat with them... only too see them make a move AFTER I WING UP WITH THEM
:salute :cheers: :salute :cheers: :salute :cheers: :salute :cheers:
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Perhaps we should get an arena created where every time you get shot down, you get a box that says, 'Was that a good, honorable kill? Y/N' and if you click 'No', the kill is wiped from your records, and the person is booted from the server. That way, all you guys that want fair, noble equitable fights could flock there and be happy fighting honorably and fairly among yourselves.
If you're all honorable, this system could never be abused. Sounds like a plan to me.
Wiley.
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Oh dear Shida. That film of yours... I've died the same way 3 times after I waggled my wings at them, (every one was a bishbuff firing)... No mercy for the buff pilots! :old: :joystick:
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Oh dear Shida. That film of yours...
I know, funny right? I was clearly non-aggressive and I think he waited until I came within 400 yards :rofl No matter, all good fun :old:
Edit: nevermind, I already know the answer.
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As sad as this behavior is, it will continue to happen. Just try to keep it in mind as you move forward. You'll find that some players try to be honorable. All you can do is call the pathetic out for their lameness and move on. You'll always get the same stupid justification for their noobness "it the MA" & "it happened in real life," but if you even get one tardlet to change his ways, it'll be worth it in the future. The thing about the honorable guys is you'll rarely know who they are simply because they let you go. But we are here and we like to encourage those who are like minded.
And calling someone out is honerable? I'd call it pathetic and lame.
Maybe the tardlette that needs to change his ways is the one "calling people out".
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And calling someone out is honerable? I'd call it pathetic and lame.
Maybe the tardlette that needs to change his ways is the one "calling people out".
It's just like laying on the horn when you see the ultra melon next to you texting while driving down the highway. Some people need to know that their actions are stupid.
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And calling someone out is honerable? I'd call it pathetic and lame.
Maybe the tardlette that needs to change his ways is the one "calling people out".
I've seen Mak call people out...it's not how it sounds....he's not Mazz ranting on 200....it's more of a reminder of people having a choice. Its safe for all ages, lol.
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Speaking of calling people out.........
I will soon be going from a blackberry cell phone connection to the arena with 450ms average ping to something considerably faster.
Win or lose, the backlog of challenges will soon be cleared.
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Still waiting for BiP to contribute. Very drunk BTW... AH is is a microcosm of the World. Wanna be bullies...drug addicts.. professionals seeking an escape... we are all together. anything goes, your name is who you are...
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your name is who you are...
I am a blanket with sleeves. :D
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I am a blanket with sleeves. :D
Warm sleeves, or cold sleeves?
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Perhaps we should get an arena created where every time you get shot down, you get a box that says, 'Was that a good, honorable kill?
No one is suggesting anything so absurd nor should chivalrous behaviour be necessarily the norm. All we are suggesting is everyone does not have to behave like desperately hungry chickens reacting to a handful of grain thrown on the ground all of the time.
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No one is suggesting anything so absurd nor should chivalrous behaviour be necessarily the norm. All we are suggesting is everyone does not have to behave like desperately hungry chickens reacting to a handful of grain thrown on the ground all of the time.
shida, that was very Confucious-sounding...he's Chinese. Please stick to Japanese in the future...as its your name. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Aces High is all about egos, it always has been.
This statement makes you wonder what those people are missing in their non-AH life.
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you decide to land at a flashing field better expect that to happen. sucks but you put yourself in that position.
You had your good fight. What does it matter if you land or not?
imo this attitude is what makes the game tough to enjoy these days
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No one is suggesting anything so absurd nor should chivalrous behaviour be necessarily the norm. All we are suggesting is everyone does not have to behave like desperately hungry chickens reacting to a handful of grain thrown on the ground all of the time.
I just don't understand why people get bent out of shape when someone on the opposing side shoots them. It's the game. Like Colombo said, if you're in a vehicle in the arena, you're a target. If you decide to land at a field where there are enemy you deserve what you get. If you do that and a buddy of yours happens to be in a Wirble, the would-be vulcher also deserves what he gets.
Wiley.
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pathetic
Arp! Arp! Arp!
I hear another baby seal yelping...
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:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh Please just shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O :O :O :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bhead :bhead :bhead
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shida, that was very Confucious-sounding...he's Chinese. Please stick to Japanese in the future...as its your name. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quotes from Hagakure next time then Guv'nor :old:
I just don't understand why people get bent out of shape when someone on the opposing side shoots them. It's the game. Like Colombo said, if you're in a vehicle in the arena, you're a target. If you decide to land at a field where there are enemy you deserve what you get. If you do that and a buddy of yours happens to be in a Wirble, the would-be vulcher also deserves what he gets.
I myself don't get bent out of shape and I'm no longer surprised what I see in Aces High even from members of the most long standing and so-called 'prestigious' squadrons. But let's agree to call a spade a spade shall we: hosing a damaged plane who is trying to land, for instance, is simply to do with getting another 'kill' by any means possible rather than earning it through skill & hard work.
Arp! Arp! Arp!
I hear another baby seal yelping...
Can I ask you a question SF, I looked up your score and plane choices. I don't know how long you've flown for but would you say your ACM is less that tip top?
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Can I ask you a question SF, I looked up your score and plane choices. I don't know how long you've flown for but would you say your ACM is less that tip top?
My ACM topped out before there was ever a game called Aces High. Since than it's been a long slow slid into mediocrity.
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My ACM topped out before there was ever a game called Aces High. Since than it's been a long slow slid into mediocrity.
Aha! The missing piece. Thank you for being candid.
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Well since we all want the game to be real as possible. Why not shoot a landing plane? I'm quite sure that happened often during the war. Wasn't that the preferred method for downing 262's? Also it aint very wise trying to land when you have EA flying around your base. Gotta use your head man.
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My ACM topped out before there was ever a game called Aces High. Since than it's been a long slow slid into mediocrity.
^^^ SF that is one of the best quotes I have seen on the BBS. :salute
With some of the young talent in the game, I feel like that all of the time. I have been playing Sims since FS1 on a PCJR, get my butt kicked by a 16 year old who has been playing the game for a few weeks. The getting old crap is over rated...lol.
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This statement makes you wonder what those people are missing in their non-AH life.
I think you misunderstood, I am talking about everyone in the game has an ego, from the n00b to the top. Some handle it better than others, at one stage or another it always gets the best of you. :D
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^^^ SF that is one of the best quotes I have seen on the BBS. :salute
With some of the young talent in the game, I feel like that all of the time. I have been playing Sims since FS1 on a PCJR, get my butt kicked by a 16 year old who has been playing the game for a few weeks. The getting old crap is over rated...lol.
I am convinced the only real natural gift you can have for Aces High is your ability to learn, maybe muscle co-ordination in your hand, as it is really an aqquired skillset, young people do learn better than us old gits! Its quite shocking and depressing to see how quickly kids pick this up, well for the old dudes that is :D
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Vulching someone landing with kills is only slightly less satisfying than landing kills under a vulch. :rock
<S> To whomever it was that got you. :devil
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I launched a lanc mission under an enemy fur all, downed thier HQ, and landed it two hours under the same furball.
They went after every plane headed out to the gv spawns and ignored me.
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Murphy's Law: If it can happen, it will.
At least it was your cartoon airplane, not someone broadsiding your real car.
But it does not have to
i suppose it is just a matter of being a bit zen about it all. . . just make sure that if that person ever comes around talking like they are pro. . . well you can make a montage.
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This thread reminds me of a thread I started suggesting a kill should not be registered if an aircraft's wheels were still on the ground. From that one I learned vulching was actually quite a popular pastime. :rolleyes:
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This thread reminds me of a thread I started suggesting a kill should not be registered if an aircraft's wheels were still on the ground. From that one I learned vulching was actually quite a popular pastime. :rolleyes:
Wait......, wait ..........ok now he just lifted, nail him :D
Not very sportsman like, but I confess I would do it especially during a base take, and you will see me up from a horded base and get shot down but you will never see me make a Post like the OP did.
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This thread reminds me of a thread I started suggesting a kill should not be registered if an aircraft's wheels were still on the ground. From that one I learned vulching was actually quite a popular pastime. :rolleyes:
I like that idea.
It might encourage people actually using the landing gear........to land.
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I like that idea.
It might encourage people actually using the landing gear........to land.
what does it matter to you if someone is using THEIR landing gear or not?
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I Gotta go with what Pappy Boyington did while with the Flying Tigers.I beleive 5 or 6 of his kills were ground kills. Since he was flying as a merc "$500 a kill " he got payed !
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^^^ SF that is one of the best quotes I have seen on the BBS. :salute
With some of the young talent in the game, I feel like that all of the time. I have been playing Sims since FS1 on a PCJR, get my butt kicked by a 16 year old who has been playing the game for a few weeks. The getting old crap is over rated...lol.
Gettin' old aint for wussies
Stab
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Wait......, wait ..........ok now he just lifted, nail him :D
Not very sportsman like, but I confess I would do it especially during a base take, and you will see me up from a horded base and get shot down but you will never see me make a Post like the OP did.
Vultching has a long and distinguished history.
I'd rather climb a tree and vultch ya than stand on the ground and ACMSADuel ya.
Where is Dok when ya need him. ITS ALL ABOUT THE HATE PEOPLE!
I havent flown in a couple of weeks... I feel better now.
Stab
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Most kills in one sortie (no-rearms), 20 in a P38L!!!
Deserves a star me thinks... :lol
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Not really sure why the OP is looking for a great fight in the MA, so I understand there are many other (and better) places to find such. Furthermore, the ganging up on one side that has been going for awhile will have me killing you (if your not on my team) in any way, anywhere at any time. Not complaining about it, what goes around will come around.
I can understand wanting to have a great fight, someday when my ACM improves I'll look forward to those. But I've come to understand the MA is not the optimal place to find such. I have a recent thread about HO's and the kind ppl here pointed me in the right direction, I think the same has been offered to you.
I was shot down recently while not paying attention and trying to land (land kills) on a base one sector away from a semi-large furball; frustrating yes, but was my fault for not looking to see if the base was flashing while I was coming in. Then it occurred to me, I'm sure that is a tactic employed by many; to catch ppl leaving/landing furball kills.
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Not really sure why the OP is looking for a great fight in the MA, so I understand there are many other (and better) places to find such. Furthermore, the ganging up on one side that has been going for awhile will have me killing you (if your not on my team) in any way, anywhere at any time. Not complaining about it, what goes around will come around.
I can understand wanting to have a great fight, someday when my ACM improves I'll look forward to those. But I've come to understand the MA is not the optimal place to find such. I have a recent thread about HO's and the kind ppl here pointed me in the right direction, I think the same has been offered to you.
I was shot down recently while not paying attention and trying to land (land kills) on a base one sector away from a semi-large furball; frustrating yes, but was my fault for not looking to see if the base was flashing while I was coming in. Then it occurred to me, I'm sure that is a tactic employed by many; to catch ppl leaving/landing furball kills.
Agreed...the OP is suggesting how only the testicularly challenged utilize this tactic for kills, to which, I agree.
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I like scumbag moves I once got a fat chick drunk so she would pass out so I could hookup with her good looking friend :rock :cheers: :bolt:
Oh and Score = Nothing
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Shooting down a wounded aircraft? Bad sportsmanship.
Shooting down Lancasters? It's not like it has any real defenses, so bad sportsmanship.
Shooting down someone who you had 5k of altitude on? Bad sportsmanship.
Airbases are not safe zones, and if you fail to keep an eye out for icons that shot up when an enemy is 6km's away, then that's your fault.
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I like scumbag moves I once got a fat chick drunk so she would pass out so I could hookup with her good looking friend :rock :cheers: :bolt:
Oh and Score = Nothing
So you must not have scored then.
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what does it matter to you if someone is using THEIR landing gear or not?
easy one.. b/c badguys landing gear up presents less time the vulcher has to vulch.. take for instance the other night.. I'm landing my wounded plane and Pand swoops down and tries to vulch me landing.. He was actually one of two to make the attempt.. They both fail and I exit and laugh.. Had I landed wheels down I believe pand might have gotten me.. Yup, I think that was the closest Pand has gotten in a long time.. :D
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easy one.. b/c badguys landing gear up presents less time the vulcher has to vulch.. take for instance the other night.. I'm landing my wounded plane and Pand swoops down and tries to vulch me landing.. He was actually one of two to make the attempt.. They both fail and I exit and laugh.. Had I landed wheels down I believe pand might have gotten me.. Yup, I think that was the closest Pand has gotten in a long time.. :D
:rofl :rofl
I actually never thought of it like that......that explains it perfectly.
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what does it matter to you if someone is using THEIR landing gear or not?
Pretty sure I have seen the Headhunters try this more than once...
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easy one.. b/c badguys landing gear up presents less time the vulcher has to vulch.. take for instance the other night.. I'm landing my wounded plane and Pand swoops down and tries to vulch me landing.. He was actually one of two to make the attempt.. They both fail and I exit and laugh.. Had I landed wheels down I believe pand might have gotten me.. Yup, I think that was the closest Pand has gotten in a long time.. :D
YOu mean he took time away from his picking to vulch?
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In this game sadly there are those who were raised in the Xbox tradition of anyway to win is ok.
Last night I had a -4 hog run from my -1, then return to pick me off a 47N. When I asked why he did that, his response was pretty much it's my $15. Makes sense that his squad fell apart, zero class.
It stinks, but in the MA, you have to watch out for the scumbags who get off on killing only the defenseless. Some make a liviing at it (so to speak).
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In this game sadly there are those who were raised in the Xbox tradition of anyway to win is ok.
Last night I had a -4 hog run from my -1, then return to pick me off a 47N. When I asked why he did that, his response was pretty much it's my $15. Makes sense that his squad fell apart, zero class.
It stinks, but in the MA, you have to watch out for the scumbags who get off on killing only the defenseless. Some make a liviing at it (so to speak).
Exiting the fight and returning to kill someone you missed is an absolute certainty...everyone has done it....everyone. The lure is too great and you've probably gotten yourself tangled up with another con and that makes it even more appealing!! Lmfao
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What about jumping a p51 that is at 30k over tank town who decided he didn't need to look up........from 40,000 feet?
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*contemplates new year's resolution involving only flying below 300 feet, no faster than 150mph, and claiming moral high ground when people attack me because they had an advantage*
You put yourself in a bad situation, people will take advantage. As it should be.
What about jumping a p51 that is at 30k over tank town who decided he didn't need to look up........from 40,000 feet?
Hehe, I've been on both ends of that one. Sometimes I'll form up with the guy.
Wiley.
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Exiting the fight and returning to kill someone you missed is an absolute certainty...everyone has done it....everyone. The lure is too great and you've probably gotten yourself tangled up with another con and that makes it even more appealing!! Lmfao
clearly the game to you is about the kill. To me, it's about the fight.
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easy one.. b/c badguys landing gear up presents less time the vulcher has to vulch.. take for instance the other night.. I'm landing my wounded plane and Pand swoops down and tries to vulch me landing.. He was actually one of two to make the attempt.. They both fail and I exit and laugh.. Had I landed wheels down I believe pand might have gotten me.. Yup, I think that was the closest Pand has gotten in a long time.. :D
Pending the situation around me, I'll often *attempt* to finish a kill once they've been damaged to the point they decide they need to land. I wounded 4 aircraft that run that took solid hits and then immediately rtb'd (the smart thing to do). Unfortunately, my 4x50's don't punch like the German spud tossers. Anyway, nice short landing, I just started getting pings right when you disappeared! :bolt:
Yup, I think that was the closest Pand has gotten in a long time.. :D
Not that long ago (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinp.php?playername=Pand&selectTour=LWTour154&pindex=45&kname=kappa)... What were you doing in that thing anyway :P
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I have no problem at all shooting up a damaged aircraft, they always have the option to bail out before I open fire if they don't want to be killed.
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Quotes from Hagakure next time then Guv'nor :old:
I myself don't get bent out of shape and I'm no longer surprised what I see in Aces High even from members of the most long standing and so-called 'prestigious' squadrons. But let's agree to call a spade a spade shall we: hosing a damaged plane who is trying to land, for instance, is simply to do with getting another 'kill' by any means possible rather than earning it through skill & hard work.
Can I ask you a question SF, I looked up your score and plane choices. I don't know how long you've flown for but would you say your ACM is less that tip top?
I prefer it when you sound like Musashi .
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clearly the game to you is about the kill. To me, it's about the fight.
Nothing could be further from the truth .
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Nothing could be further from the truth .
I hate scumbag maneuvers too, like when guys rocket my f4u4 in the DA with a tbm.......................... .................
:noid :noid :noid
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Not really sure why the OP is looking for a great fight in the MA, so I understand there are many other (and better) places to find such. Furthermore, the ganging up on one side that has been going for awhile will have me killing you (if your not on my team) in any way, anywhere at any time. Not complaining about it, what goes around will come around.
I can understand wanting to have a great fight, someday when my ACM improves I'll look forward to those. But I've come to understand the MA is not the optimal place to find such. I have a recent thread about HO's and the kind ppl here pointed me in the right direction, I think the same has been offered to you.
I was shot down recently while not paying attention and trying to land (land kills) on a base one sector away from a semi-large furball; frustrating yes, but was my fault for not looking to see if the base was flashing while I was coming in. Then it occurred to me, I'm sure that is a tactic employed by many; to catch ppl leaving/landing furball kills.
The force is strong in this young BBS jedi. Well done young one. Your wisdom is universal and flows over into the etiquette post as well.
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clearly the game to you is about the kill. To me, it's about the fight.
Youre nuts. I can spend all night in the DA with you 1 v 1 win or lose. Ask your squadmates who is rarely above 7K but on the deck immediately looking for a fight...hell, ask the guys I fly with! I've heard, "why are you down there???" about a gazillion times. I was commenting on your observation and how naive it is.
If you're all about the fight, I will be more than happy to spend lots of time in the DA with you, win or lose...we can "it's all about the fight" all night long. We'll see how much about the fight you are. This isn't a manly tough guy comment...it's just an invite to fight if you're so inclined to do as you say.
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The force is strong in this young BBS jedi. Well done young one. Your wisdom is universal and flows over into the etiquette post as well.
Good evening Mr Muzik! Long time, no see sir....if you're back in the air I'd like some quality DA time please.
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Good evening Mr Muzik! Long time, no see sir....if you're back in the air I'd like some quality DA time please.
Evenin.
I don't shade bud, cept maybe for a month or so to get my feet wet. If I was playing, gladly.
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Evenin.
I don't shade bud, cept maybe for a month or so to get my feet wet. If I was playing, gladly.
Well come on back...lots of others have lately.
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Not that long ago (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsinp.php?playername=Pand&selectTour=LWTour154&pindex=45&kname=kappa)... What were you doing in that thing anyway :P
It was an imposter.. I swear! :D
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Well come on back...lots of others have lately.
Still got a project keeping me occupied. Will stop by someday, when I accomplished what I set out to do.
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Still got a project keeping me occupied. Will stop by someday, when I accomplished what I set out to do.
Good luck MUZIK. If memory serves, it was a noble, entertaining endeavor.
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Concerning the original post: There is lots of gun camera footage on the web of target aircraft shot up while on final approach with gear down. A kill is a kill and it's your 6 o'clock to check before you attempt a landing at a flashing base. :devil
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:uhoh
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Concerning the original post: There is lots of gun camera footage on the web of target aircraft shot up while on final approach with gear down. A kill is a kill and it's your 6 o'clock to check before you attempt a landing at a flashing base. :devil
...and in the interests of authenticity the next time your plane explodes in Aces High please leave and never come back. That's what they did in the war.
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...and in the interests of authenticity the next time your plane explodes in Aces High please leave and never come back. That's what they did in the war.
lol that seems fair. being in the name of authenticity and all. that "it happened in ww2" excuse is one of the lamest , total babboon excuses in the game. its just an excuse to play dirty. whats sad, is how many others will pat him on the back for gettin a non challenge kill. those are the instant gratification people who have no desire to outfly anyone. my personal opinion is that they are probably sorry like that in real life too. bc i dont think you can just flip a switch and become a dbag ingame, and then log off and go back to the monastery. you are what you are. all AH does is give a place for that sorryness to bud out a little. its practice. the more you are sorry, the easier it is to do. it surely doesnt end when they log off.
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lol that seems fair. being in the name of authenticity and all. that "it happened in ww2" excuse is one of the lamest , total babboon excuses in the game. its just an excuse to play dirty. whats sad, is how many others will pat him on the back for gettin a non challenge kill. those are the instant gratification people who have no desire to outfly anyone. my personal opinion is that they are probably sorry like that in real life too. bc i dont think you can just flip a switch and become a dbag ingame, and then log off and go back to the monastery. you are what you are. all AH does is give a place for that sorryness to bud out a little. its practice. the more you are sorry, the easier it is to do. it surely doesnt end when they log off.
pathetic
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lol that seems fair. being in the name of authenticity and all. that "it happened in ww2" excuse is one of the lamest , total babboon excuses in the game. its just an excuse to play dirty. whats sad, is how many others will pat him on the back for gettin a non challenge kill. those are the instant gratification people who have no desire to outfly anyone. my personal opinion is that they are probably sorry like that in real life too. bc i dont think you can just flip a switch and become a dbag ingame, and then log off and go back to the monastery. you are what you are. all AH does is give a place for that sorryness to bud out a little. its practice. the more you are sorry, the easier it is to do. it surely doesnt end when they log off.
And players who switch countries in the game can't be trusted in real life either. They would betray their real country in a hurry as well! :old:
I think I will compile a list of sideswitchers hand hand it over to the authorities :salute
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And players who switch countries in the game can't be trusted in real life either. They would betray their real country in a hurry as well! :old:
I think I will compile a list of sideswitchers hand hand it over to the authorities :salute
I think you're missing the bigger issue here... Look at the gameplay in this game. We fly around in aircraft with guns mounted on them and shoot at other people(!) Clearly we all need to be locked up because if we do it in the game, we must be like that in real life. So, I can expect the line to turn ourselves in to start with VuduVee, right?
:aok
Wiley.
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I think you're missing the bigger issue here... Look at the gameplay in this game. We fly around in aircraft with guns mounted on them and shoot at other people(!) Clearly we all need to be locked up because if we do it in the game, we must be like that in real life. So, I can expect the line to turn ourselves in to start with VuduVee, right?
:aok
Wiley.
you can manipulate my words all you want. i stand by them. you surely get the gist of my post. you are what you are, logging into a game doesnt change jack.
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easy one.. b/c badguys landing gear up presents less time the vulcher has to vulch.. take for instance the other night.. I'm landing my wounded plane and Pand swoops down and tries to vulch me landing.. He was actually one of two to make the attempt.. They both fail and I exit and laugh.. Had I landed wheels down I believe pand might have gotten me.. Yup, I think that was the closest Pand has gotten in a long time.. :D
Admit it, you didn't "exit and laugh" you frantically got out, and when you realized you made it you cackled with insane glee like an 11 year old girl on a pixie stick high.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m546lpetW31qihztbo1_400.gif)
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you can manipulate my words all you want. i stand by them. you surely get the gist of my post. you are what you are, logging into a game doesnt change jack.
Yup. The arena's set up as an all out brawl, you want everybody around you to bend around your precious 1v1 duel. Clearly everybody else is in the wrong.
Wiley.
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And players who switch countries in the game can't be trusted in real life either. They would betray their real country in a hurry as well! :old:
I think I will compile a list of sideswitchers hand hand it over to the authorities :salute
At least the side switchers are ready to die for their new country! Most double agents are wussies and will give up the location of a CV if you just pour a cup of water on their head. Candyazzes.
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pathetic
VuduVee is right in that the 'they did it in the war' b/s is mostly used simply to justify 'scumbag manoeuvres'. All of the hyperbole and straw manning in this thread (where is Mr. Coombz when you need him), some of it from some of the more experienced players cannot deflect the core issue that if you are the second, third or fourth fighter to join a 1 on 1 you are just ganging the opponent to get the kill registered and not providing 'mutual support' as they did in the war or even for the most part helping your team mate. 95% of the time you are helping yourself. Take it from someone who spends most of his time holding the sh*tty end of the '1 vs many' stick. Sometimes I have to laugh to myself as I watch them desperately fall over each other to be the one who gets the 'kill'.
I don't expect a duel in the MA, much of the time I'm looking for a couple to fight at once because it gives them the courage to actually engage rather than stay at arms length posturing while they scrabble for an advantage. The longer my engagements with one or two go, I know it will be shortly a one on three, four, five even, actually there seems to be no upper limit and some of them will HO and zero-risk BnZ you even then. Like my friend Slimmer used to say: like chickens when you throw some grain on the ground. This to my eyes is pathetic to see.
Muzik is right actually 'honour' taken to an extreme is equally absurd and an unrealistic & an impractical proposition. Some of the 'honourable school of thought' players here actually rely on a degree of scumbaggery on the part of their opponents to get a decent fight. Every now and then you are going to 'help' one of these players with an opponent and incur a thorough verbal thrashing. God help your fragile ego if it is someone like BiPoLar, I have witnessed him strip layers of ego protection and self-delusion from a player in minutes and make them leave the arena considering their ways in humiliation & embarrassment.
This state of affairs will not change while there is a higher value placed on the outcome rather than on the actual activity and that is alright. I myself do appreciate and value the diversity that players have regarding motivation and method but as I said previously: let us at least agree to call a spade a spade.
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All of the hyperbole and straw manning in this thread (where is Mr. Coombz when you need him), some of it from some of the more experienced players cannot deflect the core issue
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new year, same threads eh? :old: hehe
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Crikey. Mention his name and he appears :devil
Happy New Year Mr. Coombz.
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What's so bloody happy about it? :( I have been having a fine old time over the holiday season, but I am now back at work :bhead
All grumpiness aside, happy new year to you too sir, and I hope you and the shida family are doing well ;----)
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VuduVee is right in that the 'they did it in the war' b/s is mostly used simply to justify 'scumbag manoeuvres'. All of the hyperbole and straw manning in this thread (where is Mr. Coombz when you need him), some of it from some of the more experienced players cannot deflect the core issue that if you are the second, third or fourth fighter to join a 1 on 1 you are just ganging the opponent to get the kill registered and not providing 'mutual support' as they did in the war or even for the most part helping your team mate. 95% of the time you are helping yourself. Take it from someone who spends most of his time holding the sh*tty end of the '1 vs many' stick. Sometimes I have to laugh to myself as I watch them desperately fall over each other to be the one who gets the 'kill'.
I don't expect a duel in the MA, much of the time I'm looking for a couple to fight at once because it gives them the courage to actually engage rather than stay at arms length posturing while they scrabble for an advantage. The longer my engagements with one or two go, I know it will be shortly a one on three, four, five even, actually there seems to be no upper limit and some of them will HO and zero-risk BnZ you even then. Like my friend Slimmer used to say: like chickens when you throw some grain on the ground. This to my eyes is pathetic to see.
Muzik is right actually 'honour' taken to an extreme is equally absurd and an unrealistic & an impractical proposition. Some of the 'honourable school of thought' players here actually rely on a degree of scumbaggery on the part of their opponents to get a decent fight. Every now and then you are going to 'help' one of these players with an opponent and incur a thorough verbal thrashing. God help your fragile ego if it is someone like BiPoLar, I have witnessed him strip layers of ego protection and self-delusion from a player in minutes and make them leave the arena considering their ways in humiliation & embarrassment.
This state of affairs will not change while there is a higher value placed on the outcome rather than on the actual activity and that is alright. I myself do appreciate and value the diversity that players have regarding motivation and method but as I said previously: let us at least agree to call a spade a spade.
LOL.
Go back about 5 pages, maybe you'll clue in to why I responded the way I did.
Now spit your hook out.
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LOL.
Go back about 5 pages, maybe you'll clue in to why I responded the way I did.
Now spit your hook out.
damit SF! quit copying me! haha SF is just trolling me/needling me shida. a few pages ago he said something to the effect that he likes to get under peoples skin just to do it and it makes him feel good to do it. i responded that it was pathetic and now hes copying me. make him stop please, my paper tiger is gettin shredded by his lethal typing skills.