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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: kilo2 on May 02, 2010, 06:41:37 AM
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get bashed?
I checked out FA forums and saw something about Warbirds never heard about it. Checked it out and looked about there forums. And i have to say there is a a lot of stuff posted about aces high
and the community being a bunch of egotistical petulant children. Why I wonder do they think that? Is there some history I am missing. While I have seen some aruments and things said about
people I have learned that someone you can dislike one second can be someone you are laughing with the next. My opinion although biased is this community is great. :salute
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Sour grapes.
The only people left at WB are the ones who for one reason or another refuse to switch to AH.
Mac users, pilots who gave AH a half hour try and got their ego's bruised, etc.
They are really upset with AH right now because with FA closing the handwriting is on the wall for them.
They "need" each and every one of those FA pilots to try to keep WB alive.
And they see the majority headed off to AH land.
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and the community being a bunch of egotistical petulant children. Why I wonder do they think that? Is there some history I am missing.
Because we do have our number of egoistical petulant children here. But tho do they. And then the usual kindergarten squabble kicks in:
"Your sim sucks!" - "No your does"
"Performance of planes is fudged there!" "LOL, wanna tell me your arcade stuff is better?"
Warbirds offer an extended tryout period for FA players. AH Player: "LOL, they are desperate!" AH does a similar thing. WB player: "unfair!", "Agressive propaganda!" sigh
And so on. People holding personal grudges will join the "other side" and try to start a personal crusade and mix facts with opinions and prejudices and hurt personal feelings. Others may think they have to "defend" their sim and/or comrades no matter what and will join it. And quickly it becomes simply a matter of "US" vs "THEM". Happens on both sides.
That kind of stuff frequently reminds me of The Judean People's Front vs The People's Front of Judea...
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The only people left at WB are the ones who for one reason or another refuse to switch to AH.
Mac users, pilots who gave AH a half hour try and got their ego's bruised, etc.
I use a Mac....and play AH.
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I use a Mac....and play AH.
Oh noes!! Mac haXX0r!!!!!!! THAT explains your adept l33tn3ss!!
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I use a Mac....and play AH.
Just for you Killnu......hey that sings <G> :aok
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z207/Pimpzdog/800px-Choco_chip_cookie.jpg)
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get bashed?
I checked out FA forums and saw something about Warbirds never heard about it. Checked it out and looked about there forums. And i have to say there is a a lot of stuff posted about aces high
and the community being a bunch of egotistical petulant children. Why I wonder do they think that? Is there some history I am missing. While I have seen some aruments and things said about
people I have learned that someone you can dislike one second can be someone you are laughing with the next. My opinion although biased is this community is great. :salute
I think it's a few things combined...
Yes, there are definitely "rough edges" to this community. However, that is completely dependant on the approach taken by the new player most times.
Here are a few examples of new players, and the typical response :
New player in game - HOW DO I TAKE OFF?!
Vet 1 - Hit Alt-F4
Vet 2 - RTFM
Vet 3 - Go to the Training Arena!
New player's experience? "They're all a bunch of Jerks"
New player in game 2 - Hello Bishops!
Vet 1 - JOIN MISSION IN 5 MINUTES
Vet 2 - Hello New Player! <S>
Vet 3 - NME CV 12,5,9
New player's experience? "Not sure what all that means but all right!"
New player in BBS - Hello Everyone. I am having trouble, can you help?
Vet 1 - Sure, what do you need help with?
Experience? Generally good.
New player in BBS - The 190 is borked! It doesn't turn fast enough. Your Mosquito is wrong! How can a P-38 turn tighter than my Spitfire?!
Vet 1 - Because you suck
Vet 2 - Because you're an idiot
Vet 3 - Proof, more proof, and nothing but the proof.
Experience? These guys are A-holes.
So you see, it's not that this community isn't a bit "rough" (it can be), but at the same time, people sometimes like to poke it with a stick, and instead of taking the advice they are given, the new player gets insulted and considers some AH folks to be a bunch of bad guys.
A LOT of the people here have been around for many, many years. They've seen just about every time of new player there can be, and unfortunately, if the new player expects everything handed to them on a silver platter, some members can slam the new guy down pretty harsh. But if you're reasonable and open to new concepts/ideas/learning, this community, I've found, is some of the nicest, most informative, and most helpful I've seen on the Net. :salute
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get bashed?
I checked out FA forums and saw something about Warbirds never heard about it. Checked it out and looked about there forums. And i have to say there is a a lot of stuff posted about aces high
and the community being a bunch of egotistical petulant children. Why I wonder do they think that? Is there some history I am missing. While I have seen some aruments and things said about
people I have learned that someone you can dislike one second can be someone you are laughing with the next. My opinion although biased is this community is great. :salute
HiTech created both sims.
This one is better.
WarBirds started dying the moment HiTech left to make AcesHigh.
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HiTech created both sims.
This one is better.
WarBirds started dying the moment HiTech left to make AcesHigh.
nailed, set, puddied, sanded, and painted...<- (yes that is long and annoying huh?) :aok
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Were like eagles fans imo, loyal but one crazy,rowdy bunch.
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I hate the people who answer other players questions with Alt+F4.
I just went to download WB3, they wanted my CC info first... Hell noes, just let me try it out before you get your claws in! I also went to sign up to their forum, you need an active account... sigh.
I looked at some screen shots, the game looks 15 years old but at least they can get the sky looking right. <hint> :D
(http://www.cdaccess.com/gifs/screen/warbird3a.jpg)
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IL-2, WB, FA all have one thing in common to me, I've never spent a second playing them.
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IL-2, WB, FA all have one thing in common to me, I've never spent a second playing them.
I played WBs for a day...couldnt even find out how to type.
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AH2 players online: 260.
WB3 players online: 50.
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This sounds like college football fan bashing some team or conference. Why this team should not be #1 and their team should. It never ends.
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Just for you Killnu......hey that sings <G> :aok
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z207/Pimpzdog/800px-Choco_chip_cookie.jpg)
Please Pipz !!!! no more singing !!! :D
IL-2, WB, FA all have one thing in common to me, I've never spent a second playing them.
I tried them all, thats why I have been here for 10 years :aok
Ya we have some .... ummmm.... "winners" here, but for the most part this is a pretty good group of folks. Here is where I stayed because I could get answers. Learning a new "game" is hard enough, a little help is always great. Too often I'd get no response in those other games to my questions.
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That kind of stuff frequently reminds me of The Judean People's Front vs The People's Front of Judea...
The Judean People's Front!?!
Splitters!!
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.............And i have to say there is a a lot of stuff posted about aces high
and the community being a bunch of egotistical petulant children. Why I wonder do they think that? Is there some history I am missing.
I doubt there is a higher purportion of "jerks" here than in any other air combat sim - it's just a question of #'s - lets assume (right or wrong) that 5% of online players are "egotistical petulant children" :
WB - 60 players online x's 5% = 3 online
AH - 500 players online x's 5% = 25 online
Goes to figure those 25 are going to have a larger impact in 200 at any one time than the 3 over in WB's.
By far and large I find the vast majority of AH players to be just as sane and respectful as those in any other air combat sim.
Have been here now for over a year and spent many years in WB's and I feel both have numerous good and bad points - about equal I'd say without getting in specifics (ie : eye candy far superior here but WB's has a major graphics update in the making - etc etc).
Where AH holds a HUGE advantage - head and shoulders above WB's is in it's management relationship with it's customer base. NO WHERE in WB's have I ever seen the owners/management of WB "walk" in the streets with it's customers in daily discussion of various aspects of the sim. Not always in agreement nor always prepared to move on issues as some would like - never the less HiTech and his gang are tuned into the pulse of it's players. :aok
Bill could learn a thing or two from Dale.'
....cheers eh! :D
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I love the fact that HiTech and gang are active on the forum. I don't know any other game devs that do the same.
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When the general chatter on 200 consists of assinine b.s. from the same crowd who lose sleep over who can stir a joystick better than others here in the forums...new people are going to get the "alt+F4" response to questions...it's usually a combination of "alt+F4", "go to the TA" and "RTFM"...none of which is helpful by any stretch of the imagination.
On the flip side of the coin, if the new people would spend more than 5 seconds looking through the help, FAQ and tutorials posted everywhere, then familiarize themselves with the default keyboard mappings...there would be less need to answer questions like "how do I land?"...
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:rofl are we being bashed over at the other bankrupt game forums? Well that is alarming to say the least. :rofl
If the competition is not talking bad about you, you're doing something wrong. :aok
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:rofl are we being bashed over at the other bankrupt game forums? Well that is alarming to say the least. :rofl
If the competition is not talking bad about you, you're doing something wrong. :aok
It's not AH that is getting bashed...it's the community.
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It has been years since I've been to the WB3 forums, but when I was last there it was the same as it is here. People talking about what aircraft they want, which aircraft is porked (usually German ones) and how the game has gone to hell compared to the good old days.
As to the Alt-F4 thing, I would be perfectly happy if HiTech were to code it into the game that if one types any of the following: "alt-f4, Alt-f4, alt-F4, Alt-F4, ALT-F4, alt f4, Alt f4, alt F4, Alt F4, ALT F4" into the text buffer it dumps you to the desktop. More reasonably, perhaps they should be added to a text filter and blocked. The joke was juvenile to begin with and is only sad and pathetic now. If the new player is computer illiterate to not know what Alt-F4 does it will seem like the game is buggy and crashed to them. That joke does nobody any good.
Many of us have taken hours of our time to help new players when we bump into them and they are struggling.
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The community is AH imo. I like a spirited aggressive crowd. We have a lot of alpha male types in here. Military both ex and current, cops, firefighters, etc. You get them all in one place to play war and watermelon is going to fly. That's why I love this game. I want to play with folks that have a competitive attitude and hate to lose. You show me a crowd with no attitude and takes a beating with a smile, and i'll show you a group of losers.
I personally like this crowd of jerks we have here because I've always ran with a rough crowd in real life. My friends say what's on their minds. I respect that....always have. I've never been the countryclub, hang out at the piano bar type. You give me a pool table, a smoked filled beer joint with a few rednecks fixing to throw down with some bikers over at the jukebox, and i'll show you of hell of a good time. :cheers:
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IL-2, WB, FA all have one thing in common to me, I've never spent a second playing them.
They have no idea how lucky they are :D
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Heck ya!!1!
We need a serious answer to questions like "what are the cheat codes?" or "how do I go faster?"
Lighten up Francis.
Alt + F4 is more a right of passage and, if anything, should be encouraged in the "bestest" and fullest MA as a means to let those who cannot get in "to fly with their squad" a shorter wait.
:aok :banana: :rofl
wrongway
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I must admit a few years ago I did my "alt f4" telling time...but now I'd rather help the guy out since, like said, if they are brand new and alt f4, who knows if they'll even bother opening the game again.
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I completely agree with wrongway, if you are too lazy to at least go to the settings menu and take a quick look at the basic controls the "right of passage" shall be placed upon you in all its glory. I mean almost EVERYONE has either fell or said the alt f4 joke, hell I fell for it indirectly.
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lol i must admit over 8 years ago i fell for that when KO told me thats how i accept his Invatation to Join the Squad lol it was funny as heck, sure do miss KO thou :salute
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sure do miss KO thou
just hit alt-f4, he'll come back......... :noid
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umm you do know he passed away right?
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just hit alt-f4, he'll come back......... :noid
<---wiping mountain dew off my keyboard and monitor.
Don't do that Irish!!!
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yea real funny......
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yea real funny......
Don't get your panties in a wad...I'm willing to bet Irish had no idea.
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just hit alt-f4, he'll come back......... :noid
That's kinda low...
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Spikes , its cool he didnt know, we PM'd each other its all good :cheers:
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Heck ya!!1!
We need a serious answer to questions like "what are the cheat codes?" or "how do I go faster?"
wrongway
Just explain the dot commands to them, .extra armor .doubleammo .turbo but don't bother to tell them about .invincible because they won't have the perks for it. :devil
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I think it's a few things combined...
Yes, there are definitely "rough edges" to this community. However, that is completely dependant on the approach taken by the new player most times.
Here are a few examples of new players, and the typical response :
New player in game - HOW DO I TAKE OFF?!
Vet 1 - Hit Alt-F4
Vet 2 - RTFM
Vet 3 - Go to the Training Arena!
New player's experience? "They're all a bunch of Jerks"
New player in game 2 - Hello Bishops!
Vet 1 - JOIN MISSION IN 5 MINUTES
Vet 2 - Hello New Player! <S>
Vet 3 - NME CV 12,5,9
New player's experience? "Not sure what all that means but all right!"
New player in BBS - Hello Everyone. I am having trouble, can you help?
Vet 1 - Sure, what do you need help with?
Experience? Generally good.
New player in BBS - The 190 is borked! It doesn't turn fast enough. Your Mosquito is wrong! How can a P-38 turn tighter than my Spitfire?!
Vet 1 - Because you suck
Vet 2 - Because you're an idiot
Vet 3 - Proof, more proof, and nothing but the proof.
Experience? These guys are A-holes.
So you see, it's not that this community isn't a bit "rough" (it can be), but at the same time, people sometimes like to poke it with a stick, and instead of taking the advice they are given, the new player gets insulted and considers some AH folks to be a bunch of bad guys.
A LOT of the people here have been around for many, many years. They've seen just about every time of new player there can be, and unfortunately, if the new player expects everything handed to them on a silver platter, some members can slam the new guy down pretty harsh. But if you're reasonable and open to new concepts/ideas/learning, this community, I've found, is some of the nicest, most informative, and most helpful I've seen on the Net. :salute
a lot of that goes on in every game to new players. another thing there is a much higher volume of young players now a days than i can recall. I couldn't say how that compares to the ratio of young players in WB. Also seems theres a high player base roll over rate. Though there is quite a few players from early days still around theres a lot more that no longer play. Whether it be boredom, growing up, or just lack of interest in general. But even that is natural i am sure with any game.
Anyways, I would doubt any one community of gamers is drastically different, better, or worse than another. Especially, if they're of the same type.
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Spikes , its cool he didnt know, we PM'd each other its all good :cheers:
Rgr that.
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I spent a decade in Warbirds before moving to Aces High. I was extremely involved in Warbirds in several different areas to the point it amounted to 20 hours a week of non-flying activity.
Aces High is a very similar product but has some key differences that make it much better.
Aces High is better but it isn't perfect.
My only major complaint about Aces High is community related.
Back in Warbirds (when i played, I can't answer for the last 5 years or so) dying was your own fault. Players took personal responsibility for their own failures.
Poor situational awareness was no excuse for getting killed and certainly was no reason to start abusing the guy who killed you on a text channel. There was no such thing as "picking", "gang banging", "kill stealing" or interrupting a 1 v 1 in a primary arena. Picking was poor SA on the part of the one picked. Getting into a fight with too many bandits for one to handle successfully was poor head work. "Kill Stealing" was better markmanship. And interrupting a 1 v 1 is the entire point of massively multiplayer online gaming. Of course there were some players who complained about those sorts of things but they were the minority and were quickly shouted down with choruses of "shut up and die like a man".
But I have reconciled myself to the fact that those days are gone forever. Personal responsibility is basically dead inside and outside of this game.
Why fight it?
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That kind of stuff frequently reminds me of The Judean People's Front vs The People's Front of Judea...
:aok
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Dawger when 300 people are flying you don't hear 300 complaints. Don't tune 200 and squelch 2-3 people on local and it's like flying with grownups.
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get bashed?
I checked out FA forums and saw something about Warbirds never heard about it. Checked it out and looked about there forums. And i have to say there is a a lot of stuff posted about aces high
and the community being a bunch of egotistical petulant children. Why I wonder do they think that? Is there some history I am missing. While I have seen some aruments and things said about
people I have learned that someone you can dislike one second can be someone you are laughing with the next. My opinion although biased is this community is great. :salute
Look in a mirror.
HiTech
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just hit alt-f4, he'll come back......... :noid
my sincerest apologies all, i had no idea that he had passed away :frown: srry if i've ruffled any feathers :salute
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Look in a mirror.
HiTech
:aok
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Look in a mirror.
HiTech
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7244/e226.gif) (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/e226.gif/)
Where else can you go & get slammed by the man himself? That's why this "community" is great. A big dysfunctional family. I wouldn't have it any other way. Just think for a minute how boring these boards would be if it were not so.
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Poor situational awareness was no excuse for getting killed and certainly was no reason to start abusing the guy who killed you on a text channel. There was no such thing as "picking", "gang banging", "kill stealing" or interrupting a 1 v 1 in a primary arena. Picking was poor SA on the part of the one picked. Getting into a fight with too many bandits for one to handle successfully was poor head work. "Kill Stealing" was better markmanship. And interrupting a 1 v 1 is the entire point of massively multiplayer online gaming. Of course there were some players who complained about those sorts of things but they were the minority and were quickly shouted down with choruses of "shut up and die like a man".
Yes.... the good old days. I miss them. :)
Cav
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get bashed?
I checked out FA forums and saw something about Warbirds never heard about it. Checked it out and looked about there forums. And i have to say there is a a lot of stuff posted about aces high
notice who the person that is complaining the loudest about AH in the WB forums and that's pretty much all you need to know about their opinions. Basically, the ones still playing WB on a regular basis are the ones that been unable to extricate their heads out of WildBill's ass.
ack-ack
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notice who the person that is complaining the loudest about AH in the WB forums and that's pretty much all you need to know about their opinions. Basically, the ones still playing WB on a regular basis are the ones that been unable to extricate their heads out of WildBill's ass.
ack-ack
Ack-Ack you would be no different if the tables were turned...I know the guy and though he may not convey his ideas in a manner that suits all you fanboiz he's not thumping his cyber chest about how great a stick he is as if it makes him a man in some obscure manner. Try changing tactics instead of just flaming away and you might see different results.
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http://forum2.totalsims.com/viewtopic.php?t=8516
:rofl
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http://forum2.totalsims.com/viewtopic.php?t=8516
:rofl
You're laughing about a thread from 2008? Talk about necro lame... :aok
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Same tone to his post today as they were back then...
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So AcesHigh is easy mode compared to WB? :uhoh Thorism must REALLY suck over there. ;)
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So... somebody asks why AH is bashed and the first response is to bash in return?
Lighten up, folks.
Like many seemingly irrational fights, this one has a root that reaches back in history. It is the Toledo Border War for Aces High, if you will.
Hitech wanted to code a force-based flight sim. He was told no, we'll do it this way. So sure was Hitech that he could build a better sim that he started his own company. He got it up and running and it was a worthy game to play. Folks flocked to it. It wasn't vapor ware. It wasn't freeware that never gets updated. It wasn't many things that other little upstart games tried to be. It was an actual game! Folks liked it. In fact, many folks left WB to come to AH. There are many other reasons (folks get snubbed on both sides, hold grudges, and smear the other side on their respective forums) but IMO the root was taking customers away from Wild Bill. Without AH, folks would have just moved on to something else. It just happens AH was the thing they moved on to, hence we get the evil eye.
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HiTech is it weird when I look in the mirror I see a leather thong with goggles and storm trooper boots? :uhoh
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HiTech is it weird when I look in the mirror I see a leather thong with goggles and storm trooper boots? :uhoh
It only gets weird if the leather gets wet. :old:
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err um mm... well i guess ill never fly in my Pink Elephant thong ever again :bolt:
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So AcesHigh is easy mode compared to WB? :uhoh Thorism must REALLY suck over there. ;)
That was what a lot of old WBs fans thought...especially the ones who were there from the beginning. To be honest, before the graphics update, I thought AH was no better than WBs...kinda reminded me of MS Combat Flight Simulator...grainy and not that great...in offline mode, even the flight models on the 109s seemed the same.
The same crap gets said here about other sims...it's not like AH is full of saints who never say a bad thing about anything or anyone.
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Lusche, We need a pie chart here of the different games/bbs of ppl who say AH sucks/don't suck, etc :rock
<S> Oz
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The first time I tried AH was during the AH versus Warbirds Duel and it did seem an easier flight model than the one Warbirds had at the time. Not necessarily better, just easier. Neither was very accurate. The biggest difference back then was gunnery in Aces High was very easy, so easy that it forced different tactics.
In the intervening years Warbirds severely screwed up its flight model. Part of that involved a character HiTech ran off from here. He was an incompetent boob with the ability to post lots of graphs and charts. He didn't pass the smell test and Dan ran him off but Warbirds believed he was legit, unfortunately. Warbirds implemented a Coefficient of Lift change that royally screwed with the FM and my entire squadron left and came over to Aces High.
Unfortunately, there are very few of the guys left for a lot of different reasons. Mostly we are just getting old I think and playing with kids just isn't as fun as it might look.
Aces High has a good flight model, better than Warbirds probably although since I haven't flown Warbirds in years I can't know for sure. Gunnery is still too easy, too much of a straight line and it changes the dynamic of the fight considerably but I'm not sure if that is the icon or the gunnery physics.
I say that because the no icon fights in the AvA are an entirely different type and seem to negate the guns to some extent.
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The first time I tried AH was during the AH versus Warbirds Duel and it did seem an easier flight model than the one Warbirds had at the time. Not necessarily better, just easier. Neither was very accurate. The biggest difference back then was gunnery in Aces High was very easy, so easy that it forced different tactics.
In the intervening years Warbirds severely screwed up its flight model. Part of that involved a character HiTech ran off from here. He was an incompetent boob with the ability to post lots of graphs and charts. He didn't pass the smell test and Dan ran him off but Warbirds believed he was legit, unfortunately. Warbirds implemented a Coefficient of Lift change that royally screwed with the FM and my entire squadron left and came over to Aces High.
Unfortunately, there are very few of the guys left for a lot of different reasons. Mostly we are just getting old I think and playing with kids just isn't as fun as it might look.
Aces High has a good flight model, better than Warbirds probably although since I haven't flown Warbirds in years I can't know for sure. Gunnery is still too easy, too much of a straight line and it changes the dynamic of the fight considerably but I'm not sure if that is the icon or the gunnery physics.
I say that because the no icon fights in the AvA are an entirely different type and seem to negate the guns to some extent.
this gunnery thing in my opinion has alot to do with plane speed and yes the icon makes it much easier to find and hit targets. In my opinion only though
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He was an incompetent boob with the ability to post lots of graphs and charts.
:uhoh :noid
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Look in a mirror.
HiTech
Thank you for your insight and adding to this conversation.
On a different note it does seem to me that to be part of this community one does have to have a thicker skin. And I do agree I would rather be here with people who are competitive and sometimes fly off the handle then somewhere where everyone is on there best behavior.
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Krusty wrote.
Hitech wanted to code a force-based flight sim. He was told no, we'll do it this way. So sure was Hitech that he could build a better sim that he started his own company. He got it up and running and it was a worthy game to play. Folks flocked to it. It wasn't vapor ware. It wasn't freeware that never gets updated. It wasn't many things that other little upstart games tried to be. It was an actual game! Folks liked it. In fact, many folks left WB to come to AH. There are many other reasons (folks get snubbed on both sides, hold grudges, and smear the other side on their respective forums) but IMO the root was taking customers away from Wild Bill. Without AH, folks would have just moved on to something else. It just happens AH was the thing they moved on to, hence we get the evil eye.
Krusty this is not even close to the history.
1. I played Air Warrior (was a +100 hrs a month junky)
2. I started playing with flight model physics and graphic programing (HTSIM).
3. I created in Confirmed Kill at night in 94 early 95. Had 2 partners in the business Killer (John McQueen) and Gunjam (Robert Salinas)
4. We went live with Confirmed kill in May 95.
5. August 95 renamed CK to Warbirds.
6 3 years later we merged with iMagic (I.E. Wild Bill) and I lost control of WB.
7. By late 98 Bill was totally messing up the long term viability of the old company for many reasons (stock went from $14 to less then 1 cent).
8. I left and began work at home on AH.
HiTech
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Warbirds was a great sim back when it was cutting edge, but IEN completetely ****** it up in record time. We are so lucky to have AH :cheers:
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Were like eagles fans imo, loyal but one crazy,rowdy bunch.
:rock
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6 3 years later we merged with iMagic (I.E. Wild Bill) and I lost control of WB.
HiTech
My takeaway, or, "what I learned today, Mom"...
If I'm ever the founder of a small, edgy company, never partner with some guy who styles himself as "Wild Bill". It's a prescription for loss of control.
Corollary: People who call themselves by names that start with the handle "wild" have a way of getting out of hand.
Man, I'd've loved to have been a fly on the scheissehaus wall for those meetings. I still subscribe to WB and used to fly it years ago. I still haven't cancelled so I get "Wild Bill's" emails. It seems like he's looking to cultivate a bit of a Cap'n Outrageous image, like the kind of guy who gets drunk, then leads the conga line into a bathroom where he cuts loose - to everyone's horror.
No, sorry, that was Buster Poindexter - and he didn't use a bathroom.
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With the recent advent of the closing of Fighter Ace I've been trolling both the Fighter Ace and Warbirds forums.
While Skuzzy is on a major campaign to recruit Fighter Ace players, which seems to be working (while the AH FA forum has numerous posts from FA converts, the WB FA forum has one... one!), most of the comments regarding Aces High on those forums seem positive with a few exceptions.
While reading the WB forums AH seems to be largely a non-issue other than Thorism bashing HT, Skuzzy, AH and the entire AH community. I guess losing his "the 190's need to be changed" hijack in the Aircraft and Vehicle forum (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,286128.0.html) was just too much for him to take. It's funny how he didn't post a link to that thread while attempting to point out how vile our community is. It would have revealed what his real intention for AH bashing was.
To each their own.
I feel for the FA community. I've been through it with the transition from AW to AWII to AW3 and then here. Each time I lost squad mates and friends.
Frankly, while we do have our family arguments I feel like the AH community has been very accepting and welcoming of players from other flight sims. As far as community overall goes it can't be beat. When I posted recently that I'd been out of work for a year and would have to give up my subscription, players from this community came up with enough money to keep my subscrition going for the next six months. :salute What other community would do that for one of it's own?
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With the recent advent of the closing of Fighter Ace I've been trolling both the Fighter Ace and Warbirds forums.
While Skuzzy is on a major campaign to recruit Fighter Ace players, which seems to be working (while the AH FA forum has numerous posts from FA converts, the WB FA forum has one... one!), most of the comments regarding Aces High on those forums seem positive with a few exceptions.
While reading the WB forums AH seems to be largely a non-issue other than Thorism bashing HT, Skuzzy, AH and the entire AH community. I guess losing his "the 190's need to be changed" hijack in the Aircraft and Vehicle forum (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,286128.0.html) was just too much for him to take. It's funny how he didn't post a link to that thread while attempting to point out how vile our community is. It would have revealed what his real intention for AH bashing was.
To each their own.
I feel for the FA community. I've been through it with the transition from AW to AWII to AW3 and then here. Each time I lost squad mates and friends.
Frankly, while we do have our family arguments I feel like the AH community has been very accepting and welcoming of players from other flight sims. As far as community overall goes it can't be beat. When I posted recently that I'd been out of work for a year and would have to give up my subscription, players from this community came up with enough money to keep my subscrition going for the next six months. :salute What other community would do that for one of it's own?
Has Thor defecated, I mean defected? I thought he might've had some cause for being so ker-rabby.
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It seems like he's looking to cultivate a bit of a Cap'n Outrageous image, like the kind of guy who gets drunk, then leads the conga line into a bathroom where he cuts loose - to everyone's horror.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Has Thor defecated, I mean defected? I thought he might've had some cause for being so ker-rabby.
It was painfully cringe worthy watching hitech and others cut him to ribbons, and thor having no real answer. It makes sense now reading the other forum what he was up to regards his agenda.
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You laugh, Pervert, but Wild Bill's gone and got hisself hooked up in Facebook! Yeeeee-haw:
http://forum.totalsims.com/viewtopic.php?t=9189&highlight=&sid=f6f91a4934c97293defb08325d365ab7
He probably set that up right after he busted out some pipes in his rental and started a waterfall down the stairs.
Never sit with your back to the door, Bill.
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To bad we could'nt link up AH with WB and introduce to them our community specialty...The horde! :pray
We all seem to complain about that.... :furious
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To bad we could'nt link up AH with WB and introduce to them our community specialty...The horde! :pray
We all seem to complain about that.... :furious
Or make a special arena: WB versus AH. Ladies fly free.
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You laugh, Pervert, but Wild Bill's gone and got hisself hooked up in Facebook! Yeeeee-haw:
http://forum.totalsims.com/viewtopic.php?t=9189&highlight=&sid=f6f91a4934c97293defb08325d365ab7
He probably set that up right after he busted out some pipes in his rental and started a waterfall down the stairs.
Never sit with your back to the door, Bill.
Hes a bit like this then you mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKcY75LIkRw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKcY75LIkRw&feature=related)
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Krusty wrote.
Krusty this is not even close to the history.
1. I played Air Warrior (was a +100 hrs a month junky)
2. I started playing with flight model physics and graphic programing (HTSIM).
3. I created in Confirmed Kill at night in 94 early 95. Had 2 partners in the business Killer (John McQueen) and Gunjam (Robert Salinas)
4. We went live with Confirmed kill in May 95.
5. August 95 renamed CK to Warbirds.
6 3 years later we merged with iMagic (I.E. Wild Bill) and I lost control of WB.
7. By late 98 Bill was totally messing up the long term viability of the old company for many reasons (stock went from $14 to less then 1 cent).
8. I left and began work at home on AH.
HiTech
Out of curiosity where was "Target" during all of this, or did WildBill bring him onboard to mess with your code after the split? Some people still in WBs wispering in the dark corners believe the flight models in WBs 2.17 was the shiz...and some clouded memories think Target was responsible for it.
While reading the WB forums AH seems to be largely a non-issue other than Thorism bashing HT, Skuzzy, AH and the entire AH community. I guess losing his "the 190's need to be changed" hijack in the Aircraft and Vehicle forum (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,286128.0.html) was just too much for him to take. It's funny how he didn't post a link to that thread while attempting to point out how vile our community is. It would have revealed what his real intention for AH bashing was.
Baldy, I rarely if ever find a reason to disagree with you but...I know Thorsim, and his long running dispute has been with HiTech and the standards used to program the flight models in WBs and here...and whether you see it or not, HiTech can be as abrasive as BiPolar on a good day (can't say I blame him with some of the b.s. I've seen on these boards)...
His problems with the AH community comes from the ankle humpers around here that think just because they have been fondling their joysticks for 10 years it makes them WWII era aeronautical engineering experts with PhD's in history...there are very few that actually have the knowledge, and even fewer have any real life military aircraft flight experience...it's just too bad the chest thumping big brass cyberballs attitudes of the loudmouths here rub off on them and the wealth of useable information gets sidelined in favor of dipstick remarks from people who know less than the ones asking the questions. Speaking of which, there is one person who trolls the forums here that was not only a German jet fighter pilot but also a close personal friend of Eric Hartmann sometime around the Korean war period...and I have seen him treated with as little respect as Thor...that speaks volumes about this community.
Thanks to HiTech's efforts, at one time Warbirds set the standard for online MMO flight sims...and Thor was/is a big fan of the game...some of his questioning comes from the fact that a once great game has evolved into a craptastic pile of outdated garbage because the flight models have been messed up since v2.17. The only reason he is in AH now is because myself and a couple of other squad members got ourselves banned from WBs after pointing out the major suckage of the game in the total sims forums...and I refuse to pay $29 a month for graphics that look like Combat Flight Simulator 2.
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Or make a special arena: WB versus AH. Ladies fly free.
LOL...I've heard that actually already happened...WBs vs AH toonpeelots in an AH arena...word is the AH sticks got pwnd. I have no idea if that is fact or not.
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LOL...I've heard that actually already happened...WBs vs AH toonpeelots in an AH arena...word is the AH sticks got pwnd. I have no idea if that is fact or not.
If you are referring to the WB vs. AH duel held a few years ago, it was the WB ladies that got their tulips handed back to them.
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If you are referring to the WB vs. AH duel held a few years ago, it was the WB ladies that got their tulips handed back to them.
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Really, Ack-Ack..? Because I seem to recall one '38 pilot wearing jam-jams with a cartoon character on 'em by the name o' deppity dawg.
Seriously, does somebody actually have some data on this? I'd say it's high time we matched up agin' Wild Bill and his circus klowns once't' agin.
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In the AH vs WB duel, the Aces High pilots won. It was a well fought match, on both sides, and both sides represented themselves very well.
BaldEagle, I would like to clear up something you said. I am not soliciting any players from Fighter Ace. I am merely answering questions about Aces High. I let the product and service speak for itself.
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In the AH vs WB duel, the Aces High pilots won. It was a well fought match, on both sides, and both sides represented themselves very well.
BaldEagle, I would like to clear up something you said. I am not soliticiting any players from Fighter Ace. I am merely answering questions about Aces High. I let the product and service speak for itself.
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ith the AH community comes from the ankle humpers around here that think just because they have been fondling their joysticks for 10 years it makes them WWII era aeronautical engineering experts with PhD's in history...
BS his problem was he couldn't post any data or links to data when asked. Pilot xx said ac y did this is not data. He couldn't let that go. So :neener:.
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BS his problem was he couldn't post any data or links to data when asked. Pilot xx said ac y did this is not data. He couldn't let that go. So :neener:.
When asked for proof of his claims he gave us secondhand anecdotal opinions.
Thorsim: "AcesHigh's flight model is wrong"
US: "Why?"
Thorsim: "I read some book by some guy who said something that I have misinterpreted as meaning that AcesHigh's FM is wrong"
US: "Here is the math and physics and tons of proof from respected sources that the FM is pretty durn close"
Thorsim: " Those facts have to be wrong because I saw this youtube video where this one guy said that...."
(and so forth for 20 pages)
He seems to have been replaced with Gaston.
(if you keep up w/ these types of things)
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Really, Ack-Ack..? Because I seem to recall one '38 pilot wearing jam-jams with a cartoon character on 'em by the name o' deppity dawg.
It's not jam-jams, it's the S.A.P.P regulation flight suit all S.A.P.P members wear. Except Mensa, she wears Wonder Woman jam-jams...err flight suit.
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His problems with the AH community comes from the ankle humpers around here that think just because they have been fondling their joysticks for 10 years it makes them WWII era aeronautical engineering experts with PhD's in history...there are very few that actually have the knowledge, and even fewer have any real life military aircraft flight experience...it's just too bad the chest thumping big brass cyberballs attitudes of the loudmouths here rub off on them and the wealth of useable information gets sidelined in favor of dipstick remarks from people who know less than the ones asking the questions.
Actually there are several current and former military aircraft pilots in this community and several others with very strong aeronautical knowledge not to mention all the players with private aircraft licenses. I'm not saying that the occasional dipstick, myself included, doesn't occasionally pipe in but it's a public BBs and they have the right within the limits that are posted.
Speaking of which, there is one person who trolls the forums here that was not only a German jet fighter pilot but also a close personal friend of Eric Hartmann sometime around the Korean war period...and I have seen him treated with as little respect as Thor...that speaks volumes about this community.
I don't know who you're talking about and won't venture a guess but I don't think it matters who you are or who you know. You get treated the way you treat others or by the way you act.
After over 20 years in the music business I met a lot of famous personalities. Some were down to earth, some were party animals and some were absolute and total jerks. Just because you are or were someone doesn't make you a good person.
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After over 20 years in the music business ................
[/quote] Ted Nugent!!!!!! :x :banana: :lol
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Lute you and Bronk are so far off it's pathetic...someone else posted data and he said the data seemed faulty when compared to the very easily found data from other countries...I didn't see Lute, BaldEagl, Bronk and a couple of others post any evidence to contradict his opinions...even ignored what Krusty was saying in spite of the fact that he started out agreeing with Thor...
So give it a break, unless you guys have suddenly become experts and have the evidence to back it up.
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See Rule #6
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Lute you and Bronk are so far off it's pathetic...someone else posted data and he said the data seemed faulty when compared to the very easily found data from other countries...I didn't see Lute, BaldEagl, Bronk and a couple of others post any evidence to contradict his opinions...even ignored what Krusty was saying in spite of the fact that he started out agreeing with Thor...
So give it a break, unless you guys have suddenly become experts and have the evidence to back it up.
The BURDEN OF PROOF was on Thorsim. If Dale's "Flight Model" is incorrect, it is NOT up to Dale to "figure out what the hell is wrong". It is Thor's job to "point out where and how". But Thorsim never did/could.
Thorsim has only his lack of facts to blame Gyrene.
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The BURDEN OF PROOF was on Thorsim. If Dale's "Flight Model" is incorrect, it is NOT up to Dale to "figure out what the hell is wrong". It is Thor's job to "point out where and how". But Thorsim never did/could.
Thorsim has only his lack of facts to blame Gyrene.
I agree, but on the same token the luftwhiner slams don't belong in discussions, especially when posted by people with less knowledge or evidence than Thor. I disagree with him a lot...but I also take the time to justify my reactions and if possible back them up with evidence.
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I've posted on here before about the P51D FM and HiTech himself replied that it was correct. He has flown one, so I reckon he'd know.
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Corollary: People who call themselves by names that start with the handle "wild" have a way of getting out of hand.
:rofl
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Lute you and Bronk are so far off it's pathetic...someone else posted data and he said the data seemed faulty when compared to the very easily found data from other countries...I didn't see Lute, BaldEagl, Bronk and a couple of others post any evidence to contradict his opinions...even ignored what Krusty was saying in spite of the fact that he started out agreeing with Thor...
So give it a break, unless you guys have suddenly become experts and have the evidence to back it up.
Baumer posted data and HT stated he's look into it. Yet youknowho still couldn't come up with anything. I wont contradict an opinion because it's just that... an opinion.
I commend sticking up for a friend but cmon. :rolleyes:
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This is Hitechs first response to Thorsim.
Thorsim: Welcome to our board.
It appears to me from your post you are doing two classic mistakes when looking into modeling.
1. It appears to me you are showing a bias in wishing the planes you like to be better then they are.
2. You are looking for data to support you position rather than looking for data to find out what your position should be.
HiTech
Hitech nailed it. Thorsim never learned one thing on this board. Hitech showed incredible patience explaining and refuting everything Thorsim posted. Thorsim pays him back by slamming him on the WB BB. Kilo wants to know why the drama queen doesn't love us and Hitech tells him to look in the mirror. Kilo doesn't get it and gets all drama queen on Hitech.
Hitech rocks. :rock
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This is Hitechs first response to Thorsim.
Thorsim: Welcome to our board.
It appears to me from your post you are doing two classic mistakes when looking into modeling.
1. It appears to me you are showing a bias in wishing the planes you like to be better then they are.
2. You are looking for data to support you position rather than looking for data to find out what your position should be.
HiTech
Hitech nailed it. Thorsim never learned one thing on this board. Hitech showed incredible patience explaining and refuting everything Thorsim posted. Thorsim pays him back by slamming him on the WB BB. Kilo wants to know why the drama queen doesn't love us and Hitech tells him to look in the mirror. Kilo doesn't get it and gets all drama queen on Hitech.
Hitech rocks. :rock
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Baumer posted data and HT stated he's look into it. Yet youknowho still couldn't come up with anything. I wont contradict an opinion because it's just that... an opinion.
I commend sticking up for a friend but cmon. :rolleyes:
That was Baumer...Saurdaukar and many others did too...now go and read the posts by Lute, BaldEagl and yourself...I don't see anything that contributes to that thread by either of you guys.
This is Hitechs first response to Thorsim.
Thorsim: Welcome to our board.
It appears to me from your post you are doing two classic mistakes when looking into modeling.
1. It appears to me you are showing a bias in wishing the planes you like to be better then they are.
2. You are looking for data to support you position rather than looking for data to find out what your position should be.
HiTech
Hitech nailed it. Thorsim never learned one thing on this board. Hitech showed incredible patience explaining and refuting everything Thorsim posted. Thorsim pays him back by slamming him on the WB BB. Kilo wants to know why the drama queen doesn't love us and Hitech tells him to look in the mirror. Kilo doesn't get it and gets all drama queen on Hitech.
Hitech rocks. :rock
News flash FLS...in case you have been missing the posts...Thor isn't the only one who does exactly that or has done it on these boards.
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That was Baumer...Saurdaukar and many others did too...now go and read the posts by Lute, BaldEagl and yourself...I don't see anything that contributes to that thread by either of you guys.
And so that justifies his crusade against HT, Skuzzy, AH and this entire community on the WB BBs?
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Lute you and Bronk are so far off it's pathetic...someone else posted data and he said the data seemed faulty when compared to the very easily found data from other countries...
Data that Thorsim repeatedly did not produce and when pressed, his 'data' was nothing more than pilot stories or what he saw on Wings of the Luftwaffe and some other show on the History Channel.
Another classic example of 'thorism' was the thread on flaps when he argued the flaps on the P-38 was not modeled correctly, especially the dive flaps. In that thread, it became clear his misunderstanding of the dive flaps was a result of him not knowing how the dive flaps worked and continued to argue they worked as 'dive brakes' slowing the P-38 enough to be able to pull out of a high speed dive.
While I didn't agree that he should have gotten a PNG (even a temporary one), he did bring it upon himself.
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Gyrene is starting to sound like he's on Wild Bill's payroll. :neener:
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And so that justifies his crusade against HT, Skuzzy, AH and this entire community on the WB BBs?
Never said that. But looking just at that one thread, there are several responses posted that if had Thor written those words...they would be "see rule #"...yet there they sit even now.
Data that Thorsim repeatedly did not produce and when pressed, his 'data' was nothing more than pilot stories or what he saw on Wings of the Luftwaffe and some other show on the History Channel.
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Ok unfortunately he does use some references that aren't acceptable for obvious reasons...and sometimes he mistakenly considers test data as irrefutable proof. I've seen a good number of posts by other people who have done the same thing...including using "pilot testimony" that was for some reason not slammed as irrelevant.
Gyrene is starting to sound like he's on Wild Bill's payroll. :neener:
:O LOL...yeah even after I posted how bad his terrains and flight models sucked and got banned...he's paying me under the table. :rofl
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seeing thors posts on the WBs forums makes me chuckle, almost want to flame him every chance I get but who knows.
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News flash FLS...in case you have been missing the posts...Thor isn't the only one who does exactly that or has done it on these boards.
That's certainly a dramatic irrelevant datum. But it's nice of you to post that you agree with me.
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That was Baumer...Saurdaukar and many others did too...now go and read the posts by Lute, BaldEagl and yourself...I don't see anything that contributes to that thread by either of you guys.
Unlike Thorsim I know and understand my limitations and knowledge.
I CAN grasp most of the concepts involved in those threads though and I was (usually) able to follow the conversation.
I never claimed to be have more than the most tenuous grasp on the math and physics involved in those threads and I knew I had very little I could add that wasn't already explained much, MUCH better than I could ever hope to by people that are much, MUCH more knowledgeable.
What always killed me about Thorsim is he was asking for "expert sources" to people that, in most circles, ARE considered experts.
Heck, the people that were debating him have a much more impressive background/resume in the subject matter than anybody he used as a "source".
(imho)
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That's certainly a dramatic irrelevant datum. But it's nice of you to post that you agree with me.
You're right it's probably irrelevant and I can't disagree with the point you made.
Thing is Thor may not be able to prove his observations about the FMs, but unfortunately you all have clearly proven his point about the AH community/boards...which considering how frequently it is illustrated here is highly amusing.
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you all have clearly proven his point about the AH community/boards...which considering how frequently it is illustrated here is highly amusing.
Yes we bash luftwhiner/amifanbios/spitdweebs ..ect...ect.. ect equaly when they do as thor does.
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If something isn't getting bashed, there is something wrong with the world.
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Are we still talking about the original question? :headscratch:
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Are we still talking about the original question? :headscratch:
not at all.
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Okay, cool..... I shall not add to that then......... Where were we? :devil
not at all.
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Gyrene is starting to sound like he's on Wild Bill's payroll. :neener:
What an asinine statement...but from the mouths of the uninformed has come drivel throughout the ages!!
FYI Gyrene, as several others of the squadron, has been banned - PNG - from WB's for questioning FM's that were patentedly incorrect. A carrier based fighter that was modelled so it could not take off from the cv was "corrected" by making it substantially lighter so it could. It also then proceeded to perform all it's inflight evolutions at that decreased weight which gave it totally unhistorical capabilities. This was pointed out repeatedly but fell on deaf ears at WB's until the uproar got him and several others "booted" from the game - permanently.
Oh ya - soon after that WB removed that FM from play and admitted it's mistake.
Through out history it has been a fact that frequently the "accepted" position of the main stream community has been proven wrong by a single individual who has had the courage, against all assults upon his character, to say : "You're wrong....but I can't prove it....yet!"
In the future it might be worth a pause before stuffing your foot in your mouth - hehehe - I know from experience.
....cheers eh!! :D
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You're right it's probably irrelevant and I can't disagree with the point you made.
Thing is Thor may not be able to prove his observations about the FMs, but unfortunately you all have clearly proven his point about the AH community/boards...which considering how frequently it is illustrated here is highly amusing.
You're looking at the posts which support your position instead of looking at the posts to see what your position should be.
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Cut me teeth on Warbirds, and I really enjoy'd the offline mode emensly...
It's not a bad sim, I just dont like the way they do buisness.
Flight in Aces seems a little better, but I do miss them skip bombs.....
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Thing is Thor may not be able to prove his observations about the FMs, but unfortunately you all have clearly proven his point about the AH community/boards...which considering how frequently it is illustrated here is highly amusing.
Like a red headed step-child, Luftwhiners are born to be bashed :devil
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Gentlemen, it is in bad taste to speak of someone when they can not defend themselves.
HiTech
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Krusty this is not even close to the history.
The only real point about history I made was that you wanted to code a flight sim based on forces rather than tables or whatever WB has. I'm pretty sure I've read that you or somebody else on the staff mentioned you wanted to do this and had no creative control over it.
As for the rest, I haven't caught up with the extra 3 pages of the thread, will keep reading :lol
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What an asinine statement...but from the mouths of the uninformed has come drivel throughout the ages!!
It was a joke. Lighten up Sally, or maybe I'll come check out yer mouth hmmmmmmm.
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Oh right....... This is where we were.
Listen to Dale, he knows something!
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This is Hitechs first response to Thorsim.
Thorsim: Welcome to our board.
It appears to me from your post you are doing two classic mistakes when looking into modeling.
1. It appears to me you are showing a bias in wishing the planes you like to be better then they are.
2. You are looking for data to support you position rather than looking for data to find out what your position should be.
HiTech
Hitech nailed it. Thorsim never learned one thing on this board. Hitech showed incredible patience explaining and refuting everything Thorsim posted. Thorsim pays him back by slamming him on the WB BB. Kilo wants to know why the drama queen doesn't love us and Hitech tells him to look in the mirror. Kilo doesn't get it and gets all drama queen on Hitech.
Hitech rocks. :rock
When was I "all drama queen".
I think hitech was off base with his comment but that is his opinion.
And thorism is not the only one to voice a distaste with the ah community. Having flown with thorsim I can tell you he is a great guy.
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Gentlemen, it is in bad taste to speak of someone when they can not defend themselves.
HiTech
Words of truth. This bashing of thorsim when he is not here to defend himself is part of why our community can be called total jerks. Also, talking about people behind their backs is very similar to the drama of high school.
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HiTech created both sims.
This one is better.
WarBirds started dying the moment HiTech left to make AcesHigh.
nuff said IMHO. :salute
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I managed not to get banned from the forums during nine years of hammering about the Mosquito model, gradually seeing things changed. I proved that is was consuming fuel twice as fast as it should have been and it was fixed in the next version.
How do you think I managed to complain to HTC about the Mossie for that long and not be banned? It sure isn't because they don't tolerate critical discussion. It is because I recognized what is and is not data and when my position, even if I thought I was correct, was not strong enough to act on. Above all, I remained civil and never took it personally. Do that, and no matter the aircraft you won't get banned.
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:O LOL...yeah even after I posted how bad his terrains and flight models sucked and got banned...he's paying me under the table. :rofl
Your misdirection ruse might fool some of these simple folk but, to me, this is just further evidence of how truly diabolical you are, Wild "Gyrene" Bill.
There, I've outed him.
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I haven't been banned this year........ yet! :aok
I managed not to get banned from the forums during nine years of......................
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When was I "all drama queen".
I think hitech was off base with his comment but that is his opinion.
And thorism is not the only one to voice a distaste with the ah community. Having flown with thorsim I can tell you he is a great guy.
"Thank you for your insight and adding to this conversation." This was sarcasm used for dramatic effect, hence "drama queen". Granted it wasn't in the same league as the other person I referred to. Since you think Hitech was off base I won't ask you to consider why he thought it was appropriate.
Personally I don't understand why we should care what somebody somewhere else says about us. Since you read the posts at the WB BB it should have been plain to you that it had nothing to do with their community vs our community. It was a few people preaching to the choir while ignoring the occasional voice of reason. The idea that the community is somehow responsible for a minority of the people posting is ludicrous. That's why my initial posts on this thread weren't serious. The whole thing was so silly. When I thought gyrene was off base I posted to set him straight but it turns out he agrees with me. :D Nobody likes to see their friends get bashed even when they deserve it so I understand gyrene's position. He's just a little hotheaded. After all most people can be critical without getting banned. :devil
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"Thank you for your insight and adding to this conversation." This was sarcasm used for dramatic effect, hence "drama queen". Granted it wasn't in the same league as the other person I referred to. Since you think Hitech was off base I won't ask you to consider why he thought it was appropriate.
Personally I don't understand why we should care what somebody somewhere else says about us. Since you read the posts at the WB BB it should have been plain to you that it had nothing to do with their community vs our community. It was a few people preaching to the choir while ignoring the occasional voice of reason. The idea that the community is somehow responsible for a minority of the people posting is ludicrous. That's why my initial posts on this thread weren't serious. The whole thing was so silly. When I thought gyrene was off base I posted to set him straight but it turns out he agrees with me. :D Nobody likes to see their friends get bashed even when they deserve it so I understand gyrene's position. He's just a little hotheaded. After all most people can be critical without getting banned. :devil
Don't get questioning why somebody or people think something and caring mixed. I do not care what they think I just wanted to know why and a discussion about it. Hitech commented something about me so I commented back. I really thanked him for his insight and moved on.
Maybe you took it the wrong way. Critically discussing something is never bad.
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I use a Mac....and play AH.
i would love to use my mac for the game, what OS do you use?
froger
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Don't get questioning why somebody or people think something and caring mixed. I do not care what they think I just wanted to know why and a discussion about it. Hitech commented something about me so I commented back. I really thanked him for his insight and moved on.
Maybe you took it the wrong way. Critically discussing something is never bad.
I'm sorry if we had a misunderstanding. Since you believe I was off base I'll assume you're thankful for my insight and contribution and say you're welcome. :cheers:
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i would love to use my mac for the game, what OS do you use?
froger
If you run Bootcamp on your Mac, you can run AH in bootcamp (essentially Windows)
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i would love to use my mac for the game, what OS do you use?
froger
I use OS X... I can get you a specific version when I get home.
My mini runs AH on a Windows XP SP2 - FLAWLESSLY. The frame rate is apulse-like 75 consistently. I've been named "squadron lookout" as well since I typically spot cons well before any of my squaddies. They keep asking me what my graphics card is. I'm not sure if it's that or the Samsung monitor I'm using but, either way, I think it hard to go wrong Maccing it. My former AH machine has been handed over to the wife.
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If any new or non player is reading this thread, this is the Aces High community when it really counts:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,288401.0.html
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