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Title: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
My my my but the whining is INTENSE these days.  :lol

"He's so needing of attention!  I have to squelch him as he is always spouting off on 200 !"

From the High Master of Mindless ch200 Whine Posts.  :lol  You squelch me because a.) I post responses to your usual mindless prattle, b.) I poke holes in your poor logic, and c.) my responses disrupt the flow of your endless whining and chest beating.

"He's just an e-fighter.  He always... always comes into the merge with more energy...without it he's nothing.  That's why he beat me and <fill-in-the bank> during our duels!  Oh....and the engine off stuff is stupid (even if it does work)."

So I guess we now need to change the rules for 1v1 duels to ensure that everyone merges at the same speed?  Maybe you should have been WEPing all the way to the merge?   I don't know how to respond to this or help you.  :headscratch:

"My controls locked up! I had already knocked pieces off of your plane.  YOU WERE NEVER BEHIND ME WHEN I AUGERED!!!"

Actually, I was above you at the time.  You were in the process of overshooting when you augered.  Look at the film, O' dogfighting goddess!  And for the record....I was the 110 surrounded in a "Sea of Red" at the time, not you.  Might want to clarify that for your bud.  That's why your squadie killed me right after you made a large, Spit shaped hole in the ground!  Some things never change, eh?  i.e. You are always the bait.  :aok

 :banana: :banana: :banana:

Hopefully I will be able to respond back here in a few weeks!  If not....ah well. C'est la vie!!

 :rofl :salute
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on September 30, 2014, 11:02:13 AM
You should've been online that day Sawzaw was getting his  :ahand to him in his own plane while I was USING the engine cutting  :lol
Then he called me a noob after I reversed him AFTER cutting my engine and shortly after that shooting him down.
Engine cutting is gamey but this is a game, isn't it?

You would think someone that flies the K4 as much as he does would have some type of accuracy.
If Anarchy couldn't aim the 30mm I wouldn't be his friend, I wouldn't even claim him as a K4 pilot.

I am done doing the engine thing though  :lol
Tired of being called SkyyrJr on squad chat lol

Ratio
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 11:12:01 AM
 :lol  I thought you were DrBoneJr?   ;)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on September 30, 2014, 11:17:57 AM
You should've been online that day Sawzaw was getting his  :ahand to him in his own plane while I was USING the engine cutting  :lol
Then he called me a noob after I reversed him AFTER cutting my engine and shortly after that shooting him down.
Engine cutting is gamey but this is a game, isn't it?

You would think someone that flies the K4 as much as he does would have some type of accuracy.
If Anarchy couldn't aim the 30mm I wouldn't be his friend, I wouldn't even claim him as a K4 pilot.

I am done doing the engine thing though  :lol
Tired of being called SkyyrJr on squad chat lol

Ratio


SkyyrJr :rofl

Ratio is awesome. :)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: puller on September 30, 2014, 11:25:39 AM
You " -The Damned- " guys need to quit pulling my squaddies INto your purse fights with the enemy (everyone that's not us) I almost feel left out  :devil  /sarc off

I love watching this though...the dogfighter in me wishes I could play more...but alas...FSO and a hour or two on the weekends is all I have time for...hurts my soul....

See y'all " -The Damned- " guys frame 1  :salute ...also I was never let on to why the ( - ) I'm feeling left out again... :bolt:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
You " -The Damned- " guys need to quit pulling my squaddies INto your purse fights with the enemy (everyone that's not us) I almost feel left out  :devil  /sarc off

We figured it was too INtense for you, old chap.  :lol ;)

Looking forward to it...  Always a blast to fight and (usually) die with the Anti-Horde.  :aok

 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on September 30, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
The struggle is real for Fulcrum.   :rofl
 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
The struggle is real for Fulcrum.   :rofl
 

 Yep!  :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 30, 2014, 12:21:11 PM
I sure enjoyed your whines the other night Fulcrum, made me smile afterwards.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 12:26:43 PM
I sure enjoyed your whines the other night Fulcrum, made me smile afterwards.

ack-ack

Good! And techically yes, it was a whine.  But it was also a vulch.    ;)   :salute
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on September 30, 2014, 12:45:33 PM
Good! And techically yes, it was a whine.  But it was also a vulch.    ;)   :salute

He was just eliminating you as pragmatically as possible.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Canspec on September 30, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
You should've been online that day Sawzaw was getting his  :ahand to him in his own plane while I was USING the engine cutting  :lol
Then he called me a noob after I reversed him AFTER cutting my engine and shortly after that shooting him down.
Engine cutting is gamey but this is a game, isn't it?

You would think someone that flies the K4 as much as he does would have some type of accuracy.
If Anarchy couldn't aim the 30mm I wouldn't be his friend, I wouldn't even claim him as a K4 pilot.

I am done doing the engine thing though  :lol
Tired of being called SkyyrJr on squad chat lol

Ratio


For someone in the Naval Academy you sure have alot of time to spend in here.....get back to your studies and duties..... :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: waystin2 on September 30, 2014, 01:22:24 PM
This is a waste of thread space. :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on September 30, 2014, 01:23:06 PM
My my my but the whining is INTENSE these days.  :lol

"He's so needing of attention!  I have to squelch him as he is always spouting off on 200 !"

From the High Master of Mindless ch200 Whine Posts.  :lol  You squelch me because a.) I post responses to your usual mindless prattle, b.) I poke holes in your poor logic, and c.) my responses disrupt the flow of your endless whining and chest beating.

No, he just can't stand your endless dribble..  :uhoh

And I guess the rest is about me so...
I never said that I was in a sea of red, I said no, just by a vbase.  Yes, my controls went out, not an excuse, I never, ever, claimed to be good at this game,  but it
happens all the time to me right now and it is what happened.  
I did not save the film no, I didn't think that it was worth saving.  I didn't know you were going to lose it after getting a proxie on me or I would have...lol  
I'm sure you have it for sale on DVD and blueray for anyone that would like a copy though...  :D  

Bait huh?  I thought your pet name for me was mascot?  Or was it dumbarse or moron?  Just too many to remember...  :headscratch:

Get a grip Fully, it's a game.  
I am glad that you took this up here though, the pm thing was getting really old...  :aok

The struggle is real for Fulcrum.   :rofl
 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 01:47:52 PM
He was just eliminating you as pragmatically as possible.

Indeed he did!  :aok

No, he just can't stand your endless dribble..  :uhoh

:lol Reciprocated!

And I guess the rest is about me so...
I never said that I was in a sea of red, I said no, just by a vbase.  Yes, my controls went out, not an excuse, I never, ever, claimed to be good at this game,  but it happens all the time to me right now and it is what happened. 
I did not save the film no, I didn't think that it was worth saving.  I didn't know you were going to lose it after getting a proxie on me or I would have...lol 
I'm sure you have it for sale on DVD and blueray for anyone that would like a copy though...  :D 

 :rofl  I didn't lose it, Peppy.  I laughed quite loud tho'.  It was very funny.  And no, I won't put it on DVD and try to sell it....we'd lose money on that one. 


It is indeed a game....but it's not me that has the problem figuring that out.   :rofl

This is a waste of thread space. :aok

No sir.  It's a...

(http://guycodeblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/old-people-fighting71.gif)

(http://guycodeblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/old-people-fighting.gif)

 :D
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Doc72 on September 30, 2014, 02:08:24 PM
Wow....I'm with you on this one Waystin!! This more of a :banana: :banana: :banana: "look at me, look at me" thread.

Don't get sucked into it Pepps. I think you're a good person and stick for being a cracked egg.  :aok  :D  :neener:


 :rock  :cheers:

 :salute Pepps!!

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 30, 2014, 02:19:41 PM
Good! And techically yes, it was a whine.  But it was also a vulch.    ;)   :salute

It wasn't a vulch, nor a "pick" like you first claimed.  You were not attempting to land or take off, just flying around the outer edge of your base using the field ack as cover while defending your base.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 02:28:20 PM
It wasn't a vulch, nor a "pick" like you first claimed.  You were not attempting to land or take off, just flying around the outer edge of your base using the field ack as cover while defending your base.

ack-ack

My use of the term "pick" was by mistake.  Actually, I was trying to slow down to land or (more likely) ditch.  I was indeed using the field ack to cover me during this time.  Given the large number of red guys over the field I figured my chances of success were very low.  *shrug* It happens.... 

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on September 30, 2014, 02:31:25 PM
You can tell Fulcrum is upset when he shortens the name of the person he's fussing at to something ending in Y.   :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 02:42:22 PM
This more of a :banana: :banana: :banana: "look at me, look at me" thread.

No sir.  It's a public response as private ones are frowned upon.  No worries!  

Don't get sucked into it Pepps. I think you're a good person and stick for being a cracked egg.  :aok  :D  :neener:

I've never claimed otherwise for either, nor will I do so.

You can tell Fulcrum is upset when he shortens the name of the person he's fussing at to something ending in Y.   :rofl

 :lol I'm not upset when I do so.   I just figure that is more polite than calling someone I disagree with a "tard".

BTW - Your name doesn't sound right with a "Y" at the end.   :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on September 30, 2014, 03:22:42 PM
Wow....I'm with you on this one Waystin!! This more of a :banana: :banana: :banana: "look at me, look at me" thread.

Don't get sucked into it Pepps. I think you're a good person and stick for being a cracked egg.  :aok  :D  :neener:


 :rock  :cheers:

 :salute Pepps!!



lol Doc...not getting sucked into it.  :aok
 :salute

No sir.  It's a public response as private ones are frowned upon.  No worries!  

 :lol I'm not upset when I do so.   I just figure that is more polite than calling someone I disagree with a "tard".

Yes, you got it!  Pm's to me from YOU are frowned upon.. :aok
And you prefer "dumbarse" or "moron" to tard.   :headscratch:

 :salute  and Cya
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RotBaron on September 30, 2014, 05:04:23 PM
Turning your engine off in mid flight ought to have similar characteristics in AH as it would to RL.

If you need a gamey maneuver to win, I guess you indeed need it.

Sporting nope  :bolt:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 30, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
Turning your engine off in mid flight ought to have similar characteristics in AH as it would to RL.



The funny thing is, despite what some players think recently, it doesn't work in AH like they think it does.  It's like the old AH urban myth that trimming full up elevator will make you turn tighter.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RELIC on September 30, 2014, 05:59:13 PM
The funny thing is, despite what some players think recently, it doesn't work in AH like they think it does.  It's like the old AH urban myth that trimming full up elevator will make you turn tighter.

ack-ack


Shhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: muzik on September 30, 2014, 06:12:06 PM
Turning off engine in AH doesnt win fights, doesnt even provide the advantage that the goofs who do it think it does.

Otherwise, lame OP.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on September 30, 2014, 06:14:13 PM
(http://www.tensionnot.com/pictures/images/Car/Free-Candy-Van.jpg)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on September 30, 2014, 06:47:35 PM
lol turn your engine off while in combat  :rofl :rofl    and yes this is most definitely a look at me thread
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 07:17:56 PM
And you prefer "dumbarse" or "moron" to tard.   :headscratch:


:lol I try, most of the time, to keep it relatively civil.....but similar to you never claiming to be a good pilot.... I've never claimed to be a saint.

:angel:

(http://www.tensionnot.com/pictures/images/Car/Free-Candy-Van.jpg)

Speaking of people who PMs and shade.  :lol 

Come on Slash(y), you need to come up with a new approach.  Even I don't find that insulting anymore.

 
The funny thing is, despite what some players think recently, it doesn't work in AH like they think it does.  It's like the old AH urban myth that trimming full up elevator will make you turn tighter.

And yet, it does work.  Or rather, it does for some who employ it.

and yes this is most definitely a look at me thread

And who are you again?  :lol

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on September 30, 2014, 07:41:54 PM
Who am I ?  just a player who plays a game with my squadmates we have a great time flying , I fly with respect towards others looking for that good one versus one fight, I keep quiet on 200 like I said I play this game respectfully always have since 2003 ....

you just seem like the typical attention-seeking troll who can't stay in the squad, who gets kicked out of squads blah blah blah ad nauseum  but hey you can keep swimming in your awesome sauce   :aok  honestly I don't even know why I even responded to a troll like you I surely won't be wasting anymore time with that.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 30, 2014, 07:48:31 PM
And yet, it does work.  Or rather, it does for some who employ it.

Chopping throttle and using some slip will be just as effective in shedding E to force the over shoot, more effective than shutting down the engine and then turning it back on.  It is also a desperation move.

When AH first came out and until it was fixed (around 2001 or so) it was used a lot because there was no penalty to doing it but that was ceased to be when the engine start up was changed to stop such gamey tactics.  Like I said, it's just another myth that only really works in the eye of the beholder.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Nathan60 on September 30, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
(http://www.tensionnot.com/pictures/images/Car/Free-Candy-Van.jpg)
That is an old photo that van has been updated (http://data1.whicdn.com/images/119540455/thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Nathan60 on September 30, 2014, 08:23:31 PM
Who am I ?  just a player who plays a game with my squadmates we have a great time flying , I fly with respect towards others looking for that good one versus one fight, I keep quiet on 200 like I said I play this game respectfully always have since 2003 ....

you just seem like the typical attention-seeking troll who can't stay in the squad, who gets kicked out of squads blah blah blah ad nauseum  but hey you can keep swimming in your awesome sauce   :aok  honestly I don't even know why I even responded to a troll like you I surely won't be wasting anymore time with that.
You know you would think he would be head muppet by now, instead he got booted. I just can't wrap my head around it.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on September 30, 2014, 09:11:10 PM

:lol I try, most of the time, to keep it relatively civil.....but similar to you never claiming to be a good pilot.... I've never claimed to be a saint.

:angel:

Speaking of people who PMs and shade.  :lol 

Come on Slash(y), you need to come up with a new approach.  Even I don't find that insulting anymore.

 
And yet, it does work.  Or rather, it does for some who employ it.

And who are you again?  :lol


Please provide proof of all my PMs I've never sent you. Go ahead and expose my shades while you're  at it.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on September 30, 2014, 10:30:44 PM
So I guess we now need to change the rules for 1v1 duels to ensure that everyone merges at the same speed?  Maybe you should have been WEPing all the way to the merge?   I don't know how to respond to this or help you.  
If you watch some films and look at graphs, you can tell WEP isn't  the reason some people  have more speed into a merge. For example the difference  between  normal power and wep in a KI43 is 10 mph. When the difference  is 40mph...something  else is a work.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on September 30, 2014, 10:59:21 PM
If you watch some films and look at graphs, you can tell WEP isn't  the reason some people  have more speed into a merge. For example the difference  between  normal er and wep in a KI43 is 10 mph. When the difference  is 40mph...something  else is a work.
?

Exactly.  The person who made the statement did so in such a way as to imply that 'other factors' were in play.  One could reason that these factors could be the result of better flying skill, etc......but other, less flattering conclusions can be made as well.

honestly I don't even know why I even responded to a troll like you I surely won't be wasting anymore time with that.

Good for you sir.  Nor should you!   :aok







Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on September 30, 2014, 11:28:51 PM
?

Exactly.  The person who made the statement did so in such a way as to imply that 'other factors' were in play.  One could reason that these factors could be the result of better flying skill, etc......but other, less flattering conclusions can be made as well.


Wait, what?  You mean being a better cartoon pilot will net you 40mph faster on a deck merge?

Someone is getting kicked from the muppets as soon as i figure who didn't tell me about this..
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on September 30, 2014, 11:43:38 PM
Wait, what?  You mean being a better cartoon pilot will net you 40mph faster on a deck merge?

Someone is getting kicked from the muppets as soon as i figure who didn't tell me about this..
Yea I don't see where he got that from my post...

In a fight where you can dive in at icon range(5k merge) a knowledge of a plane and general ACM can give you an upper hand at the merge E wise. But some planes you don't want to go too fast or else you lose too much manuever room. I try to not merge faster then 380 mph because the Difference  in altitude  I can gain going faster doesn't get me the same advantages I will get working angles at 380.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on September 30, 2014, 11:55:38 PM
The funny thing is, despite what some players think recently, it doesn't work in AH like they think it does.  It's like the old AH urban myth that trimming full up elevator will make you turn tighter.

ack-ack
Maybe Skyyr can give a tip or two about how this helps his merge? :noid :noid ;)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 01, 2014, 12:00:17 AM
I'm just awaiting the explanation on cartoon plane skills and NOT "less flattering conclusions" net 40mph faster on a deck merge.. lmao
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 01, 2014, 12:01:31 AM
I'm just awaiting the explanation on cartoon plane skills and NOT "less flattering conclusions" net 40mph faster on a deck merge.. lmao
possibly full WEP to merge?  :confused:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 01, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
possibly full WEP to merge?  :confused:

ki43's wep is only 1 additional 3 legged not very interested lethargic hamster.. ;p
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 01, 2014, 12:07:37 AM
ki43's wep is only 1 additional 3 legged not very interested lethargic hamster.. ;p
:) intersting, very interesting you say....


little google searching and i figured out about other "skyyr's" and their ability to change things... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: FLS on October 01, 2014, 12:13:08 AM
It's like the old AH urban myth that trimming full up elevator will make you turn tighter.

ack-ack

From what I've read in old posts this actually worked in an early version of Aces High.
Now the only advantage to trimming up is keeping a scaled stick closer to center for finer input.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 01, 2014, 12:17:27 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,366227.0.html

The KI43 example can be found here....notice the speed in the first fight. Now by the wiki the difference if at max speed should only be 10 MPH....not 40.

So either the wiki is off, flight model is off, wind is turned on in the DA or foul play.

This being something I've been interested in since surfinn cheated against me and told dolby.....I watch DA films for more then just trying to perfect my flying.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RotBaron on October 01, 2014, 01:54:19 AM
:) intersting, very interesting you say....


little google searching and i figured out about other "skyyr's" and their ability to change things... :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :noid :noid :noid


http://cheese.formice.com/forum/members/skyyr.31807/

 :noid
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Tumor on October 01, 2014, 04:08:59 AM
Never EVER publicly use what you used as the title of this thread... unless your 12 or less.  Then it's ok.  :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 01, 2014, 04:10:42 AM
From what I've read in old posts this actually worked in an early version of Aces High.
Now the only advantage to trimming up is keeping a scaled stick closer to center for finer input.

If it did, it was in beta before I really started to play AH.  I know it was a common thing to do in IL2, it worked in that game.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 10:10:22 AM
Wait, what?  You mean being a better cartoon pilot will net you 40mph faster on a deck merge?

Someone is getting kicked from the muppets as soon as i figure who didn't tell me about this..

So, to be clear, you are not just implying that cheating occurred... you are flat out stating it, yes?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
If it did, it was in beta before I really started to play AH.  I know it was a common thing to do in IL2, it worked in that game.

ack-ack

yes it did. torque was also not modeled as strong in IL2..... at least it wasn't in the early patches... I know things have changed with the later 4.1x patches (ie post-IL2 1946).

Never EVER publicly use what you used as the title of this thread... unless your 12 or less.  Then it's ok.  :old:


OH I completely agree.... but it served its purpose.... just not the ones you think.  :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: waystin2 on October 01, 2014, 10:32:17 AM
Chopping throttle and using some slip will be just as effective in shedding E to force the over shoot, more effective than shutting down the engine and then turning it back on.  It is also a desperation move.

 Like I said, it's just another myth that only really works in the eye of the beholder.

ack-ack

QFT.  My Mk. VIII loves those that willingly shut off their own engine. :D
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 12:37:28 PM
I'm just awaiting the explanation on cartoon plane skills and NOT "less flattering conclusions" net 40mph faster on a deck merge.. lmao

Please directly state what you are implying, Kappa.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 01, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
You " -The Damned- " guys need to quit pulling my squaddies INto your purse fights with the enemy (everyone that's not us) I almost feel left out  :devil  /sarc off

I love watching this though...the dogfighter in me wishes I could play more...but alas...FSO and a hour or two on the weekends is all I have time for...hurts my soul....

See y'all " -The Damned- " guys frame 1  :salute ...also I was never let on to why the ( - ) I'm feeling left out again... :bolt:

Ask Dodger.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 01, 2014, 12:53:49 PM
Chopping throttle and using some slip will be just as effective in shedding E to force the over shoot, more effective than shutting down the engine and then turning it back on.  It is also a desperation move.

When AH first came out and until it was fixed (around 2001 or so) it was used a lot because there was no penalty to doing it but that was ceased to be when the engine start up was changed to stop such gamey tactics.  Like I said, it's just another myth that only really works in the eye of the beholder.

ack-ack


It isn't about E-shedding.  It is about elimination of torque for a rope.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 01, 2014, 01:04:10 PM

It isn't about E-shedding.  It is about elimination of torque for a rope.

If that's his reason, decreasing throttle achieves the same thing without the penalty of the 1-2 second engine start up delay.  Quite frankly, IMO it's rather stupid to turn off your engine if you're trying to rope someone.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on October 01, 2014, 01:20:04 PM
If that's his reason, decreasing throttle achieves the same thing without the penalty of the 1-2 second engine start up delay.  Quite frankly, IMO it's rather stupid to turn off your engine if you're trying to rope someone.

ack-ack

According to him he uses it to do a hammerhead easily cause there's virtually no torque, and that doing an actual hammerhead in AH is impossible with the torque modeling here while the engine is on.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
ki43's wep is only 1 additional 3 legged not very interested lethargic hamster.. ;p

 :headscratch:

(http://media.giphy.com/media/L20kh1HjWvCAE/giphy.gif)

Why all the dancing around?   




Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 01, 2014, 01:38:13 PM

It isn't about E-shedding.  It is about elimination of torque for a rope.

I agree almost verbatem with what AKAK stated about this.

This one time at band camp. I tried calibrating throttle so a tiny push back would kill all throttle but not the engine. Ohh yeahh, that didn't work either.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 01, 2014, 02:13:04 PM
According to him he uses it to do a hammerhead easily cause there's virtually no torque, and that doing an actual hammerhead in AH is impossible with the torque modeling here while the engine is on.


^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 01, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
I agree almost verbatem with what AKAK stated about this.

This one time at band camp. I tried calibrating throttle so a tiny push back would kill all throttle but not the engine. Ohh yeahh, that didn't work either.


Don't shoot the messenger.   I am merely stating the theory and how it is used by the principal being discussed.   He thinks it works.   I see no hard data either way.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 01, 2014, 02:16:09 PM
If that's his reason, decreasing throttle achieves the same thing without the penalty of the 1-2 second engine start up delay.  Quite frankly, IMO it's rather stupid to turn off your engine if you're trying to rope someone.

ack-ack


An idle engine still produces torque and thrust.

I have seen no proof of the efficacy or lack thereof in regard to shutting off the engine in the vertical to facilitate a hammerhead.  If he thinks it works, so be it.   I have no dog in this fight.


That said, a startup penalty is gamey in and of itself.   With a windmilling prop reintroduction of fuel/spark results in an immediate relight in every recip I have ever flown.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: rvflyer on October 01, 2014, 02:29:54 PM

An idle engine still produces torque and thrust.

I have seen no proof of the efficacy or lack thereof in regard to shutting off the engine in the vertical to facilitate a hammerhead.  If he thinks it works, so be it.   I have no dog in this fight.


That said, a startup penalty is gamey in and of itself.   With a windmilling prop reintroduction of fuel/spark results in an immediate relight in every recip I have ever flown.

Actually a engine off is not producing thrust. The props keep turning because of the relative wind pushing against it causing it to continue to turn which causes drag. You did say idle engine which is different than shutting off a engine which is what I believe the topic was about.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 01, 2014, 02:47:05 PM
Actually a engine off is not producing thrust. The props keep turning because of the relative wind pushing against it causing it to continue to turn which causes drag. You did say idle engine which is different than shutting off a engine which is what I believe the topic was about.


An engine at idle produces thrust.   Try sitting in a Mustang at idle without the brakes on.  It will roll--very fast if allowed.

We are discussing the difference between idle and off in regard to both thrust and torque.    The engine off trick is primarily meant to address torque, not thrust.   Whether or not it actually works is best left to gamers with more experience than I possess.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 01, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
Did you watch the film I posted Fulcrum?

The difference between normal power and WEP is 10 mph in a ki43....where does the extra 30 mph come from is my question.

Is the wiki wrong...FM wrong...foul play...did he accidentally fly to 5 k then dive in and forgot  to let his Dueling partner know he had more E?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 03:07:56 PM
Did you watch the film I posted Fulcrum?

The difference between normal power and WEP is 10 mph in a ki43....where does the extra 30 mph come from is my question.

Is the wiki wrong...FM wrong...foul play...did he accidentally fly to 5 k then dive in and forgot  to let his Dueling partner know he had more E?

I know exactly what you are stating, Junky....and at least you are directly stating it....but your statement isn't an acceptable substitute.  

Please allow Kappa and/or the other parties make a direct statement that cheating or underhanded tactics were used.  It is also fine if they acknowledge agreement with your assessment and consider your opinion as a suitable proxy.  Thanks.  :salute
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 01, 2014, 03:34:39 PM
I know exactly what you are stating, Junky....and at least you are directly stating it....but your statement isn't an acceptable substitute.  

Please allow Kappa and/or the other parties make a direct statement that cheating or underhanded tactics were used.  It is also fine if they acknowledge agreement with your assessment and consider your opinion as a suitable proxy.  Thanks.  :salute

Junky was one of the other parties, so your motion to have kappa restate his statement is denied based on Junky satisfying the requirements you stated in your statement. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Junky was one of the other parties, so your motion to have kappa restate his statement is denied based on Junky satisfying the requirements you stated in your statement.  


Excellent.  

So, to be clear, both you and Junky are specifically stating:

1.) He had more E at the merge in the duels.

2.) His E advantage at merge could only be because he employed underhanded tactics.  

3.) It is the opinion of yourself, Junky and Kappa, three experienced and skilled cartoon pilots, that there is simply no other way to obtain that significant a difference in E regardless of the plane...but especially in the case of the Ki43 and it's 'three-legged hamster' engine.

4.) Thus the losses incurred by the two of you are, at best, questionable.  

Did I get all that right?  Please let me know if anything is incorrect or needs to be modified.

Oh, does Changeup want to weigh in on these questions? Or can I consider Junky's opinion as his proxy too?



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 01, 2014, 04:25:08 PM

Excellent.  

So, to be clear, both you and Junky are specifically stating:

1.) He had more E at the merge in the duels.

2.) His E advantage at merge could only be because he employed underhanded tactics.  

3.) It is the opinion of yourself, Junky and Kappa, three experienced and skilled cartoon pilots, that there is simply no other way to obtain that significant a difference in E regardless of the plane...but especially in the case of the Ki43 and it's 'three-legged hamster' engine.

4.) Thus the losses incurred by the two of you are, at best, questionable.  

Did I get all that right?  Please let me know if anything is incorrect or needs to be modified.

Oh, does Changeup want to weigh in on these questions? Or can I consider Junky's opinion as his proxy too?





I don't think I stated in any of my statements a statement that's anywhere close to what you just stated.  My only statement was that your petitioning for more statements to clarify other statements was silly, since you stated to Junky that you knew what he meant when he stated what he stated. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 01, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
40 knots makes a huge difference in dueling. I don't see why someone would not use wep. You would have to be doing something obscure to have that much more speed in 1v1 duel in the DA. Just saying...
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 04:31:08 PM
I don't think I stated in any of my statements a statement that's anywhere close to what you just stated.  My only statement was that your petitioning for more statements to clarify other statements was silly, since you stated to Junky that you knew what he meant when he stated what he stated. 

Do you think he cheated, Triton?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Nathan60 on October 01, 2014, 04:36:10 PM
I don't think I stated in any of my statements a statement that's anywhere close to what you just stated.  My only statement was that your petitioning for more statements to clarify other statements was silly, since you stated to Junky that you knew what he meant when he stated what he stated. 
Statement, did somebody learn a new word? Made quite the statement with your statement, statements.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
40 knots makes a huge difference in dueling. I don't see why someone would not use wep. You would have to be doing something obscure to have that much more speed in 1v1 duel in the DA. Just saying...

 Ah yes..."Obscure".   That sounds so much nicer than 'underhanded'...not as many negative connotations.  

Assume that no cheating or bending of rules was employed: If you, Kappa, Triton and Junky (all very skilled AH pilots, no one is disputing that) are unsure how the E advantage was gained....why wouldn't that be indicative of the pilot's skill?  

Is it because you and the others think it's probably something 'gamey' like turning the engine off?  

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 01, 2014, 05:27:09 PM
Statement, did somebody learn a new word? Made quite the statement with your statement, statements.

Turrible.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 01, 2014, 05:29:45 PM
Do you think he cheated, Triton?

Did I state that?   Go review the plethora of statements I've made on the stated topic.   
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Aspen on October 01, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
Here's how I do it:

I leave my gear down and break them off on a hangar to save weight.  Then I dump 1/2 my ammo to save weight.  Then I climb out and dive down to merge alt.  Then on the second merge I try and force the HO and position myself so that I lose one elevator and one aileron to his shots (more weight).  I will be E fighting so I don't really need many control surfaces.  Then I panic because in spite of all I've done right, I am losing.  In desperation, I stick stir until my controls lock up and then auger.  I rage log and give thanks that I was flying under my shade.  I run upstairs  and my Mom wipes my tears and makes me a peanut butter and honey sandwich.  She tells me I will always be a winner in her eyes.  I go to my room, hold a mirror up to the fish bowl and antagonize my Betta fish until I feel my confidence return.  Then back to the basement and AH.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 01, 2014, 05:41:57 PM
Here's how I do it:

I leave my gear down and break them off on a hangar to save weight.  Then I dump 1/2 my ammo to save weight.  Then I climb out and dive down to merge alt.  Then on the second merge I try and force the HO and position myself so that I lose one elevator and one aileron to his shots (more weight).  I will be E fighting so I don't really need many control surfaces.  Then I panic because in spite of all I've done right, I am losing.  In desperation, I stick stir until my controls lock up and then auger.  I rage log and give thanks that I was flying under my shade.  I run upstairs  and my Mom wipes my tears and makes me a peanut butter and honey sandwich.  She tells me I will always be a winner in her eyes.  I go to my room, hold a mirror up to the fish bowl and antagonize my Betta fish until I feel my confidence return.  Then back to the basement and AH.


I knew it!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 01, 2014, 06:07:27 PM
Breaking the gear off before a fight creates drag and you will go slower lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 01, 2014, 06:13:37 PM
Lol fulcrum being all drama queen again...

I know exactly how he did it... sure as hell wasn't from a better skilled cartoon pilot..
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RotBaron on October 01, 2014, 06:14:58 PM
I don't think I stated in any of my statements a statement that's anywhere close to what you just stated.  My only statement was that your petitioning for more statements to clarify other statements was silly, since you stated to Junky that you knew what he meant when he stated what he stated. 


 :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 01, 2014, 06:23:56 PM
Did I state that?   Go review the plethora of statements I've made on the stated topic.  

You?  Oh no...not directly.  But that's the whole idea, isn't it? Acknowledge the loss, but tarnish it in some way by IMPLYING "obscure" forces were at work?  I wonder what those could have been? Gravity from the cartoon moon? Cartoon tailwinds?  

Hey, at least Junky had the cojones to come out and say it...


The KI43 example can be found here....notice the speed in the first fight. Now by the wiki the difference if at max speed should only be 10 MPH....not 40.

So either the wiki is off, flight model is off, wind is turned on in the DA or foul play.


Oh...and let's not forget Kappa...who comes about as close to directly stating it as he can without actually doing so:

Wait, what?  You mean being a better cartoon pilot will net you 40mph faster on a deck merge?

I'm just awaiting the explanation on cartoon plane skills and NOT "less flattering conclusions" net 40mph faster on a deck merge.. lmao

but then again, he just goes on implying something happened, doesn't provide the details, and states it doesn't mean a thing.

I know exactly how he did it... sure as hell wasn't from a better skilled cartoon pilot..

The true 'genius' of all this is it's a Kobayashi Maru. A no-win scenario that calls into question the results from any past or future duels!

*golf clap*

I guess you or Kappa won't just come out and say he cheated....after all, if it could somehow be proved he didn't that might call into question some of the narrative you guys have been building for nearly six months.  

Can't have that now can we?   :D





Oh....my thanks to those who provided the smokescreen. Magnificent job....couldn't have done better if I'd given you a script.   :aok

:salute and Cya!  



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 01, 2014, 06:24:38 PM
Did I state that?   Go review the plethora of statements I've made on the stated topic.   
A plethora??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IYDNymkUZc
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 01, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
were these fights not filmed from take off?  if not, then why not because it would surely remove any doubt at all wouldnt it?    if all combatants are in level flight and full power or WEP to the merge I would be a little bit curious to as to why just one plane is 30 to 40 miles an hour faster.. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 01, 2014, 06:59:54 PM
Here's how I do it:

I leave my gear down and break them off on a hangar to save weight.  Then I dump 1/2 my ammo to save weight.  Then I climb out and dive down to merge alt.  Then on the second merge I try and force the HO and position myself so that I lose one elevator and one aileron to his shots (more weight).  I will be E fighting so I don't really need many control surfaces.  Then I panic because in spite of all I've done right, I am losing.  In desperation, I stick stir until my controls lock up and then auger.  I rage log and give thanks that I was flying under my shade.  I run upstairs  and my Mom wipes my tears and makes me a peanut butter and honey sandwich.  She tells me I will always be a winner in her eyes.  I go to my room, hold a mirror up to the fish bowl and antagonize my Betta fish until I feel my confidence return.  Then back to the basement and AH.




I nominate this for best post of the year!!!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: scott66 on October 01, 2014, 07:24:00 PM
Here's how I do it:

I leave my gear down and break them off on a hangar to save weight.  Then I dump 1/2 my ammo to save weight.  Then I climb out and dive down to merge alt.  Then on the second merge I try and force the HO and position myself so that I lose one elevator and one aileron to his shots (more weight).  I will be E fighting so I don't really need many control surfaces.  Then I panic because in spite of all I've done right, I am losing.  In desperation, I stick stir until my controls lock up and then auger.  I rage log and give thanks that I was flying under my shade.  I run upstairs  and my Mom wipes my tears and makes me a peanut butter and honey sandwich.  She tells me I will always be a winner in her eyes.  I go to my room, hold a mirror up to the fish bowl and antagonize my Betta fish until I feel my confidence return.  Then back to the basement and AH.


hmmmm :headscratch: I tried that it didn't work :rofl :neener:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 01, 2014, 07:57:18 PM
Well fulcrum this is your thread and you seem to have placed yourself as skyrs frontal objection to the community.. explain how you achieve 40mph faster on an agreed deck merge so we won't have "less flattering conclusions"... I'm just using your words you used in his defense... explain that skill to me..
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 01, 2014, 09:51:25 PM
You?  Oh no...not directly.  But that's the whole idea, isn't it? Acknowledge the loss, but tarnish it in some way by IMPLYING "obscure" forces were at work?  I wonder what those could have been? Gravity from the cartoon moon? Cartoon tailwinds?  

Hey, at least Junky had the cojones to come out and say it...

Indirect statements which are hearsay and not admissible in this court.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 01, 2014, 11:18:13 PM
Ha having balls to do what guy? Say a guy is gaming a game? Hahahahaha you ask so little to prove my man hood.....

Something is wrong in that film...we have said and shown the problem...your dodging to answer with your honest opinion which just makes it look worse for the cause your trying to protect....

What is your honest opinion, WEP  has been ruled out so don't say that.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 02, 2014, 09:01:23 AM
Vx/Vy Einsteins....

double somefolks(double dumb){ somefolks(dumb); return somefolks;}; // some folks are just recursively dumb..
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Max on October 02, 2014, 09:17:23 AM
Here's how I do it:

I leave my gear down and break them off on a hangar to save weight.  Then I dump 1/2 my ammo to save weight.  Then I climb out and dive down to merge alt.  Then on the second merge I try and force the HO and position myself so that I lose one elevator and one aileron to his shots (more weight).  I will be E fighting so I don't really need many control surfaces.  Then I panic because in spite of all I've done right, I am losing.  In desperation, I stick stir until my controls lock up and then auger.  I rage log and give thanks that I was flying under my shade.  I run upstairs  and my Mom wipes my tears and makes me a peanut butter and honey sandwich.  She tells me I will always be a winner in her eyes.  I go to my room, hold a mirror up to the fish bowl and antagonize my Betta fish until I feel my confidence return.  Then back to the basement and AH.



Some one out there in AH land will give this a try before the end of the week...guaranteed  :devil
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 02, 2014, 09:33:06 AM
Already did.  Lol I replaced all the water in my fishes tank with vodka, hehehe he's so drunk that he's been passed out for a day.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Max on October 02, 2014, 09:49:56 AM
Oh my  :eek:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 02, 2014, 10:00:26 AM
Ummmm guys! Is it normal for fish to shed their skin?!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 02, 2014, 11:21:44 AM
Vx/Vy Einsteins....

double somefolks(double dumb){ somefolks(dumb); return somefolks;}; // some folks are just recursively dumb..


Did this get lost in the clutter already???
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on October 02, 2014, 11:24:03 AM
Ummmm guys! Is it normal for fish to shed their skin?!

 :rofl


Should not have placed vodka in teh tank.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 02, 2014, 12:24:29 PM
Some one out there in AH land will give this a try before the end of the week...guaranteed  :devil

I used to do it in the Stuka, well, at least the breaking off the landing gear part.  It actually does net you a little bit of more speed and maneuverability in that slow flying coffin.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2014, 01:12:53 PM
Vx/Vy Einsteins....

double somefolks(double dumb){ somefolks(dumb); return somefolks;}; // some folks are just recursively dumb..
Funny you should jump in Kruel....I was suspicious of our duels, 7 fights every time we hit icon range you had about 50 MPH more then me.

Didn't make a difference in the end.

Here's my next question so Fulcrum and Kruel don't have to worry that their turnless leader isn't being called out for cheating. If a player doesn't use WEP to get to icon range in the DA is he going to reach his max speed prior to merge? It's a bout a half sector to where most fights take place, I would assume so but I have not had the time to test this,(Hell most of my posts here come when I'm sitting on the crapper, go figure the grammar is disgusting) if so it changes dueling for me completely.

See my mindset is save my wep until ICON range so I have it when I need it in the fight....but boosting to the fight I won't need it as much because I should have an E advantage and or the other guy is going to run out when I do so it doesn't matter.

Fulcrum is making this out to be more then it really is, I could care less after the surfinn incident because now I feel if someone thinks they need to cheat to beat me, I must be pretty good.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Canspec on October 02, 2014, 01:41:57 PM
Vx/Vy Einsteins....

double somefolks(double dumb){ somefolks(dumb); return somefolks;}; // some folks are just recursively dumb..

 :rofl........Vx/Vy........you guys really are expert pilots.... :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2014, 01:51:16 PM
Vx/Vy doesn't matter when the merge is on the deck BTW :noid :noid :noid
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Aspen on October 02, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Vx/Vy doesn't matter when the merge is on the deck BTW :noid :noid :noid

Thats old school Junky.  Your stuck in the past when a deck merge meant get wheels up, fly directly to your opponent on the deck.   :D 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 02, 2014, 03:02:08 PM
Vx/Vy doesn't matter when the merge is on the deck BTW :noid :noid :noid

Good point...
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Gman on October 02, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
"Turnless Leader".  Bahaha.

LCD requiring a quick wipe after that one.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 04:08:17 PM
Vx/Vy doesn't matter when the merge is on the deck BTW :noid :noid :noid

Yeah it does.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2014, 04:33:24 PM
Yeah it does.
Care to explain? Or are you just getting post count up?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 02, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
Thats old school Junky.  Your stuck in the past when a deck merge meant get wheels up, fly directly to your opponent on the deck.   :D 

LeL
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 04:47:56 PM
Care to explain? Or are you just getting post count up?

If I were paid to explain the basic of aerodynamics to people I would gladly but HiTech hasn't included me in their payroll yet.  :rolleyes:

I have never really looked at my post count but now that you mention it I think I will work on that.  :devil
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2014, 04:55:36 PM
If I were paid to explain the basic of aerodynamics to people I would gladly but HiTech hasn't included me in their payroll yet.  :rolleyes:

I have never really looked at my post count but now that you mention it I think I will work on that.  :devil
Correct me if I'm wrong Vx/Vy deals with max climb and sustain climb.....if so then what the hell are you talking about and how the hell does the Navy think you can lead men in Naval Combat
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: bustr on October 02, 2014, 05:39:12 PM
Psst, Junky,

Even the ARMY has an Aviation wing. It's just the fixed wing branch is mostly people and asset movers. The NAVY has fast movers with teeth. Butttt, ARMY helo have some teeth that can screw a fast mover's pooch. We don't need to get the leatherneck's involved. I hear they have bayonets mounted on their fast movers. Come to think of it, big piggys have two curved bayonets........ 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong Vx/Vy deals with max climb and sustain climb.....if so then what the hell are you talking about and how the hell does the Navy think you can lead men in Naval Combat

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365780.0.html

You just answered your own question then.

Vx and Vy does matter with a deck merge.

 :lol

**edit**

If Vx and Vy doesn't matter with a deck merge, why does it matter with a 5k merge?  :rolleyes:

I didn't know I had to lead in Combat given that I am an engineer major and just want to build manure.  :P
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Doc72 on October 02, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
Psst, Junky,

Even the ARMY has an Aviation wing. It's just the fixed wing branch is mostly people and asset movers. The NAVY has fast movers with teeth. Butttt, ARMY helo have some teeth that can screw a fast mover's pooch. We don't need to get the leatherneck's involved. I hear they have bayonets mounted on their fast movers. Come to think of it, big piggys have two curved bayonets........ 

Having served in the Army myself, all I have to say is.... :neener:  :neener:  :rofl  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Aspen on October 02, 2014, 06:43:45 PM
I always consider Vx and Vy when climbing to the deck
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 02, 2014, 07:15:34 PM
 
I always consider Vx and Vy when climbing to the deck
:rofl :rofl you know I should probably start thinking about that when I climb to the deck, thanks for the pointers
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
Ignored him...you should ignore anyone who makes fake accents.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 02, 2014, 08:20:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong Vx/Vy deals with max climb and sustain climb.....if so then what the hell are you talking about and how the hell does the Navy think you can lead men in Naval Combat

Vx is Best Angle - Height over distance.
Vy is Best Rate - Height over time.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 08:48:15 PM
Ignored him...you should ignore anyone who makes fake accents.

 :rofl

How long ago was that? 4 years, maybe 5?

Talking about living in the stone age. You probably still have a pager and a TV with a butt and antennas too.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
Vx is Best Angle - Height over distance.
Vy is Best Rate - Height over time.

But apparently neither of these matter on the merge.  :old:

You aren't to climb, you are to stay level on the deck. Whoever runs out of fuel first losses.
I recommend 100% fuel and a DT.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Gman on October 02, 2014, 10:35:30 PM
If you shut your engine off, does it subtract time from your logbook "time in flight"?  19,999 hours here we come Vraciu.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2014, 10:48:30 PM
I always consider Vx and Vy when climbing to the deck
I don't know what that kid is smoking but it's keeping him in the Naval Academy. Like the stereotypical officer, no common sense. Helping the cause greatly.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 11:29:45 PM
I don't know what that kid is smoking but it's keeping him in the Naval Academy. Like the stereotypical officer, no common sense. Helping the cause greatly.

I wish I could score a 21 on an ASVAB to roll in dirt with you.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Gman on October 02, 2014, 11:36:15 PM
You guys should just have a dance off.

Junky to "Over hill over dale", and Ghost to "Anchors Aweigh".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtdIO23MKM
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 02, 2014, 11:42:07 PM
You guys should just have a dance off.

Junky to "Over hill over dale", and Ghost to "Anchors Aweigh".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtdIO23MKM

I got moves like jagger.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 02, 2014, 11:46:55 PM
I wish I could score a 21 on an ASVAB to roll in dirt with you.  :rolleyes:
I think he rolled around in the sand and earned a hell of a lot of respect in doing so.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Scotch on October 02, 2014, 11:48:27 PM


And who are you again?  :lol



What little pebble have you emerged from? I'm Scotch from the peak of the mountain. Cower before me, tinklepants.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 03, 2014, 12:01:59 AM
I think he rolled around in the sand and earned a hell of a lot of respect in doing so.
"Best Job I Ever Had"

Ghost my GT is 116....I could have picked any job the US Army has. I went Infantry because their espirit de corps is similar to what the USMC has.

Follow Me
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Canspec on October 03, 2014, 02:47:45 PM
I wish I could score a 21 on an ASVAB to roll in dirt with you.  :rolleyes:

If he was or is rolling in the dirt serving your country, you should respect his service........that is the answer of a kid......not an officer...... :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 03, 2014, 07:46:25 PM
If he was or is rolling in the dirt serving your country, you should respect his service........that is the answer of a kid......not an officer...... :old:

Service is when it is free or required.   Otherwise it is more akin to being a mercenary--or a pol.   "Service."

 :bolt:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: iKo on October 03, 2014, 07:47:59 PM

Excellent.  

So, to be clear, both you and Junky are specifically stating:

1.) He had more E at the merge in the duels.

2.) His E advantage at merge could only be because he employed underhanded tactics.  

3.) It is the opinion of yourself, Junky and Kappa, three experienced and skilled cartoon pilots, that there is simply no other way to obtain that significant a difference in E regardless of the plane...but especially in the case of the Ki43 and it's 'three-legged hamster' engine.

4.) Thus the losses incurred by the two of you are, at best, questionable.  

Did I get all that right?  Please let me know if anything is incorrect or needs to be modified.

Oh, does Changeup want to weigh in on these questions? Or can I consider Junky's opinion as his proxy too?

:O Not sure what all the fuss is about and he lost every fight anyway, so I am not sure how you can call that cheating or are you saying he tryed. The 40 mph thing wasn't going to make a difference as you saw he lost them all. Its also why I picked the Ki43 also more so he couldn't run away witch he like to do (ops ) he calls it extending witch you really dont need to do in a duel unless you blow your ACM skills  ;). If you worried about Him or anyone diving in for the merge speed just make it a 1.5k icon max range or they forfeit the fight. I have asked him as iKo to duel this way and he will not  :rofl that's why I had to shade to get the fights in the first place  :devil
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RotBaron on October 03, 2014, 10:49:22 PM
I have yet to see him ever be the first to give a <S> where he lost, he will immediately talk smak on 200 if he gets you though. Don't know what's up the craw but it's got to be uncomfortable.

As I said to him a few weeks back, TC should terribly embarrassed for his squad and also for him.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 03, 2014, 11:30:39 PM
I have yet to see him ever be the first to give a <S> where he lost, he will immediately talk smak on 200 if he gets you though. Don't know what's up the craw but it's got to be uncomfortable.

As I said to him a few weeks back, TC should terribly embarrassed for his squad and also for him.

They're not in the squad anymore.  Tempers flared and crayons were snapped. That's the word on the street anyway.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 03, 2014, 11:50:41 PM
They're not in the squad anymore.  Tempers flared and crayons were snapped. That's the word on the street anyway.
Dodger started a third wing
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 04, 2014, 01:03:39 AM
I have yet to see him ever be the first to give a <S> where he lost, he will immediately talk smak on 200 if he gets you though. Don't know what's up the craw but it's got to be uncomfortable.

As I said to him a few weeks back, TC should terribly embarrassed for his squad and also for him.


Truth nuke.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 04, 2014, 01:07:51 AM
Dodger started a third wing

Dodger joined the "first wing" and afterbirth was produced.


Five squad names and a (space bar) later we now have two.....


I explained all this to TC when I was unilaterally kicked by Kruel for standing on principle, but he (TC) had other ideas due to his detached leadership style.


Any how, it is clear now why I forced the issue.   Glad I am gone.


But no hard feelings.  It is a game.  All of this drama is a bit silly.  I apologize for contributing.

In the meantime, Skyyr will be #1 Fighter this tour, as he vowed to me he would be one day once he "figure(d) this game out".    (That boy is a tenacious little MF.) Tan yourselves in the glow.  <S>

May The New Damned do well.  I just hope they can be a bit more mentorly about it.   Kruel has the instincts. Fess does, too.  We shall see.

Meanwhile, I have gone from 0.6:1 in my first tour to 2.52:1 (on a pace of almost 4:1 at the end of last tour) in part due to what I learned from Skyyr et. al. (SFox, Messiah, DrDeathx, etc.).     :)

(Oh, and the F4U-4 sucks big time.  Wobbly, fuel guzzling, overrated POS.  Bleh.  Anyone who whines about being killed by that brick should be banned along with anyone who brags over killing one.  Some inside baseball here.)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Debrody on October 04, 2014, 04:12:45 AM
This thread is pointless.

+1 to post count.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: zack1234 on October 04, 2014, 04:17:11 AM
Yes nothing about why i am awesome :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 04, 2014, 12:55:12 PM
This thread is pointless.

+1 to post count.

 :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 04, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
They're not in the squad anymore.  Tempers flared and crayons were snapped. That's the word on the street anyway.

Yup.

Dunno why Dodger wouldn't be welcomed.   Dude is a pretty good stick and has always been nice in my experience.

Having two squadrons with the same name is a bit odd, too.  Oh well.   It is none of my business.   :salute
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RTR on October 04, 2014, 02:45:13 PM
I have yet to see him ever be the first to give a <S> where he lost, he will immediately talk smak on 200 if he gets you though. Don't know what's up the craw but it's got to be uncomfortable.

As I said to him a few weeks back, TC should terribly embarrassed for his squad and also for him.

They are not with The Damned and haven't been for a while now.  Their choice.

Dodger is with the Damned.  (TC's)

Please don't confuse the two squads, they are most definitely separate squads.

RTR
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: scott66 on October 04, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
Dodger and junky jumped ship so to speak and became bish to fight squadies at 187 it was a blast....except dam nits kept sending me to the tower :headscratch: BULLYS!! :neener:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 04, 2014, 07:09:15 PM
What little pebble have you emerged from? I'm Scotch from the peak of the mountain. Cower before me, tinklepants.

I know who you are.  Welcome back.

:O Not sure what all the fuss is about and he lost every fight anyway, so I am not sure how you can call that cheating or are you saying he tryed. The 40 mph thing wasn't going to make a difference as you saw he lost them all. Its also why I picked the Ki43 also more so he couldn't run away witch he like to do (ops ) he calls it extending witch you really dont need to do in a duel unless you blow your ACM skills  ;). If you worried about Him or anyone diving in for the merge speed just make it a 1.5k icon max range or they forfeit the fight. I have asked him as iKo to duel this way and he will not  :rofl that's why I had to shade to get the fights in the first place  :devil

Not at all.  It has been subtly implied he did so for some other fights. 

By the way....when, exactly, did these fights between you and he occur?  And why are you yelling?  :headscratch:

They're not in the squad anymore.  Tempers flared and crayons were snapped. That's the word on the street anyway.

Why do you continue attempting to spread this stuff around like a gossipy old woman?

This thread is pointless.

+1 to post count.

Oh no...it has a point  It is just that point escapes you.  Thank you for the input. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 04, 2014, 10:57:54 PM
And he still hasn't given an actual answer...

Grow some balls little boy...become a man.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 05, 2014, 12:29:27 AM
And he still hasn't given an actual answer...

Grow some balls little boy...become a man.

Excuse me..but an answer to what?  

If you are referring to the speed difference at merge....I believe Kruel gave you the answer far more eloquently than I could.  Or are you discounting that?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 05, 2014, 02:05:48 AM
Excuse me..but an answer to what?  

If you are referring to the speed difference at merge....I believe Kruel gave you the answer far more eloquently than I could.  Or are you discounting that?

Climb rate/angle = irrelevant in a deck merge.   As previously pointed out...   Try again.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: xPoisonx on October 05, 2014, 03:45:29 AM
5 years from now you all will be dead from Ebola and this thread will be long gone... why waste your precious hours on it.

 :bolt:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: RotBaron on October 05, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
5 years from now you all will be dead from Ebola and this thread will be long gone... why waste your precious hours on it.

 :bolt:

Never let rationale thought get in the way of a good ego chest thumpin'  
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 05, 2014, 02:50:52 PM
And he still hasn't given an actual answer...

Grow some balls little boy...become a man.

hes a dainser!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs2T0QBzGCE
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 05, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
Excuse me..but an answer to what?  

If you are referring to the speed difference at merge....I believe Kruel gave you the answer far more eloquently than I could.  Or are you discounting that?

The simple truth is that he came in higher than the agreed upon merge altitude and then right before icon range, he dove to the deck to gain some extra speed so he'd have the energy advantage on the merge.  You know it, he knows and we know it.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: SkyRock on October 05, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
The simple truth is that he came in higher than the agreed upon merge altitude and then right before icon range, he dove to the deck to gain some extra speed so he'd have the energy advantage on the merge.  You know it, he knows and we know it.

ack-ack
yup... :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 05, 2014, 07:20:28 PM
So anyone from Skyyr's "The Damned" have anything to say about that?

put a big * by any of his so called wins
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 05, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
So anyone from Skyyr's "The Damned" have anything to say about that?

put a big * by any of his so called wins

You should call them "The Damned_" since I think there is a space in there.   JK.  :)  
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
So anyone from Skyyr's "The Damned" have anything to say about that?

put a big * by any of his so called wins

Like I said....at least you had the cajones to just state your charge, rather than dancing around implying it for fear it might be wrong.  That deserves some respect, dispite the fact you are being used as a shield.  :salute



yup... :aok

And I guess this is as close as we will get to a Muppet directly claiming he cheated.  By "close" I mean via proxies....and non-AoM proxies at that!  My...how very bold and courageous, O' honorable and hirsute puppets!!!    :rofl

My part in this little charade was to draw out what was being implied and, most importantly, by whom.*  I think that's been a success for the most part.   

As for a reply...welllll...methinks one will be forecoming shortly.   ;) :lol













* And a big thanks again to those who provided the inspiration.   :devil  :salute
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 08:45:08 AM
Ha!  You all just got pwnt by Fulcrum because everything in this thread turned out just like he knew it would!  He is smart and you guys aren't!   :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 09:14:33 AM
Ha!  You all just got pwnt by Fulcrum because everything in this thread turned out just like he knew it would!  He is smart and you guys aren't!   :old:

:lol  I'd love to put on the Mensa cap....but I just can't in this case.  It really didn't take a genius to figure out how some here would react.   :lol


Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
Obviously it comes down to having better ACM in order to gain an estimated 40 mph faster speed on a deck merge. Duh!!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 06, 2014, 09:24:00 AM
:lol  I'd love to put on the Mensa cap....but I just can't in this case.  It really didn't take a genius to figure out how some here would react.   :lol



Bloody good show Chester! You really gave them the what for.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 09:30:10 AM
I have been asked to post the first official response to the charges.  It seems that some are currently prevented from doing so for various reasons.  I'd better get this posted now because I think I will shortly be in the same boat.   :)


https://www.mediafire.com/?raa6yzb15e48i58  (https://www.mediafire.com/?raa6yzb15e48i58)


I guess at least few of those wins won't need that "*", eh?   ;)




Thanks for playing!  :aok


Bloody good show Chester! You really gave them the what for.

Nah.  It was a cooperative effort, Slashicles...thanks for pitching in!  :lol

Obviously it comes down to having better ACM in order to gain an estimated 40 mph faster speed on a deck merge. Duh!!  :rolleyes:

So it is estimated now?  Maybe it was only 25mph?  15mph?  5?   :lol

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: BaldEagl on October 06, 2014, 09:50:46 AM
Obviously it comes down to having better ACM in order to gain an estimated 40 mph faster speed on a deck merge. Duh!!  :rolleyes:

You have to hold the stick vewy vewy still and twim just wight.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 09:53:46 AM
Fulcrum, as the new spokesman for The Damned (2), what do you plan on doing differently than your predecessor?  Do you plan on eventually moving your office from underneath Skyyr's skirt, or has that become tradition at this point?  
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 06, 2014, 10:00:45 AM
I have been asked to post the first official response to the charges.  It seems that some are currently prevented from doing so for various reasons. 

Self respect?  Na, nevermind, that's not it.   :uhoh

I'd better get this posted now because I think I will shortly be in the same boat.   :)

We can only hope..  :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
Fulcrum, as the new spokesman for The Damned (2), what do you plan on doing differently than your predecessor?  Do you plan on eventually moving your office from underneath Skyyr's skirt, or has that become tradition at this point?  

Spokesman?  Hardly.  I think Skyyr and Kurel do a fine job.  Skyyr, however, isn't currently able to do so.  Besides, no Muppet would (or did) state the accusation out.  Innuendo is just as effective and presents far less risk. 

Self respect?  Na, nevermind, that's not it.   :uhoh

Hey there!  Thanks again!   :aok

We can only hope..  :aok

Oh....I don't think that will have anything to do with it.  :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 10:34:40 AM
Spokesman?  Hardly.  I think Skyyr and Kurel do a fine job.  Skyyr, however, isn't currently able to do so.  Besides, no Muppet would (or did) state the accusation out.  Innuendo is just as effective and presents far less risk. 

I have been asked to post the first official response to the charges. 

You're a spokesman.  The most expendable usually are.   :)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 06, 2014, 10:46:24 AM

So it is estimated now?  Maybe it was only 25mph?  15mph?  5?   :lol

No, I actually haven't even seen the video. I'm just going with what I've read about the fights on this thread. I'm sure you feel good to stand up for your squadie on his behalf, but I'm not sure you even understand how he was able to get this speed advantage and are making blind accusations on his part because you are his squad member.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 06, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
The simple truth is that he came in higher than the agreed upon merge altitude and then right before icon range, he dove to the deck to gain some extra speed so he'd have the energy advantage on the merge.  You know it, he knows and we know it.

ack-ack
Like I said....at least you had the cajones to just state your charge, rather than dancing around implying it for fear it might be wrong.  That deserves some respect, dispite the fact you are being used as a shield.  :salute



And I guess this is as close as we will get to a Muppet directly claiming he cheated.  By "close" I mean via proxies....and non-AoM proxies at that!  My...how very bold and courageous, O' honorable and hirsute puppets!!!    :rofl

My part in this little charade was to draw out what was being implied and, most importantly, by whom.*  I think that's been a success for the most part.  

As for a reply...welllll...methinks one will be forecoming shortly.   ;) :lol













* And a big thanks again to those who provided the inspiration.   :devil  :salute

Answer the question at hand here... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 11:00:25 AM
No, I actually haven't even seen the video. I'm just going with what I've read about the fights on this thread. I'm sure you feel good to stand up for your squadie on his behalf, but I'm not sure you even understand how he was able to get this speed advantage and are making blind accusations on his part because you are his squad member.

Correction, sir.  I've made no "blind" accusations.  I've seen the film from Skyyr's perspective.  The only "blind" accusations made did not originate with me.  I simply called out those who were making them to do so OPENLY, not hidden behind snide remarks and innuendo.  This has not been well received but that was expected.

You're a spokesman.  The most expendable usually are.   :)

:headscratch: Hmmmmm...

1.) You made more posts in this thread than any other member of AoM by a wide margin.

2.) Of your last 60 posts, 31 (~51.67%) have been posted about The Damned or Skyyr.

3.) This tracks pretty well with my own recent postings trends.

So you may be on to something!    :aok

Answer the question at hand here... :rolleyes:

And what, exactly, is this question?  
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 06, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Which films are being discussed? So much going on in this thread, is this another one of those, "Hey guys look at these 8 month old duel films!"  let me know so I can go back to ignoring this thread.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 06, 2014, 11:12:45 AM
Spokesman?  Hardly.  I think Skyyr and Kurel do a fine job.  Skyyr, however, isn't currently able to do so.  


Wha' happened? Too many Rule #4 and Rule #2 violations in HELP AND TRAINING ?    

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,366145.msg4874192.html#msg4874192

Skuzzy has his ban hammer out again it appears.

:noid
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 06, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
51.67%?! Damn, that was precise rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 11:16:53 AM
Saying things for other people = spokesman.  




Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 11:17:42 AM
51.67%?! Damn, that was precise rofl

Nah.  Rough estimate.  

I didn't go into every post, just picked ones which were obvious.  So the percentage may actually be higher.  
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 06, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
IBTL.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
Saying things for other people = spokesman.   

:lol  Yes, but in my case I am doing so for a squadmate.

But then on the other hand:

Junky was one of the other parties, so your motion to have kappa restate his statement is denied based on Junky satisfying the requirements you stated in your statement.  

I guess you should give Junky his "Official AoM Spokesman" badge now?

 :lol



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 11:22:36 AM
IBTL.

Hush now, V.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Max on October 06, 2014, 11:35:00 AM
May this thread live forever.  :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Hetzer7 on October 06, 2014, 11:38:27 AM
God bless this thread and all who sail on her.

<S> Hetz
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 11:40:24 AM
God bless this thread and all who sail on her.

<S> Hetz

 :lol   :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
:lol  Yes, but in my case I am doing so for a squadmate.

But then on the other hand:

I guess you should give Junky his "Official AoM Spokesman" badge now?

 :lol





That was an important record correction and a notification to you about statements and such.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 06, 2014, 01:05:03 PM
May this thread live forever.  :old:
We're at 12 pages, she's done.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 01:10:40 PM
That was an important record correction and a notification to you about statements and such.

Ah yes.  Wouldn't want it to be said that Junky (a Pig no less!) had the cojones to call someone a cheater outright, when the "Da Mighty Muppets"* preferred to ride his coatails inferring "Crikey! Something is amiss!  :old:".


We're at 12 pages, she's done.

Yet she keeps on chuggin' and the responses from the "loyal opposition" keep getting lamer.....have you watched the film yet, Slashicles?







* "Da Mighty Muppets" is copyright 2014 of Kappa's Merry Band, Inc.  All rights reserved.  Any use of this copyright without the express written consent of Kappa's Merry Band, Inc is prohibited.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 06, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
Hush now, V.

Skuzzy will clamp this thing down shortly.   You know it.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
Skuzzy will clamp this thing down shortly.   You know it.

Yup.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 01:29:14 PM
I never called or insinuated that anybody is cheating.  YOU, Fulcrum of The Damned (2) are cheating, though.  You've just cheated everybody out of the time it took them to read this thread. 

And that merry band stuff is a weak rip off of what we called The Damned (2) for a while.  Get off our boards Fulcrumicles.   :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
I completely agree.  It was sad it took so long for someone to just come out and STATE "He cheated!".   :lol

I wonder what the next accusation will be?   Decompliling the game binaries and libraries into source code and inserting back doors and secret cheat codes?  Paying HTC for faster planes? Unlocking the secret "Like The Flash!" achievement for a 10% increase in speed?    :rolleyes:

Beam me up, Skuzzy.  :salute
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 06, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
I wonder what the next accusation will be?   Decompliling the game binaries and libraries into source code and inserting back doors and secret cheat codes?  Paying HTC for faster planes? Unlocking the secret "Like The Flash!" achievement for a 10% increase in speed?    :rolleyes:

You're only limited by your own imagination.   :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 06, 2014, 02:00:45 PM


And what, exactly, is this question?  
How there is such a gap in speed at merge?

This has been asked numerous times now.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: scott66 on October 06, 2014, 02:01:15 PM
"This thread has run its course".. I can see it now :devil
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: zack1234 on October 06, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
Its only getting started  :old:

If it were not for the Brits this game would not be as good as it is :old:



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Nathan60 on October 06, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
Its only getting started  :old:

If it were not for the Brits this game would not be as good as it is :old:




What do you know of the British your an Ugandan
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 06, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
How there is such a gap in speed at merge?

This has been asked numerous times now.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 06, 2014, 02:46:50 PM
I have not watched the film Fulcrum posted. Does it show Skyrr's end of the KI43 deck merge fight?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 02:51:53 PM
"This thread has run its course".. I can see it now :devil

Yes, it has served its many purposes...some more than others.  :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 06, 2014, 02:52:52 PM
Ah yes.  Wouldn't want it to be said that Junky (a Pig no less!) had the cojones to call someone a cheater outright, when the "Da Mighty Muppets"* preferred to ride his coatails inferring "Crikey! Something is amiss!  :old:".


Yet she keeps on chuggin' and the responses from the "loyal opposition" keep getting lamer.....have you watched the film yet, Slashicles?







* "Da Mighty Muppets" is copyright 2014 of Kappa's Merry Band, Inc.  All rights reserved.  Any use of this copyright without the express written consent of Kappa's Merry Band, Inc is prohibited.
I don't even know wtf you're talking about. What I am supposed to be watching?

And are you comparing me to Popsicles or testicles?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 06, 2014, 04:25:16 PM
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/baghdadfulcrum_zpsbf06f93d.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 06, 2014, 05:00:17 PM
Yes, it has served its many purposes...some more than others.  :lol
Still avoiding the question  :rofl   :aok 

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 05:53:54 PM
I don't even know wtf you're talking about. What I am supposed to be watching?

And are you comparing me to Popsicles or testicles?

Of course you wouldn't. You were far too busy posting witty but meaningless diatribes.

I posted a link to the films a few pages back. Do try to keep up.
Still avoiding the question  :rofl   :aok 



Not at all. You are avoiding mine.

Watch the film...tell me where he cheated. Is this so hard? You are the ACM prodigy, not I. Why ask me when your own eyes can examine the evidence for yourself? Unless, of course, you dont really care what the truth is...which I suspect is the case for many here.



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 06, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
Of course you wouldn't. You were far too busy posting witty but meaningless diatribes.


Like asking you to provide proof of all the PMs you've received from me or the list of my shades? No hurry Buffalo Bill.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: SkyRock on October 06, 2014, 06:10:08 PM
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/baghdadfulcrum_zpsbf06f93d.jpg)

ack-ack
:rofl    :rofl    :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Nathan60 on October 06, 2014, 06:16:04 PM
Because its about as relevant as this thread (http://gifs.gifbin.com/1237643769_family-guy-touchdown-stewie.gif)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Arlo on October 06, 2014, 06:19:38 PM
I don't even know wtf you're talking about. What I am supposed to be watching?

And are you comparing me to Popsicles or testicles?

I'm thinking Fulcrum is attempting to impersonate Borat. This might be funny in person but it loses something in translation online.  :huh :cheers:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 06, 2014, 06:20:10 PM
How there is such a gap in speed at merge?

This has been asked numerous times now.

lol it is amazing..


(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/baghdadfulcrum_zpsbf06f93d.jpg)

ack-ack

lmao that there is goot!


Fulcrum, how do you get lost in your own whine thread?? You know, I actually felt sorry for you the other night b/c it occurred to me that you were not sharp enough to know what we were talking about and just defaulted drama queen b/c we must be accusing someone of cheating.. You posted videos that are not even in question (unless the file name is incorrect) and have gone all drama queen again.. I'm at a loss on what road to take now.. Pity or laughter..
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 06, 2014, 06:20:54 PM
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/baghdadfulcrum_zpsbf06f93d.jpg)

ack-ack

 :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 06, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
So where is the answer for the iko duels....

Oh and Skyrr thinks I'm not worthy of a rematch, his wingman got swept 7 fights....

Kruel it's ok I don't think your worthless, Fulcrum on the other hand....your the spokesperson and can't even answer one question.

YOUR FIRED!!!!!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 07:30:58 PM
Fulcrum, how do you get lost in your own whine thread?? You know, I actually felt sorry for you the other night b/c it occurred to me that you were not sharp enough to know what we were talking about and just defaulted drama queen b/c we must be accusing someone of cheating.. You posted videos that are not even in question (unless the file name is incorrect) and have gone all drama queen again.. I'm at a loss on what road to take now.. Pity or laughter..

Do the films show he cheated?  Simple question.  Stop trying to change the subject and answer the question.  The film's there for you to review.

So where is the answer for the iko duels....

I'm sorry, you guys are switching between duels so much I'm not sure what the question was for the iKo duels.  What is it, did he have 25kts more than iKo at the merge on these and no one can explain it?

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 06, 2014, 07:41:37 PM
Oh the classic run around....
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: icepac on October 06, 2014, 07:47:09 PM
The simple truth is that he came in higher than the agreed upon merge altitude and then right before icon range, he dove to the deck to gain some extra speed so he'd have the energy advantage on the merge.  You know it, he knows and we know it.

ack-ack

Iko dueled me one time last night (he won) when I didn't avoid going HO.

He pushed for a deck merge and I said "5k" and we merged a bit later.

He dove under me slightly and I flew straight and then pulled into a zoom climb and try to keep top position and more energy but I noticed him make a complete 180 and and then start to close so I quickly jumped into a turn fight from a serious disadvantage.

I suspect he had busted altitude for the advantage in energy.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 08:04:35 PM
Oh the classic run around....

Indeed, but it's not being done by me!   :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 08:09:05 PM
Iko dueled me one time last night (he won) when I didn't avoid going HO.

He pushed for a deck merge and I said "5k" and we merged a bit later.

He dove under me slightly and I flew straight and then pulled into a zoom climb and try to keep top position and more energy but I noticed him make a complete 180 and and then start to close so I quickly jumped into a turn fight from a serious disadvantage.

I suspect he had busted altitude for the advantage in energy.

:O

*gasp*

Perish the thought!

I expect iKo will not stand for this insult to his honor. 

He will shortly post a response in bold to show just how mad he is!!!!

:lol

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 06, 2014, 08:21:47 PM
Iko dueled me one time last night (he won) when I didn't avoid going HO.

He pushed for a deck merge and I said "5k" and we merged a bit later.

He dove under me slightly and I flew straight and then pulled into a zoom climb and try to keep top position and more energy but I noticed him make a complete 180 and and then start to close so I quickly jumped into a turn fight from a serious disadvantage.

I suspect he had busted altitude for the advantage in energy.

He probably did something similar that I did in these two duels.

P-38 duel 1 (http://www.mediafire.com/download/61b6qafqntfj1f5/P-38_duel_1.ahf)

P-38 duel 2 (http://www.mediafire.com/download/k2m2jnkvhc4vp4m/P-38_duel_2.ahf)

ack-ack

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: TonyJoey on October 06, 2014, 08:27:22 PM

:O

*gasp*

Perish the thought!

I expect iKo will not stand for this insult to his honor. 

He will shortly post a response in bold to show just how mad he is!!!!

:lol



So your star witness is icepac?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: icepac on October 06, 2014, 08:30:37 PM
Found the film.

The reason I had to turn before the merge is that I had taken off before him and flew away from his base to allow him altitude and airspeed.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365206.msg4878370.html#msg4878370


Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: iKo on October 06, 2014, 09:28:27 PM
Iko dueled me one time last night (he won) when I didn't avoid going HO.

He pushed for a deck merge and I said "5k" and we merged a bit later.

He dove under me slightly and I flew straight and then pulled into a zoom climb and try to keep top position and more energy but I noticed him make a complete 180 and and then start to close so I quickly jumped into a turn fight from a serious disadvantage.

I suspect he had busted altitude for the advantage in energy.

Thank you for posting the film Icepac, it clearly shows you trying to Ho me on the way up way before I fired at all. You said to me that I fired 1st but look at your film in slow mo, i fired way after you had your finger stuck to the trigger.
  Yes I asked for deck merge and you did not want to so I played your game and climbed to 5k, you where at my base already like you where going to vulch me, you didn't but I didn't know your intentions at this point. Then you didnt want to duel again and I asked you to custom room that I and Krupnski where in practicing dueling in. Its to bad you come and stay in our room you would have picked up alot I am sure. I am always willing to help and those that really know me new and old know it to be true.

here is how it all started with him calling me out  :D  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365206.30.html

BTW Fulcrum Bold is not yelling or being mad its for me and all the other old guys that cant see well :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 06, 2014, 09:32:27 PM


BTW Fulcrum Bold is not yelling or being mad its for me and all the other old guys that cant see well :rofl

And we thank you for it.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: icepac on October 06, 2014, 09:46:21 PM
Thank you for posting the film Icepac, it clearly shows you trying to Ho me on the way up way before I fired at all. You said to me that I fired 1st but look at your film in slow mo, i fired way after you had your finger stuck to the trigger.
  Yes I asked for deck merge and you did not want to so I played your game and climbed to 5k, you where at my base already like you where going to vulch me, you didn't but I didn't know your intentions at this point. Then you didnt want to duel again and I asked you to custom room that I and Krupnski where in practicing dueling in. Its to bad you come and stay in our room you would have picked up alot I am sure. I am always willing to help and those that really know me new and old know it to be true.

BTW Fulcrum Bold is not yelling or being mad its for me and all the other old guys that cant see well :rofl


Watch the film again.

You made the reverse that determined we face head on instead of turning for acquiring the six.

The only help I need is from you, as my opponent, not breaking the agreement for the advantage...........which is the common theme from the two separate duels referenced in this thread.

Don't confuse gaming the game for every advantage with skill.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: TonyJoey on October 06, 2014, 09:54:52 PM
I didn't see iKo come in with any advantage other than that gained from diving on the merge, which as evidenced by the results of the film is the preferred method to merge in a duel.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: iKo on October 06, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
Watch the film again.

You made the reverse that determined we face head on instead of turning for acquiring the six.

The only help I need is from you, as my opponent, not breaking the agreement for the advantage...........which is the common theme from the two separate duels referenced in this thread.

Don't confuse gaming the game for every advantage with skill.


Wow are you kidding me lol, you said Duel Ladder rules.

a. after 3/9 pass at 5k anything goes
b. I hate hoing and didn't fire till you did
c. end of story you left after that and cant say i blame ya
d. I and and the DA is still here for when ever you  want to try again, it will be fun

  See a few post up to get film that started this duel with icepac to begin with
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: iKo on October 06, 2014, 09:57:41 PM
I didn't see iKo come in with any advantage other than that gained from diving on the merge, which as evidenced by the results of the film is the preferred method to merge in a duel.

Thank you and I tried to do a deck merge duel and he didn't want to so to avoid the Dive for E BS that everyone is going around and around with till ack -ack just plain said it.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: icepac on October 06, 2014, 10:05:33 PM

Thank you and I tried to do a deck merge duel and he didn't want to so to avoid the Dive for E BS that everyone is going around and around with till ack -ack just plain said it.


Watch the film.

It clearly shows you at least 1k higher than the limit agreed upon.

It also shows you being considerably faster when you passed through 5k because of your 6k starting altitude.

It shows you doing what others have accused you of.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: iKo on October 06, 2014, 10:31:20 PM
Watch the film.

It clearly shows you at least 1k higher than the limit agreed upon.

It also shows you being considerably faster when you passed through 5k because of your 6k starting altitude.

It shows you doing what others have accused you of.

Again look how close you are to my base on a duel, I had no idea if your intentions at this point and I had just taking of and really thought you where going to try and vulch me at my base lol.

My view point same film icepac, I am up for any plane any time if you feel like you where slighted in any way. its not fair to these nice folks here to have to see us go around and around on this  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365206.30.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365206.30.html)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 06, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
So your star witness is icepac?


lol...oh come on, TJ!  Don't go all crazy. 

This has nothing to do with the Skyyr fights....I did find it funny, tho'....just like I find this funny: 

Wow are you kidding me lol, you said Duel Ladder rules.

a. after 3/9 pass at 5k anything goes
b. I hate hoing and didn't fire till you did
c. end of story you left after that and cant say i blame ya
d. I and and the DA is still here for when ever you  want to try again, it will be fun

  See a few post up to get film that started this duel with icepac to begin with


Once again, prediction success.   :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 06, 2014, 11:57:17 PM
Lol please rename this thread "Post in here if your a stupid idiot moron loser"
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 07, 2014, 12:09:06 AM
Lol please rename this thread "Post in here if your a stupid idiot moron loser"

You're.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 12:11:31 AM
Lol please rename this thread "Post in here if your a stupid idiot moron loser"

 :huh 

Ahhh....well Glz...um....slight problem for you with that...



Oh nevermind...you will figure it out.  :D
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Debrody on October 07, 2014, 07:01:16 AM
Was entertaining to withness this amount of stupidity, hipocricy and bad willing in one thread.

Keep it rolling  :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 07:55:54 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 07, 2014, 08:42:13 AM
You know you're starting to unravel when you bring the grammar hammer down on a guy who speaks more languages than you do.   :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 07, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
You know you're starting to unravel when you bring the grammar hammer down on a guy who speaks more languages than you do.   :rofl

 :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on October 07, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
What? What's going on?

Did anyone wash the dirty dishes?


 :noid
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 07, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
I'm an admitted idiot moron loser. Why do you think I poke into all these threads?   Don't want the stupid train to depart without me!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: xPoisonx on October 07, 2014, 11:22:16 AM
I'm an admitted idiot moron loser. Why do you think I poke into all these threads?   Don't want the stupid train to depart without me!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w1y5u1lx7TY/UUQqy2oO4rI/AAAAAAAADD4/ffE0sYzzpgI/s1600/rage-classy-rage.jpg)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on October 07, 2014, 11:24:33 AM
I'm an admitted idiot moron loser. Why do you think I poke into all these threads?   Don't want the stupid train to depart without me!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w1y5u1lx7TY/UUQqy2oO4rI/AAAAAAAADD4/ffE0sYzzpgI/s1600/rage-classy-rage.jpg)

Glzzsqd and Poison go do the dishes.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
You know you're starting to unravel when you bring the grammar hammer down on a guy who speaks more languages than you do.   :rofl

Say something stupid, regardless of the language, and it's still stupid....it just sounds more exotic.


Did you watch the film yet?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 07, 2014, 11:56:32 AM
Glzzsqd and Poison go do the dishes.


Tickle me Elmo!!!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 07, 2014, 12:09:19 PM
Say something stupid, regardless of the language, and it's still stupid....it just sounds more exotic.


Did you watch the film yet?

So what exotic sound did you hear in your head when you read what he typed?    :noid

You're not being a very good spokesman.   You're supposed to tell me what the film will show before I watch it.   Duh..

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
So what exotic sound did you hear in your head when you read what he typed?    :noid

You're not being a very good spokesman.   You're supposed to tell me what the film will show before I watch it.   Duh..



:lol  No no no...you are thinking of the word erotic.  I said exotic....a common term for the sound of a foreign accent in most parts of the country.  I will leave it to you to find a dictionary to delve deeper into the differences between the two words.

And why would I want to tell you what you will see?  You've already prejudged what you expect to see, so view the film and tell me if you are right.  Is that so much to ask?  Once you are done type here what specific infractions were committed and where they occur in the film.  Then everyone here can view and discuss.  What fun! 

Maybe we can even get Grand Master Kappa to spell it out for me in crayon so my stoooopid self can understand it!  Then maybe a Canadian Muppet can post what a meanie-stoopid face I am and end with a nice "Cya!"*







* Notice for U.S. Citizens: 

The term "Cya!" means something completely different to a Canadian than it does to you and me.  I was quite unaware of this until recently.  So be careful using it while conversing with our frozen northern cousins.   :O

I also advise that you do not smile, wave and shout "Good bye!" when a Canadian sends one your way.   :uhoh   

News you can use!  :aok

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Debrody on October 07, 2014, 04:22:43 PM
:rofl Ahhhh Debby.  Always good for a laugh or ten.

But yes....it is always interesting to watch your squad's (and assorted roadies) mouth the usual blather.   It would be even more so if not for the displays of banal stupidity on their part!

Just Remember The Muppet Way, Kids!  Facts and such never matter.  Only how much mud can be thrown and how high up the manure can be stacked!  

 :aok

BTW....It is spelled H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y....a word every member of AoM should know, but I digress.  :rofl

I realize English is not your native tongue, but come on man!  It is the 21st Century and Google is helpful.  

That, or you could just use the Spell Check button below.  :old:  

:lol
You are disappointing me, Mr. Vaughan (if this name wasnt a lie, just like your every second word).

Let me explain this.

First of all, English is not my native language, awesome catch there. But please... started studying this in '08 and playing AH in '09, ergo over 80% of my knowledge is from this game. Pure luck that there were some kind folks out there helping me out with the lingual difficulties instead of saying "google it, son". Let me thank their patience: Perdweeb, Jonah, Sukov, Semp, T2Maw, Tundra, Devil505, pretty much the old KN.

Then, your intetentions are clean, your soul is wide open. Its great to see all the niceties you and your buddies have brought to AH, besides the mud throwing at us. All the trolling, flaming, flamebaiting, little intriques and such are lifting my soul.

Edit: one note. The AoM is full of hypocrites... well, let it be. They are all kinds of rotten evil this game can ever offer. But they have fired you from themselves for being a hypocrite... if this means something.
Ooops.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Canspec on October 07, 2014, 05:07:25 PM
:lol  No no no...you are thinking of the word erotic.  I said exotic....a common term for the sound of a foreign accent in most parts of the country.  I will leave it to you to find a dictionary to delve deeper into the differences between the two words.

And why would I want to tell you what you will see?  You've already prejudged what you expect to see, so view the film and tell me if you are right.  Is that so much to ask?  Once you are done type here what specific infractions were committed and where they occur in the film.  Then everyone here can view and discuss.  What fun!  

Maybe we can even get Grand Master Kappa to spell it out for me in crayon so my stoooopid self can understand it!  Then maybe a Canadian Muppet can post what a meanie-stoopid face I am and end with a nice "Cya!"*

* Notice for U.S. Citizens:  

The term "Cya!" means something completely different to a Canadian than it does to you and me.  I was quite unaware of this until recently.  So be careful using it while conversing with our frozen northern cousins.   :O

I also advise that you do not smile, wave and shout "Good bye!" when a Canadian sends one your way.   :uhoh  

News you can use!  :aok



So this is what this is all really about.....Pepprr.........dont say Canadian Muppet......say what you mean, you are looking for a response from Pepprr.......its strange, but now I understand...... :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 07, 2014, 05:21:22 PM
this thread in itself has become its own soap opera...  lol this rocks....  I think Canspec might be on to something......  :noid
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: kappa on October 07, 2014, 05:51:23 PM
Maybe we can even get Grand Master Kappa to spell it out for me in crayon so my stoooopid self can understand it!


I'll try but have my doubts..

YOU said:


Exactly.  The person who made the statement did so in such a way as to imply that 'other factors' were in play.  One could reason that these factors could be the result of better flying skill, etc......but other, less flattering conclusions can be made as well.


I said:

Wait, what?  You mean being a better cartoon pilot will net you 40mph faster on a deck merge?

I said:

I'm just awaiting the explanation on cartoon plane skills and NOT "less flattering conclusions" net 40mph faster on a deck merge.. lmao

You then default drama queen with extra dribble side sauce about supposed accusations and me not being manly enough.. I'm just awaiting an answer so not to think "less flattering conclusions"..  Sorry, I don't have pictures available atm..  Should I color more of the text instead?
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 07, 2014, 06:14:08 PM
:lol  No no no...you are thinking of the word erotic.  I said exotic....a common term for the sound of a foreign accent in most parts of the country.  I will leave it to you to find a dictionary to delve deeper into the differences between the two words.

And why would I want to tell you what you will see?  You've already prejudged what you expect to see, so view the film and tell me if you are right.  Is that so much to ask?  Once you are done type here what specific infractions were committed and where they occur in the film.  Then everyone here can view and discuss.  What fun!  

Maybe we can even get Grand Master Kappa to spell it out for me in crayon so my stoooopid self can understand it!  Then maybe a Canadian Muppet can post what a meanie-stoopid face I am and end with a nice "Cya!"*

No, I'm thinking of exotic.  I'm just wondering what exotic voices you're hearing in your head when you read stuff off the internet.   lol

I would think as the spokesman for The Damned (2) you'd want to clearly lay out your case and have the video back all that up.  To this point, all you've done is hear exotic accents in your head and noid out thinking everyone is calling your boss a haxxor.  

this thread in itself has become its own soap opera...  lol this rocks....  I think Canspec might be on to something......  :noid

Some of the thread came from Fulcrum's paranoid PM's to me about shading which turned into him trying to bait me into saying Skyyr cheats.  The rest of it came from him stalking Pepprr on our boards.  

So as you can see, it's all our fault.   :)    
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 07, 2014, 06:18:23 PM
:lol  No no no...you are thinking of the word erotic.  I said exotic....a common term for the sound of a foreign accent in most parts of the country.  I will leave it to you to find a dictionary to delve deeper into the differences between the two words.

And why would I want to tell you what you will see?  You've already prejudged what you expect to see, so view the film and tell me if you are right.  Is that so much to ask?  Once you are done type here what specific infractions were committed and where they occur in the film.  Then everyone here can view and discuss.  What fun! 

Maybe we can even get Grand Master Kappa to spell it out for me in crayon so my stoooopid self can understand it!  Then maybe a Canadian Muppet can post what a meanie-stoopid face I am and end with a nice "Cya!"*







* Notice for U.S. Citizens: 

The term "Cya!" means something completely different to a Canadian than it does to you and me.  I was quite unaware of this until recently.  So be careful using it while conversing with our frozen northern cousins.   :O

I also advise that you do not smile, wave and shout "Good bye!" when a Canadian sends one your way.   :uhoh   

News you can use!  :aok




 :headscratch:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 07, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
No, I'm thinking of exotic.  I'm just wondering what exotic voices you're hearing in your head when you read stuff off the internet.   lol

I would think as the spokesman for The Damned (2) you'd want to clearly lay out your case and have the video back all that up.  To this point, all you've done is hear exotic accents in your head and noid out thinking everyone is calling your boss a haxxor.  

Some of the thread came from Fulcrum's paranoid PM's to me about shading which turned into him trying to bait me into saying Skyyr cheats.  The rest of it came from him stalking Pepprr on our boards.  

So as you can see, it's all our fault.   :)    


 oh you meanie Muppets!!!!!!!  I kind of figured he had a real bad case of butthurt after being tossed out... this stalking thing well yeah that's just creepy  :uhoh   kind of comical the way he humps his own squads ankle  :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: SkyRock on October 07, 2014, 07:27:02 PM
I'll try but have my doubts..

YOU said:

I said:

I said:

You then default drama queen with extra dribble side sauce about supposed accusations and me not being manly enough.. I'm just awaiting an answer so not to think "less flattering conclusions"..  Sorry, I don't have pictures available atm..  Should I color more of the text instead?
:rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: xPoisonx on October 07, 2014, 07:55:13 PM
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Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 07, 2014, 07:57:38 PM
Then maybe a Canadian Muppet can post what a meanie-stoopid face I am and end with a nice "Cya!"*
* Notice for U.S. Citizens:  

The term "Cya!" means something completely different to a Canadian than it does to you and me.  I was quite unaware of this until recently.  So be careful using it while conversing with our frozen northern cousins.   :O

I also advise that you do not smile, wave and shout "Good bye!" when a Canadian sends one your way.   :uhoh  

News you can use!  :aok



Since you seem to be needing my response to this...
Yes, my Cya to YOU means something completely different than see you later.   :aok
I don't understand the rest of your dribble.  

...I am the meaniest of the mean I guess...  :rolleyes:

CYA!!!    :D

*EDIT: crap, I forgot to underline..  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
So this is what this is all really about.....Pepprr.........dont say Canadian Muppet......say what you mean, you are looking for a response from Pepprr.......its strange, but now I understand...... :old:

Not really.  I admit its fun to poke back at her now that she's thrown herself into the Squad Rivaly mix, but I'm not looking for a reaction from her...remember what I said about being "soooo predictable"? 

Well....

I'll try but have my doubts..

YOU said:

I said:

I said:

You then default drama queen with extra dribble side sauce about supposed accusations and me not being manly enough.. I'm just awaiting an answer so not to think "less flattering conclusions"..  Sorry, I don't have pictures available atm..  Should I color more of the text instead?

Like clockwork.  :lol

Excellent sir!  So you are unequivocally stating "Skyyr cheated." 

So should I assume you are specifically referring to this Ki43 duel Junky keeps going on about, or are you making a broader statement about all the matches he's had i.e. "Skyyr cheats to win 1v1s and Junky was right to state he should have *'s next to each of his wins.". 

Remember, use crayon please.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 07, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
So this is what this is all really about.....Pepprr.........dont say Canadian Muppet......say what you mean, you are looking for a response from Pepprr.......its strange, but now I understand...... :old:
That's what the thread started as. He got a proxy on her and went off the rails much like he's done to her numerous times via PMs and such and I guess some how tried to twist this around to involve the self proclaimed  Aces of Aces. Now we get post after post of his uncomfortably odd vicarious living through his "friends"  accompanied with limp wristed Muppet bashing. ( we are a fragile bunch you know) The bottom line is this creep has serious issues with this Pepprr fixation and is probably a few steps from a involuntary mental health commitment. She's more than capable of taking care of herself so no sleep should be lost but this oddball should probably be reeled in.  


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Still waiting on that shades list Bill.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 08:27:31 PM
Slash...I can't prove it was you who sent them and you know it.  That's the whole reason why accounts like that are made, yes?  But it had all the marks it was you.

As for the Pepprr stuff...you guys have been stating that about me for so bloody long I figured I might as well use it.  :lol



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Slash27 on October 07, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
And there we have it. Because I've always had trouble expressing my feelings as "Slash" I created a shade to stick it to you. stfu up already, change your name for the 38th time and move on. Perhaps this time try not posting whatever pops in to that troubled little noggin of yours and try enjoying the game. Or just move on. It's so pathetic at this point it's making me uncomfortable when you post. It's just weird and embarrassing to witness your perpetual meltdowns.

And by the way, I wouldn't push that angle about Pepprr. There's a whole lot of evidence that won't really be in your favor.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 07, 2014, 08:55:57 PM
Since you seem to be needing my response to this...
Yes, my Cya to YOU means something completely different than see you later.   :aok
I don't understand the rest of your dribble.  

...I am the meaniest of the mean I guess...  :rolleyes:

CYA!!!    :D

*EDIT: crap, I forgot to underline..  :rolleyes:

I can vouch for this. Pepprr is a meanie.  She salutes me all the time.   Mean I say! :old:  It is an outrage!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 07, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
Not really.  I admit its fun to poke back at her now that she's thrown herself into the Squad Rivaly mix, but I'm not looking for a reaction from her...remember what I said about being "soooo predictable"? 

Well....

Like clockwork.  :lol

Excellent sir!  So you are unequivocally stating "Skyyr cheated." 

So should I assume you are specifically referring to this Ki43 duel Junky keeps going on about, or are you making a broader statement about all the matches he's had i.e. "Skyyr cheats to win 1v1s and Junky was right to state he should have *'s next to each of his wins.". 

Remember, use crayon please.



Fully, if you "don't want drama" or the stalker perception....just leave her alone already. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2014, 09:35:43 PM
I can vouch for this. Pepprr is a meanie.  She salutes me all the time.   Mean I say! :old:  It is an outrage!

Never trust a girl that flies a pink Spitfire.  The funny thing is, Peppr is far more of an aggressive pilot than anyone in Baghdad Fulcrum's squadron. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 07, 2014, 09:42:34 PM
CUT MOTOR!!!!!!!!!   NEVER TURN!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Nathan60 on October 07, 2014, 10:02:34 PM
Never trust a girl that flies a pink Spitfire.  The funny thing is, Peppr is far more of an aggressive pilot than anyone in Baghdad Fulcrum's squadron. 

ack-ack
LOL I second this she is aggressive as hell, makes good bait and she is not afraid to come down and help someone out when the numbers are going the wrong way. More people should play like that.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 07, 2014, 10:10:39 PM
Never trust a girl that flies a pink Spitfire.  The funny thing is, Peppr is far more of an aggressive pilot than anyone in Baghdad Fulcrum's squadron. 

ack-ack

Funniest nickname ever. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Gman on October 07, 2014, 10:26:48 PM
Quote
The bottom line is this creep has serious issues with this Pepprr fixation and is probably a few steps from a involuntary mental health commitment. She's more than capable of taking care of herself so no sleep should be lost but this oddball should probably be reeled in.  

Agree with this.

Having seen some of the screen shots of PMs that Fulcrum has sent Pepprr in recent history, I find it extremely strange that he would start a thread bringing attention to this, when many of said PMs are obviously and plainly using language against the terms of service of his AH account, as well as the rules of the game and the bbs - Constant personal insults over cartoon deaths, and other such nonsense.  

One would think that the very last thing Ful-storer would want is HTC to start going through the logs and isolating all the PMs he's sent Peppr over the last couple of years, as I hear War Thunder isn't all that much fun.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 07, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
Come on Zerstorer  baby, forget about that Peppr girl, you know ill be your one and only lover <3 <3<3  xxxooo   *kissy kissy*

LETS RUN AWAY AND MAKE US ACOUPLE OF BABIES Zerstorer!!!!
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Latrobe on October 07, 2014, 10:48:07 PM
Glzz are you cheating on me!!???  :( :cry
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 07, 2014, 10:57:19 PM
Glzz are you cheating on me!!???  :( :cry

Your ankles are all boney and hairy. Zestorers are nice and thick plus he shaves em. So HAWT :O :x
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Canspec on October 07, 2014, 10:57:56 PM
Come on Zerstorer  baby, forget about that Peppr girl, you know ill be your one and only lover <3 <3<3  xxxooo   *kissy kissy*

LETS RUN AWAY AND MAKE US ACOUPLE OF BABIES Zerstorer!!!!

 :O....yuk..... :old:
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 11:00:55 PM
Fully, if you "don't want drama" or the stalker perception....just leave her alone already. 

I gave up on the "no drama" stuff a while back.  As for the rest, that's been taken care of by others so...too late.

BTW - I've never said she's a meanie.

And there we have it. Because I've always had trouble expressing my feelings as "Slash" I created a shade to stick it to you. stfu up already, change your name for the 38th time and move on. Perhaps this time try not posting whatever pops in to that troubled little noggin of yours and try enjoying the game. Or just move on. It's so pathetic at this point it's making me uncomfortable when you post. It's just weird and embarrassing to witness your perpetual meltdowns.

And by the way, I wouldn't push that angle about Pepprr. There's a whole lot of evidence that won't really be in your favor.


No, but there are other reasons you might have done it.  You or the other person who likely did so.  But whatever dude..it's done.  If it wasn't you, I apologize for stating such.

As for the rest...

Your constant posting of candy van pictures and the rest every time I post something about anything you disagree with makes me uncomfortable. So just keep it to the game smack talk / chest-thumping and everyone will be happy.  And before you start with "But you started it with this thread and talking about Pepprr!"......Pepprr inserted herself in this squad purse fight by posting what essentially is "smack".  I can link the YouTube video if you'd like and her post on your public forum.  Or are you saying she's different because she's a girl?  I've not posted anything remotely personal or offensive about Pepprr in this thread...I simply said I used her to get a rise out of the rest of you....and I admit I did.  I treated her like I would treat any other member of your squad when talking smack. I did not and would not say anything other than returning smack talk.

Want to make fun of my flying or call me timid, go for it.  Say I ankle hump Skyyr, no problem.  But going nuclear every time the Pink spit pilot is brought up is a bit much....and doing a disservice to both of us.  She's a big girl and can handle herself, as was stated by others....so let her do so and for Christ sake's let the stalker stuff go.  Do that, and I'll let the stuff about the anonymous PMs and other garbage go...it will no longer be brought up.  

Can we at least agree on that?  

...Baghdad Fulcrum's...

 :lol I actually like that name.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 07, 2014, 11:03:10 PM
Your ankles are all boney and hairy. Zestorers are nice and thick plus he shaves em. So HAWT :O :x

*urp*

A little throw-up just came up in the back of my throat.

I don't shave my legs.  They are very hairy.  Please Glzz...go for Latrobe. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Latrobe on October 07, 2014, 11:03:11 PM
Your ankles are all boney and hairy. Zestorers are nice and thick plus he shaves em. So HAWT :O :x

Hairy means manly.  :D
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 07, 2014, 11:05:48 PM
His Gag reflex is why I love him so much :D
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 07, 2014, 11:50:52 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on October 07, 2014, 11:56:33 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 12:13:52 AM
His Gag reflex is why I love him so much :D

 (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick016.gif)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 01:11:35 AM
I gave up on the "no drama" stuff a while back.  As for the rest, that's been taken care of by others so...too late.

 :rofl

And before you start with "But you started it with this thread and talking about Pepprr!"......Pepprr inserted herself in this squad purse fight by posting what essentially is "smack".  I can link the YouTube video if you'd like and her post on your public forum.  Or are you saying she's different because she's a girl?  I've not posted anything remotely personal or offensive about Pepprr in this thread...I simply said I used her to get a rise out of the rest of you....and I admit I did.  I treated her like I would treat any other member of your squad when talking smack. I did not and would not say anything other than returning smack talk.

Want to make fun of my flying or call me timid, go for it.  Say I ankle hump Skyyr, no problem.  But going nuclear every time the Pink spit pilot is brought up is a bit much....and doing a disservice to both of us.  She's a big girl and can handle herself, as was stated by others....so let her do so and for Christ sake's let the stalker stuff go.  Do that, and I'll let the stuff about the anonymous PMs and other garbage go...it will no longer be brought up.  

Can we at least agree on that?  


After a year of crapping on me every time a muppet said or did something that "annoyed" you (which is everything they said), YES!...I think I have a right to talk a little smack about you.  
All that I said on AOM public forum about you was pale in comparison to it. I did make a video, not of you, I'm assuming you are talking about the "she said" one, it is in my sig if anyone
would like to see it...all in fun..  :)  I thought poking fun was ok after I heard what was posted about me on your forum.  

Other than that, I posted a screen shot of you calling me names on 200 after getting a proxie on me.  lol  Thought it was good for a laugh and I enjoyed the fact that it was on 200 instead
of pming me like you usually do. Way to finally grab some balls.   :lol
 
ALL I have ever asked from you is to leave me alone. It seems you can't do that, so yes, if you can run your mouth at 1000mph then don't complain when I open mine.  :aok



 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 08, 2014, 01:33:01 AM
Classic Walleye!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 05:30:49 AM
:rofl

After a year of crapping on me every time a muppet said or did something that "annoyed" you (which is everything they said), YES!...I think I have a right to talk a little smack about you.  
All that I said on AOM public forum about you was pale in comparison to it. I did make a video, not of you, I'm assuming you are talking about the "she said" one, it is in my sig if anyone
would like to see it...all in fun..  :)  I thought poking fun was ok after I heard what was posted about me on your forum.  

Other than that, I posted a screen shot of you calling me names on 200 after getting a proxie on me.  lol  Thought it was good for a laugh and I enjoyed the fact that it was on 200 instead
of pming me like you usually do. Way to finally grab some balls.   :lol
 
ALL I have ever asked from you is to leave me alone. It seems you can't do that, so yes, if you can run your mouth at 1000mph then don't complain when I open mine.  :aok



 

Whose complaining? You are more than welcome to do so....I have no problem with that at all.

I originally asked you via PM to have your buds tone it down when I was harassed out of recognition of our former friendship. And yes, it took me a while to realize that was and is a mistake. No problem posting if I call you something mean in public making fun of your flying...go for it! Feel free to return shots but keep it to the game (which you have btw..thanks..my references were to Slash).

And yes, I was referring to the video. I didnt say it was of me but it is directed towards a member of my squad so the same appiles to you that you just said to me i.e. if you start shooting your mouth off, dont be surprised when you are part of a response. It is all in fun....we keep it to the game.... nothing else... I told you no one in my squad has made any posts about you personally that are not game related...you were misinformed.

Nice vulches and picks, by the way!  Im sure you will enjoy the response when it comes..... :lol  :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 07:33:43 AM
Classic Walleye!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok

Hey Junky....did you look at those films I posted yet? 

I'm curious to get your take on the whole "put a * by all the wins" question you brought up.  ;) :lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 08:57:11 AM
Saw the video, 5 kills, didn't show who it really was, doesn't AH film viewer show the log in recordings, wishlist please?

Anyways, I digress, probably is Skyyr, since it only took 5 months for you to record 5 kills. That's so cute! :: headpat ::

It's amazing to me that, by now, you haven't figured out that we record everything in game, both for analytical and LuL purposes (your should have a rough estimate of how many times you have died to us vs how many times you have killed us)
, given this: Couldn't you come up with something a little better than 5 kills (4 in furballs, but kills nonetheless).

I mean this isn't Lowrider quality(funny, but he kinda set himself up for that). I was expecting more! As a film maker myself, I wanted more passion! :cool: More cowbell!

Remember what you said, it's all in good fun. :)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 08, 2014, 09:02:29 AM
Check out pepprrs nice vid of her elememating skyyr repedidly. Great video and music. A 100% must see!!


Ohh yeah kruel considering how skyyr never post any films where he dies and only shows kills where he clearly has advantage but won't show the fights in an earlier sortie where he gets pwned...  Thats cool though, we can make the same videos to stroke our 4 inch propellers and look cool on the internet.



I can't spell. I read numbers everyday. Like a matrix. It messes with my grammar and writing skills. Luckily I don't get paid to be a writer.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 09:09:11 AM
Check out pepprrs nice vid of her elememating skyyr repedidly. Great video and music. A 100% must see!!




Awww come on Violator, you guys are reaching here ::elbow nudge:: :rofl :) if this is must see TV, I never want to hear you complain about getting "picked" or vulched again, on the contrary, you should be handing out salutes when it happens to you.

Edit: it's eliminating and repeatedly
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
And yes, it took me a while to realize that was and is a mistake.

Just wow Fulcrum.  You have annoyed me for the last YEAR via pm on the forum/game and through email.  I would say that was more
than a while...  :rolleyes:  You know what you said, I know what you said, and the muppets have seen a lot of the pm's you have sent.  
Changing your name to pm me numerous times in game and on the forum...hoplite, gladius, warblade, arbiter, achilles,  katana(diakatana)
...I'm sure I missed some..  :headscratch:.


if you start shooting your mouth off, dont be surprised when you are part of a response. It is all in fun....we keep it to the game.... nothing else... I told you no one in my squad has made any posts about you personally that are not game related...you were misinformed.

Yes, I am the type of person that runs my mouth on the forum and 200 ALL the time! ...lol   :rolleyes:  I guess that will have to change a bit...I have just finally had enough of you.  
And, nothing you say to anyone is "all in fun".  You are filled with a lot of hate my crazy little enemy.   :D

 (http://i.imgur.com/2BgRnqE.jpg)


The only reason I made the vid in the first place is because... if you guys can post a pic of me on your forums just to tear me apart, I should be
able to poke a little fun too...I never claimed to be anything special.  I have more pics on the BB here too if you want to take more shots at me.

 :salute Kruel, I have no beef with you sir, looking forward to it...  :D

Classic Walleye!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok

LMAO...I <3 Walleye   :rofl


 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 09:50:32 AM

Ohh yeah kruel considering how skyyr never post any films where he dies and only shows kills where he clearly has advantage but won't show the fights in an earlier sortie where he gets pwned...  Thats cool though, we can make the same videos to stroke our 4 inch propellers and look cool on the internet.



We all die, but this is what we mean by hypocrisy, Peppr's video doesnt show her dying (and she has...a lot)...but thats ok? Skyyrs duel videos show his deaths btw.

And if you mean MA deaths/kills why spend the time saving, editing, encoding and uploading a video of you dying unless something cool/weird happened.


Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 08, 2014, 09:57:12 AM
I'm just saying, if skyyr can bully people with his retarded videos, only showing him as the victor but never giving credit to anyone else, soley for use as," I shot you down one time and here is the video you worthless noon" than people can simply do the same thing in their videos when they shoot him down. Its the same exact thing he has been doing to a lot of players in this game. Bout time he's getting some of his own beef.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 10:01:56 AM
Just wow Fulcrum.  You have annoyed me for the last YEAR via pm on the forum/game and through email.  I would say that was more
than a while...  :rolleyes:  You know what you said, I know what you said, and the muppets have seen a lot of the pm's you have sent.  
Changing your name to pm me numerous times in game and on the forum...hoplite, gladius, warblade, arbiter, achilles,  katana(diakatana)
...I'm sure I missed some..  :headscratch:.

Yes, I am the type of person that runs my mouth on the forum and 200 ALL the time! ...lol   :rolleyes:  I guess that will have to change a bit...I have just finally had enough of you.  
And, nothing you say to anyone is "all in fun".  You are filled with a lot of hate my crazy little enemy.   :D

 (http://i.imgur.com/2BgRnqE.jpg)


The only reason I made the vid in the first place is because... if you guys can post a pic of me on your forums just to tear me apart, I should be
able to poke a little fun too...I never claimed to be anything special.  I have more pics on the BB here too if you want to take more shots at me.

 :salute Kruel, I have no beef with you sir, looking forward to it...  :D

LMAO...I <3 Walleye   :rofl


 

You have screen shots of this harassment? Send em to me. All of it if you could. If there's any foul play (outside the normal game stuff) I will be the first to address it.

Also no picture of you was posted.on our forum, not sure where this is coming from, what source did you get this info from? Since we don't have a public forum.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: glzsqd on October 08, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
Intel leakage?     I like leakage if you know what I mean ;)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
We all die, but this is what we mean by hypocrisy, Peppr's video doesnt show her dying (and she has...a lot)...but thats ok? Skyyrs duel videos show his deaths btw.

And if you mean MA deaths/kills why spend the time saving, editing, encoding and uploading a video of you dying unless something cool/weird happened.


Not hypocrisy at all.  I know I picked him three times in a row coming off the field.  I know the other fights were 1v1 and he lost.  I know that he has killed me also.  
I never claimed anything to the contrary. I know I die a LOT because of the way I fly, BUT...I am here to have fun and enjoy myself, I ENJOY getting into the middle of
the cons and try to kill my way out...or at least see how long it takes 4 or 5 to kill me...lol  

The only reason I saved the one film is because I killed him three times in one sortie...someone told me to save it..lol  I record
every flight but don't save them, I automatically hit cancel when I end sortie...habit.  Skyyr's recent films prompted me to poke a little fun...that is all.   :)

And I am sorry, I am not a computer geek or a film editor.  All I did was stick them together and add some music.  I had to cut out a bit of his running (extending)
in the last fight or second last fight because it was too long for the music.   :aok

 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
I'm just saying, if skyyr can bully people with his retarded videos, only showing him as the victor but never giving credit to anyone else, soley for use as," I shot you down one time and here is the video you worthless noon" than people can simply do the same thing in their videos when they shoot him down. Its the same exact thing he has been doing to a lot of players in this game. Bout time he's getting some of his own beef.

Bully? How can someone so skill-less be a bully? It's really hasn't been many players outside of AoM.


Most of the videos are directed at people who complain, at people who think they way they fly should be the way we should fly. Anything outside the norm to them is wrong and never works, yet here is a video of them dying to it.

Even the engine cutting thing which is/was ridiculed for so long, we have more and more film of people doing it (even some in your squad)

Most of it would probably go away if people just accepted the fact that if something works for someone, the more power to them.

Also if accepted that, everyone HOs, "picks", "gangs", vulches and quits whining about it. (Satan will have a Christmas party before this one, so not holding my breath.)

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
You have screen shots of this harassment? Send em to me. All of it if you could. If there's any foul play (outside the normal game stuff) I will be the first to address it.

Also no picture of you was posted.on our forum, not sure where this is coming from, what source did you get this info from? Since we don't have a public forum.

Lots of screen shots, yes.  If you don't know what kind of people you fly with then that is your problem.  I will not post/send screen shots, the only ones to have seen them
are my squaddies because I am a nice person...but I have finally had enough.  All I ask is that he leaves me alone from now on...not much to ask.   :aok  
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 10:26:09 AM
Lots of screen shots, yes.  If you don't know what kind of people you fly with then that is your problem.  I will not post/send screen shots, the only ones to have seen them
are my squaddies because I am a nice person...but I have finally had enough.  All I ask is that he leaves me alone from now on...not much to ask.   :aok  

I know what kind of people I fly with, but if you are going to accuse someone of something publicly you need to have some proof, how do I know your aren't making this up to make yourself the victim? Taking your word for it? That's why I am asking for proof, if not your statements are just empty.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 10:30:35 AM
Send it to me privately, not asking you to post them out there if you dont want to.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 10:53:08 AM

Whatever, I am not out on a witch hunt like he is.  I know what he has said and so does he...most of my squaddies have seen a lot of the crap too
so they know, and they are who matter.

I didn't accuse someone publicly until he brought it up.  If he is going to run his mouth all the time then try to make me look like the villain then yes,
I will defend myself.  All I posted publicly is what he posted on 200 about me....and I said I am glad that he will say things like that to me on 200 now
instead of via pm etc..show everyone who he really is. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 10:55:08 AM
Not hypocrisy at all.  I know I picked him three times in a row coming off the field.  I know the other fights were 1v1 and he lost.  I know that he has killed me also.  
I never claimed anything to the contrary. I know I die a LOT because of the way I fly, BUT...I am here to have fun and enjoy myself, I ENJOY getting into the middle of
the cons and try to kill my way out...or at least see how long it takes 4 or 5 to kill me...lol  

The only reason I saved the one film is because I killed him three times in one sortie...someone told me to save it..lol  I record
every flight but don't save them, I automatically hit cancel when I end sortie...habit.  Skyyr's recent films prompted me to poke a little fun...that is all.   :)

And I am sorry, I am not a computer geek or a film editor.  All I did was stick them together and add some music.  I had to cut out a bit of his running (extending)
in the last fight or second last fight because it was too long for the music.   :aok

 

There were 5 kills total, the last one was a shortened version of a 1v1 Spit turn fighting a TA after diving on him, in which he does extend (and turns back into you ergo not running home), from May (lol?) it's stupid to tell someone in a TA to hold  a sustained turn fight vs a Spit.

The rest of the kills were furball kills, meh.

My point is if you have fun flying your way great, we have met nothing but disdain for flying our way...hence the videos. We can have discussions about why we think something works or doesn't, but when the response is "Hurrr, hurrr, it just doesnt you suck hurrr. Hurrr" well then you get a video showing you it does.(ie engine cutting to hammerhead more quickly and controllably than with idle throttle. If it works for us, more power to us no? If we ENJOY doing it, why not right? Just like you Enjoy being in a furball, we all have our definition of fun, and none is wrong because they all subjective.




Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
Whatever, I am not out on a witch hunt like he is.  I know what he has said and so does he...most of my squaddies have seen a lot of the crap too
so they know, and they are who matter.

I didn't accuse someone publicly until he brought it up.  If he is going to run his mouth all the time then try to make me look like the villain then yes,
I will defend myself.  All I posted publicly is what he posted on 200 about me....and I said I am glad that he will say things like that to me on 200 now
instead of via pm etc..show everyone who he really is. 


So, I will just take your word for it. You are absolutely right, maybe I'll post the nasty PMs you sent me..
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 11:06:31 AM

I don't really care how you fly, what you fly or anything else.  Does not matter to me one little bit.  I just don't believe that "score" makes
anyone good.  You are quite good, I have seen you fly.  In fact, I think you are the best out of your squad, although "score" does not reflect that.   :)


So, I will just take your word for it. You are absolutely right, maybe I'll post the nasty PMs you sent me..

lol...well since I have never pm'd you ...go for it.   
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Triton28 on October 08, 2014, 11:19:35 AM
The best is when he PM's Pepprr, you PM him asking wtf he's PM'ing someone he doesn't like and he denies PM'ing her.   :rofl
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 11:22:14 AM
I don't really care how you fly, what you fly or anything else.  Does not matter to me one little bit.  I just don't believe that "score" makes
anyone good.  You are quite good, I have seen you fly.  In fact, I think you are the best out of your squad, although "score" does not reflect that.   :)

lol...well since I have never pm'd you ...go for it.   


A lot of people seem to care though,  And trust me when I say that I'm not the best in my squad heh.

That's my point in regards to your faux PMs to me, I have no proof, I'm actually trying to be objective, if lines were crossed than I don't have a problem addressing them publicly or otherwise. Fulcrum knows that, show me proof...otherwise it's just talk.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 08, 2014, 11:22:26 AM
I'm gonna have to be on peppers side here by saying that fulcrum sparked this tango with this thread. And he has insisted on doing his best to publically humiliate anyone who intervenes with the topic of this thread to their defense. A thread which ultimately attacks multiple players in the community. One should surely expect backfire with such a thread. I have seen these post and PMs pepprr is referring to. She wouldn't need to make up such nonsense if this wasn't true, and there is little defense fulcrum or any damned member can say that would discredit what has been said to her.

And yes, skyyr is nothing but a bully. He post videos of fights in the MA, let's say lazers fights for example, and claims his greatness, yet didn't show him dying the other 5-6 times to lazer. He did the same with vids about me and other non Muppet members in the MA. So he disgraces and disrespects other pilots in the game to make himself look "good" on the internet. Pepprrs video was a fine example of the type films skyyr makes so I'm glad its out there for everyone to see he gets killed by a girl. Skyyr has no class, respect, or dignity, so isn't it funny to see how we can make videos too of him getting owned and saying haha.

I think it is hilarious
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: GhostCDB on October 08, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
None of my threads get 20 pages  :(
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Someguy63 on October 08, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
None of my threads get 20 pages  :(

20% comedy
80% BS

You're on your way to becoming a star. :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 11:38:28 AM
A lot of people seem to care though,  And trust me when I say that I'm not the best in my squad heh.

That's my point in regards to your faux PMs to me, I have no proof, I'm actually trying to be objective, if lines were crossed than I don't have a problem addressing them publicly or otherwise. Fulcrum knows that, show me proof...otherwise it's just talk.



It's just talk then Kruel, that is fine with me.  :)
I am not out to get anyone, just want him to leave me alone, that is all I've asked from him.  Publicly on the forum or 200 about the game is fine...I can take the shots
but I WILL give them back as well.  :aok 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 08, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
I gave up on the "no drama" stuff a while back.  As for the rest, that's been taken care of by others so...too late.

BTW - I've never said she's a meanie.

She did.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 08, 2014, 11:48:12 AM
You have screen shots of this harassment? Send em to me. All of it if you could. If there's any foul play (outside the normal game stuff) I will be the first to address it.

Also no picture of you was posted.on our forum, not sure where this is coming from, what source did you get this info from? Since we don't have a public forum.

No picture.  Just a link.   The comments by a couple people, including Mr. Youtube, were mocking in their tone and uncalled for.   I also received a screenshot of it from a current member of a The Damned (2) because I couldn't get it before I left.

You know what was said.   Perhaps not a big deal in the grand scheme, but enough to show the pattern of contempt by some in the squad...   "They were just joking."  That's probably the ejection handle.   In any event, it is a game.  Hatchets should be buried, preferably not in anyone's virtual forehead.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 11:54:44 AM
Whatever, I am not out on a witch hunt like he is.  I know what he has said and so does he...most of my squaddies have seen a lot of the crap too
so they know, and they are who matter.

Pepprr:

I've never tried to make you out as a villain and am not doing so now.  I also do not hate you or anyone in this game, and I am not on a witch hunt.  

But I'm not a villain either. Don't get me wrong....I'm not claiming sainthood. Our friendship didn't end well, and this was largely my fault and I've apologized for what was said and done then, as have you. I've tried since to keep any interactions relatively sedate and game related as much as possible. But like I said, I'm no saint....I can and do talk smack on occasion, but acknowledge I've slid outside the bounds at times.  I offer my apologies for those times.

If that isn't good enough, then it is what it is.

As for the rest....

I'm gonna have to be on peppers side here by saying that fulcrum sparked this tango with this thread. And he has insisted on doing his best to publically humiliate anyone who intervenes with the topic of this thread to their defense. A thread which ultimately attacks multiple players in the community. One should surely expect backfire with such a thread.

Did I spark this tango? Yep. Absolutely and purposefully.    

Did I publicly humiliate people who intervene to their defense? I'm sorry, but how did I do that?   By asking them to validate their claims that Skyrr cheats?  By asking them to review a few films and tell me where he cheated?  By responding to hearsay and innuendo? Oh please. Had the positions been reversed you are telling me certain members of your squad wouldn't have called people out? Do you really want to take that postion, knowing how easy it would be to refute it?

That's why we throw the hypocrisy word out so much:  It's OK if you do it, but not if we do.  It's OK to take cracks at how we play the game, but not vice versa.  

And yes, skyyr is nothing but a bully. He post videos of fights in the MA, let's say lazers fights for example, and claims his greatness, yet didn't show him dying the other 5-6 times to lazer. He did the same with vids about me and other non Muppet members in the MA. So he disgraces and disrespects other pilots in the game to make himself look "good" on the internet. Pepprrs video was a fine example of the type films skyyr makes so I'm glad its out there for everyone to see he gets killed by a girl. Skyyr has no class, respect, or dignity, so isn't it funny to see how we can make videos too of him getting owned and saying haha.

Skyyr is Skyyr.  He's no worse than Kappa, Grizz or other players of a similar ilk who all do the samn damn things to varying degrees.  YOU do similar things on 200, Violator.  How many times have I seen you complain publicly about being ganged or it "taking 5 of you to bring me down" on 200?  You think that's different?  Not in any way when you boil it down to the bare metal:  Everyone downplays their losses, lapses in SA, and other failures at one point or another.  Anyone who says otherwise isn't being honest.

I think it is hilarious

Oh yes...I completely agree, but for different reasons.   :lol


Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Publicly on the forum or 200 about the game is fine...I can take the shots but I WILL give them back as well.  :aok 

I have ZERO issues with this.  Give it your best shot. 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 12:11:54 PM
No picture.  Just a link.   The comments by a couple people, including Mr. Youtube, were mocking in their tone and uncalled for.   I also received a screenshot of it from a current member of a The Damned (2) because I couldn't get it before I left.

I'm not sure what you are referring too.  Are you saying I posted comments on one of Pepprr's videos?  If so, you are very much mistaken.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 12:13:27 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Aspen on October 08, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
This thread is creepy  :huh
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 12:25:15 PM
Our friendship didn't end well, and this was largely my fault and I've apologized for what was said and done then, as have you. 

Largely your fault?   :rofl
I have not apologized for anything and I won't.  You have a few times but seem to have a change of heart the next day. So an
apology now is accepted but not taken too seriously.  :aok

Forgive and forget ... sure!  I am nice like that. :)
You can be my in game rival all you like, don`t care...
just keep all your rantings public from now on please, all I`ve ever asked. :aok
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 12:40:24 PM
Ah, the source appears, yet if these events took place, are they in a public forum? Yet again the question remains, screenshots please?


Consider your source Pepprr,  Vraciu is to us what Fulcrum is to you  except we record everything. Vraciu so embraced talking trash about everyone that we had to tell him to calm down. He relished taking about you specifically, and I believe one of last incidents that led to his removal from our squad was when you landed some kills and he just attacked you out of the blue and unprovoked. Once he was removed like a scorned ex girlfriend he proceeded to turn his unfiltered wrath towards us. To save face he apologized and proceeded to try and divulge as many "secrets" (lol) of us that he could. So did Fulcrum insult you in public? Or was this about a rumor you heard from someone who is emotionally unstable (this I have proof of)

Vraciu, I have some conversations you had with Fess recorded, these are at best hilarious, at worst sad and completely bizarre, yet for all the mudslinging you are trying to do, we have never made these public..talk about uncalled for.

I have no problem with Vraciu.  He and I got off on the wrong foot yes, we called each other a few bad names.  The circumstances around that were all leading back to fulcrum dueling bear that night.  He apologized on 200 and in pm for what was said and so did I.  He has also apologized further and since has not said anything else to me to make me question that apology, I have no problem with him.  I have not known him to outright lie or be emotionally unstable like others have, but I don`t know him that well either...I base my opinion on what I know of him.   :)

 :salute


Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 08, 2014, 12:47:21 PM
Pepprr:

I've never tried to make you out as a villain and am not doing so now.  I also do not hate you or anyone in this game, and I am not on a witch hunt.  

But I'm not a villain either. Don't get me wrong....I'm not claiming sainthood. Our friendship didn't end well, and this was largely my fault and I've apologized for what was said and done then, as have you. I've tried since to keep any interactions relatively sedate and game related as much as possible. But like I said, I'm no saint....I can and do talk smack on occasion, but acknowledge I've slid outside the bounds at times.  I offer my apologies for those times.

If that isn't good enough, then it is what it is.

As for the rest....

Did I spark this tango? Yep. Absolutely and purposefully.    

Did I publicly humiliate people who intervene to their defense? I'm sorry, but how did I do that?   By asking them to validate their claims that Skyrr cheats?  By asking them to review a few films and tell me where he cheated?  By responding to hearsay and innuendo? Oh please. Had the positions been reversed you are telling me certain members of your squad wouldn't have called people out? Do you really want to take that postion, knowing how easy it would be to refute it?

That's why we throw the hypocrisy word out so much:  It's OK if you do it, but not if we do.  It's OK to take cracks at how we play the game, but not vice versa.  

Skyyr is Skyyr.  He's no worse than Kappa, Grizz or other players of a similar ilk who all do the samn damn things to varying degrees.  YOU do similar things on 200, Violator.  How many times have I seen you complain publicly about being ganged or it "taking 5 of you to bring me down" on 200?  You think that's different?  Not in any way when you boil it down to the bare metal:  Everyone downplays their losses, lapses in SA, and other failures at one point or another.  Anyone who says otherwise isn't being honest.

Oh yes...I completely agree, but for different reasons.   :lol





We just call it like we see it. Most of us have been playing for years. Most of us know all the tricks and niches to enhance fighter performance in a duel. Just because the video doesn't show him taking off, does not delude the fact that somehow he came in 40 knots faster. Since you cannot tell us the methods he used to gain this "advantage" without going above the alt limit, the whole arguement is a fallacy related to what we can only view in this film and how to interpret it. Without a valid tactical response to this speed difference, we can only assume he went above the limit. This is based on a lot of experience from dueling and practice.   We still have not read one reply that states a solid response to this inquiry.

Kappa and Grizz are not even close to skyyr's belittling, disrespect, and lack of integrity he portrays on AH. That's why nobody likes skyyr. Plus skyyr isn't even close to being as good as grizz or kappa in this game. Kappa and grizz dont have to degrade players in AH to prove their abilities, nor are even close to the level of narrissism that skyyr has.  I have no clue how you could even compare these 2 with skyyr, and I know many players who would agree.

As far as I'm concerned, yeah I talk crap on 200 sometimes I'm the heat of the moment. Notice I never say anyone's names nor do I intend to call anyone out with personal insults. I just say it took 5 people to kill me cuz I think its sad and I wanted to state it openly. I don't have to make uyoutube vids to prove I can get kills on people and I at least commend people with good fights and a (S) if they earned it. So no, I would not compare my smack talk with skyyrs level of disrespect to the overall community.

Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: icepac on October 08, 2014, 12:52:44 PM
I posted a video of what leads to his speed advantage.

He certainly won't be able I do that bs in the dueling ladder and I will surely bring a friend to record his altitude when he's beyond icon range.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Arlo on October 08, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
20 pages of poo?  :cheers: :old: (21 if you include my post)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: xPoisonx on October 08, 2014, 01:00:36 PM
It's kinda sad how seriously some people take this game...
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 08, 2014, 01:06:23 PM
I am not mudslinging at all.  Merely pointing out that Pep is not lying.

And if posting private conversations is your idea of a solution to a problem then you have greater issues than I thought.    I am sure my attorney would have fun with you on that one.  I suggest it would be the biggest mistake of your life in any event.

Or perhaps not.   I probably wouldn't care.

Shrug.

Whatever.  I am over it.   :cheers:


Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 08, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
It's kinda sad how seriously some people take this game...


I was guilty of that to a fault.  Thank gawd for my new squadron.  Talk about the proper perspective.   My previous association was toxic, as you can see.  Now, I can actually tolerate all of it because I fly with guys who have fun no matter the circumstances.

I am also no longer damned if I do or damned if I don't.   That's never a fun spot--being wrong no matter what.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Zerstorer on October 08, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
Largely your fault?   :rofl
I have not apologized for anything and I won't.  You have a few times but seem to have a change of heart the next day. So an
apology now is accepted but not taken too seriously.  :aok

Forgive and forget ... sure!  I am nice like that. :)
You can be my in game rival all you like, don`t care...
just keep all your rantings public from now on please, all I`ve ever asked. :aok

 :lol

Yep.  You are so right....I gave you WAY too much credit there.  I forget the part you play.  My bad.  But like you said, it's just words now....

My in game rival?   :rofl  Hardly. 

I've never claimed to be great...but you are still just bait.   :lol

A poet and I didn't know it! 
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 08, 2014, 01:17:53 PM
I have no problem with Vraciu.  He and I got off on the wrong foot yes, we called each other a few bad names.  The circumstances around that were all leading back to fulcrum dueling bear that night.  He apologized on 200 and in pm for what was said and so did I.  He has also apologized further and since has not said anything else to me to make me question that apology, I have no problem with him.  I have not known him to outright lie or be emotionally unstable like others have, but I don`t know him that well either...I base my opinion on what I know of him.   :)
:salute

Don't let him fool you. I called out Mr. YouTube in private about his trashtalk hypocrisy.  Via private message.  And I flat out said, "If this gets me kicked out of your little flying club so be it." He ran to mamma Kruel who booted me over it and then tried to backspin it into something else.

They had no clue about my history with you, nor did they care to ask. In any event, TC was the one who squawked, not anyone in The Damned (2), and it has magically evolved into a post-dated excuse for my "demise" after my ultimatum was delivered.

The hilarity of these guys getting mad at someone over 200 smack talk is too rich.

I have no heartburn with them over the past.  I am a forgiving person by nature.   Going forward I have  200 detuned and will not see their taunts of players, reducing my stomach acid level significantly.   I play for fun and in the hope of improving.  Hopefully they do the same.

I don't bother them and so far they haven't bothered me--much.

I am happy to leave it that way.

Looking forward to the day I have the skill to take them on in the MA on equal terms.  That will be a film worth posting.  :aok



Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 01:48:14 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Vraciu on October 08, 2014, 01:51:44 PM
I have the screenshots, bro.   I just haven't posted them--nor will I precisely because they are private.  But you and I both know you clowns laughed at her.   

I was asked about it and I replied to the question.  Perhaps you have a mole you are unaware of in your group...   
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JunkyII on October 08, 2014, 02:06:17 PM
Fulcrum, I haven't watched them...so Asterix removed from that fight but all others remain because of the iko fight...not time we duel I won't be going alone I'll ask a sqaudy to watch from his side. (And like I've already asked but he won't respond to a rebuttal) says I'm worthless. Well maybe but I 7-0 kruel after being back in game after a near year off...the same night Skyyr and I went at it.....so his butt buddy and you are both worthless  in his eyes....just his bait
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Good thing no one has brought up Skyyr's hacking of Fighter Ace to gain an advantage by flying a plane that wasn't available to the regular playing masses.  Oh wait, someone just did.  :devil

ack-ack
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
I have no problem with Vraciu.  He and I got off on the wrong foot yes, we called each other a few bad names.  The circumstances around that were all leading back to fulcrum dueling bear that night.  He apologized on 200 and in pm for what was said and so did I.  He has also apologized further and since has not said anything else to me to make me question that apology, I have no problem with him.  I have not known him to outright lie or be emotionally unstable like others have, but I don`t know him that well either...I base my opinion on what I know of him.   :)

 :salute


You don't know him, at all. And I base my opinion of what I know of Fulcrum, see? So now, its not my problem that you don't know who you get your information from.

I have the proof to back my claims, all you are saying is "Gee goly Fulcrum leave me alone :)" Yet, you are not providing any proof that he is actually harrasing you. If he is, prove it. I myself will tell him if he's crossed the line.
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 08, 2014, 02:16:45 PM
Good thing no one has brought up Skyyr's hacking of Fighter Ace to gain an advantage by flying a plane that wasn't available to the regular playing masses.  Oh wait, someone just did.  :devil

ack-ack
:)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Pepprr on October 08, 2014, 02:20:32 PM
:lol

Yep.  You are so right....I gave you WAY too much credit there.  I forget the part you play.  My bad.  But like you said, it's just words now....

My in game rival?   :rofl  Hardly. 

I've never claimed to be great...but you are still just bait.   :lol

A poet and I didn't know it! 

See...multiple personalities...lol   :rolleyes:

I am not going to pretend to play nice with you.  That ship sailed long time ago.  I will however leave it be.
Call me bait, mascot, moron, dumbarce, laugh at my pic...whatever...don't care.  It just shows your true character.  :)
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Good thing no one has brought up Skyyr's hacking of Fighter Ace to gain an advantage by flying a plane that wasn't available to the regular playing masses.  Oh wait, someone just did.  :devil

ack-ack

Lol pathetic
Tthere was no fighting when he flew that plane I don't think they even had guns?, it's pretty obvious he wasn't trying to get an advantage on anything unread of getting the thrill of flying something only a few could, 15 years ago when he was a kid...You are speaking with no knowledge of the incident just based on what you've heard. Seems to be the prevailing pattern around here though lol
Title: Re: WHHHAAAAAH!!!
Post by: Kruel on October 08, 2014, 02:30:36 PM
Fulcrum, I haven't watched them...so Asterix removed from that fight but all others remain because of the iko fight...not time we duel I won't be going alone I'll ask a sqaudy to watch from his side. (And like I've already asked but he won't respond to a rebuttal) says I'm worthless. Well maybe but I 7-0 kruel after being back in game after a near year off...the same night Skyyr and I went at it.....so his butt buddy and you are both worthless  in his eyes....just his bait

Gasp a year off? I haven't played a full year yet, this was in June, and it was the first "official" duel I had with anyone, ever. I think I have improved since then, we can go again sweetie.