Acts of War on the US border

[culero]

See Rule #4, #5

[dmf]

Originally posted by NUKE
It's going to take another 911 before politicians take the border seriously. Then, the border will be guarded and people will be shot if they try to get across illegally.

I have to agree with that NUKE. If people can come across the border from Mexico, carrying drugs who's to say a terrorist cant do it, carrying a bomb?

[Yeager]

culero lays done a lethal dose of SMACK!

S m Ac K!

wtg culero

[Wolf14]

I dont mind Mexican folks commin over making an honest livin as long as they do it legaly. I also dont have a problem with Mexican folks commin over making contributions to the communities they live in by becomming part of the community and being involved in the political end of running a community.

I do however have a problem with Mexicans commin over illeagaly, taking advantage of the healthcare system we have, having babies and getting the free "in" to stayin on my buck.

I also have issues with mandatory teaching of Spanish in schools. I wont go into detail, cause it will take to long. Bottom line to me is that in Texas and the rest of America, American English is the common language. When in Rome do as the Romans do. I do not feel that my children or myself should have to learn a foreign language to cater to folks that want to make Texas their new home. They can learn American English just like everyone else.

[RedTop]

Originally posted by culero
See Rule #4, #5

Believe me when I say...........

Legal=No prblem
Illegal=BIG problem

And that goes for ANYONE. I don't give a rip where your from. Canada , Mexico , England , Russia , France. Makes me NO friggin difference where people come from to live in the U.S. if it is done LEGALLY.

I'm sick of paying for Julio and his band of banditos coming to this state making a living and not paying a DAMN thing. Send it home. Get sent back by the INS only to come back 2 weeks later.

SCREW EM. They get a free pass on everything this state and country has to offer and lots of people just look over it. No big deal. "Oh they are here to help there families" I hear all that bleeding heart crap.

Fox is out to do whatever the frik he wants to and our government and wussy *** legal system with its ACLU whinning B.S. is WEARING ME OUT !!!

If they are bringing drugs here with armored vehicles then blast them across the River. I don't give a frik.

If some "Whitey" is bringing in illegals then BLAST HIS SORRY *** TO.

It's high time people in this country stop trying to say the "Politically" correct thing so they dont hurt someones feelings. This illegal alien problem is out of control. It's a danger. Anyone who thinks its not only needs to look to not so long ago when things were crumbling in N.Y. City.

Culero ,

I get the feeling you may be Mexican AMERICAN. No offense to Mexican Americans was meant. AMERICANS being the key there. Legal Immigrants. People who went thru the pain to get here and do things RIGHT. Mexican , Afican American , whatever , come here legally , and we are good to go.

[culero]

Nah, Redtop, I'm a gringo named Myers with nothing but names like Steele, Callis, etc in my geneaology - I'm a bastard mix of UK and Irish blood. My wife's a Siciian WOP. I ain't got that kinda dog in this fight.

And, you might be surprised to know you and I happen to be on pretty much the same page. You were one of the very few folks making *some* sense in this thread, my pot-shot wasn't aimed at you.

I've just lived on the border almost all my life, in a community that's mostly Mexican in its roots. I'm as much against illegal activity as anyone here, and just as willing to take strong action against it. I just don't loathe an entire culture because it has its share of bad apples (yanno, just like any other culture does). These are people I know, many of whom I admire. I take insults to friends personally.

Thing is, although I'm OK with hitting smugglers hard, especially armed ones, IMO its our fault they exist. Eliminate their business model by ending the drug prohibition and we can put 'em out of business - remember the alocohol bootlegging industry? Black markets exist to supply illegal demand, and can't without it.

I've met a lot of "wetbacks" in my time, and most of 'em would make fine neighbors and community members, completely willing to work and pay their fair share if given opportunity. That doesn't mean I want to condone illegal immigration, but I refuse to scorn these people. The solution is a political problem, not a personal one. Dehumanizing people because they want to earn a living is ignorant.

culero

[RedTop]

Culero

Well Said

[Hangtime]

It's not a 'political' problem. It's OUR problem.

Tossing the problem to a corrupt theiving government to solve is no solution.

Tell me.. how do you stop looting when the 'law' can't?

[Wolf14]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Tell me.. how do you stop looting when the 'law' can't?

Shoot first and ask questions later. Its obvious that if there is looting the talk part is over with.

[culero]

Originally posted by Hangtime
It's not a 'political' problem. It's OUR problem.

Tossing the problem to a corrupt theiving government to solve is no solution.

Tell me.. how do you stop looting when the 'law' can't?

I agree its our problem, its just political in nature.

As to how to stop looting, if you live in Texas this is the applicable law:

� 9.41.  PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY.  (a)  A person
in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is
justified in using force against another when and to the degree the
actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to
prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful
interference with the property.
   (b)  A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible,
movable property by another is justified in using force against the
other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force
is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the
property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit
after the dispossession and:
      (1)  the actor reasonably believes the other had no
claim of right when he dispossessed the actor;  or
      (2)  the other accomplished the dispossession by using
force, threat, or fraud against the actor.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, � 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, � 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


   � 9.42.  DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.  A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
      (1)  if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41;  and
      (2)  when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
         (A)  to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime;  or
         (B)  to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property;  and
      (3)  he reasonably believes that:                                            
         (A)  the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means;  or
         (B)  the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Clear enough?

culero

[Hangtime]

Sounds like it's time to deliver bullets to the illegal ailen tresspassers intent upon looting our jobs, our economy and our healthcare system.

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See Rule #5

[RedTop]

Hang,

We don't play here in Texas.......

[culero]

See Rule #4

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Rules #4 & 7.