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Offline Excel1

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« Reply #150 on: July 09, 2007, 05:50:30 AM »
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"Sturdy over-the-ankle boots, loose clothing and responsible behavior offer effective protection from snakebites when in the wilderness. It is important to tread heavily and cause loud ground noises. The rationale behind this is that the snake will feel the vibrations and flee from the area.

hmmm... if I was in snake country I think I would rather take my chances on getting bitten rather than dressing up like a jackbooted hippie and stomping about the place like bigfoot.

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« Reply #151 on: July 09, 2007, 06:15:03 AM »
You know, the indians didn't have any trouble out of snakes, and they didn't kill every one they saw. They let them be, and they seemed to do just fine. I never heard of many of them being killed by snakebite. Seems they were mostly killed by lead bullets from a bunch of land grabbers. Who then killed the snakes. If we could just learn from them. And I don't mean the indians running the casinos.

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« Reply #152 on: July 09, 2007, 06:24:31 AM »
A Mannlicher-Carcano.
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« Reply #153 on: July 09, 2007, 06:48:59 AM »
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BOOM........good snake.


LOL, yeah :aok

As for the 12 gauge, a normal one is perfect for ...ahem...a cat on some 30 feet. Boom, dead cat, doesn't even move, and not much visible harm. Shots up to number 9 (clay pigeon) and a low weight (32grams) will easily do.
A snake-gun of old was a sawed off shotgun by the way.

And McFarland, - not everybody is an Indian, and anyway their life expectancy, as they were truly children of nature, - was low.
We do not know how many were killed by snakes, but I'd expect rather a low number after infancy, since EVERYBODY had to grow up with them.

I'd still not want any "indian tests" on my kids.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #154 on: July 09, 2007, 07:21:12 AM »
Well, I grew up in an area with lots of snakes, never did much harm to me. Me papaw grew up in an area with snakes. He used to carry them to school in his pocket. Never hurt him. Guess all snake killers are evil minded idiots who think everything is out to get you. Snakes aren't out to get you, or your kids. If they were, you would have been dead long ago. Snakes are just normal animals, going aboot their own business. They aren't out to harm anything bigger than a mouse or rat, and they would prefer to stay away from us. But, where we are, there are rats and mice. And where we aren't - oh wait, there is no place where we aren't.

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« Reply #155 on: July 09, 2007, 08:26:21 AM »
LOL...  mcfarland gets attacked and beat up by snakes but every toddler in the world plays with em.

he claims that snakes only kill to eat but that cats are killers yet... claims on snake will clear out more mice than one cat...  cats will kill dozens of mice a day a snake?   one a week...  

moray says that they can't be controlled once feral but tells me that I can change the climate of the world.   We can control the climate but not a few feral cats..  and he claims to be a scientist.. so far.. I have seen nothing but BS from him.   all he ever seems to want to control is people.  stay in the ocean.. you don't do well on land with people.  

spay and neuter programs work.   I rarely see a stray cat in kalifornia anymore.. the feral ones in the fields don't attack anyone and are easy to kill.. they mostly live about a year at best anyway... tough life.   We have as many feral dogs as cats it seems and they... they are dangerous.

many places on the planet have no snakes and are just fine with em.   if scientists want to keep em in cages to study... fine with me.

and suave... there may be a fourth type of "cat person"   every person who lives in a rural area.. every farmer..  They are good mouse traps.

If there were no snakes in America I would not be upset.

And...  snake people are strange..  have you ever met anyone who kept snakes that wasn't a whackjob?  they make trekkies and vampires seem kinda normal.

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« Reply #156 on: July 09, 2007, 09:47:04 AM »
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Originally posted by McFarland
You know, the indians didn't have any trouble out of snakes, and they didn't kill every one they saw. They let them be, and they seemed to do just fine. I never heard of many of them being killed by snakebite. Seems they were mostly killed by lead bullets from a bunch of land grabbers. Who then killed the snakes. If we could just learn from them. And I don't mean the indians running the casinos.


Perhaps you could alleviate any guilt you have by returning any land you might own to the Native Americans and the snakes.

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« Reply #157 on: July 09, 2007, 10:14:33 AM »
"Snakes are just normal animals, going aboot their own business. They aren't out to harm anything bigger than a mouse or rat, and they would prefer to stay away from us. But, where we are, there are rats and mice. And where we aren't - oh wait, there is no place where we aren't."

Do you have kids?
Would you deel allright with poisoned snakes having a habitad nearby your lawn?
I mean, I'd gun them, just in case.

As for cats, Lazs, they are even up here, absolutely necessary!
I have not taken a cat into the household yet, - I hate them poking their noses into my food (since they easily jump tables)
I have dogs in the house, - the mice are to fast for them. Just passed a mouse in the hall!!!
So....thinking...meoww stuff ;)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #158 on: July 09, 2007, 10:43:06 AM »
I'm a farmer, and yes, there are cats around. And they will attack people. Cats are tempermental, they have serious mood swings, one minute they can be purring and the next clawing your eyes out. I've kept snakes, but not for long, animals belong outside, not inside. I actually used to volunteer (and still do whenever possible) at the CRRC (Clinch River Raptor Center) where we rehabilitate birds of prey and other animals that come in. I've seen me share of what cats can do. Dangerous to the wildlife. And no animals belong inside. If you have rats and mice, get some traps and put them in your home. It would also be cleaner than having cats inside. They don't eat what they kill most of the time. And I'm not feeling guilty aboot land that the indians once had, I'm 1/8 Cherokee meself. And if there were no snakes in America, you would be over run with rats and mice. And no, I don't have kids, but me neighbors do, and they are just fine with snakes. They know the snakes won't bother anything, the snakes are doing good. The only bad thing around here is too few snakes. We are changing the environment in ways that are bigger than you think. We are sending thousands of tons of CO2 a year into the air. This causes the Earth to get warmer, and to alter climates. Getting rid of feral cats is a harder thing to do, they can hide. And they breed like crazy. I've been bit by snakes before. Why? Because I picked them up. Still, it didn't hurt me. I had to actually run the snake down to catch it. I hardly see any toddler doing this. And I don't see one doing this if you educate them. And snakes eat more than once a week. A full grown black rat snake will eat every day. And I'd like to see someone confuse that with a venomous species. You would have to be ignorant and blind. And king snakes eat other venomous species. So, they are no threat to you. In fact, they are helping you. Although, you would kill those just as soon as look at it. Many people in this world who would do that. Kill something just as soon as look at it. Kill you just as soon as look at you. For no reason at all. At least the snake doesn't want to kill you, he just wants to go on aboot his business. Eating rats and mice.

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« Reply #159 on: July 09, 2007, 12:04:23 PM »
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I'm a farmer, and yes, there are cats around. And they will attack people. Cats are tempermental, they have serious mood swings, one minute they can be purring and the next clawing your eyes out.  


Your worst nightmare realized..................... ..............



BTW Silat, 20 ga. works on both snakes AND feral cats!
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« Reply #160 on: July 09, 2007, 01:09:52 PM »
Farmers owning cats, lol.

Farmers got about as much love for cats as they do for hawks. Next time you go hunting on a farmers land, ask him what you should do if you see a coyote or a cat.

I keep a bowl of cat food and anti-freeze in my back yard, no dogs can climb a wood fence.

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« Reply #161 on: July 09, 2007, 02:04:04 PM »
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It's an old myth thta snakes will chase people. Even in that case, if it were true, most people can run faster than snakes.


And once again folks---WRONG. The water moccasin will chase you without a doubt. they are very, very aggressive .
If you have the chance to run I don`t think anyone would disagree, but if you are cornered by a cottonmouth there is one solution---BOOM....good snake.
The only good snake is a dead snake.
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« Reply #162 on: July 09, 2007, 02:14:15 PM »
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Originally posted by McFarland
You know, the indians didn't have any trouble out of snakes, and they didn't kill every one they saw. They let them be, and they seemed to do just fine. I never heard of many of them being killed by snakebite. Seems they were mostly killed by lead bullets from a bunch of land grabbers. Who then killed the snakes. If we could just learn from them. And I don't mean the indians running the casinos.








And yet another load of happy horse poop. :) Man you are on a roll. We`ll just call you butter.
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"For example, Echinacea, used to boost immunity in the natural products industry, due to European backed research on anti-infection properties of the root, was used by the Sioux as a leaf for treating toothache and other pains by topical application and for snakebite."
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Yet better than that, research Moon women. :)
They had the proper attitude. It is believed that in this cycle they may spit on a rattlesnake and kill it.
Just another rendition of---------------------------->BOOM...........good snake.
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« Reply #163 on: July 09, 2007, 02:18:26 PM »
BTW, I do beleive you think you have set up a great troll. The thing is you need some actual facts to even make it halfway believable. See the thing is we are having way more fun than you.
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« Reply #164 on: July 09, 2007, 02:23:13 PM »
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Farmers owning cats, lol.

Farmers got about as much love for cats as they do for hawks.


Which in actuality is a lot. Both keep mice, rats, etc. from damaging crops.
Only people I know of in that area that might not be so fond of a hawk is a chicken rancher.
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