Author Topic: Where has the AH Luftwaffe gone? (Read 6013 times)

Creamo · « **Reply #150 on:** July 23, 2001, 06:35:00 PM »

If you fly LW stuff, your a whining limp whistle.

I hate everyone.

Hitler had a poop fetish.

That's 2.

Pongo · « **Reply #151 on:** July 23, 2001, 07:54:00 PM »

Ya. Its one. But hundereds of people read it and never even commented on the rediculousnes of it. Fatty and yourself and SW read it and vehimetly denied the existance of such an attitude. It is accepted for normal and healthy by this comunity.
Its interesting that the only player with most of the criteria you people attribute to the avagage LW pilot is in fact Citabria/Fester.
He has most of it.
arogance, name changeing, ranting,complaints or observations about ac modeling. No title but the vast majority of the most hardcore LW fans never did that either. He defiatly has the opertunistic hunter skill. But seeker is comfortable flying with his fellow bish Citabria..why is that. Certaily he has a better fit with the despised attributes than most any LW pilot that ever played the game.
What is different?
Well hes a bishop..and that is definatly part of it most of the rabid members of this crowd are bish. His posts are ususally informative not accusitory. I think a case could be made that he deserves the derision of the same people that seem to think that Grun deserves to be run out of town though.

Im not saying that Cit is like Ram. Of course he is not. But he is a good match for your target group.

SOB · « **Reply #152 on:** July 24, 2001, 02:34:00 AM »

It is accepted for normal and healthy by this comunity.

This is what I disagree with. That you seem to think that the entire community thinks it's good to hate someone because they fly German aircraft. I think you're wrong.

As for Citabria, I currently hold him with less regard than any "LuftWaffle" I can think of. Not sure how someone can so completely lose control of themselves and thier actions just because of being killed in a game. Maybe he's finally figured it out as "Fester"...I'll believe it when I haven't seen him go crazy on the open channel for a year or so.

Grun I like. He's not a LuftWaffle. He got kicked out of that club after he flew his 1000th N1K2 sortie! Plus he's can take toejam without getting all huffy. I think he'd make a great FDB, if it weren't for that leather fetish and those silly gerbils he's always toting around with him. Plus, he'd probably serve a lifetime in the latrines for his past whines.

Hell I like RAM too...he just needs to grow up a little.

It's Creamo I hate, and I feel that the community as a whole should back me up on this.

SOB

Seeker · « **Reply #153 on:** July 24, 2001, 04:15:00 AM »

Pongo, I'm not a bish.....

The MOL rotate.

And yes, the hatred of whiney paranoid people who take on the jackboot persona is real.

It has nothing to do with what they fly, as in this thread and others you'll good people come forward and say they fly German planes and love them, it has everything to do with an attitude that can ask "Where have the LW gone?" when the arena is well populated with German planes, and the Rumble was well attended. It has everything to do with an attitude that says the "real" or "expert" LW don't fly here any longer, it has everything to do with an attitude that says modelng errors or defieciencies in German planes are the result of a anti LW conspiracy, while errors in other planes are glossed over.

Now, you're quick to point out logical errors in my posts but I'm sure you'll agree with this:

All planes have errors accross the range of model types and nationalities.

and

Only German planes have an identifiable clique accusing all and sundry of various dark motives to explain those errors.

As my logic is faulty, perhaps you can tell my why those two statements hang together.

As for the "Citibra factor"; he's a perfect counterpoint to my posts. He's often an amazinhunk, but he's a non aligned one, wouldn't you say? He'll squeak about every thing. Gunman26 is another case in point. Again, a prime amazinhunk, and a Spit driver to boot! The point being there's a difference between being an individual amazinhunk, and joining the amazinhunk league of friends.

In short, it's a group of people who consistently refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that they're killed by pilots not planes, and use every excuse possible to explain their failures; astonishingly enough irregardless of their personal score. I've just read a post where in which a luftwhiner whines about LW arms and then goes on to boast about his unbroken 59 kill streak.

Most people I know would give their left nut to fly like that. But not this guy. He might have made it 60 if there wasn't such an obvious anti-LW slant to the gun/ammo/damage/atmospheric fish constant in the AH software.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #154 on:** July 24, 2001, 07:52:00 AM »

You think there's a group of people out there attempting to take down the group of LuftWaffles? That's a conspiracy by definition.

Good lord, there's a conspiracy in cyber space against a cyber group of cyber people playing a cyber game!

Woooweeee!
-SW

lazs1 · « **Reply #155 on:** July 24, 2001, 08:06:00 AM »

I am not a LW bigot... ask anyone... I am an equal opportunity hater. I hate the sissy boy hunter runner p51 guys and bombers and GV sissies and... but. the LW are much easier to lump together since there are so many of em and they have such a huge share of arrogant morons and crybabies that are willing to affiliate themselves with a LW only virtual persona.

betcha a lot of people feel that way.... betcha that's whats going on here eh?
lazs

Fishu · « **Reply #156 on:** July 24, 2001, 08:49:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Seeker:
I've just read a post where in which a luftwhiner whines about LW arms and then goes on to boast about his unbroken 59 kill streak.

..but I got 278 kills in one plane... isn't his streak still missing one digit?

Kieran · « **Reply #157 on:** July 24, 2001, 11:04:00 AM »

As I said, Fishu, I don't consider you a LWhiner at all.

More often I have heard you extoll the virtues of aircraft the select few have deemed "misrepresented". The kill streak you mention was done in the 190A8- supposedly the worst plane in the game at the time. You are a great pilot and incredible shot but even you couldn't have run up a score like that if the plane was as awful as we are lead to believe by some.

The complaints you had most frequently were concerning the Hispanos (and there are plenty of non-LW guys who would agree with much of the arguments), the way stall is handled, and other such noncountry-specific type issues. Sure, you flew mostly LW, but that doesn't make you a LWhiner. Personally, I think Seeker nailed it on the head. Anyone arrogant enough to say "Where has the AH Luftwaffe gone?" has the problem.

Pongo · « **Reply #158 on:** July 24, 2001, 11:27:00 AM »

SW. Are you a distant relative of Joe Macarthy? really your a troubled silly man that hides behind your vocal majority wispering foul things about others cause you just want to lash out.
This is the guy that sets the moral tone for our game.
Many people stated that the attitude openly expressed in seekers post didnt exist. I drag your eyes up to the evidence the you can not apperently see for yourself and suddenly I am complaining about a conspiracy.

Seeker. Be more specific with your hatred. People whom you dont really intend it for will take you at your word and feel it because they fly german AC.

You all think you can pour on the hate at a broadly defined group and that people that identify themselves with that group will have the back ground to know you dont mean them. Your wrong.
I entered this thread cause I thought behavior like this might has some part in awswering GHs question. I still think that. I dont think it is the overwhelming part. But I think it is a part.
I am not denying the behavior of the few that lead to these stereo types. I dont like their behavior any more then many of you.

Obviosly I have received no (usefull)support for this position here. I have recieved a little support for it on private channel in the MA. That I am thankful for.

Creamo · « **Reply #159 on:** July 24, 2001, 11:44:00 AM »

You haven't received any support because you make me sound coherent when Im 3 pitchers of screwdrivers into thinking I have something deep to say.

Meds Pongo, Meds.

Pongo · « **Reply #160 on:** July 24, 2001, 11:54:00 AM »

Well creamo. It had to happen eventually. We disagree about something.

Creamo · « **Reply #161 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:06:00 PM »

That wasn't deep, see? Meds are good!

Rude · « **Reply #162 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:12:00 PM »

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sissy boy hunter runner p51 guys

Quit your whinin!

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #163 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:14:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo:
SW. Are you a distant relative of Joe Macarthy? really your a troubled silly man that hides behind your vocal majority wispering foul things about others cause you just want to lash out.
This is the guy that sets the moral tone for our game.
Many people stated that the attitude openly expressed in seekers post didnt exist. I drag your eyes up to the evidence the you can not apperently see for yourself and suddenly I am complaining about a conspiracy.

Seeker. Be more specific with your hatred. People whom you dont really intend it for will take you at your word and feel it because they fly german AC.

You all think you can pour on the hate at a broadly defined group and that people that identify themselves with that group will have the back ground to know you dont mean them. Your wrong.
I entered this thread cause I thought behavior like this might has some part in awswering GHs question. I still think that. I dont think it is the overwhelming part. But I think it is a part.
I am not denying the behavior of the few that lead to these stereo types. I dont like their behavior any more then many of you.

Obviosly I have received no (usefull)support for this position here. I have recieved a little support for it on private channel in the MA. That I am thankful for.

Hello, this is Earth... how are you doing today?
-SW

Pongo · « **Reply #164 on:** July 24, 2001, 12:36:00 PM »

Well you got me with that one.
LOL